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Dennis On: "If We Are Following the Churches of God, We Are Still Stuck in Them"

If We Are Following the Churches of God, We Are Still Stuck in Them

Our lives go where our energy flows.  Seems simple enough and self evident.  If we ask the average person who used to be a member of any of the myriad Churches of God when they left it, it's easy to get an answer of "in the 70's,"  "In the 80's," "in the 90's," or "not soon enough..." 

Really?   It has taken some time to understand that while I left in the late '90's,  I am still stuck in them...all of them it seems sometimes.   Like a lost love, I find myself thinking of it every day.  I write it letters to see if something can't be fixed.  I get irritated when they don't answer and keep on doing the very things that caused me to "leave."  Worse I suppose is having them remind me of why they left me!  

I watch and monitor their crazy new relationships.  Shake my head at their lofty ideals and goals while ever holding the carrot of Christ's return just ahead of their member noses.  A antics of a couple of the COG restored, living and packaged editions in particular still fascinate me.

I listen to them explain themselves and repeat the same time proven ways of getting the brain dead to respond with support for themselves.  And the brain dead seem to multiply faster than those who have awakened to the changes needed to get on with life.   Not all who leave a COG actually leave it.  It has had a powerful mind altering effect on most.  Let's face it...it was a program.  I got programmed like anyone else, and  I allowed it and wanted to be, and then I became a programmer until I woke up and realized this simply does not work as advertised and every quiet fear of what probably would happen if they didn't get their act together in the last days of HWA, did happen.  

It struck me how inane the constant monitoring of the COGs really is when I realized that the Great and Almighty Apostle David C Pack has about 1000 people in his whole church worldwide...  Really?  More people than that stop for coffee every morning at Starbucks around here  

This stupendous and thunderous copycat has 1000 followers and spends millions getting them?  If the number is accurate then we know it didn't come from DCP.  In his mind, practically the whole world knows who he is.  If it is accurate, then it will be interesting to see how a whole new Theological Industrial Complex can be founded on the contributions of so few.  If DCP gave the number then we can assume it is probably half that as DCP always embellishes and blows up the numbers because "I'm not about numbers..."   Really?   Of course it is all about the numbers.  That's what Gospel Spinners are told to do.  Get those numbers. 

But I digress....

I can only speak for myself  (well I could speak for you too, but you'd just get pissed.)    I want out of the Church of God, body, mind and spirit.  The body got out, but it is obvious to me, the mind and spirit never has to date.  Of all the things I've ever lost, I miss my mind the most...as they say.  

In my world today, love is really all there is when we understand it.  Everything else, all the COG hype and views are an illusion.  The answer, for me, is not to find a better illusion but to simply sit down before the facts as a little child, as someone once said, and let the facts take one where they go.  The COGs are not big on facts.  Fantasy and illusions sound better, are much more encouraging in the short term and can generate a lot of income if done well.  Sorry Ron, you didn't do it so well and it caught up with you.  However and for now, he still seems to have the attention of some few more brain dead than ever until he doesn't.

In the bigger picture, the Bible spins a tale, or many tales that actually don't meld together well.  It presents it's own illusions and buying into them and refusing to see all is not as presented is easy.  It is much easier to be en-couraged by Lions and Lambs than doing the hard science needed to understand what is probably more real and more true about it all.  After all, the bottom line fear we treat with a good dose of religion, true or false, is our ingrained fear of death and what comes next if anything.

Perfect love doesn't cast out hate.  Hate is not the opposite of love.  Fear is the opposite of love and fear drives us more easily than love for the most part.  I'd like love to cast out my own fears.  I have too many of them and they rise up far too often and run the show until they dissipate.   So, I believe that love really is all there really is and all else in an illusion.  Fear is False Evidence Appearing Real, but it can appear very real if we are not careful.

So I left the COG in the 90's.   But it is obvious to me I have not left it.  I'm working on it and probably only stay in the hope that some few might benefit from hearing about the process.  Thinking you are the only one in the world having faced this kind of experience is, of course, not true and needs not be made larger than it deserves. 

If all else fails, I would appreciate it if some WCG/COG minister would just write and tell me I have been finally dis-membered and while they wish me no harm are sorry that they had to take such action and we can skip the part about doing it in the hope it will lead to repentance.

I once had a minister buddy send in a disfellowship card on a G. Shephard.  Seems the dog had bit him pretty good and this was his revenge.  

I'll end with Buddhist story that has an obvious point..   I guess one was a real monk and the other was just a monk-ey...  :)

Two Monks Carry Woman

Zen Buddhist story

http://users.skynet.be/lotus/story/story-en.htm

Two monks, going to a neighbouring monastery, walked side by side in silence. They arrived at a river they had to cross. 

That season, waters were higher than usual. 

On the bank, a young woman was hesitating and asked the younger 

of the two monks for help. 

He exclaimed, 'Don't you see that I am a monk, that I took a vow of chastity?'

'I require nothing from you that could impede your vow, but simply to help me to cross the river,' replied the young woman with a little smile.

'I...not...I can...do nothing for you,' said the embarrassed young monk.

'It doesn't matter,' said the elderly monk. 

'Climb on my back and we will cross together.'

Having reached the other bank, the old monk put down the young woman who, in return, thanked him with a broad smile. 

She left thier side and both monks continued their route in silence. 

Close to the monastery, the young monk could not stand it anymore and said, 

'You shouldn't have carried that person on your back. It's against our rules.'

'This young woman needed help and I put her down on the other bank. You didn't carry her at all, but she is still on your back,' replied the older monk."

"She's still on your back..."   I get it now.....

Dennis C. Diehl
DenniscDiehl@aol.com

Apostle Malm Starts Secret Facebook Site

Apostle Malm claims he is not set financially to start a Feast site this year so he has resorted to the next best thing - FACEBOOK!  Oh, and it is a secret site too.  Really?

Because I am unable to provide local services or a Feast site at this time, a suggestion was made to set up a Facebook group.

A man who has decades in the faith and with whom I have been in contact for over a year has volunteered to run a facebook site for the brethren.  This person has set up a group site with very careful consideration for the security of the group members.

He will moderate the site and will have the last word on who is admitted to membership.  All members may invite other persons to join with the understanding that acceptance is up to the moderator.  This site is for those of a common mind to meet and interact with each other.

He  may be contacted to join and for more information at:    E-mail address:
EkkleKonx@gmail.com  responses will show “Nw Christian” as the author.

I invite all those interested to email for more information as soon as possible to get this rolling.
This site is for those of a common mind to meet and interact with each other.  The security is to prevent trouble makers who are selling a private belief inimical to our positions or just want to cause trouble.   We wish to provide a sense of security as far as is possible.

The Fb group will be  secret – members must be approved – members may post and read posts.  All members may invite other persons to join with the understanding that acceptance is up to the moderator.

I know of several persons who would want to join the group, but I caution people that not everyone is ready to post on facebook for a variety of reasons.  Therefore I would expect this to start off slowly and then build over time.

 The apostle makes a point in telling everyone that he is not ashamed of his message or his god, yet he is now cavorting in secret with others.  Talk about hypocrisy!

...are people afraid to go forth in public boldness for our Mighty One and want some shameful “Strong Hand From Someplace” dissimulation to pretend to declare the word of God while saying nothing ? 3/8/11

Sabbath Breakers Are Out To Lead Simple Women Away From Their Chastity

More hilarity from apsotle Malm:

They have a certain outward appearance of righteous, but they do what THEY think is right and NOT what God commands. They are the kind of people who go to church and say “Oh, I am so righteous because God has called me and I’m going to a great corporate church. We have great ministers and great sermons. And all of this is so great.” And then they go home. They pollute their bodies. They pollute the Sabbath. They envy their neighbors. They abuse their children and their wives. They’re unfaithful, unthinking, and unthankful. Yes, from such turn away.

For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with diver’s lusts. II Tim 3

That is, these kinds of people will take advantage of simple women to seduce them and led them away from their chastity.  This is a type of false teachers leading the simple and ungrounded in sound doctrine away from, the faith for all saints are symbolic women and called to be chaste virgins fit to be a part of teh bride of the Lamb.

Has the Church of God Ever Had An Original Thought?

For well over seventy years various Churches of God have declared that it's beliefs and understanding were products of restored truths that had been lost for over 1,900 years.  Herbert Armstrong declared that his understanding was all sent from God after his yes were opened.  The question that needs to be asked is just what is it that he taught that was original and his own?

British Israelism was around hundreds of years before HWA ever touched the subject.  Then he has to go and copy word for word out of "Judah's Scepter and Jacob's Birthright."

Then the Church of God 7th Day revealed that HWA had copied word for word one of it's own booklets that he called "Has Time Been Lost."

The teaching that we were all to become gods, was taken from the Mormons.  The Jehovahs Witnesses provided plenty of resources for prophecy and end times malarkey that HWA used.  His basement safe was filled with JW books.

Now to add to that list, is an entry that James has on the Painful Truth blog about soon coming world dictator (Beast Power/European Union) soon to arise.  HWA started writing about the soon to emerge European Union that would be the Beast of Revelation around 1934.  Was this something new that God had revealed to HWA?  Don't count on it.  There were numerous articles in newspapers and magazines as far back as 1929 detailing the upcoming European Union.  For more article clippings fromteh1930's click here:  "Stolen Ideas" Using Newspapers to Invent Prophecy

Using newspaper articles to fit you end of the world theories is typical Armstrongism.  The research departments at Pasadena worked overtime in trying to find anything that fit the prophecy scenario that HWA was trying to establish.  Prophecy prediction was just as reliable as the proof-texting that the church employed when it came to scriptures.  As we all now know, the Church of GOd has failed miserably in both of these areas.
 

The True WCG Says: Nations Fear the U.S. Because We Have Special UFO Contacts

Just when you think the looney farm that makes up the Churches of God could not get any weirder, along comes E. W. King with more stupidity.

Did you know that the nations of the world are in awe and fear of the United States because of the special relationship we have with UFO's?  UFO's seem to prefer Americans to study, probe and have sex with over other humans around the world.. 

According to King, the US military has hoards of documentation UFO sightings by American test pilots and others.

But what do we see now? People from ancient past have talked about strange objects in the sky. Before there was any flight technology these sighting must have seemed super strange. Now that man has flight technology many things have been seen in the sky? Should this surprise us? No. During the 1940’s humans were experimenting with all sorts of new military craft. Commercial pilots reported seeing all sorts of things. The US Air Force started “Project Blue Book” to find out just who saw what and to create cover stories to protect the Top Secret experimental air craft’s.

King, like all good Armstrongites has to interject "sex" into the mix.  Spanky must be proud!

Now it is true that other anomalies have been spotted that are not manmade objects flying through the sky. What of these? Many are simply things occurring naturally that man does not yet understand. But there is a very small percentage that seems to be guided or “intelligent” objects. What are these? Many claim that they are little-gray bug type aliens that are flying around. Thousands of people have come forth with stories claiming that they have been abducted by these ET’s. Their stories are simply horrifying. They claim that these little gray-bug type aliens have done numerous operations on their bodies. Many of these stories involve strange sexual activity.

Here is his astounding wisdom on how nations fear us because of our UFO contacts:

Before I talk further about this phenomenon let me here say that these stories in some ways help America because the other countries now think that we are favored with extraterrestrial technology and private “special” contact. This adds fear to the nations. We can now say that we have the best ‘extraterrestrial technology’. In some ways the US Government feeds into these stories and even helps invent and promote them. We can now turn our TV’s on and watch National Geographic and or Discovery Channel only to learn that we have been created by these aliens. This false propaganda has even a darker side to it.

Of course that darker side is that big, bad, old meanie Satan. Armstrongism, for some reason, lives in fear of it's created creature they call satan.  They give their satan far more power than there actually may be.  They also talk about him way more than they do Jesus Christ.

You can read his entire post here:  Top Secret – Fire from the Sky

UCG Begging For One Million Dollars

Beyond Today TV Studio is Really, Really SMALL!

United Church of God wants all it's members to know just how incredibly small their TV studio is.  Just look at those three men all crammed on to one pathetic little stage.  Poor little guys! One desk cannot serve them all properly.

After the membership initially balked at the the proposal for  new studios earlier in the year, now the UCG brass are trying to ramrod it through again.

I would like to ask for your prayers regarding the need for a larger and improved television studio so that we can produce even better and higher quality programs. We have a great team working together, and they do an amazing job considering the small size of the studio and the equipment available. And please pray for our three TV presenters, Darris McNeely, Steve Myers and Gary Petty, that God will continue to inspire and strengthen them and help them grow stronger and wiser in preaching and teaching His truth! They need our prayers and support even more with the expansion of our Beyond Today TV program into many more countries around the world.

Then UCG takes a page right out of the Paul and Jan Crouch fund raising book.

And one final matter that I would like to share with you and ask you to pray about. God has blessed the United Church of God with a good, steady income because of your faithfulness in tithes and offerings, and we are doing well considering the church split we went through about 18 months ago. But now we are growing and expanding our efforts to preach the gospel and prepare a people.

So what am I asking you to pray about? It is this: that God will provide the “faith line,” an extra one million dollars income that we have included in our new budget, on faith, in order to keep growing and moving forward. Our treasurer, Aaron Dean, included this same amount in last year’s fiscal budget as a faith line—trusting God to provide the extra income that we would need to balance our budget—and God did provide it!

Oh, and we are just one big happy lovey-dovey family!  The reality is, you are only loved as long as you toe the line.  Deviate anyway off the path and you will experience true Church of God love rather swiftly.

Here at the home office in Cincinnati, Ohio, we are working together in peace and unity to accomplish God’s work. We all love one another and enjoy working together. As a result, God is opening many doors and blessing us with new opportunities to do His work and serve others.