LCG: Why are its leaders and members so contentious, haughty, connceited, and not of the same mind?

 

Another day in COGland and we find its members once again being told they can't do anything right. All the things Winnail accuses members of are exactly what the leadership did when they rebelled against the Mother church and against the Global Church of God. Haughtiness, ambition, power, and the contentious attitudes of its leadership still prevent the church from being of one mind.

Keys for Working Together: Jesus referred to His disciples as His “friends” and He encouraged them to “love one another” (John 15:12–17). The Apostle Paul referred to those who assisted him in the ministry as “my fellow workers” (Romans 16:3). He also referred to members of God’s Church as “God’s fellow workers” (1 Corinthians 3:9), and “workers together with Him” (2 Corinthians 6:1). These are exciting opportunities that carry an important responsibility. The Scriptures give us guidelines about how to work together. We are urged not to let contentions divide us, but to “be perfectly joined together in the same mind” (1 Corinthians 1:10–13). We are also advised to avoid being haughty and conceited or ambitious for a position, but to be humble and strive to work together peacefully (Romans 12:16–18). James said we can avoid divisions by being gentle, teachable, and easily entreated (James 3:13–18). As we learn to “love one another” and treat each other as “friends” we will be more effective “fellow workers” for the Kingdom of God.
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail

Crackpot Prophet Says It Is Not Safe To Reject A True Prophet Of God And Those That Do So Are Lazy

  

The world's GREATEST and most ACCURATE prophet to ever self-appoint himself in the history of humanity had a tizzy fit today over Gerald Flurry's latest crap on Donald Trump. Flurry has for years been making all kinds of predictions about Trump that have never come to pass. In like manner, so as has our most highly favored second son of God, the Great Bwana of Africa and 100 occasional Caucasians, who is destined to reign on the right-hand side of Christ at some future date. Both have ended up being certified liars.

After blabbering for quite some time, the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel had this to say for all of you pathetic losers who still  REFUSE to acknowledge him as a real true prophet of God. Bad Laodiceans! Bad LAZY Laodiceans! Bad! Bad! Bad!

"Now, most end-time Christians do not believe that they are lazy, but wise."

Sitting in his damp musty office while still playing the suffering martyr for the truth, the Great Bwana Bob shows his anger once again:

While Christians should heed true prophets and not despise prophecies (1 Thessalonians 5:20, PCG’s Gerald Flurry has again been proven to have spoken presumptuously. 

 

He and PCG remain wrong in their view of Amos 7 and many other matters. 

 

Those who have enough of “the love of the truth” (2 Thessalonians 2:10) should clearly be able to see that Gerald Flurry is NOT God’s prophet, but a false one. 

 

People associated with PCG should believe the Bible about false prophets as Gerald Flurry has clearly made false predictions. 

 

And even if Donald Trump becomes USA president again, Gerald Flurry has been proven false about his predictions about Amos 7. 

 

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT! 

 

The existence of false prophets does NOT excuse not supporting a real one. 

 

Consider that the Book of Proverbs warns:

16 The lazy man is wiser in his own eyes Than seven men who can answer sensibly. (Proverbs 26:16) 

 

Now, most end time Christians do not believe that they are lazy, but wise. 

 

Yet, they overlook evidence because they are uncomfortable with the idea that there could now be a prophet that they should heed. 

 

It is NOT safer to reject a true prophet because there are many false ones.

Oh, Great Bwana Bob Mzungu - you are NOT a true prophet of God. You have never been one and never will be one. You are as big of a liar as Gerald Flurry is.

Tammy Tkach Interview Not Going Down Well With Ex-Members

Certain ex-WCG Facebook pages have been really down on a video made by The Network of Evangelical Women in Ministry - NEWIM that they posted a year ago on their site where they interviewed TammyTkach.

What really set people off were the comments about church finances and not knowing it was a cult:

Some comments from Facebook:

"I never seen or heard her before but still had to stop it."

"How could you not know it was a cult!"

"she knew. She benefitted."

"Hilarious that she says at the beginning that they were considered a cult......so she KNEW what she was in. 

At 16:01 she said Joe Jr says he doesn't condemn him (HWA) and that he was sincere?!

Yeah, ruining people's lives is sincere 

.....but what would he know, we know good and well that he and his family didn't live like most of us so it didn't effect him."

In reference that it was a cult:

"I think the bigger reason is that when inside one we rarely see it as is. Brain washing. Dulling down of independent thinking and risk of losing everything (my entire family were members) will keep a person from even looking to see if something is off"

 "i agree... my whole family was also in it and I was also born into it."

Where the situation baffles me is, at what point does an individual :

-First : decide to adhere to such an organization.

-Second : realize the unorthodox, questionable, illogical teachings; 

YET, decides to stay.

-Third : Even after that realization, agrees to give a huge part of their revenue to said organization.

-Fourth: Gives up on all logical reasonable thinking; totally accepting to be subjugated by the cult leader.

And

I would add a last one :

Fifth : Reproduce within the cult and teach the newborn human baby totally incoherent, false and absurd information about life and it's meaning.

""Joe jr says he doesn't condems (HWA) and that he was sincere"??!!

Can you believe that LIE?

What about the myriad of accusations of fraud and sexual misconducts, assaults and exploitation?

Was he sincere about those accusations also?"

What do you think?

After 29 Years UCG Says: "Now we must get to work."

 

UCG/Rick Shabi sent out its Home Office update on February 22 and it was a sight to behold. For 29 years now they have been wandering around trying to figure out their purpose. They have finally decided what they need to do.

Let me address just a few of those areas as we begin to focus with a greater sense of urgency. Jesus Christ is the head of His Church, and we look to Him to guide and direct what we do. It must be done His way, or it will not bear fruit. God has provided the physical resources—both monetary and human—to do the work. Now we must get to work. 

 

Christ commissioned His Church to “preach the gospel in all nations, to make disciples, and to teach them to observe all things He commanded” (Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20). This is a key part of the operation plan that we, as Church administration, will be presenting to the Council of Elders at their meetings here at the home office next week. We have begun implementing this through our more extensive use of direct, clear messages to the world available now on YouTube.

Apparently, they never thought to consider their international regions and the potential they had there. 29 years of neglect and now they are waking up. Note, it doesn't mean they will do much but they are "endeavoring" to understand. WTH? They would have had a better return on their money in the Latin American countries and in Africa over how much they have wasted in the United States and Canada with their messages that have had minimal impact.

Following the principle in 1 Corinthians 9:19-23, we are endeavoring to learn and understand more about our international regions so the gospel can be preached in them more effectively and in a manner and form that is best suited to be heard and received. You can help us with this, and we can help provide content and materials to assist in the preaching of the gospel in your area.

Now, the plan is to "cry aloud and spare not", though if they are going to accuse those around them of their sins they need to clean their own house first. Plus, it appears that UCG members are getting sick of hearing about all the end-time scenario crap they have been subjected to for decades.

In Isaiah 58:1, God commissioned us to “cry aloud, spare not, and show My people and the house of Jacob their sins.” Even those not a part of the Church are beginning to loudly proclaim their doubts about the future of the world. It is time, and we will “cry aloud” with a bold, clear and direct message to the house of Jacob (and the world) of the sins and heinousness of the actions and direction of this world, reminding them that repentance is necessary for salvation and that Jesus Christ will return to “save” mankind from the utter destruction he would inflict upon himself. We will continue to do this as God leads and provides the direction and message He wants delivered.

Our Great Bwana is going to beg to differ. He and he alone is doing that.  

Not only will they be crying aloud, but they will be unified! Woo Hoo!

One more thing that needs to be mentioned as we remember God’s will and actively begin to practice it in our lives, is this: Jesus Christ, before He was crucified, prayed in John 17 for His people to become “one” with each other and with Him and the Father. In Ephesians 4 we are admonished to “keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace”

With their newfound focus on unity, great things are in store. Unity has never really been their focus when they rebelled from the Worldwide Church of God, when David Hulme split off, and when COGWA split off. But, heck! It looks good in print. 

Passover is quickly approaching and their previous sins over the last year will be forgiven and they can start anew.

Indeed, when we take of the bread that symbolizes Christ’s body at Passover, we are reminded that it is the koinonia (fellowship, partnership) of the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 10:16). It pictures unity, being at one with each other and learning and practicing that “oneness” that we must have and develop as God’s people. 

Word has been circulating for a while that there is more unrest in the UCG ranks. I guess they are trying to nip it in the bud with this: 

To achieve that, humility is required. We must put aside our thoughts, our pet ideas, learn how to reconcile with each other, and strive to work together as one under Christ, following His lead and supporting the direction of His Church. That includes “speaking the same thing” (1 Corinthians 1:10) as we have been focusing on with the ministry this year and “advancing His mission” as has also been stressed. 

 

It is time for us individually and collectively to focus on what God wants, to yield to Him, and to move forward in becoming the people and Church God would have us be.