Remember this Bob Thiel??????? Bob Thiel's African Representative Sentenced to Life in Prison for Shooting at Police When Being Arrested for Fraud

This was posted WEDNESDAY, APRIL 23, 2014. Bob's church has been corrupt from the start! 

Bob Thiel's new church is off to a rollicking start! One of his minister/representatives has been sentenced to life in prison for a shoot-out with police and for fraud.

Bob was such a good evaluator of character that he brought on George Obunga Otieno as his representative in the African region. Bob did not do due diligence in vetting the guy.  Otieno scammed another COG prior to joining up with Thiel.

I guess that "double dose" of the holy spirit did not do much to open Thiel's eyes.

James Malm is reporting the following saga of the Thiel/Otieno situation

About a year ago I wrote to Bob Thiel warning him about fraud in east Africa particularly in Kenya.  He responded thanking me and saying that he was being very careful, then he took on George Obunga Otieno as his rep in the region.  
 
George was later found to be a scammer and Bob was invited to hold his Feast with Richard Trevor and Bill Goff’s group; because of the lateness of the time, and for economic reasons due to the G. Otieno situation. 

Richard Trevor informs me that:   

We knew it first, [Actually I knew it first and warned Bob] and with much persuasion, convinced Bob that he wasn’t trustable.  The man (George Obunga Otieno) is now in jail with a life sentence for engaging in a shootout with the police when they came to arrest him for other fraudulent activities.  He was sentenced within weeks.  The US could take a lesson.  AND, the fellow’s cousin, Polycap Ogalo, is (was?) [employed] with the Police there, but has been conspicuous by his absence since we discovered his [He also tried to defraud these groups] fraud with us.  He might’ve been fired, but all who know of the situation are mum. 

The man (George Obunga Otieno) scammed James Russell before Bob, taking a large amount to fund a feast for him (CoG in Truth).  Though he used a different name (that’s common in Africa) we suspected he was one-and-the-same fellow by his mailing address and by using another person to enquire about the FoT in Homa Bay, we realized it was a ruse.  It never happened.  That was to be Bob’s site, and we had been working on one nearby, but thought it better to merge the two [allowing Bob to join the other folks site after his letdown with George].   

Bob Thiel recently made a trip to Kenya partially funded by Richard Trevor and Bill Goff to hold a COG convention.   

That was our interest, to have some credentialed person meet and evaluate the situation.  That’s why we helped with the funding of this [Bob's] trip.  Earlier, we intended that the Kenyans host their own elders’ convention, so that they could meet and assess the genuinety of each other, but when Bob indicated he was intending to go there, that proved the better option, and less costly.   Quite a large number of elders did attend.

Malm then points out Thiel's claim that he has 20 some congregations in East Africa is not true.  This is something that many of us have suspected all along.

I am informed that these groups will continue with the same foreign sponsors as before, and that the purpose of this meet was a “get to know your neighbor event”, to fight any possible future scams.  There are several independent groups involved in the meetings and Thiel’s claim that  CCOG currently has over 20 congregations in East Africa, with more expected soon.” is purely in his own imagination; unless he is attempting a takeover of these other groups.   

In fact Thiel may have attempted to entice these various groups to join CCOG [hence the 20 congregations claim]; which is why Bill Goff and other COG leaders have now rushed to Kenya to asses the situation.  The meetings were meant as cooperation against fraud: Did Thiel  use their money to go to Kenya to try and poach their congregations?  

It was Bob who convinced them to partially fund and send him.   “we intended that the Kenyans host their own elders’ convention, so that they could meet and assess the genuinety of each other, but when Bob indicated he was intending to go there, that proved the better option, and less costly.”  Now that Bill Goff had to rush to Kenya anyway,  it does not appear much cheaper than him going in the first place.

Angry African Minister Of Bob Thiel Says: "Once you come I will arrest you completely if you think am joking try."

Below is a letter one of Bob Thiel's African "ministers" sent to Terry Nelson. Apparently, he has watched the Great Bwana and Chief Overseer with his anger issues and feels he can do the same thing. 

Such a loving attitude! Bob has trained him well!

"Radson Mulozowa is very mad that the entire CCOG in Malawi has also left because of his whoring after Women and Demon Magic" 

 

 

From: RADSON MULOZOWA <radsonmulozowa@_____>
Date: Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: A Demonic man
To: Terry Nelson <vitalogydoc@______>


A Dog like you you can't do anything to me 

 

A prostitute like you 

 

Can a demon lead church of God 

 

Foolish person who is making Priscilla suffering because of loans 

 

Plan your coming and see what will happen to you 

 

You are joking terry am not a fool like you who is buy brethren with money not the truth 

 

Am tired with you and all your agents in Malawi are going to testify about all the videos you have been sending against me 

 

If foster is saying the truth why is he hiding from police to answer the videos 

 

I will not tolerate the foolish move you are doing 

 

Enough is enough 

 

Shame on you a foolish terry 

 

You are going to regret soon

That's why Dr Bob didn't ordained you as a minister because of demons operating in you  

Then in another email, Radson sent this: 

Let me tell you that you will never come to Malawi . Once you come I will arrest you completely if you think am joking try. 

 

May children are suffering because of a hyena like you who come to Malawi as a minister not knowing that you were a bat 

 

Before you come to Malawi all was well with Priscilla but when foolish terry come you mislead my wife in the name of starting organization inorder to fulfill your desire. 

 

Am not happy with you and you are going to know who is Mulozowa. 

 

Though am assisting them it's different from the time i.was close with them 

 

Priscilla is being taken to police now and then because of loans from different people because of your foolish advice from you 

 

When I was with Priscilla he was not sleeping without food he had plenty of food.i was able to harvest 70 bags of maize. This year she has nothing from the garden and she is starving because of a dog like you 

 

Once you get here am going to arrest you completely 

 

You have destroyed the future of my children they were happy but you have removed their happiness because of your foolish minds 

 

Know that am not happy with you and I will act strongly 

 

Had it being you loved her why couldn't you square all the loans she has because of your foolish calling 

 

A Demonic man, a Dog like you destroying my family inorder to get rich in Africa 

 

God is going to punish you completely 

 

Did God called you to destroy families or preach the gospel 

 

I don't know who called you a wizard like you is it God 

 

Am not happy with you a son of snake 

 

That's why you were an able to preach but reading pamphlets as catholic priest 

 

Had it being you loved Priscilla,why is she starving to survive 

 

Priscilla is now a begger yet since I got married to her she have never gone to police department because of loans 

 

Sort all the loans she has because it has happened because of you and she is not at peace because of summons from police now and then 

 

If you are in love why failing to assist her to the point that she do sleep without food 

 

The future of my children was bright but you have turned it to bad that's why am not happy with you a big foolish terry and Alexander 

 

Look Benjamin has failed to write her examination because you have spooled his mind and he can't come to me to ask for assistance 

 

Go to mental hospital you are totally mad in destroying future of my children 

 

Very foolish terry together with your son Andre 

 

Am not happy with you destroying my family inorder to get my children suffer many things 

 

Very soon am starting dealing with people who have destroyed the future of my children

Bitter COG Prophet Still Angry At Living Church of God

 

Our most highly favored prophet to ever grace the Church of God movement posted an article on April 13 that included an article from Vox titled "How to forgive someone who isn't sorry".

After the article, the Great Bwana had this to say:

Yes, it is good for us to be merciful and forgiving:

17 The merciful man does good for his own soul,

But he who is cruel troubles his own flesh.  (Proverbs 11:17)

In Matthew 18:7, Jesus said “offenses must come” so we should expect to be offended.

As far as forgiving someone who has not repented, Jesus prayed:

29 … “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.” (Luke 23:29)

Remember that the Apostle Paul taught we were to imitate Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1).

Our God is most merciful:

8 The Lord is merciful and gracious,

Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy.  (Psalm 103:8)

Mercy mirrors God’s very character. God is truly a forgiving Father. We have to be His merciful and forgiving children.

It is interesting that he posts this AFTER his "Passover" service, a night that the COG movement looks to  as a night for wiping the slate clean for the previous year's sins. One would've expected that such an article would have been sent to his dwindling faithful BEFORE "Passover" so that they could cleanse their hearts of bitterness and anger towards others that may have offended them. But this is Bob, after all, and letting go is NOT one of his attributes.

The Great Bwana continues:

Being longsuffering includes being able to forgive trespasses against us.  Paul also told the Collossians:

12 Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering; 13 bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do. 14 But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. (Colossians 3:12-14)

Yes, love and forgive. Yet many, including Christians, do not seem to want to forgive and let go.

The Apostle Peter taught:

5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. (2 Peter 1:5-7)

Passover apparently did not work too well for Bob this year as he is already sinning by letting his anger get to him by dragging up once again how Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God IGNORED his demands to change its teachings to fit HIS interpretations.

This now brings us to today's blog entry by the Great Bwana on how ignorant the Philadelphia Church of God and the Living Church of God are on the tribulation and when it is to arrive "PCG and LCG still have the Great Tribulation starting too late!"

It is one of his usual rants on how he is more highly biblically educated than either of the two groups, particularly when it comes to end-time prophecy and the tribulation. Nothing gets a COG leader off more than looking forward to mayhem and death upon the people of the world.

Gerald Flurry also wrote the following in his Daniel –Unsealed at Last!booklet:

THE GREAT TRIBULATION

The verses preceding Daniel 11:40 discuss what happens in the Church prior to the Tribulation. (Flurry G. Daniel –Unsealed at Last! PCG booklet, 2016, p 82)

No, while some verses in Daniel 11 do discuss the Church, the verses in Daniel 11 immediately preceding verse 40 are NOT describing what happens to the Church prior to the start of the Great Tribulation. Notice what Daniel specifically wrote there:

36 “Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. 37 He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. 38 But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. 39 Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain. (Daniel 11:36-39)

The Great Tribulation starts no later than Daniel 11:39.

PCG, just like LCG, has the Great Tribulation starting too late.

The two Geralds need to kneel at the feet of the all-knowing Bob so he can educate them as to the true meaning of scripture. Yes, I know! What a ludicrous thought, but this is Bob, after all.

Then the Great Bwana launches in on the Living Church of God. His bitterness at their rejection of him still eats at his core. 13-14 years later and he still cannot let it go. When his spiritual Daddy, Rod Meredith publicly rejected his biblical interpretation and his prophethood status, that was the ultimate coup de grâce for Bob.

Both of these church groups, readers of this blog, and all other COG groups out there will be left behind while Bob heads off to Petra to start his reeducation camp for this faithful who will have somehow been magically transported for all over Africa to the place of final training to be gods, goddesses, kings, priests, and rulers of galaxies as Bob sits on his throne next to Christ.

Here is a statement from LCG’s Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs:

THE “GREAT TRIBULATION”

The Bible speaks of a time of great catastrophe, called the “Great Tribulation” (Matthew 24:21–22; Daniel 11:40–45; 12:1; Luke 21:19–36)—also called “Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:3–7).

That “Fundamental Belief” is scripturally in error. And when I was in LCG, its evangelists Dr. Roderick C. Meredith, Dr. Doug Winnail, and Richard Ames all agreed that it was in error. And Dr. Meredith promised in a meeting with them and myself that LCG’s Official Statement of Fundamental Beliefs would be changed before the end of January 2012 to correct it.

But, that did not happen.

So, now, since PCG and LCG still officially teach that the Great Tribulation does not begin until Daniel 11:40 (which discusses the battle between the King of the North and the King of the South), they are looking for the wrong event, while overlooking the event in verse 39.

Unless PCG and LCG change on this, and other significant prophetic errors they hold, they will NOT know when the Great Tribulation will begin until after it is too late for nearly all of their members to possibly flee to the place of protection that the true Philadelphian Christians will be protected at.

There are serious theological and prophetic differences between various groups calling themselves Church of God.

Jesus warned that most endtime Christians would be Laodicean and NOT take the proper spiritual steps to be protected from the coming “hour of trial” (Revelation 3:10).

No real Christian in their right mind would ever be following Bob Thiel. If you truly had faith in the God you claim to follow and were a follower of Jesus; to follow Bob would be to destroy your spiritual life. Bitterness, anger, and not letting go are sins that Bob cannot escape. His ministers in Africa see this and they also act accordingly. Another article will follow that shows how much anger and bitterness fill the minds of one of Bob's ministers in Africa.

No one should ever put their trust in Bob Thiel to tell them when the tribulation arrives. He has no idea either, regardless of how much he lies that he does. Besides, if a Christian is following Jesus then they have no need for concern. They rest in the assurance he brings and not in the blathering of self-appointed illegitimate COG leaders who let their lives continually be filled with bitterness and anger.

 

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