Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Bob Thiel Feels That Christians Being Killed In Iraq And Elsewhere Are Not Real Christians

Baghdad, Iraq - Two Assyrian Christian children have been killed in Baghdad. Raneed Raad 16 and her sister Raphid 6 were slaughtered in their home. 
 
 The family who are well known Assyrian Christians had been threatened. While the family was out terrorists entered and shot the two Children at point blank range. Commentary: Christians Targeted in Iraq! Massacre in Baghdad: Children 6 and 16 Killed at Home!

Bob Thiel is back with his holier-than-thou self-righteous smug attitude.  This time he is using an article from the BBC that claims the number being thrown around on the Internet of Christians being killed around the world is not accurate. BBC dismisses recent ‘Christian martyr’ estimates, but persecution exists and more is coming

Theil quotes this:

It’s often claimed that 100,000 Christians are killed every year because of their religion. Earlier this year, the Vatican called it a credible number. But is it?…
On the internet, the statistic has taken on a life of its own, popping up all over the place, sometimes with an additional detail – that these 100,000 lives are taken by Muslims.
The number comes originally from the Center for the Study of Global Christianity (CSGC) at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in the US state of
Massachusetts…when you hear that 100,000 Christians are dying for their faith, you need to keep in mind that the vast majority – 90,000 – are people who were killed in DR Congo. This means we can say right away that the internet rumours of Muslims being behind the killing of 100,000 Christian martyrs are nonsense. The DRC is a Christian country. In the civil war, Christians were killing Christians…
If you were to take away the 90,000 deaths in DR Congo from the CSGC’s figure of 100,000, that would leave 10,000 martyrs per year.
And the number of Christians who are killed each year because they are Christians is more likely to be in that order of magnitude, according to Professor Thomas Schirrmacher from the International Society for Human Rights.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24864587
Then Theil, God's greatest gift to the Church of God, says this:

I would add that although I do not consider that many killed were actual Christians (and the Bible shows that real Christians would not be killing other real Christians, see, for example ), the fact is that many who profess forms of Christianity are being persecuted and killed in many parts of the world and this is not setting off the amount of international outrage that many would expect.  And this BBC piece, while correct in some points, seems designed to reduce outrage of violence against those being persecuted/killed in Islamic and other lands.
Because some of these people were NOT Church of God members, and more specifically NOT part of Bob's cult, their deaths are not as important if they have been COG folk.

While I am well aware of the BBC bias towards Muslims, or Asians as the BBC refers to them, Thiel is correct in pointing out that it is written to negate those killed in Muslim lands.  That is a topic for another time and place.  The problem I have is Bob's incessant smear campaign towards Christians who are not part of the sabbath keeping, holy day observing, non-pig eating Church of God.  Their deaths are not as important as they would have been if they were COG members.

He then tries to cover his ass with this:

What has happened to various people who profess Christians in places such as Egypt, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, and other lands is wrong.

That being said, the Bible tells of a time when more persecution will hit those truly part of the Church of God.

...and then goes on to claim that TRUE COG members will be killed by the Catholic Church.  His personality cult will face the brunt of that persecution.  Again you will notice there are no REAL Christians outside of the Church of God

In the past, real Christians were persecuted because they:
  • Kept Passover on the 14th
  • Refused to eat unclean meat
  • Would work on Sunday
  • Had false accusations railed against them
  • Were binitarian
  • Kept the Sabbath
  • Were not trinitarian
  • Taught that the pope was an Antichrist and precursor of the final Antichrist
  • Rejected papal authority
  • Did not accept idols
  • Had different teachings than the Church of Rome
  • Had writings Rome did not like
  • Rejected Roman sacraments
  • Objected to the dress of the Roman ministry
  • Considered Rome to be the prophecied Babylon
  • Taught that in the time of the final Antichrist that some would fall away
  • Had practices that Rome considered Jewish
  • Refused to baptize infants
  • Did not participate in carnal warfare
  • Teaching the Kingdom of God
  • Teaching the millennium
  • Baptized adults
In the future, according to Catholic teachings, they ALSO will be persecuted for:
  • Not accepting non-biblical teachings about Mary
  • Not accepting the Great Monarch (Beast, King of the North)
  • Teaching that the Kingdom of God will come soon
  • Not accepting the ‘Great Monarch’ (who appears to be the King of the North of Bible prophecy)
  • Not wearing crosses
  • Teaching after the Great Tribulation begins that Jesus will return within a few years
 
Christians have been persecuted for holding doctrines that we in the Continuing Church of God hold and are clearly expected to be persecuted in the future for holding Continuing Church of God doctrines.



James Malm Smacks Down Bob Thiel....Again....


I just cannot understand it.  It seems that Mr. Malm is NOT impressed by Dr. Thiel's qualifications. I can't wrap my mind around it.  Why????????????????

27:15 And Moses spake unto the LORD, saying, 27:16 Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation, 27:17 Which may go out before them, and which may go in before them, and which may lead them out, and which may bring them in; that the congregation of the LORD be not as sheep which have no shepherd.

Jesus Christ commands Moses to lay hands on Joshua before all the people, from this comes the concept of the laying on of hands.  However notice that Moses laid hands on the person who was selected by GOD!  he did not lay hands on anyone because they finished a course or proved organizationally loyal; hands are to be laid on those who have proved themselves to be absolutely loyal to God and full of the holy spirit that leads us into the zealous keeping of the whole word of God.  Today, very many of those who have had the hands of men laid on them, are not qualified and are not faithful to the whole word of God.

Grievous Sins of Philadelphia Church of God Cause Earthquake In Edmond Oklahoma



Thanks to those fun folk at the Herbert W. Armstrong cult compound, the Edmond area has been hit by two earthquakes.  Both were centered between a half mile and a mile and half from HWA "College".

PCG writes:

At 5:07 a.m. on November 11, the United States Geological Survey (USGS) registered a 3.3-magnitude earthquake with its epicenter located about 1.5 miles southeast from the campus of Herbert W. Armstrong College. This was the second earthquake to shake the campus in less than 12 hours. At 5:25 p.m. the previous night, as students were about to head to the John Amos Field House for dinner, a 3.4-magnitude struck only a half mile from campus.


Some of the PCG faithful comment:

Here in the northwest we have also noticed the attacks from the enemy increase as we talk to brethren who have had especially difficult weeks, our conclusion is that something big must be happening at HQ. Now with the earthquakes at HQ, we will just wait the good news, and keep praying for Mr. Flurry and the rest of you. Thank you for your diligent service.
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Something big is going to happen or is happening right now.
I will pray for you Mr. Flurry. God made you a brazen wall, nothing can befall you nor God’s children who follow God’s government.
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Satan is so angry, he wants to get as close as he can. That’s why we have to step up our prayers.


Is God getting tired of Six Pack's antics?

Is it wrong to claim God is pissed at the PCG?


They do the exact same thing when an earthquake happens elsewhere.  They accuse the people in the area of being sinners.  Obviously there must be great sin at the PCG cult HQ.