Tuesday, June 2, 2026

The Damning Legacy of COG Prophecy Addicts. God Called Them False Prophets — Why Are You Still Sending Them Tithes?



Doug Winnail is back with another heartfelt plea about how crucial Bible prophecy is to “the Church” and their earth-shattering message to the world. How touching. The only teensy problem? Not one single prophecy from Rod Meredith, Gerald Weston, Herbert Armstrong, or their endless parade of spiritual heirs has ever come true. Not. One.

They rifle through Scripture like it’s a prophetic buffet, cherry-picking verses backward to retrofit whatever crisis is trending this week. The golden oldie “Brethren, we have less than five years left!” has been recycled longer than some of these “leaders” have been alive. Five years became ten, twenty, thirty… and now we’re approaching a full century of Herbert W. Armstrong’s prophetic dumpster fire. His predictions didn’t just fail—they failed spectacularly, publicly, and repeatedly, littering church history like embarrassing roadside wreckage.

And the current crop of COG prophecy addicts? They’re carrying the torch with pride:
  • Bob Thiel, whose “dreams” apparently carry more weight than actual Scripture. 
  • Gerald Flurry, still waiting for his magical rock to pulverize the nations while he plays king in his Edmond compound. 
  • Ron Weinland, who set multiple return-of-Christ dates, missed every one. He just shrugged and bought his wife some more diamonds. 
  • Dave Pack, the undisputed champion of “Any Day Now… Again!”—a man who’s declared the end so often he makes doomsday preppers look patient.
And dozens more just like them, each with their own “special understanding,” urgent timeline, and loyal followers who apparently skipped Bible class.

Because here’s what Deuteronomy 18:20-22 actually says (you know, that pesky part they always forget):

But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak… if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

One strike and you’re out. No mulligans. No, “we were mostly right on the general idea.” No, “just wait a little longer, brethren.” God doesn’t grade on a curve for false prophets—He calls them liars. Yet these men have built entire organizations, bank accounts, and egos on a mountain of failed dates while daring to call themselves God’s true servants.

Jesus warned about exactly this in Matthew 24:11 — “Many false prophets will arise and mislead many.” And in Matthew 7:15-20, He said you’d know them by their fruits. Spoiler: endless broken prophecies aren’t exactly “good fruit.”But sure, Doug. Tell us again how Satan is deceiving people into discounting prophecy. The far bigger joke is how he’s got an army of self-appointed watchmen (Ezekiel 3 and 33 get thrown around a lot) who are themselves the very false prophets the Bible repeatedly condemns (see also Jeremiah 23:16-32 and Ezekiel 13).

And so the tragic farce rolls on.

Decade after decade, these self-proclaimed prophets have peddled their doomsday dreams like carnival barkers, only to watch their bold predictions collapse in humiliating silence. Families have been torn apart, savings drained, lives put on perpetual hold—all for the sake of a fantasy that never arrives. Yet instead of repentance, we get fresh revisions, new “urgent” updates, and ever-more-desperate pleas for more money, while there’s still time.”The trail of wreckage stretches back nearly a century: from Armstrong’s Germany-will-rule-Europe-and-invade-America fiascoes to the modern circus of Thiel-Flurry-Weinland-Pack and company. Each one a walking, talking violation of Deuteronomy 18, each one still collecting tithes and issuing edicts as if God Himself had not already exposed them.

How much longer will people keep following these spiritual frauds? When will they finally open their Bibles, read the clear warnings, and walk away from the con?

The real Jesus never built His ministry on a never-ending countdown clock. He called people to repentance, faith, and genuine fruit—not to a lifetime of chasing vindication through failed headlines. Maybe, just maybe, it’s time to stop obsessing over the next rewritten prophecy and start following the One these men claim to represent… before another generation wastes its life on lies dressed up as “God’s Work.”

Have a truly profitable Sabbath, brethren. Spend it on actual Scripture instead of the latest prophetic fever dream. Your future self—and your bank account—will thank you.


The Importance of Prophecy: Jesus told His disciples to stay alert and watch for the fulfillment of Bible prophecies that will mark the approaching end of this age (Matthew 24:42–44; Mark 13:32–37; Luke 21:34–36). Jesus also warned, in the parable of the foolish virgins, that many will be caught unprepared by the sudden surge of events that will precede His return (Matthew 25:1–13). God has given His Church “a more sure word of prophecy” (2 Peter 1:19, King James Version) so we can warn the Israelite nations and the world of the prophetic significance of world events. It is an awesome responsibility to be commissioned as a watchman (Ezekiel 3:16–21; 33:1–11). It is also sobering to see that Satan has deceived the world and many in the Church to discount the importance of prophecy. We must never take Bible prophecy and our commission lightly.

Have a profitable Sabbath,

Douglas S. Winnail

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

No Winnail,
Peter and the apostles had the “more sure word of prophecy!” Not you all within Armstrongism. Not a sure word of prophecy, when your leader was dead wrong on 1975 and his next leader was on “the next five to 10 years.”

1 Humility
2 Men in the bible get Visions and Dreams
3 They address worldly leaders
4 They are persecuted
5 They have a third heaven correspondence angel/Lord.

https://youtu.be/nXU5i3_N0VY


https://youtu.be/wd2rdbmdEbM

Anonymous said...

My goodness, reading the letter by Douglas Winnail to the brethren leaves me breathless. With each letter sent out, there must be a corresponding drop in membership numbers each time. Why are they still sending in tithes for this regurgitated bs, to an organisation that is dying, to an organisation that is demonstratingly theologically deeply flawed (BI bs for example), could go on…..makes one want to hit the bottle lol. That said I do hope that many within will come to know the incredible liberty we have in Christ Jesus and embrace Him, without the luggage that comes from this toxic Armstrong environment. My two cents worth, cheers folks.

Anonymous said...

But, but, but Doug is indeed watching........the income level.....Herbie"s "1st" tithe (not Biblical), and "3rd" tithe.......no Doug, it's 3rd year.........

Anonymous said...

There's just one problem. There's a huge difference between how Joe Bathrobe got the news back during the first century, and the way we are constantly bombarded with it from all corners, often accompanied by the unwanted passenger known as the agenda, now in 2026. There are so many existential threats these days that EVERYTHING makes it appear as if the end is imminent! For all the emphasis on prophecy, it has not proven to be more effective than horiscopes (at least they say "for entertainment only"), numerology, tarot card reading, or you local psychic (well, alleged psychic, anyway).

It would not be quite so bad, these self-important little men running around as self-ordained prophets, if they didn't use their false prophecies in a fear mongering way, to manipulate your behavior. Apparently, that is the only way such people of limited intelligence can find to persuade you to become their disciples.

You'd think that when they read the passage in Deuteronomy, they'd' realize that we're not supposed to listen to them. Guess a wolf dressed in wool doesn't process things that deeply!

Ronco said...

Now you've done it, NO2HWA- Dr Bob has his panties in a wad and now has produced a manifesto in defense of his prophetic powers on his news feed.

https://www.cogwriter.com/gnews.htm

NO2HWA said...

Bob is so predictable that he takes the bait without even realizing it! What is really amazing is how delicate he is at being called out for his deceptions.

Anonymous said...

He needs to pay the Witchdoctors more money, maybe give them some Gold from Evans boy. This will motivate the dudes to cast more powerful spells to deceive the masses, and make Bobby one of the 2 Witnesses 👹🦇

Anonymous said...

Doug Winnail wrote: "...God has given His Church “a more sure word of prophecy” (2 Peter 1:19, King James Version) so we can warn the Israelite nations and the world of the prophetic significance of world events. It is an awesome responsibility to be commissioned as a watchman (Ezekiel 3:16–21; 33:1–11). It is also sobering to see that Satan has deceived the world and many in the Church to discount the importance of prophecy. We must never take Bible prophecy and our commission lightly...."
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Yes, God has given His Church "a more sure word of prophecy," but who is Doug Winnail, but one of many hirelings who fled from the former WCG to follow other former WCG hirelings in starting their own thing; however, so far the prophecies from these manmade organizations are coming across as Junk Food Prophecies, because they are not sticking with that more sure word of prophecy. It's all part of a Fear Religion while lording it over people.

What happened to Jesus Christ, assisted by some "little helpers," coming "very soon" to reign on earth for 1,000 years? It's Junk Food. Do any of these former WCG hirelings really understand Jesus' God's plan of salvation regarding God's Kingdom of God to bless (Gal 3:8; Gen 12:3, etc.) all families/nations?

Speaking of "little helpers," a portion of a transcript to a sermon on "How Do I Have Faith," given 19 July 1997, said this:
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"...Now, some of you who went out there, and started your own organization?
You wanted to carry on, but you didn’t ask God if He wanted it to carry on. You just wanted to do it.
You were just Mr. Armstrong’s “little helpers” and, when the true servant was taken away from you, we see where all of you ran!
It really isn’t a very good report-card, boys. You’ve all started your own little Boys clubs out there to take care of the ministry!
Well, the ministry isn’t the ministry anymore. Mr. Armstrong doesn’t need his “little helpers” anymore and, after all, you all left the Church anyway, didn’t you?
Think about it..."
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Doug is one among many hirelings of the former WCG, who fled, ran away, like so many of HWA's "little helpers," who left their ministerial credentials behind in Pasadena.

Of all of the manmade organizations created out there as spin-offs splinters of the former WCG, which one was God really working with, if any? Where's the good fruit? Good works? Has their "god" fallen asleep, fallen down on the job (The WORK)?

Doug is a repeater of his own messages from his own mind, inspired by another spirit (James 4:5), as time continues on and there is no Jesus, accompanied by "little helpers," reigning on earth today! Is Doug and those other hirelings (like Doug, also inspired by another spirit) of the former WCG locked on to another gospel, some false gospel, because they are following another Jesus, a false Jesus?

Time will tell...

John

Anonymous said...

"O Brother, Where Art Thou?" Even the members of the church he says don't want to listen to their version of prophecy any more. Maybe they are starting to see something else Doug W.

Anonymous said...

There's an old saying in business! "Your raise becomes effective the minute you do!"

Support for the work these aspiring prophets are attempting to do should be based on the accuracy of their prophecies. HWA taught us a great lesson. He put a timeline on his prophecies! That immediately gave the brethren a method with which to measure his effectiveness. Unfortunately, a great number of them allowed him to waffle, renegotiate, and reprogram them. There has been no accountability within any of the ACOGs for false prophecy throughout subsequent decades. People have died awaiting validation they thought they would see for their lives of sacrifice following this man! They are still dying off as they follow his third rate place-holders, who are even less accountable since he threw off that standard in 1975!

BillW said...

The only teensy problem? Not one single prophecy from Rod Meredith, Gerald Weston, Herbert Armstrong, or their endless parade of spiritual heirs has ever come true. Not. One.>>
.Armstrong made the Millerites /Adventist/ Watchtower and others like them combined all look like just rank amateurs

Anonymous said...

What is Doug trying to say here? That LCG has the prophecy gift and that we had better listen? Didn't they say that the "falling away" prophecy has yet to occur? If you disagree with their prophetic interpretations you might find yourself disfellowshipped like me. Apparently they don't know anything about 1 Cor 14 which teaches us how to handle prophecy discussions. "For you may ALL prophesy one by one (except in LCG where THEIR word is the law)".
Is it right to disfellowship over prophecy disagreements? If it is, for the sake of unity, then you will end up disfellowshipping everyone in your congregation except the "yes men".

Anonymous said...

8:14 thank you for your courage. They give lip service to " search the scriptures" (Acts 17:11) but once you do it and it doesn't square with their narrative, then it's a problem. Their deception is that they feel all their prophecy has still been correct after all these years.  I can't drink that Kool-Aid any more.