Saying Amen is Wrong? Missing the point all together.

The Egyptian Roots Of Why We Say Amen After Prayer

There was a post on Facebook the other day on one of the xCOG pages about the word "amen" and its supposed origins.  Several Armstromgites are taking this so seriously that they have split off from the group they are in and even from a group they founded in order to never have to say the word again...

Thought this was funny. What if we said Amen all those times heartening back to the “pagan” god of Amun in a church SO careful not to do anything even remotely of such origins??! I grew up in South Texas and we took a church youth field trip to a museum where we learned that tortillas were originally round in worship of the Sun god in Aztec culture. No ministers stopped chowing down on tacos. 🌮 Tacos continued to show up at every potluck and church picnic where I was from!! My point I guess is that the true roots of a lot of things are convoluted. Many hands have touched, for instance, what a cross means. It’s a very common symbol I’ve see engraved and sculpted by many cultures as I’ve had the opportunity to travel the world. Mrs. Armstrong saw what she thought were Easter eggs engraved in the walls in Egypt and HWA declared them pagan because something that looked like them decorated Ancient Egyptian ruins - I’ve seen those same engravings when I travelled there. Tour guides of multiple cultures have given me so many explanations for the meaning of the exact same symbol. The WCG/COGs not only are hypocritical in this, but they miss the point all together. I think things, symbols, and words hold the meaning we give them. Facebook

Yet, in COGland, some are taking so much offense at the word "amen" that they have resigned from their own church.  Ron Harmon, of The House of God, wrote this recently:

I don’t believe for one second amen is one of Jesus names, nor is God or any other name we use and amen won’t be used in His kingdom.

It is not credible that God would invoke the name of an Egyptian god when he regarded himself as the only true God and his own name as above all names. “I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other…” (Isaiah 42:8).

Even the name Lord here is improper, should actually say Yahweh.

But I don’t make folks adhere to the true translations either, I even try and not say the word lord, instead I use Eternal if I remember.

In John chapter one He is called the logo’s (word) and that is a correct interpretation as well.

But scriptures have been manipulated in so many areas of the bible, its really a matter of where one draws the line.

The word wasn’t used before Israel went into captivity, while in captivity there is no evidence they kept their complete language pure or unbroken, it wouldn’t even be practical to believe so.

It also isn’t practical to assume they worshiped only the God of Israel, they didn’t.

It is the reason why the true God did what He did when He brought Israel out of Egypt.

I don’t want to go word for word on this with you, all I need to know is what is your solution?

I’m fine with leaving the issue as it is and not bringing it up, but if you want it expunged from Austin’s lexicon and Franks archives, you’ll have to address the whole Austin congregation about it.

One last thing, I don’t in any way consider it blasphemous to our true Father or Christ to limit ones words he uses, especially when affirming another’s prayers or statements.

Mathew 5:33 “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ 34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.

Mike if you feel so strongly about my stance on this, then I gladly step down and you can chart the way of the church for the future. I’m not so wrapped up in this position it would bother me to step aside at this time.

Until then, I’m glad to let those that want to use amen use it, and those that don’t, not do so.

This has been my stance on the use of sacred names, and any other thing someone wants to believe.

It’s my desire we can get this issue behind us and we can stay friends and fellow workers for Christ but I won’t be forced to do something I don’t believe in, and I wouldn’t expect you or any other person to do so either.

And then this was sent out in December:

This is pastor Ron Harmon’s letter of resignation from the House of God in Texas:“To The Wonderful People of the House of God:

Unknown to most of you there has been a spiritual struggle occurring within our congregations. It was a battle not of my choosing, but it caused much tension in our home. This last Sunday at our annual meeting of the consul and ministers of the House of God, it all came to a conclusion.

This spiritual battle has been raging behind the scenes for many years bringing me to a final conclusion. I can’t work effectively when others I work with are so consumed by my different beliefs on ending prayers, not allowing camaraderie to exist.

As of Sunday (12th December 2017), Virginia and I are no longer members of the House of God. I won’t get into the specifics for the sake of the church, only to say the following. I cannot go against my convictions and how I see the scriptures. There are some in the leadership of the church who seem to believe my salvation is lost because of what I believe on one issue. I can only say this, you might be careful how you judge others and their salvation.

I will be continuing the work in the ways I can from my home. I’m not sure at this time how that will manifest itself, but the fact is, I can’t stop serving God.

I wish everyone well and God’s blessings. I’ve always tried to help make everyone’s lives a little better at the House of God and we hope you remember us fondly. Virginia and I are deeply saddened by what has transpired over the last few months. We are saddened to not be a part of your lives any longer, but we no longer feel welcomed, and we don’t go where we’re not welcomed.

God Bless you all: Ron Harmon.”  Church of God News

Typical of the Church of God.  Always majoring in minors instead of what is of real value.

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Lift Every Voice and Sing

Lift Every Voice and Sing

James Weldon Johnson, J. Rosamond Johnson







Lift every voice and sing 

Till earth and heaven ring 

Ring with the harmonies of Liberty 

Let our rejoicing rise 

High as the list'ning skies, let it resound loud as the
rolling sea 

Sing a song full of faith that the dark past has tought us

Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought
us 

Facing the rising sun of our new day begun 

Let us march on till victory is won 




Stony
the road we trod

Bitter the chast'ning rod

Felt in the day that hope unborn had died

Yet with a steady beat

Have not our weary feet

Come to the place on which our fathers sighed

We have come over a way that with tears has been watered 

We have come, treading our path through the blood of the
slaughtered 

Out from the gloomy past, till now we stand at last  

Where the white gleam of our star is cast




God of our weary years

God of our silent tears 

Thou who has brought us thus
far on the way

Thou who has by thy might

Led us into the light 

Keep us forever in the path,
we pray 

Lest our feet stray from the
places, our God, where we met thee

Lest our hearts, drunk with
the wine of the world, we forget thee 

Shadowed beneath the hand

May we forever stand 

True to our God

True to our native land

































As part of a celebration of Abraham Lincoln’s birthday on
February 12, 1900, “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was first publicly performed by
500 school children at the Stanton School in Jacksonville, Florida. The
school principal, James Weldon Johnson, wrote the words and
Johnson’s broth3r Rosamond set them to music. The children continued to sing
the song, popularizing it for generations to come. 



Later, the National Association for the Advancement of
Colored People 

(NAACP) adopted the song as the Black National Anthem.



In calling for earth and heaven to “ring with the
harmonies of Liberty,” the 

lyrics spoke out subtly against racism and Jim Crow
laws—and especially the huge number of lynching’s accompanying the rise of the
Klan at the turn of the century.



By the 1920s, copies of “Lift Every Voice and Sing” could
be found in Black churches across the country, often pasted into the hymnals.
The  

words to the poem/song and another poem by
Johnson can be read on the  

Civil Rights Movement Veterans website.



Learn about the history of “Lift Every Voice and Sing”
in  

May We Forever Stand: A History of the Black National Anthem  

(UNC Press, 2018) by Imani Perry.






 

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