Zombie Ministries: Dead Men Still Do Tell Tales

Anonymous notes: 

"What is this?

"Isn't RLDEA now basically a "zombie" ministry promoting sermons by a dead guy? It's GTA version 2.0."

"Regarding RLDEA being a "zombie" ministry...

I get that observation if the person sees no value in the works of Ron Dart. No problem there.
But some of us believe that Ron's stuff is of really high quality. For that reason, we enthusiastically promote it. We believe that it can be helpful to those who wish to better understand the Bible."
--Wes White

Also noted: 

 "Ron Dart was an excellent teacher, very little that I disagreed with. (maybe he was wrong, maybe I was, or maybe we both were) I'm glad his material is still available."

As I mentioned as well as others, if one quotes from the Bible, Old Testament or New, to promote their own view of how all of life should or must be, they too are trusting in a Zombie Ministry.  All the authors of the Bible are dead and those dead men have been telling their tales and repeated by millions for over 2000 years.  Believing that "well that's different" because the original now dead Zombie Apostles were inspired by God directly and meant to pass it all on.  Actually that's not true as none of them thought anything they taught was for anyone but those of their own generation and would not be written up and circulated for two thousand years into the future, but that's another hot topic. 

In 2006, just three short years after the death of GTA, hearing him again on the radio  and experiencing the phenomenon of locally popular radio evangelists, now dead, still filling the airwaves and promoted by their surviving families to keep it all going, I found such a practice strange.  But now, I have mellowed with the realization that anyone using scriptures today is practicing the same kind of Zombie Ministry that still goes on.  Whether it is on tape, video or in books, new or old, bringing up the dead to continue their ministry as if they are not dead is indeed Necro- Evangelism.  So one has to at least admit that all religions by now are Zombie Perpetuated as those long dead still blast out their teachings to the living.

Just for fun: 

Necro-Evangelism-When Dead Men Do Tell Tales

Dennis Diehl 2006

"There is a phenomenon in evangelism that is quite strange to me. I call it Necro-Evangelism and it is where local or even national radio evangelical and fundamentalist churches continue to play the sermons of long dead founders to convert the masses. There are at least three major churches in my area and one I know of nationally that practices Necro-Evangelism and I'd like to explore the pitfalls of this if I might.  (Update: Whether they are "pitfalls" or not I no longer care.)

I find it funny in a macabre way to hear, usually the surviving son of the now dead evangelist, inviting the audience to stay tuned for a message from my now long dead father and pastor so and so. 

Some of these evangelistic types have been dead for just a few years, and so we might attribute his ongoing ministry as shock that the man died on the part of the family who has no clue on how to keep the business going. Others have been dead for decades and I suspect that as long as the tapes play and can be recopied, they will continue to preach right up until the Second Coming and maybe beyond! Usually there is a college or "work" that the family of the now deceased evangelist has inherited, or stuck with,  to be maintained and, while the current family members might be up to the task, it's just good to hear the founder as if he was alive and well on the air. Others, to me, seem like the type that would never themselves be able to do what dad did with evangelism, but can't give up on the programming dad put in their heads nor the bucks it still can generate. That is an observation about method, not sincerity.

People hate change and this delays reality for many who have grown up on the words of the evangelist, now dead. One local college where I live continues to play the sermons of the long dead founder even though two or three generations have taken over the family business of evangelizing since his death. I don't believe I have ever heard a sermon on the air by any of the sons, all identically named after the founder save for the II,III or IV behind the name. Some Christian evangelists might be happy to return to glory, but you'd never know it as family desperately tries to keep things the same  as always  before he became a Necro-Evangelist. Why do we do this and what is the message it sends? 

First of all, it matters not if it is a right or wrong thing to do. I am sure the argument is "well if we had Jesus or Paul on tape, would we not play it?" Well yes of course. We read their words every day still so hearing them on tape would just be a technological upgrade. However, pseudo-taperipha would probably be a problem and all we need is controversy over the "Jesus Tapes" to add to the already confusing topic of Biblical errancy issues. 

So while Necro-Evangelism might keep the family church, college or business going a few more generations, is it the thing to do really and what message does it send? One advantage is that, indeed, it does buy the unskilled or founder beaten children time to regroup and figure out what to do now that dad is gone. All their life they had preached that the Second Coming was going to for sure be in their lifetime but now what? Usually the first generation founds something, the second maintains it, and the third loses it all. Necro-Evangelism can postpone the Necro-evangelist having to being shown to be mistaken as they all are, for a time, but not for long. 

1. If family is involved,  Necro-evangelism tells the audience that the sons do not have the conviction or skills that dad may have had but aren't willing to give it up as something dad did but we don't wish to do. So we play dad's sermons and don't have to come up with our own, live ones.

 In my town, one such family member certainly does not have the voice quality or sound of conviction of his dad for sure, so I can see why he might wish to have dad keep it all going. He confines himself to introducing "my deceased dad, Dr...." and selling his tapes and even the library books his dad cherished, which obviously he doesn't. But he also has another line of work from what I understand, so does not depend on his Necro-Evangelist dad for his sole income.

2. Necro-Evangelism sends the message the survivors are spiritually lazy, but again, just can't give up on the potential to have a following or keep it all going. The second generation makes forays into the world of evangelism, usually getting caught up in politics more than dad did because down deep they know most of what dad either predicted or said did not really happen that way, and they just aren't convicted the same way dad was. 

Dad kept them out of "the world", and darn it, they are going to see it before they become Necro-Second-Generation-Evangelists too. Since dad impacted their lives with his own worldview, and often not in a very good way, they just don't have the same need to pass it along with dad the Necro-Evangelist's same fervor. In fact, they can't. So they busy themselves with producing dad's tapes and books and don't have to do much that shows their own creativity. They can run for public office or lecture as they wish, but keeping a ball rolling is much easier than getting it started. Anyone can be made the next president of a Necro-Evangelical College or Pastor of a Necro-Evangelistic Church. Starting the sucker is the hard part. Keeping it going can be a challenge but if we keep dearly departed dad in the picture, it is easier for sure.

3. Necro-Evangelism sends the message that the Necro-Evangelist knew all there was to know about the Bible and all related topics. There is nothing new to learn or even unlearn, since dad made no theological mistakes, which is not true. Since we all like to hear the "old, old story, let dad explain it over and over. This is one thing that is wrong with religion in general. It supposes that all it's spokesmen had it right to begin with. If they could read the bible, tell a few good stories, keep you interested and convince you that the reading was the same yesterday, today and forever, bingo!...why change a winning game? Problem is that for every tape played, there are many that can't be for they are either dated by comments made during the sermon or even the family realizes that how or what dad said that day is not true or not appropriate today so let's just not play that one. So you're really not getting the whole man, you are getting the "Best All Time Hits of the Necro-Evangelist," as selected by the next generation. That's kinda no fair to me!

4. Most of those that had been inspired by the now Necro-Evangelist are now themselves Necro-Christians so they aren't even around to hear dad anymore either. They were all about the same age and have long since moved on to other heavenly realms. The kids of those who loved the now Necro-Evangelist aren't going to be inspired by a dead man. Sorry, they just aren't. They will feel the above three points even if they don't voice it. Kids aren't stupid and will see what generations II and III might be up to and how lame it is. These kids tend to find churches by saying "as for me and my house, we shall serve a living evangelist" and not just the memory of the good ol' days when the parents thought the now Necro-Evangelist could do or say no wrong. I used to pastor a church that on way too many occasions sent out taped sermons from the then living Apostle and occasional Evangelist. It was hard enough when they were alive, don't make me listen when they are dead!"

Gerald Flurry: When Trump Is Reelected, He Will Deport PCG Members To Jerusalem

I think Gerald Flurry needs to be reported to the government for his assassination comment.  Given how incredibly crazy some COG members are in these lunatic fringe groups, there is a strong possibility that some whacked out member will do something stupid in order to make prophecy come alive.

From Exit and Support:

Flurry's "Prophecy" Might Shake Certain Members' Faith in Him:

August 2, 2019

If GF's "prophecy" in January 2017 [See January 14, 2017 PCG Letter] about President Trump fails, it might shake certain members' faith in GF. He has "prophesied" that Trump will be re-elected and will force the members of the PCG to be deported to Jerusalem, and will also be assassinated in his second term. --T. H.

Of course, we know it isn't going to happen.  It is just the diseased mind of Gerald Flurry dreaming up another lie like he is prone to do.  As his mental facilities deteriorate due to his alcoholism, his heart problems and advancing age, his mind begins dreaming up more and more idiotic scenarios, much like what Bwana Bob Thiel is doing.

Flurry is too stupid to realize that Israel would NOT accept a bunch of religious nuts from the United States into their country.  They prohibited Armstrongite David Ben-Ariel from entering the country as a single man, so they sure as hell would not let in a few thousand religious fanatics just because they restored a park in Jerusalem.

If we each had a dime every time a Church of God leader makes a false prophecy, we would all be multi-millionaires by now.  And yet, there are still gullible people who listen to these liars and send them their money.

Armstrongism, Atheism and Their Shared Predicate

“They never stop, these Stepford wives. They something something all their lives. Work like robots. Yes, that would fit. They work like robots all their lives.” 

― Ira Levin, The Stepford Wives

There is a striking commonality between Atheism and Armstrongism beyond the fact that they are both belief systems.  Though they may be antithetical in their larger purposes, the intersection between these two systems is to be found in their shared anthropology.  In short, both philosophies paradoxically deprecate the value of human beings.  Their deprecation is paradoxical because atheists often tout an impoverished form of humanism. And Armstrongism is highly dependent on human resources for financial viability.   Humans, the objects of their diminishment, are pivotal to both.

In Brief: The Atheistic Materialist Perspective on Humanity

Materialism recognizes nothing beyond the material realm.  It is typical for atheists to adopt materialism as their explanation of reality.  This seems to be a natural pairing.  The Universe to the materialist is a place of physical objects and forces where the credo is written in terms from physics and chemistry and other hard sciences.  Anything that transcends the physical is outside its purview and is denied. 

Materialism diminishes human beings to an accumulation of atoms and molecules.  Consciousness and thoughts, without any compelling rationale, are believed to be merely swarms of chemical reactions.   Humans are thought to be biobots, a kind of biological machine - a pleonastic fallacy.   And the frequent appeal to analogy is that the human mind is like a computer.  This comparison is inapt because non-thinking computers are programmed and operated by human minds.  If we are to go by the physical evidence alone, a comparison of our brain anatomy with that of our primate cousins would indicate that we should be only a little smarter than chimpanzees.  Our excess of sentience is enormous. 

But if a human is just a biological machine that means that he may be repaired, modified, corrected, repurposed and made to march to the drum of someone else’s intellectual pretensions.  To the atheist who is truly committed to the purity of materialism, the faunal human has no dignity. If someone claims that atheism does not deprecate humanity, that person needs to recognize the impact of mechanistic materialism on society: racism, control of lives, brainwashing, sterilizations, eugenics, compassionless survival-of-the-fittest social principles and humans as an impersonal resource. 

In Brief: The Armstrongist Perspective on Humanity

While Armstrongism does not present us with a documented systematic philosophy or a systematic theology, we may induce its attitudes towards human beings by examining practice in regard to the common lay member.   For example:

1.     Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA), based on his own words, had a low view of the lay membership of the Worldwide Church of God (WCG).  HWA saw them, principally through tithing, as little impersonal moving parts of a great machine called “The Work.”  He was the steersman of this great machine.  For example, he one time told the congregations that if they did not help him in doing “The Work”, God would raise up stones to replace them (a mishandling of Luke 19:40).   In other words, they were easily replaceable, like mechanical parts, and their humanity, salvation and theotic potential was not a concern.

2.    Robots require programming or they will be inert.  The programming imposed on church members included Old Testament regulations, New Testament regulations and denominational regulations and norms.   This legalism was like a stringent set of internal programs that made the biobots function as desired and curtailed deemed undesirable behavior, all at the expense of their humanity.

3.    The highly structured caste system of the WCG was also a means of diminishing people to the status of mechanistic modules.  Each module plugged into a carefully defined port in the great machine.  And each module recognized its immutable boundaries – the protocols for mechanistic operation and the attendant loss of human value. 

Thesis and Antithesis

Armstrongism and atheism are alike and unalike.   Unlike atheism, Armstrongism seeks to cloak itself in Christianity.  Unlike Armstrongism, atheism seeks to cloak itself inaptly in the august nobility of the scientific method.  Where they are both alike, the point of synthesis, is in their debasing humanity to the level of the utilitarian machine.  In the case of Armstrongism this is done by treating people like “cogs in a wheel” to induce a backflow of money and in the case of atheism this is done by relegating people to the status of mindless biobots so they can be, I suspect, controlled.  Whatever the purposes, whether apparent or inapparent, the dreadful impact is the same: the loss of the human and the formation of the soulless android.

 “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” 

― George Orwell, 1984

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