Monday, February 13, 2023

Just as predicted, self-appointed crackpot COG prophet melts down over those Jesus Super Bowl commercials


 

We see conflict all around us. We align ourselves on different sides of the fight in battles of politics, religion, justice, and too often, we let that conflict morph from a dignified defense of something good into a dehumanizing attack on the people we don’t agree with. It’s tearing us apart.

But Jesus offered us an alternative as an example — and his solution wasn’t to grow apathetic and avoid the conflict altogether. He showed us something else entirely, a third way. His response to the ever-increasing volume of hate and conflict was love. Not just any love — confounding, sacrificial, selfless love. You see, Jesus still stood up for what he believed in. He defended the defenseless, spoke up on behalf of the voiceless, even flipped a few tables, but in everything he did, he first moved with love toward the people he disagreed with. What if we tried to love our enemies the way Jesus loved his? How would it change the tenor of our conflicts and our conversations?

Right on cue, as many predicted here, our illustrious self-appointed prophet of Sabbatarian heresies and questionable dreams had a meltdown over the Super Bowl commercials on Jesus. 

Two ads were bought to be aired during the Super Bowl talking about how Jesus "gets us" since he was one of us.

Nothing infuriates a self-righteous Church of God minister more than Jesus being mentioned, except maybe if you do not tithe regularly to them. Only "true" COG ministers know the "real" Jesus while those dumb stupid converted so-called "Christians" of the world know a "different" Jesus.

The great Bwama to Africa and a couple hundred Caucasians had this to say as he starts devaluing Jesus as an unknown figure to Christians around the world, just because old Herbert said so.

The Great Bwana also drags Paul into the mix, assuming that he was speaking about false Christians at the end of time, when in fact he was most likely talking about false COG preachers in the midst of the church preaching their false "christ". Paul knew that the professional Juadizers would ramp up their legalism and deliberately change the teaching of Christ to fit their Judaizing tendencies.

Many who claim Christianity do not know the real Jesus. The Apostle Paul warned that this type of thing could happen:

2 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted — you may well put up with it! (2 Corinthians 11:2-4)





Sunday, February 12, 2023

Dave Pack: the Mr. Magoo of words


No Rush

                 

David C. Pack’s strange drug analogy has done him no favors. During “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 418)” on February 9, he confessed that words are his heroin.

 

Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 01:41 I love words. I can't get enough of them…They are, I guess, my heroin.

 

Brad rolled his eyes at the back of the hall, no doubt.

 

David C. Pack loves to say words but is irritated when he hears them.

 

He manipulates words. He distorts words. He uses words as a weapon against critical thinking. He cannot be trusted with words. He lies and steals to support his habit. His own words are destroying his credibility. Wow. Maybe that smack parallel was dead on, after all.

 

Those who accurately publish the words of David C. Pack are perceived as enemies.

 

When David C. Pack says words, it means he was inspired by God.

 

When those exact words are exposed, it is inspired by the Devil.

 

Chew on that for a while.

 

During Part 418, Dave assaults THREE words to excuse his failure and prove the next iteration of his delusional prophetic construct. His typical maneuver is to find the most obscure definition in a Strong’s Concordance that will satiate his desire, then grasp that teat and suckle with all his might.

 

Habakkuk 2:2, “that he may RUN that reads it.”

 

2 Timothy 2:15, “…need not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth.”

 

Revelation 12:14, “…where she is NOURISHED for a time, and times, and a half a time…”

 

David C. Pack abuses words as would a whorish junkie. His corruption is blatant and pathetic.

 

But it is more than that.

 

The man is caught lying. The Pastor General running The Restored Church of God lied. Watch.

 

 

Dave revises his perception of Habakkuk 2:2 by admitting to misunderstanding his own misunderstanding.

 

@ 02:00 We're gonna look at the word that has a very different meaning than the one under which we have been laboring.

 

The only “we” part of that is Dave and Team Incompetent at Headquarters.

 

@ 02:27 “…Write the vision and make it plain on tables that he may run that calls it out.” All right. "Run" is the Hebrew word ruts…And it means "especially to rush." And that was kind of what I saw. But I never looked to see all the ways the word is translated.

 

Because he never needed to before. The already-perverted interpretation of Habakkuk 2:2, repeated for years and years and years, is about to change. Be seated for this.

 

@ 02:55 And what the word primarily means is "break it down." Break it down. Now, that matches "make it plain." Break it down. Now it means "divide the picture speedily," and it means "guard it." Now, none of those have anything to do with the speed other than divide it, break it down, guard it. You could say, do it reasonably fast.

 

This is the most tortured, back-and-forth explanation Dave has uttered in recent memory. The war between his ears is real. The battle between reality and imagination is being fought on the ground, sea, air, and outer space.

 

He just said, "none of those have anything to do with the speed," but in the very next sentence, "do it reasonably fast." I never graduated from college, but my limited understanding of English causes me to associate “speed” with “fast.”

 

Perhaps Brad could utilize his keen science skills to explain to Dave how “speed” and “fast” relate. Or he could write me at exrcgwebsite@gmail.com to explain how they do not.

 

@ 03:24 And the word means "to stretch out." Stretch it out. Now that would be the opposite of really rushing or running. In other words, it's almost saying, "take your time."

 

WHAT!?! Dave just interpreted the word “run” to actually mean “take your time.”

 

Edward Winkfield was crying in his seat during this explanation. I wonder if he had to excuse himself to the bathroom so he could wipe the cold sweat from his brow. Did you take a good, long look in the mirror, Ed? If not, after Part 418, you need to.

 

Elijah is not supposed to “rush to call it out” any longer? Elijah is commanded to take his time? What?


Dave should have been chanting for the last seven years, "It's no rush to call it out. We've got time."

 

 

Dave proves he is the Mr. Magoo of words.

 

This is where his piss-poor reading comprehension skills drive past Hebrew and Greek to blow through the walls of basic English. He nodded off at the wheel with the needle still in his arm.

 

ruwts (H7323)

A primitive root; to run (for whatever reason, especially to rush): - break down, divide speedily, footman, guard, bring hastily, (make) run (away, through), post, stretch out.

 

There are 103 occurrences in the Old Testament, according to Strong's. This word was translated as "stretch out" once, which is why it was the LAST POSSIBLE meaning.

 

Psalm 68:31

Princes shall come out of Egypt; Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hands unto God.

 

That is so funny. That one time Dave needs “stretch out” to relate to speed, it does not. Dooh.

 

When you stretch out your hand, are you slowing it down or extending it? Yeah, well, Dave does not get that. He needs it to mean slow down, so slow down is what he asserts.

 

No. I have to take that back. This scenario is worse than that. Dave KNOWS what it really means but is willfully lying to everyone.

 

David C. Pack stood at the lectern in the Main Hall at The Restored Church of God Headquarters in Wadsworth on Thursday, February 9, 2023, and knowingly lied to the faces of the paid staff.

 

Care to challenge me on that, Brad? Dr. Ranney has my number.

 

Dave knows “stretch out” did not mean “take your time” but presented that anyway because the people in their seats did not have a laptop with eSword fired up. Only those who care enough to follow along with eSword and Strong’s Concordance would catch him.

 

Busted, bitch.

 

He knew this but pushed deeper into that thinking anyhow.

 

David C. Pack is not a man to be trusted. He seems incapable of speaking the truth anymore. Facts expose the lies David C. Pack shamelessly tells The Restored Church of God.

 

The Expanded Exhaustive Concordance is more detailed than the short summary in eSword. The heroin Dave loves so much is what discredits him.

 

ruwts (H7323)

1) Ruwts signifies moving very quickly or hastening, rather than running

2) It can mean to run

3) In a military sense, the charging into battle

 

There is even more along those lines, but you get the picture.

 

Despite all the evidence, Dave pushes on in an incredibly convoluted way to sell his point. Watch him twist and contort, trying his best not to show his hand. He knows he is performing verbal gymnastics.

 

@ 03:37 It involves “what you are going to explain, do it kinda quickly. But stretch it out. Be plain. Break it down. Be kind of fast but granular.” And I guess 418 messages with this one, it was stretched out. Now what's interesting is there is a speed element to it.

 

In one sentence, “stretch” means to “take your time.” In another sentence, “stretch” means to “extend it out.” Is this a multiple personality disorder expressing itself?

 

The man is not making any sense. That is not being snarky. He really makes no sense.

 

Stretch it out, but kinda quickly? The laws of physics just broke in Wadsworth.

 

Follow his logic string to get from “run” to “take your time.”

 

run --> rush --> break it down --> stretch it out --> take your time

 

In the mind of David C. Pack, to run means to take your time. As a fun exercise, go through the Bible and replace “run” with “take your time.” This creates plenty of humorous moments.

 

Genesis 18:2

…three men stood by him: and when he [Abram] saw them, he TOOK HIS TIME to meet them from the tent door and bowed himself toward the ground.

 

Joel 2:7

They shall TAKE THEIR TIME like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war…

 

Nahum 2:4

…they shall seem like torches, they TAKE THEIR TIME like the lightnings.

 

David C. Pack’s fraud is so desperate even the Bible can no longer hide his trickery.

 

But it gets even worse.

 

 

@ 04:01 Turn over to Second Timothy for a moment. And let's notice something about God's ministers and what they're supposed to be able to do. In fact, we have to be able to do this.

 

David C. Pack is about to prove how incapable he and the hirelings at Headquarters are.

 

@ 04:42 Now, words are important, but people can get hung up on them. Start splitting hairs and straining at gnats and swallowing camels and can subvert people. Overthrow them.

 

This is precisely what the man is doing. Irony is banging on the door.

 

Watch Dave slide between truth and error. He smeared his body with Crisco, so he could glide from fact to fiction inside the same sentence leaving the audience unaware of which is which.

 

@ 04:55 But as a result of that, or therefore, because "study to show yourself approved under God a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." Now, the word “study” is spoudazō, remember. And that means "use speed." It means "use speed," but "rightly dividing" means "go slower." And it's the word orthotomeō.

 

“Rightly dividing” is used once and does not mean “go slower.”

 

orthotomeō (G3718)

From a compound of G3717 and the base of G5114; to make a straight cut, that is, (figuratively) to dissect(expound) correctly (the divine message): - rightly divide.

 

A valuable addition to the definition is found in the Expanded Exhaustive Concordance.

 

What is intended here is not “dividing” Scripture from Scripture, but teaching Scripture accurately, carefully discerning each nuance.

 

That is NOT what David C. Pack or the enablers at Headquarters of The Restored Church of God are doing. If they were, “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series would be long-dead, and Dave would be stuffing mailers for a living in his studio apartment in Akron.

 

Dave slipped in his own idea without tipping off the audience. That act was so appealing he does it again. Maybe the dopamine kick of dishonesty was already wearing off.

 

@ 05:26 Rightly divide it. Break it down. Divide it speedily. That's the Hebrew. And it means "make straight cuts." And it also means "dissect or expound correctly," but do it quickly.

 

He takes two disconnected verses and holds them up as supporting each other.

 

David C. Pack inserts his own distortions into the Hebrew and Greek words, then puts them into a verbal blender to create a malarkey shake of biblical sorcery.

 

How is this not walking in craftiness?

 

Speed has nothing to do with “rightly dividing.” But, the audience would not know that unless they fact-check him afterward.

 

@ 05:50 Now, they almost seem like opposites. If you're gonna get things right, go slow. "Haste makes waste and makes mistakes." But God's ministers are supposed to be able to, and they're told to, move fast and be right at the same time. And that's not always possible.

 

How is this not handling the word of God deceitfully? He is blaming the Bible for his shortcomings again. God was asking the “not always possible” of His ministers. That is not a god I would want to serve.

 

Dave molested “run” in Habakkuk and “rightly divide” in 2 Timothy just so he could arrive here:

 

@ 06:19 So, there was never any real rush, per se, that I thought pertained to a last message or two or five. It was "cover, maybe, a lot of material, but get it right." And hope I have done that.

 

David C. Pack will never get it right. That is a fool’s hope.

 

His explanations regarding those Hebrew and Greek words are nonsensical, illogical, and false. This is the twisted thinking of the guy running a church.

 

@ 06:38 The meaning was always entirely different than what we thought. It is not a statement about how the last messages I would be sorta running in here and delivering them and rushing through the material. So, it was not a signal at any point that we were near the end. We all know we are now.

 

Entirely different than what HE thought. And yet, none of his conclusions are valid. The words do not mean what he now says they mean. That is not an opinion. The facts bear that out plainly.

 

Dave is the one who always sells the-end-is-nigh for whatever mathematical or metric-related reason. But, it is never HIS fault. The Bible is to blame. God is to blame. Those dirty, rotten, stinking translators screwed him again.

 

The “we weren’t then, but we are now” line is tired. Have pity on the misguided folks in RCG who still believe that after the previous 417 derps.

 

 

Wow. That was the first seven minutes of Part 418. Did I over-sell its madness?

 

The molestation of “nourished” in Revelation 12:14 is not so much a blatant lie as it is just stupid. Dave plays dumb with that word to get him into another timeline for prophetic disappointment. That will be covered in another article.

 

 

It is no exaggeration to say David C. Pack is deteriorating. We are witnessing the mental downfall of a devious, arrogant human being who resorts to falsifying definitions to buy more unwarranted credibility in the eyes of the members of The Restored Church of God.

 

His treachery is easier to spot because his desperation grows more frantic.

 

There is a massive conscience BBQ behind the closed gates in Wadsworth on Super Bowl Sunday.

 

The men at Headquarters know who and what David C. Pack is. Yet, they keep their mouths shut and continue to cash the checks. They see him lie, but they excuse it. It is sad to think that all the men with any integrity have already departed.

 

These enablers stand alongside a documented liar:

 

Bradford Schleifer - Edward Winkfield - Ryan Denee - Jaco Viljoen

Kenneth Orel - Carl Houk - Timothy Ranney - Salasi Jezhi

James Habboush - Andrew Holcombe - Frank Lydick - Raymond Garb

 

Brethren of RCG, “Why does your Pastor General lie to you in order to prove his truthfulness?”

 

You can ask any of those men, but remember…there is no rush.

 


Marc Cebrian

See: No Rush

Saturday, February 11, 2023

UPDATED: Bob Thiel: Jesus HATES the Super Bowl and it's Nearly Naked Cheerleaders!




Update:  

It is Super Bowl time and Bob Thiel had his annual meltdown. This year he is really perturbed that over 100,000,000 people will INTENTIONALLY tune to watch the game. Imagine that! INTENTIONALLY! What a bunch of backsliding Laodiceans!

This coming Sunday is known as “Super Bowl Sunday” in the USA. Most years, the American football (which is not the same as the sport called soccer in the USA) contest known as the Superbowl is the most watched television program in the USA. Over 100,000,000 are expected to intentionally (as opposed to perhaps seeing a news item about it) watch at least some of it this year according to various reports.

This year he has to drag in Apostle John who was against American Football, big time!

Tackle football fans WANT one team to repeatedly knock down players of the opposing team. They get a thrill and satisfaction from their team winning. 
 
But for many tackles to happen, one or more players often get, at least slightly, injured and sometimes permanently so. 
 
To encourage this as a fan and to be pleased when it happen simply is not good for Christians and is harmful for character development–including developing more of the love of God. 
 
The Apostle John was inspired to write, “he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also (1 John 4:20-21).

Encouraging and celebrating violent physical contact (tackling) is not showing love towards players.

He is also perturbed this year that regular Church of God members will watch the game. The horrors!

Tackle football is a lust of the flesh and eyes. Those who claim to be Christian and endorse it are letting the pride of life deceive them. 
 
How many who are in the COGs love the worldly sport of American tackle football and really do not care that it causes irreparable harm to its participants? Is it not another reason that some watch because of their lust for violence and/or for social acceptance? 
 
This is not what loving Christians should do.

The great prophet has determined that football will NOT be allowed in his kingdom to come.

Since American football games, like the Super Bowl, intentionally inflict various hurts, the following scripture supports the idea that American football will not be allowed in the Millennium:

9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
As the waters cover the sea. (Isaiah 11:9, NKJV)

While “love does no harm to a neighbor” (Romans 13:9), what do sports like American football do? 
 
A while back, on the night before the Super Bowl, I saw portions of TBN’s Christian World News. Towards the end, they interviewed players on the teams in that scheduled Super Bowl game who professed Christ. The players, individually, basically stated that their faith was more important than winning the Super Bowl. But none said that they would renounce violence, not harm others, or not participate in the game because of its negative fruits.

 
 
Additionally, of the multitude of groups that profess Christ, it appears that only an actual or relative handful or so will tell their members that they should not be fans of American tackle football. Sometimes they will not denounce it because their leaders are fans, sometimes because they are afraid that they might lose members and/or money, and sometimes because of all of those reasons.

Would Jesus want you to watch the Super Bowl? What about the Apostle Paul who warned against approving violence? The same Apostle Paul who said to imitate him as he imitated Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1). Would Jesus or the Apostle Paul watch the Superbowl as football fans rooting for one team to crush the other team?

“Perhaps,” some might answer. And still others may ridicule and/or dismiss what I have written. 
 
However, if Jesus Himself did watch the Super Bowl, would He watch it and hope that one team would tackle and crash into members of the other team? Or might He watch it, if He did, so He could make social commentary against the violence and/or distorted priorities of the land? 
 
Would Jesus take pleasure in humans damaging other humans for entertainment?

Bob Thiel presumes to speak for the guy that he claims to follow but can never talk about except when it comes to using him as a prop to promote a pet topic.

Thiel has been on the warpath against football for quite some time now.  He is particularly galled that today is Super Bowl Sunday and over 100,000,000 people may INTENTIONALLY watch it!

Thiel writes:
Today is known as “Super Bowl Sunday” in the USA. Most years, the American football (which is not the same as the sport called soccer in the USA) contest known as the Superbowl is the most watched television program in the USA. Between 100,000,000-200,000,000 are expected to intentionally (as opposed to perhaps seeing a news item about it) watch at least some of it today according to various reports.
Then in his next sentence, he has this to say:
Since most people in the USA have, at one time or another, made some hint of professing following Jesus, a relevant question may be:
Would Jesus want you to watch the Super Bowl?

Lest we forget, in Thiel speak whenever he talks about "professing" followers of Jesus he is talking about the "SO-CALLED" harlot daughters of the Catholic church.  These unwashed UNCONVERTED masses are worthless fake Christians that follow Jesus instead of the law.   Whenever Thiel throws around the "so-called" and the "hint of professing" style Christians he is ultimately trying to tell you that there are REAL "professing" Christians and "called" ones.  Of course, the "called" ones can only be found in the Continuing Ed Church of God.


 Jesus only plays soccer!  Real CONVERTED Christians know that!

Thiel finds American football to be offensive because of the "violence" in it.  He writes:
After seeing the injuries that some of my high school football-playing colleagues suffered, I could not reconcile the scriptures with American football. There are better ways for Christians to learn principles like teamwork from other sports or activities than watching actual violence such occurs in American tackle football.
I think the root of the matter may lie deeper than the "violence" he wants to see.  Did Thiel really want to be on the football team but was ultimately too unfit for it?  That is the impression I have heard people had that were in LCG listening to his malarkey.  Was he rejected and therefore humiliated in front of his peers?  Many seem to think so.

Thiel then brings John the Baptist into the mix. Thiel cherishes his flesh too much to dare to play football:
Also, notice what John the Baptist taught soldiers:
14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. (Luke 3:14, KJV)
I could not reconcile loving my neighbor as myself and cherishing my flesh and not doing violence to any man by watching others do it in a football game. Nor the following:
9…You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. (Romans 13:9-10, NKJV)

 

Thiel then quotes Theophilus as the authority on refusing to watch football.  Because football is violent in Thiel's eyes he thinks it is comparable to Christians being martyred in the Forum or gladiators fighting to death.   What a moronic comparison.  Of course, Christians did not attend events where people fought to their death.  To compare football to that same kind of violence is stretching the point to absurdity.
The New Testament also warns Christians against being violent or approving of those that are (Romans 1:28-32), while history records that early Christians would not watch violent sports. Notice one such report from Theophilus of Antioch perhaps written about 180 A.D.:

Consider, therefore, whether those who teach such things can possibly live indifferently, and be commingled in unlawful intercourse, or, most impious of all, eat human flesh, especially when we are forbidden so much as to witness shows of gladiators, lest we become partakers and abettors of murders. But neither may we see the other spectacles, lest our eyes and ears be defiled,

Then, Thiel just sinks further into his madness.  Football is EVIL and so are the cheerleaders!
Since I do not actually watch American football, I do not know how many violent acts are likely at today’s Super Bowl, but the number is likely to be very high, and maybe even a lot more if thoughts of violence are included (cf. Matthew 5:21-22).

In my view, the tackle version of the sport of American football is evil (touch football I would not consider to be inherently evil–though attitude is still a possible factor there). Also, no Christian can really defend how professional football cheerleading females are publicly dressed and displayed–and presumably some of how they will be displayed at today’s Super Bowl game.

In the world Thiel is going to be King and Ruler over as God, he is not going to allow American football to be played.


Since American football games, like the Super Bowl, intentionally inflict various hurts, the following scripture supports the idea that American football will not be allowed in the Millennium:
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
As the waters cover the sea. (Isaiah 11:9, NKJV)

Thiel concludes with this.  When you look at it, it really makes sense to a follower of Armstrongism.  The Jesus they think the world knows is this weak, effeminate, pussy-boy who is too delicate to play tackle football. 
Would Jesus want you to watch the Super Bowl?  What about the Apostle Paul who warned against approving violence?  The same Apostle Paul who said to imitate him as he imitated Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1).  Would Jesus or the Apostle Paul watch the Superbowl as football fans routing for one team to crush the other team?

Perhaps, some might say. And some may ridicule and/or dismiss what I have written.
If Jesus Himself did watch the Super Bowl, would He watch it and hope that one team would tackle and crash into members of the other team? Or might He watch it, if He did, so He could make social commentary against the violence and/or distorted priorities.
Say what??????????  Jesus is now a sports commentator?????

Thiel needs to stop making such a fool out of himself with these worthless and idiotic promotions of personal opinion.  Armstrongism is based purely upon personal opinion instead of having anything to do with Jesus or reality. 
Even Jesus appreciates a well-played touchdown!


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