Prophet Thiel Wants To Assure You The Tribulation Will NOT Start in 2012

Bob Thiel, the Official "unofficial"  mouthpiece and spokesman for the Living Church of God, world renown authority on prophecy, Catholicism, Fatima, President Obama and Mayan gibberish, wants you to rest easy tonight with his assurance that the great tribulation will NOT start this year.

Great Tribulation Will Not Start in 2012

October 15th, 2012 
Various ones with claimed association with the Church of God have claimed or given strong indication that at least part of the Great Tribulation would be in 2012.

There are also secular and other books that make similar claims.

Irrespective of assertions by various self-appointed ones, the fact is that the great tribulation as described in the Apocalypse (Book of Revelation) will not start in 2012.

Well, that's a relief!  I can go buy some bacon now.

The prophet continues:

Why?

Well, amongst other reasons, the King of the North (Daniel 11) also known as the Beast (Revelation 13:1-10) is not ready.

Nope, Baron Von Guttenburg, Bob's bromance buddy, has not ascended to power yet.  That pesky Merkel is still running the show.

Bob then wants to assure you that Germany is not ready yet to blow us all to smithereens and make us their sex slaves.

While the European Union appears to be determined to unite further to become both an economic and military power, the fact is that it is still not the economic and military power it needs to be in order to eliminate the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.

How comforting!  Such a lovely message that Living Church of God presents to the world.  They must be sooooooooooooooooooo proud!

Just how does prophet Bob know all of this as fact?  Here's why:

I have had many European trips this century, and can state that the Europeans are simply not ready to fulfill their role as the supporters of the King of the North – the Final Beast military power yet.

Not only is the prophet the worlds foremost authority on prophecy, the Mayans, Fatima and Catholicism, he is also a world renown traveller who knows the inner workings of Europe!

He continues:

The Europeans do not consider that they are united, they have not accepted any type of universal religion (and while Pope Benedict XVI is working on that–this still is not ready), have not completed their Galileo project (a “GPS” system that will allow them to work independently of the US military’s system), have not finished their systems for “international prosperity”, have not acknowledged ten kings which need to be determined (Revelation 17:12), have not strengthened/unified their military enough, etc.

And while “Galileo” itself is not a biblical requirement, the idea of having its own powerful military clearly is (see Revelation 13:4). There are also events in Daniel 11, Matthew 24, and other prophecies that I do not believe have been fulfilled to the degree necessary for the actual final 3 1/2 year great tribulation to begin in 2008 (though it will start in the future, and actually could begin several years from now).

Even though even Catholic prophecies indicate a great ruler to arise in Europe who will eventually destroy the English (for documentation, see the article Who is the King of the North?), there simply is not such a person who could be ready for this by the end of 2012.

Who knew a GPS system was being created in Europe with the specific intend of destroying the United States!  Maybe they will use it to track down the true Church of God members as they fly in worn out 747's to Petra. That will be the next excuse for the GPS system.

Armstrongism is so prone to delusional speculation that anything is possible to come from the pen of Prophet Thiel. Whats the guy going to do when Rod Meredith dies before this all happens?  Ames is not capable of leading the church.  Is Bob setting himself up to be that leader? He is an authority on everything imaginable, including church doctrine.  Who else would be so knowledgeable?  Certainly not  Steve Meredith
 

Rod Meredith Says He Is Commanded By God To Correct You

Once more the world has been treated to Rod Meredith's mighty pen. Rod believes he alone is God's mighty voice in the the entire world.  God is only using him to let the world know what disgusting grievous sinners they all are.  His voice carries the authority of God backing it up.

Rod says:

Even though it may not be the “popular” or the “politically correct” thing to do, I am commanded by the Creator God to correct when necessary and to exhort you to do better. For God Almighty commands His faithful ministers:  “Cry aloud, spare not; lift up your voice like a trumpet; tell My people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins” (Isaiah 58:1).

Rod is ready to SPANK the world, particularly the United States for their backsliding, multicultural ways.  Of course this is done out of "love."

So how can I genuinely help you the most? Going beyond what we normally do in these letters in telling you about the ongoing fulfillment of Bible prophecy and the growth of this powerful Work of faith, I now want to warn every one of you dear co-workers, in love, about one of the most dangerous and pernicious attitudes now permeating our entire society. This attitude will undermine and simply destroy your relationship with God if you get into it. Please think deeply about this quotation I have used in the past in articles and letters. As U.S. News & World Report pointed out a few years ago: “More than three-fourths of Americans call the nation’s religious diversity a source of strength…. Meanwhile, more than 3 in 4 Americans believe all religions have at least some elements of truth—even though few say they know much about religions other than their own. And nearly 70 percent think spiritual experiences are the most important part of religion. ‘If one’s religion is more about individual identity than doctrine or creed, it’s a lot easier to be tolerant,’ says Egon Mayer, a sociologist at the Graduate Center of the City University of New York. Gallup says that the high degree of religious tolerance reflects, in part, ‘not only a lack of knowledge of other religions but an ignorance of one’s own faith.’ In some polls, he says, ‘you have Christians saying, “Yes, Jesus is the only way” and also, “Yes, there are many paths to God.” It’s not that Americans don’t believe anything; they believe everything.’”

Is this the same "love" that conspired behind WCG's back as they were defending Rod in court for his big flapping mouth?  Is this the same "love" that led Rod to start Global Church of God and move into it with full salary after being fired by WCG?  Is this the same "love" that stabbed Raymond McNair in the back as he took all the money and most of Global's members and formed Living Church of God?  If it is, forgive me for not wanting to have any part of Rod's "love."

I also have to wonder why since Armstrongism considers all Christians to be fake and their churches fraudulent, why is he so concerned about what they believe?

 My dear brethren and co-workers, this attitude is certainly pervasive in the approach of millions of Americans. For they increasingly believe different “bits and pieces” of various religions and philosophies. Also, because of the almost total confusion in religion today, other millions are completely “giving up” and turning to atheism—completely denying the existence of God Himself! People are really confused as they “cobble” together, “their own” form of religion. However, extremely few people in the United States, Canada, the UK or Australia take with total seriousness the real God of the Bible. Somehow, they are not willing to surrender their will to the genuine Higher Power who created them and gave them life and breath. They are often quick to say, “Here is the way I look at it!”

Rod writes, "...because of the almost total confusion in religion today, other millions are completely “giving up” and turning to atheism..."  I think Rod's need to look at his own confused group and the 700 some confused Churches of God, before he stats casting stones at Christianity and other religions.  The Church of God is just as screwed up as the groups he disses.  Look at the countless people from the Church of God that have turned to atheism because of the blatant hypocrisy and weird teachings of its leaders, including Rod Meredith! 

Ron continues:

 In all respect, do you really think that the great God—the Creator of heaven and earth, the God who gives you life and breath—is very concerned about the millions of differing “opinions” that we puny, mixed-up human beings have about the ultimate purpose of life?

If you are a follower of Jesus, then there is only one answer to the question Rod apparently does not know the answer to.  God cared enough about all the different opinions to send Jesus.  But you cant expect many in Armstongism to ever grasp that concept because they can't even talk about the guy.

Yet, in our supposedly sophisticated society, we now increasingly “water down” and virtually do away with almost everything the real Jesus Christ of the Bible taught, stood for and lived for as He set us an example that we should “follow His steps” (1 Peter 2:21). Although we often have clever arguments to justify our conduct, we manage to regularly break nearly all of God’s Ten Commandments! This attitude reached an all-time high recently when the very President of the United States publically stated that he now approves of the idea of “men marrying men”!

Ah, sex.  I knew I would not have to wait long for Rod to start talking about sex.  Even better, Rod gets into gay sex, his FAAAAAAVORITE subject. 

Again I say, before Rod starts casting his stones and going into orgasmic ecstasy at the the mere thought of his god beating the shit out of this world.  The Church of God leaders want to see the world around them punished.  When they start shouting about it their voices start rising and bodies start shaking.  They need this to happen in order to legitimize all their beliefs.

Rod ends with:

Indeed, the watered-down “form” of godliness now permeating our nation always leads to “denying” the real power or the authority of the living God. The Word of God reveals that—in this final age or “era” of His Church and of this earth’s civilization—the spirit of “Laodicea” will prevail. Here is how God Himself describes the Laodicean attitude:  “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth” (Revelation 3:15-16). Even most supposedly religious people very seldom get truly inspired or “on fire” for God and His Word.

Why would anyone want to follow Rod and his god?  It offers no hope.  How can a person have hope when all they hear about is an angry vengeful god that is so incredibly eager for blood lust that he is going to destroy most of humanity so a tiny remnant parked on their self righteous asses in Petra can become Kings and Priests.  Why would anyone want to follow that?

 

Aaron Dean on Salvation

In the previous post I had a comment from an ultra conservative Armstrongite saying that salvation was dependent upon our belief in Herbert Armstrong.  Now Aaron Dean is speaking out on "salvation."

It reads like the "David defense" that Armstrongites love to throw out.  David was a grievous sinner yet God used him. Herbert Armstrong was a grievous sinner, yet God used him.

From United Real News:

Forward: Separating Salvation From People 
What makes some seemingly dedicated people leave the Church?

I have been asked this question before by members who have seen many brethren and even ministers fail. Having spent much of my life at the heart of the work, some have asked me, “Why are you still here?”

I think it comes down to something my dad said when I graduated college and was asked to work on the Church’s Gulf stream jet: “Be sure and separate salvation from people.” What he knew was that I would witness some things that would build my faith; but I would also see and hear things that could discourage and tear down my faith.

Indeed no Christian’s life is without its pitfalls, but we expect them to be attacks from the outside. While ready to face the world, often we are not prepared for problems from the inside. People who meet with us each Sabbath at church—brothers and sisters whom we trust and love—sometimes might not show godly character in word or deed. And we can tend to expect more Christlike behavior the higher the position a person is in.

But when an offense happens involving someone in a visible position, what do we do? Many take sides, deny the action happened or make excuses, blaming others as the cause. They might reason that someone in that position certainly couldn’t have done whatever the offense was.

Emotional reactions like these may leave one at peace with themselves, but if they find out later that a knowingly wrongful act was committed or they were lied to, it’s very easy to become disillusioned. They might leave the faith or go searching for a more perfect church—usually to find that the next one is no better than the last.

Every good biblical character sinned, except Jesus Christ. He never sinned and kept all the commandments. But even He was accused for drinking wine, talking to sinners and disregarding men’s rules of Sabbath observance; and some people became offended by these accusations. To let someone else’s perceived mistake—or actual mistake—put us in a wrong attitude is to let someone else “take our crown” (Revelation 3:11).

We must work to control our own thoughts and actions. Seek truth and prove all things before reacting emotionally. “Work out our own salvation with fear and trembling” (Philippians 2:12). Our salvation rests on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ alone. If we pray for wisdom and react spiritually, we will make progress toward separating our salvation from other people’s mistakes. And in the process, put Christ—our hope of glory—in us (Colossians 1:27).