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Saturday, April 1, 2017
The Mind You Save May Be Your Own
1. Tacit Enabler - Supports another's bad habits by staying silent.
2. Overt Enabler - Supports another's bad habits by providing assistance such as money, transportation, approval, etc...
A person who supports another person's bad or dangerous habits (Author note: Or interpretations, title taking and rules for others to follow)
Enablers tend to fear calling others on their destructive habits because these "others" tend to be friends, family or others close to the enabler.
Thus, rather than risk losing the love, respect, friendship or contact with the person, the enabler chooses instead to play it safe and watch the other slowly destroy themselves or others through their own actions.
2. Overt Enabler - Supports another's bad habits by providing assistance such as money, transportation, approval, etc...
A person who supports another person's bad or dangerous habits (Author note: Or interpretations, title taking and rules for others to follow)
Enablers tend to fear calling others on their destructive habits because these "others" tend to be friends, family or others close to the enabler.
Thus, rather than risk losing the love, respect, friendship or contact with the person, the enabler chooses instead to play it safe and watch the other slowly destroy themselves or others through their own actions.
The Churches of God are full of enablers and those who, at best, are standing up on the inside, i.e. reserving judgment or actually disagreeing on the inside, but sitting down dutifully on the outside.
From the rubber stamping church board or council, to the congregants as a whole, the crazy man who dreams up, surely finds himself spoken of by the prophets or simply seizes his place and title through the shear power of his will and narcissism, eventually provides everyone that enables a reason to give pause for themselves to ask, "why do?did I do that?"
Example: From "Why Unification Now?" Dave Pack, 2013
"15) Next, for those who will see the value of how to pursue
spiritual matters, there is this: After fervently seeking God about it, not
one reason the prophecy is off this year ever emerged in the minds of even
one of our 16 Headquarters ministers! I (we) have NEVER prayed about, studied
over, meditated on, fasted about and counseled with other ministers regarding a
subject more than this one—in fact no other subject is even close!Now comes a series of reasons Haggai’s prophecy will be fulfilled this year.
Shame on these still unknown 16 who should know better by now
16) Similarly, as questions emerged throughout our pursuit of truth with the
many details of the prophecy, so many of these details kept coming clear as
direct answers to prayer. And these were often immediate.
These prayers and truths weren't really answered and the truths weren't true. They were only "immediate" because Dave already knew what he was going to say and do. Anyone within the enablers ever bother to point this out to Dave Pack ever?
If not:
Sadly, and of course, Dave Pack was miserably wrong in 2013 about all this which needs to be provided from time to time to remind his and other enablers of bad theology and terrible spiritual leadership they have a responsibility to speak up and question "if you were this wrong then with such enthusiasm and surety, why would we think you are correct this time?"
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3) Also related, if God waited 2,500 years to reveal the prophecy’s meaning
(3,000 years when various related much older Psalms are considered), is not His
waiting done? Does His revealing it not signal that He has reached the time to
fulfill it rather than having reached a point one, two or three years out?
4) Next, why would God wait longer? What would He wait for? The remnant is
absolutely ripe for deliverance.
5) Internally, and this is no small thing, God’s Church is truly
ready to expand the Work in a BIG WAY. The prophecy features
this as the MAIN PURPOSE of the remnant returning! Without the
prophecy’s fulfillment, this expansion would be delayed one year—or more! Why
would God notify His Church of the prophecy’s existence at the very same time
our staff is ready, our websites are ready, our literature is ready and even
God’s college is ready for more students if the prophecy were not
imminent? Why would God notify His Church if HE were not ready?
6) Related to this, the buildings on our campus can very soon handle
significantly more staff than we have now. This is already true without
the other two buildings scheduled for completion in the late fall. However, this
extra size works perfectly if the prophecy occurs this year.
7) Also related, but separate, our infrastructure is ready to
receive and serve a much larger flock this fall! This includes field ministry
being ready, but also other things.
8) Maturing interest from many in the world due to one year of explosive
television expansion requires many more laborers in the ministry by this
autumn.
9) The Restored Church of God is experiencing an AWESOME period of growth and
development at this time—in the runup period just prior to the prophecy’s
fulfillment. This is putting it mildly! To us, this is powerful indication that
we are on the right track for this year—that God is not only pleased
with His Church, but that He is helping it get ready.
11) If reunification occurred next year (or any year after), those with God’s
Spirit would have one more year cut off from God’s Church. This carries the
potential for more to quench the Holy Spirit (I Thes. 5:19)
and lose salvation.
12) The readers of the Haggai prophecy announcements (this is #21) who
believed them would be the most disillusioned and the biggest
candidates to QUIT everything if God did not return His people to one House
this year! This would work directly against what God is doing—directly
opposite His overall purpose.
13) Further desolation (Hag. 1:11; 2:16-17) from God of the splinter “houses” would
practically wipe out the few remaining senior leaders in them. This includes
pastors and elders, all of whom are NEEDED TO CARRY OUT THE BIG WORK!
14) The onset of all future years would never come with clarity—with any
certainty! Would God leave thousands who are now aware of this prophecy in such
a condition? Hardly.
(Author: Well there ya go enablers. Dave cannot, no matter how hard he tries, "clarify" his mistaken ideas about himself or his views of scripture after being so off base theologically)
16) Similarly, as questions emerged throughout our pursuit of truth with the
many details of the prophecy, so many of these details kept coming clear as
direct answers to prayer. And these were often immediate.
17) Recall Haggai 1:13:
“Then spoke Haggai the Lord’s messenger
in the Lord’s message unto the people…”
Haggai is the messenger to God’s people, with what is an all-important
message from God. Would not God make clear in such a unique message He
describes as “the Lord’s message unto His people”
the correct date for action? What kind of message would it be if people did not
know WHEN TO CARRY IT OUT?
(Author's note: A false one perpetuated by enablers?)
18) Since the apostasy, God had not wanted the remnant back in His Church,
but now He does. He would first reveal the remnant to His leader,
then tell him how they would return, and finally that
He meant NOW. This was the order in which these things became apparent.
19) Imagine God not revealing the year the remnant is coming—but
only the day and month. Vast amounts of time would have been wasted by His
leaders studying and preparing for something that was not imminent. Would God
put His Church in such a position?
20) Of interest, God revealed to me during ELUL four years ago my
role as the modern Joshua.
(Authors note: And enablers allowed him to perpetuate this fantasy)
21) Also of interest, I and The Restored Church of God learned about the New
Testament remnant last ELUL (August). Let’s ask: Would timing of when
we were shown the prophecy not be tied to its unique timing of fulfillment
during the very next available ELUL?
22) We might ask: does the DEVIL know the prophecy is on? For those who
understand how the devil works—that he counterfeits EVERYTHING God does—a
variety of counterfeit theories have recently appeared about how God is
going to reunite His people. Should not the devil be expected to do this at the
time it would cause the most confusion? You will soon see that most of these
theories are coming from men standing on the wrong side of this prophecy.
23) With God’s people split up, it is now almost impossible to do a
powerful Work. (This might be the one area where the splinter leaders would
agree.) God’s Church is largely stymied in working with both brethren
and the world because of the confusion and deception from top leaders about
where God’s Church is, who has the truth, who is carrying on after Mr.
Armstrong, who is doing the true Work, etc. (Reread #22.) There is no other
way to proceed than for God to remove leaders who have lulled with
deceit many thousands who were blind (Rev. 3:17) to begin with.
Please stop enabling the delusional. The life you save may be your own.
Friday, March 31, 2017
Dr. James Tabor: " Paul and Jesus"
James Tabor
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
James D. Tabor (born 1946 in Texas) is a Professor in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, where he has taught since 1989 and served as Chair from 2004-2014. He previously held positions at Ambassador College (1968-70 while a student at Pepperdine University), the University of Notre Dame (1979–85), and the College of William and Mary (1985–89).
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The Apostle Paul has long been a controversial figure to modern Christians, but in recent years, his life and writings have spawned a plethora of books dedicated to reevaluating his role in the Christian faith. Tabor (Religious Studies/Univ. of North Carolina, Charlotte; The Jesus Dynasty: The Hidden History of Jesus, His Royal Family, and the Birth of Christianity, 2006, etc.) throws his hat into the ring, attempting to define Paul and his version of Jesus Christ against that of the original Jerusalem church, headed by James. The author stresses that the traditional view—that Paul was in harmony with the original apostles, ministering to the gentiles while they ministered to Jews—is a complete fabrication. Instead, he believes that Paul was in direct conflict with James, Peter and the rest of the original Christian church. This conflict was based not just on personality or approach; it spoke to Paul’s fundamental understanding of the identity of Jesus Christ, which differed from that taught by the original apostles. It is Paul’s understanding of Jesus, Tabor avers, that won the day, coming down to us in Scripture and doctrine. The author blames this historical legacy on a conscious effort by Paul’s followers to minimize the influence of James and the Jerusalem church, while promoting Paul’s theology. Books of the Bible such as Acts, he explains, were written specifically to present a Paul-focused version of emerging Christianity. Tabor tends to sensationalize tenets of Christian doctrine to highlight his view that Paul’s ideas were radical, while also pushing the conspiracy theories (e.g., “process of mythmaking”) about New Testament Scriptures that have been covered by such authors as Bart Ehrman.
His ultimate claim that Paul saw himself as a second Messiah seems like an inflated reading of the Pauline letters, and it will prove controversial with most Christians.
Ian Boyne: ARMSTRONGISM SUPERIOR TO ORTHODOX CHRISTIANITY?
I previously offered the chance for Ian to present his reason why Armstrongism is still superior to other churches. Let the conversation...or fireworks begin.
ARMSTRONGISM SUPERIOR TO ORTHODOX
CHRISTIANITY?
BY IAN BOYNE
Ian Boyne is a Church of God, International Pastor in Jamaica
As someone who has spent over four decades studying philosophy (particularly epistemology and philosophy of religion) theology and comparative religions, as well being as a specialist religion writer and broadcaster, I have long thought of issuing this challenge: That Armstrongism—minus its obscurantism and fanaticism—is actually far superior to all other brands of conservative Christianity, and that the most intellectually defensible alternative to Reformed Armstrongism is agnosticism or theistic existentialism.
As I have read the
serious scholarly journals in theology and philosophy and kept up with the
latest books in the fields, I have
become more convinced that far more credit should be given to the high school dropout
Herbert Armstrong than he actually gets.
Because there has been so much focus on the corruption,
authoritarianism, abuse and exploitation in the movement—and that is both
overwhelming and irrefutable---little time has been spent showing how much
better a religious system Armstrongism
is—absent its errors—than its alternatives.
As someone who
has experienced many “long, dark nights
of the soul” and who has had to wrestle intellectually and emotionally with major
philosophical and theological issues, I could never see myself rejecting certain cardinal tenets of Armstrongism
and going on to embrace orthodox Christianity, either of the Protestant or Catholic
version. (Though, ironically to some, I would find Catholicism more attractive than Evangelicalism.) As I
read certain ex-Armstrongites attacking
the movement (and I have every book ever
published on the movement and have read every Ambassador Report), it has struck
me again that many persons who are
celebrating their release from “the bondage of Armstrongism” have really bought
into inferior versions of revealed religion without realizing it.
For example, I could
never, like some who have gone back to orthodox Christianity, go back to the barbaric and repulsive belief
that a loving God would create a hell to burn people for all eternity—most of
whom never even had an opportunity to learn about him. Notice how abominable
this doctrine---strongly rejected by Armstrong—really is. The billions of persons in communist China, Hindu
India and those under the former Iron Curtain who, through no fault of their own were born
in the “wrong country”, have to spend an eternity in hell for the Bible says
“there is in other name under heaven whereby men must be saved except the name
of Jesus”.
Yet this God is too
impotent to get His Gospel across to people. Not to mention the obnoxious Calvinist belief that God actually
decreed, for His own glory and in His
sovereignty, that some would be lost and
burn forever in hell. The atheists have developed a brilliant Argument From
Non-Belief to counter this horrendous “Christian” doctrine of people’s being
lost through own ignorance and non-belief. (See especially Theodore
Drange’s brilliant book, Non-Belief and Evil)
Some, struck with the incongruity of the loving God (as
portrayed in the Bible) casting ignorant
people in Hell for all eternity come up with the view that God will judge people by the sincerity
of their hearts and their good works and let the good ones into the kingdom.
But wait: Isn’t Sola
Fide (faith alone) and Sola Gratia
(grace alone) at the heart of the Protestant doctrine of justification by faith? Then how can God look
at how well the Buddhist, Hindu and Sufi lived and let them into Heaven based
on their works when works are supposed to have nothing to do
with right standing?
Evangelicalism, which some ex-Armstrongites like Martha and the Bereans
website friends have bought into, can’t match the
philosophical and theological force of the Armstrongite teaching that a good,
loving and just God will find a way for every single human being to come to a
knowledge of the truth—including the mentally retarded, the mentally ill as well the sincere atheists and agnostics who
did not have enough evidence to believe.
Even the apostate WCG
cannot let go of this refreshing teaching of Herbert Armstrong. Significantly,
Armstrongism is the only movement which
says it alone is right and yet which opens the
door for those who disagree to be saved eventually. This is a most compassionate view which should promote
tolerance.
Herbert Armstrong, contrary to his Evangelical critics,
actually did more to promote the
exclusivity of Christianity and Christ by stating that good Buddhists, good
Muslims, good Hindus, good Bahais etc.
would not be saved in their ignorance just because they were not wicked like Hitler; but would get their chance to learn the one truth and make a
personal confession of Christ (See
Romans 10).
Evangelicals, Church of God 7th Day and Seventh-Day Adventists have more than one
way of salvation—one for those who heard and rejected Christ and another for
the millions who died without hearing, leaving God no option but to find a way to get them to His Kingdom without
their having personally accepted Christ.
So if he could do that for
so many “good heathens”, why allow so much evil in the world ostensibly
to accommodate free will ,which He then takes away by putting people in Heaven who never really made that personal
choice? There is not enough space to point out the serious moral and theological problems
which orthodox Christianity poses. It is a pity that so many are so emotionally
scarred and abused that they might not have the
intellectual energy—or interest—to look at the strengths in the theology
of Armstrongism.
I admit I am deeply
embarrassed, even angered, as a thinking
Armstrongite (an oxymoron?) to read the nonsense taught by the lunatic
fringe in the movement (In fact, they are
so many they might even be the mainstream!)
I am happy for the CGI, to which I belong, which retains the finest teachings of Herbert
Armstrong without the dross and the excesses. I am NOT saying it is the only
true church! For all GTA’s moral weaknesses and reprehensible personal
behaviour, he reformed a system without throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Ron Dart’s work in the CGI has also been
invaluable in preserving an intellectually respectable brand of Armstrongism.
The atrocious doctrine of an ever-burning hell; the view that
billions of sincere people will be lost simply because they never knew about
Christ; the severing of Christianity from its Hebraic roots and the Hellenisation
of Christianity; the de-emphasis on the
eschatological Kingdom of God and
the profound truth of the eventual
deification of humans are some of the major reasons I could not leave
Armstrongism for orthodox Christianity. Agnosticism or theistic Existentialism
is a far better option to me. The God of
Evangelicalism, Adventism and orthodox Christianity is not worthy to be
worshipped. Herbert Armstrong had that right.

Host of the Agency’s flagship interview programme, Issues and Answers, Mr. Boyne furthers the public education thrust of the JIS through his incisive range of questions which elucidate the Government’s response to the national issues of the day.
Mr. Boyne has had a long career with the JIS as he first joined the entity when it was known as the Agency for Public Information (API) in 1976 as feature writer and television broadcaster. In 1983 he became the Press Secretary/Speech Writer to the then Minister of Industry and Commerce, Douglas Vaz and from then to 2002 worked with every Minister of Industry under successive administrations as Speech Writer/Public Relations Consultant after which he rejoined the JIS in 2002.
In the media fraternity, he is regarded as a veteran journalist who entered the profession in 1975. Outside of the JIS, he is the host of the 26 year old TVJ programme Profile, the host of Religious Hardtalk and a columnist for the Sunday Gleaner.
In 2009, the Government of Jamaica recognized his contribution to journalism with the Commander of the Order of Distinction (CD).
Mr. Boyne is a Minister of Religion and the author of “Ideas Matter: Journey into the Mind of a Veteran Journalist.
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