Dave Pack Gloats That Virtually ALL Former and Splinter COG members Will Join His Group Within 1-2 Years!

After a long dry spell the apostle Dave is back gloating about what a magnificent Church he leads.  It has been a great year for the TRUE Christians in the RCG who God favors highly while punishing the pagan filth around the rest of the world. RCG members are set apart from the evil hitting the world right now because they are soooooooooooooooo special.  The called out ones, the chosen few, the elite, the future rulers of space worlds and gods to be.

The year 2012 is now behind us. What a wonderful year it was for God’s Church. Sadly, it was the worst year on record for all nations of Earth. The masses are frightened as never before about what lies in store for the world—and themselves. Sadly, few understand and almost no one is preparing for the “snare” that Jesus Christ warned of in Luke 21:35 that will “come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.” The result will be that few will “escape all these things” (vs. 36) that Jesus described. Millions in the world, but also many of God’s people, think they are “spiritually prepared,” yet will soon wish they had been more careful—more thoughtful—about their spiritual condition.

All of those foolish COG groups that split off and formed irrelevant groups like United Church of God, Living Church of God and Philadelphia Church of God have absolutely NO fruit to show for their apostasy.  Only Dave has had mind numbing growth unparalleled in the COG universe!

The organizations (small, medium and large) that formed from the Worldwide Church of God in the wake of the apostasy grew very little or in most cases not at all in 2012! In fact many, or even most, declined in size, and in virtually all well-established categories of measuring fruit. Ironically, these organizations each month post their Member Letters before the whole world on their websites in hopes that such “trolling” for members will yield growth. (Why else would one address a letter to one set of people and then send it to everyone else?) But, with God having supplied no fruit to back up their organizations—since He is not leading them—the growth never comes. How is it that they are not embarrassed—ashamed—to post such hollow letters?

I  am, sure Dave is cowering in his shoes right now with the prospect of prophet Thiel's new group. Whats with the "trolling" accusation? That is certainly rich coming from a church that has bragged about the ministers and members they have stolen from UCG and others recently.

But we DO have the fruit—TREMENDOUS fruit!—that the other organizations lack. This is because we also DO have God’s leadership, having Christ as the Head of the Church. Hence the reason for only ONE letter annually like this one written to the splinters—not also written to members and co-workers! Our single goal is to show the fruit of God’s Spirit and leadership at work here to those who care—for those who want to know what they are missing.

Dave stupidly feels that there are thousands and thousands of confused COG members out there looking for a new group to go to.  Never fear, Dave is here!  Dave is ready to welcome all of the disillusioned into his group with open offering envelopes waiting.

Today, literally thousands of former WCG members are wondering where to attend—what to do. While some no longer care about the doctrines, traditions, standards—and fruit—of an organization, many still do. These brethren would be carefully examining available options, looking for what they were taught and once enjoyed under Mr. Armstrong’s leadership of the Church. They know these things are visible only to those looking for them! Understanding Christ is not divided, and that all who are led by God’s Spirit will ultimately walk in truth, and “speak the same thing” (I Cor. 1:10, 13), they become candidates to find the one place where Jesus Christ is truly the Head of His unified Church and Body.

The delusional idiot then goes on to quote all kinds of statistics on his amazing cult.  Then he gets into the new cable stations he will soon be broadcasting on. He naively assumes that his viewing audience is going to increase by the millions  because of the number of subscribers. The multiple missions of viewers he is claiming as his own will NEVER watch his idiotic program!

Looking ahead in 2013, an immensely powerful worldwide expansion of The World to Come approaches! In fact, here comes TREMENDOUS NEWS! We are finalizing plans to be on two—TWO!—more television networks: (1) The Word Network—and on January 24!!!—with satellite broadcasting coverage in well over 200 countries and territories, including all of North and Central America, the Caribbean, Europe, Africa, Australia, the Middle East and all of Asia. (2) Grace TV—set to begin February 17—which reaches over 70% of all Canadian households! This network is Canada’s largest provider of primetime Christian programming, and it will be our first Sunday morning primetime slot for The World to Come.

According to a 2010 report by IDATE Consulting & Research, there will be an estimated 1.2 billion households with at least one television around the globe in 2013. In the U.S. alone, The Word Network will reach 86 million of 114 million TV homes via cable and DIRECTV (this is in addition to our current ION coverage). Latin America has a potential 132.8 million TV households. Europe has 260.9 million. There are another 10.7 million in South Africa. Australia has 120 million, with the rest of Asia having another 565.7 million TV households. Although everyone with a television does not have satellite reception, these figures speak volumes as to the potential magnitude of this new worldwide network. To maximize impact, we chose an overnight time slot in the U.S., which airs during the morning hours in Europe and South Africa, and through the prime evening hours across Australia and the Far East.

Dave then moves on to talk about dramatic "healings" happening in his group.  It is quit obvious reading these that there are no healings going on in any of the splinter groups.  That is the impression Dave is trying to get across.

He has had blind people given sight, wheelchair bound people walking again.  These pale in comparison to a church member who was in a head on collision that did not injure them because the van "passed through" their vehicle.

While carpooling home from services two members were miraculously protected. A van suddenly appeared directly behind them, traveling at such a high rate of speed that a collision was unavoidable. As the van made contact with their rear bumper, instead of hearing a loud crash, they heard what they described as a “swoosh.” The van had passed through their car, appearing immediately in front of them! The van continued speeding down the road and then exited the highway, leaving the two ladies unharmed and the vehicle completely unscratched. On a personal note, this event mirrors exactly miracles both Mr. Dale Schurter and I have experienced and reported to the Church.

Then to top it off Dave brags that he was able to turn a tornado away from the entire city of Wadsworth so that it went on to kill and damage others. He also claims to have the power to have turned Hurricane Sandy by 90 degrees so that it would not make its way into Wadsworth!  When pigs fly!

Finally, at Headquarters we often read of God protecting His people around the world from storms, wildfires, flooding, hurricanes and other weather disasters, but in the relatively peaceful area of northeast Ohio, there seemed not to be the same need for intervention. Tuesday, July 3, was an exception. Just after 11:00 a.m. the National Weather Service issued a severe thunderstorm warning for Wadsworth and surrounding areas. Doppler radar showed a giant storm cell capable of producing a tornado heading directly toward the city from the northwest. Minutes later it became more serious when an official tornado warning was given, meaning a tornado in the area was visible on radar—and only 10 miles from Headquarters and the building project, moving straight toward us. All HQ employees moved to the basement as the storm continued on its projected path. There, I asked for God’s protection over His people through the dangerous storm, and that He would protect the present Headquarters building and the site of the future campus, acknowledging that it is God whom we ultimately rely on for protection. It soon became evident that God had at that moment intervened. Right after the prayer, the HQ staff saw that the storm (via radar online) had dramatically changed direction—during the prayer!—from its southeasterly course to nearly due south, and then later turned again to continue moving easterly to the south of Wadsworth. The city was entirely untouched by the tornado! We received only a little rain. Two staff members (who were off-site meeting with people involved in the construction project) actually witnessed the tornado from the west side of town as it turned south to go under the city. Of course, everyone was tremendously inspired to see God’s clear hand of intervention for His people and Work. It was truly faith-building. So was watching Hurricane Sandy suddenly turn 90 degrees north while still in Pennsylvania without which turn there would have been enormous damage to our new building. This is because the storm was coming from the east where the installed glass was not ready for it on the building’s west side.

Yes sir!  God is Only on Dave's side.  Those pussy evangelists in Edmond and Charlotte cannot produce such miracles as Big Dave can!  Big Dave can also wrestle with demons and cast them out too!

None of this speaks to regular dramatic healings, demons cast out, many miracles, open doors, blessings and incredible GROWTH in all categories.

Dave then goes on to claim his church within the next 1-2 years will be the largest and most effective church of God ever.  Thousands upon thousands of former member will be returning to it.  Eventually every single COG member who still has God's spirit in them will be leaving their group and coming to Dave's. 

An unbelievably powerful Work is underway in The Restored Church of God. This is because we did not break the grand pattern set by Mr. Armstrong—any of it! It is because Jesus Christ actually does HEAD this Church. In one to two years maximum, the profile of God’s Church and true Work on Earth will be beyond imagination. It will take your breath and leave your ears ringing. The good news is that more ministers and members are leaving ALL of the splinters to return to God’s one Church. Eventually ALL with God’s Spirit—every single person—will return to His Church. To see more and more people waking up to the false doctrine, wrong standards, poor fruits and continually worsening condition of their organizations has been most encouraging. Many thousands will join us! (In fact, prophecy reveals this.) This means our power, impact and growth will be further affected upward. We expect to be the largest presence—the loudest voice!—in religious television in the world some time in 2014. And this will be backed up by the largest amount of literature ever compiled by any single organization on the face of the earth.

You can read the entire myth here:  The Restored Church of God: Much Fruit—Proof God Leads This Church!

Ron Weinerdude Weinland: Babies Conceived Now Will Be Born After Christ Returns in May 2013

I have to hand it to Mike over at Don't Drink the Flavor Aid Served By False Prophets for his patience in sitting down and listening to the convicted felon Ron Wienland's sermon each week.  Listening to 2 hours of mindless stupidity has to be taxing on the brain.

Mike posted today about Weinerdudes sermon this past Saturday.  The one thing that stood out was his comment about women in his cult delaying having babies.

Many PKG women have continually deferred having children since the end-time has been imminent for several years now.  Ron read an email he composed on the topic.  Basically, it’s between the husband and wife and God, and other members are not to judge them for doing it.  

 Then Weinerdude opens his mouth and makes a totally absurd comment:

Ron suggested that any child conceived now would be born after Christ returns in May.

How can supposedly relatively sane people sit there and listen to this kind of idiotic preaching?

E.W.King: Babies Start Following Satan As Soon As They Are Born

It has always been a long held belief in Armstrongism that babies start being influenced by Satan the second they take their first breath.  They learn greed and are selfish.  They take and never give. They manipulate and challenge. Armstrongism continues to think this to this day that all babies are demon possessed.

E.W. King, carries on this tradition too.

So “sin” is actions and deeds contrary to God’s law. We must understand that God’s law is “spiritual”, which is to say that it transcends the normal way the material mind functions. When a child is born into this fallen world he begins to “hear” the broadcasts which come from Satan. Like a radio station the fallen nature of Satan is broadcasted throughout this planet and all people [accept true Christians] are tuned into this channel. The child hears this broadcast like a loud horn because the child sees the way that fallen adults act; the child hears the corruption which comes from the mouths of all people around him. The child begins to mimic the thoughts and actions of corrupt mankind.

Apparently children of Church of God members are innocent and pure compared to the children of the pagan filth out in the world.  We all know that to be a fact!  Especially those that have been around evangelist and ministers kids!

Philadelphia Church of God: Sandy Hook Killings and the Two Trees

from The Manga Bible

They're baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Just when you though your ears never had to hear the words, "the two trees" again, along comes the Philadelphia Church of God to explain away the Sandy Hook murders with the "two trees" of Herbert Armstrong's blaring fame.

I can't tell you how many years we had to sit there and listen to HWA yell and pound the podium about the two trees.  Week after week, month after month.  No Jesus preached, but there was enough info on the two trees that you could become a dendrologist.

Never to let a tragedy to go to waste, Gerald Flurry's cult jumps into the arena hyperventilating that they have the "truth" of the matter.

The Sandy Hook Tragedy - A Lesson About The Two Trees

The article starts out:

In December, the funerals of 20 young children took place in Newtown, Conn. Many seek closure to the tragedy, but our nation continues to be mired in questions about the cause of the Sandy Hook shooting. How could this massacre happen? Gun laws, mental health care, and our violent culture are all topics being bantered about as problems and solutions to what happened in Newtown.

Then the Flurry cult claims to have the answer to the reason.  Even though it is asked as a question, here is specifically why it happened according to PCG:

Could the monstrous actions of a deranged 20-year-old have anything to do with his family environment? How strong was Adam Lanza’s relationship with his father? What impact did the fracturing relationship and divorce of his father and mother have?

No one answers these questions. Even the experts don’t know the cause. Why can’t we find the answers to keep our marriages and families united? Why don’t we know how to raise happy, caring, responsible children? How have we produced children who murder women and six-year-olds en masse?

PCG states above the reasons it happened because only THEY know the reasons.  The article goes on to worship Gerald Flurry's awesome knowledge:

In a timely article about the two trees in Genesis, Gerald Flurry shows us why we suffer such troubles today: “Our knowledge is not solving our problems. In fact, as our knowledge increases, so do our problems. Clearly, something is missing in our knowledge. The reason we cannot gain ground on these civilization-destroying troubles is that we fail to confront their real cause. That cause is rooted in the very foundation of our civilization—a foundation well-documented in history.”

 The knowledge of the two trees teach you this, according to Flurry and his cult:

If you wonder which choice Adam and Eve made, just look at what has happened. Their firstborn son had no access to guns or violent entertainment. He didn’t need mental healthcare. Genesis 4:6-8 show what a strong influence the tree of the knowledge of good and evil had on the world’s first son. Even though the Creator Himself tried to work with Cain, he became a murderer and a liar. He followed the same way of life as his parents—and mankind has done the same ever since.

The choice of our first parents has influenced every aspect of society. It affects our families and children most of all, the basis of society. We witness the suffering daily. Losing 20 children is heartrending, but think about the millions of unborn children who lose their lives each year through abortion, the millions of children growing up in broken homes, the neglect, the lack of proper education, instruction and love that would help our children develop stable, responsible and fulfilling lives. It is a vicious cycle—and, as God warned Adam and Eve, it ends in death.

Only those who understand the "two trees" and only then a "select few" have any hope.  Of course if you are part of the PCG you salvation is assured since it is the ONLY true church of God left on the face of the earth.  Sorry Bob Thiel but you are toast too!

The tree of life is available to the select few whom God works with today. Individually, those whom He calls, can make the right choice now. God shares with them His Holy Spirit and the understanding and power needed to change lives. But soon the tree of life will be available for everyone!

Since Flurry and his cult do know know Jesus Christ or the new covenant they do not realize that the "tree of life" has already been made manifest.  All of this disgusting blabbering by PCG to use a national tragedy as a chance to promote corrupt man made teachings  truly is disgusting.

Bob Thiel: Is He Really Following In The Footsteps of Polycarp?

Poor Bob Thiel.  He is in such a conundrum right now. He is talking today about the apostolic secession of the leadership of the Church of God and how the men in church through the centuries were ordained and carried on with the "truth."  It seems to be really important to prophet Thiel that this link back to the apostles is noted. The reason being is that prophet Thiel claims he is now the only one carrying the mantle for the 1st century Christianity he claims is valid.

He starts his daily missal stating that he had to cease affiliation with the Living Church of God, of which, he will not name.  How stupid is that?

As most readers now know, it became necessary for me to cease my affiliation with a group based out of North Carolina and form the Continuing Church of God.

 He then tries to defend the silly name he called his personality cult.

So, since the word “continuing” is part of the title, the question to be briefly addressed today is:  Continue what?

First, it needs to be understood that according to Jesus, the church itself would continue and the gates of Hades (death) would not prevail against it (Matthew 16:18).

The prophet uses Hebrews as the scriptural justification for the name of his personality cult:

Let us look at what Jesus and the Apostle Paul taught on this matter:

22 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. 23 For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes (Matthew 10:22-23).

14 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come (Hebrews 13:14).

Since Christians have no continuing city, it is the Church of God, not some city such as Rome or Alexandria that was supposed to continue to lead Christ’s church.

Prophet Thiel traces the lineage of his new personality cult down through the ages to Polycarp.  The main problem with this is that false prophet Thiel is NOT ordained and cannot be the legitimate heir to the legacy of Polycarp.

Notice that Irenaeus is claiming that Polycarp was appointed bishop (pastor/overseer) of the Church in Smyrna by the apostles in Asia (which would most likely have been John and Philip and perhaps some others) and that Polycarp continued the faith and practices of the original apostles. Notice that Irenaeus is claiming that there was a list of men who have succeeded Polycarp until the late 2nd century and that they held to the teaching of the apostles. Thus the only universally accepted apostle to “bishop” transfer of leadership for the 1st and 2nd centuries that continued until at least the end of the 2nd century was through Polycarp of Smyrna 

Prophet Thiel claims his small personality cults doctrines are exactly like Polycarp's in order to give his little group legitimacy:

So, Polycarp realized that the true church was called the Church of God and that he placed a high priority on the scriptures and the doctrines in them, including the commandments and love.

This is what we in the Continuing Church of God also are striving to do.

Now, here are some of the beliefs that Polycarp and others in the early Church of God held to that we in the Continuing Church of God also hold to. (which I am not listing)

 Prophet Thiel's arrogance continues to grow stronger.  He and his small personality cult are now the only ones that best represent the true remnant.

We in the Continuing Church of God are striving to best represent the most faithful remnant  of the original Church of God that began on Pentecost in Acts 2 (c. 31 A.D.) and we believe and teach the doctrines of the original apostolic and faithful post-apostolic Church of God, and in particular, the Philadelphia-era of the Church of God.

There is nothing original, apostolic or Christan about false prophet Thiel's personality cult.  A personality cult is exactly all his group is.  The few people that have agreed to follow him are obviously weak in their faith, so much so, that they still need a "strong figure" tell them what to believe.  These people have been through at least 3 splinterings to reach Thiel's group (which makes 4).  Worldwide to Global, then Global to Living, then Living to Continuing.  Whats going to happen in 4-5 years when someone stronger than Thiel comes along and discredits hm?  Will group 5 then start?  Then how long till splinter group 6?  Joining the Church of God 7th Day makes far better sense than joining up in another impotent little personality cult.