Dennis On: "This Will Be Like Nothing I Have Ever Quite Taught This Way Before...."

"This Will Be Like Nothing I Have Ever Quite Taught This Way Before...."

The Bewildered Apostle asks:

" Why do no other leaders understand ANY of the awesome and incredibly detailed prophecy that I am about to present—the what, when, where and how this reunification will occur?"

Because you're making it up?

Because they have a strong feeling it is just cleverly hidden proof-texting  

that always comes back and points to Dave Pack?

Because you are not a likeable person in real life?

Because they have read the experiences of others 

and their shelf life with you seems limited?

Because the few who left one COG to align themselves with your COG 

seem to disappear into the void after they confess you?

Because you are arrogant in your presentation and demeanor?

Because you use the word "awesome" to often?

Because you have said three of them will die all on the same day 

and that will prove you to be awesome?

Because working with and for you may increase 

their Rolaids budget too much?

Because working with and for you may get between them

 and their meager savings?

Because saying "yes sir, whatever you say sir," 

makes them feel like shit not actually agreeing with you?

Because when their wives say, 

"You gonna let that guy tell you everything to do, think and believe?" 

and it will make them feel emasculated and weak?

Because they think you just make it up as you go?

...oh sorry, already said that. 

Because like your incredibly detailed sermon on 

"And Yes Brethren, I am an Apostle" 

will make their asses sore listening 4 hours to the incredible details 

and not actually see how those incredible details are connected in reality?

Because you love the kind of member and minister that says, 

"whatever you say" and they don't?

Because you are one of the most arrogant human beings ever

 not actually called to be "the leader" they have ever read or met? 

Because you have left a trail of tears and drama behind every place 

you have ever been or landed? 

Because it really is all about the numbers?

Because they know they would have to 

check their own brains at your door?

Because they have already learned that fair speeches 

with conviction and pizzaz do not truth make?

More Apostolic Opinage:

"So obviously, for God’s people to be together, ALL organizations but ONE must “go away,” meaning everyone must leave them to enter that ONE organization—the ONE Church that Christ built. Continue thinking at the most basic level. EVERY splinter leader would support this, but of course only if HE led that one organization."

Because when you say, "think at the most basic level," as you do, 

they know you mean, 

"Come on simpletons not as wise as me, this is not rocket science."?

Because they are pretty sure you are the one who will 

come out on top as the leader and that is a no-show?

Because when you say "every splinter leader would support this

...if HE lead that one organization,"

 really means, 

"They won't come to ME as the leader of Christ's one true church."?

Because, as far as they and I remember, 

you never could work for anyone very long in your life 

before it all blew up and it seems you aren't happy, 

or ever have been unless you run everything 

and get the credit for the awesomeness of it all?

The Awesome Apostle thrills with:

"Next Friday I will start bringing the scriptural details of the prophecy revealing that all of God’s people will soon be back together. In time this will include exactly HOW and WHEN this will occur. The first elements of this “explaining” process will take three or four Friday announcements."

Perhaps they fear "the scriptural details of THE PROPHECY, 

will be a mish-mash of long winded explanations, analogies, 

types and bullshit badly woven together into a out of date garment?

Perhaps they understand you have mastered the art of making non-prophecy 

mean what it never meant and prophecy 'so called' 

apply to you when of course it does not?

Perhaps they are concerned yet another "HOW" and "WHEN"  

is just more not really that way or now yet ?

Because some even realize you are not actually a trained theologian 

but rather a spiffy Bible Reader who doesn't even know the context of

 "Line upon line, line upon line, here a little , there a little," 

which is NOT a formula for how to study the Bible?

(Hint: God is mocking with baby talk what the priests 

say and do in their drunken state.) 

Because they don't want to be brought back together 

under your leadership in the first place?

Because some think you will drag this out to August when ...well you know?

The Apostle predicts our reactions:

"The announcements of coming weeks and months will shock you beyond imagination!"

But what if they are already burned out on the overarching,

 awesome, incredible and amazing past stuff 

you proclaimed and can't get it up for more?

What if they can imagine more than you can imagine they can imagine?

What if they wonder if you know all the announcements already 

why not get to the point and save them some gas money?

What if after all this all most can come up with is 

"Man, this is a bunch of bull shit it I ever heard it."?

What if they decide they have been too hard on their pastors and leaders

 after meeting you and go back to them apologizing 

for being too judgmental and unhelpful but grateful to God 

they don't lead like you do or adopt so many titles as you need?

What if United and Living actually united and came alive?

What if being "shocked" is getting old and in hind sight, 

not all that shocking actually?

The Apostle Rejoices Over:

" Repentant ministers and many faithful splinter employees will carry on,

 serving solely in God’s Church."

What if ministers won't sign your terms of repentance forms?

What if faithful splinployees won't sign 

your terms of repentance forms?

What if repentant ministers figure out no one who ever repented into RCG 

ever got to speak or teach again publicly as far as we can tell.  

Did Dale Schurter die?

What if you can't find enough repentant splinployees to mow the grass, 

ride in the electric carts you like so much 

or polish your statue?

What if a repentant minister or fake board member 

finally wakes up someday soon and says, 

"Hell no you don't need a corporate Jet!"?

What if some repentant splinployee or treasurer 

advises Whitman Chocolates instead of Steuben???

And Finally Brethren:

"Make no mistake. The last three paragraphs are TRUE! 

Read them again, this time more carefully."

So you think we're too stupid to get it the first time?

(You'll have to give these next awesome sermons 

over a few times so we get it.)

What if we really don't want to make a mistake either 

so coming back to you makes no sense?

What if the way you spin the Old Testament in the coming weeks 

and proof text an idea you already accept 

as true turns out to not really be true?

What if we share tapes of your sermons with other theologians 

and get some input from them?

I guess we covered the arrogant part already...

I kinda like these observations, still valid today about questionable Apostles, in this case the Apostle Paul but don't take these as compliments.

Bishop John S. Spong (Episcopal Bishop of Newark)

"Paul's words are not the Words of God. They are the words of Paul- a vast difference." 

Carl Jung (Psychologist)

"Paul hardly ever allows the real Jesus of Nazareth to get a word in."

Albert Schweitzer

(Insert Apostle Dave for "he" and "Paul")

"Where possible he (Paul) avoids quoting the teaching of Jesus, in fact even mentioning it. If we had to rely on Paul, we should not know that Jesus taught in parables, had delivered the sermon on the mount, and had taught His disciples the 'Our Father.' Even where they are specially relevant, Paul passes over the words of the Lord."

David Hume

"When men are most sure and arrogant they are commonly most mistaken, giving views to passion without proper deliberation which alone can secure them from the grossest absurdities"

Because we're just gonna bet you have not bounced any 
of your prophetic ideas 

off real men (or anyone) who could really stand up and say, 

"that's the biggest load of BS I have ever heard.  

That's not what those scriptures are meant to mean. 

Have you considered a counselor"?

 

denniscdiehl@AOL.com 

Hey Dudes! The Street Light Is Off!

There is an excellent entry on All About Armstrongism today.

ARMSTRONGISM: What’s The Point of A Moth Buzzing around a Street Light that’s Off in the Daytime? – A State of Armstrongism “Emotional Release” from this Blogger 

The blog owner writes:

....With all of the 700 plus splinters out there, you’d think they would get a clue that something in Armstrongism is completely wrong. Totally wrong. Abjectly wrong. Look at what is happening here. Every group is fighting each other! The one who is physically growing, reportedly the most, is sitting there accusing the others of nearly completely dying off, while another group claims they’re having great growth themselves, to name a few examples. Group after group writing why they have the blessing of God. Group after work claiming unity when anyone looking from the outside in can clearly see that there is little unity to be had. Members jumping from church to church, leaving because of this or that, trying to find the “right one” out of over 700 that most closely agrees to what they think. Churches competing for members of other churches because most “new people from the world” don’t fall for their crap anymore – while rogue leader wanna-be’s pop up and self-appoint themselves with a great sounding spiritual title, start a church, draw some members and start their own version of Armstrongism, usually complete with a new truth here, and a new truth there, here a truth, there a truth, everywhere a truth truth, until the members come comin’ around the mountain till He comes. And it continues over and over and over and over and over again.

And, inevitably, a large enough group of members will disagree with some aspect of the ministry, and, inevitably, a division will result, a split will occur, the church will split, and the division that has started with one large church and has now resulted in over 700 plus churches and groups, will continue to split. I believe the same thing will happen with even the “most growing church” once a new leader takes it over, signs are in place for another church to split, and it will continue to happen as members take their internal beliefs in disagreement with organizational beliefs and start a church with their own interpretations of the law, the bible, and Armstrongism. And the division, bickering, squabbling, arguing, competition, and trash talking will continue.

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I feel like yelling at them saying “LOOK! THE STREET LIGHT IS OFF! There is no use for street lights when the sun is up! But you guys are saying the street light is still ON when the sun is up! What’s going on! Can’t you see that when the Light comes the Street Lights are old and useless and have become obsolete? It’s a waste to keep Street Lights on when the true light is here! And you guys are saying that God expects you to keep all the street lighting on when the sun is up? What are you thinking! the sun is far brighter and far more illuminating then street lights! The street lights served their purpose when it was dark! The street light serves their purposes when the earth is cut off from the Sun! Their light was great when it was useful! But now that the sun is up, what use is there of it? Is the Sun up or not? You guys say it is not up, but look, the sun is brightly shining, and you are sitting there telling your people to keep buzzing around the street lights when the sun is brightly up and sets you guys free to explore all the wildflowers, grasses, and insect life that is now plainly seen with the sun. You’re free – but in Armstrongism insanity, you keep buzzing around the streetlights in the daytime that if you just look are plainly OFF because they are not needed anymore. What kind of insanity reasoning is this?!”

Jesus Pranks

Day of Atonement

Relive those wonderful, fun filled days, when you were forced to fast as a child in Armstrongism.

E. W. King Says: "Behold, the Rose of Sharon amongst the brutish pastors"

Dave Pack's wimpish little ministry is nothing compared to the one and only TRUE Church of God left on earth today.  That church is the original Worldwide Church of God run by E.W.  No harlot daughter of the great mother church (WCG) carries the mantle of God's true church.

King writes:

Dear people who find themselves in any one of the current WCG offshoot groups; it is time to truly “study to shew yourselves approved unto God”. Do you really understand what the true Church of God is? What is all of this? These different groups all are claiming to be the “one true church of God”? Shouldn’t we have the Biblical understanding of the differing church eras? How do we know where we stand in prophetic history without the right understanding of our own times?

Jesus Christ is the one who gave the original COG the name Radio Church of God.  Then Jesus Christ realized how stupid that name sounded and gave it a new name, the Worldwide Church of God."  Jesus Christ was very pleased. He is so pleased now that the name WCG cannot be replaced by any splinter group out there.  These are all apostate whores of the mother church.

First and foremost you must have the correct name of the 6^th epoch church era and that is the Philadelphian Church Era. Most all COG groups believe that Mr. H.W.Armstrong ushered in the Philadelphia Era of church time. The counsel to this church which was given by Jesus Christ Himself states of that church: “You have not denied my name.” [Revelation 3:8] What name was that? Jesus says that the name belongs to Him. He gave the Philadelphia church the name; “Worldwide Church of God”. At first, God began to organize His children through the “Radio Church of God”. For the first time the gospel of the Kingdom was being spread with great force worldwide through God’s end time Apostle. The 6^th church era came full force in 1968 when Christ gave it the official Philadelphian name, “The Worldwide Church of God”….this cannot be changed!

Jesus Christ had a previous name for the COG prior to calling it Radio Church of God.

[Note: Prior to Mr. H.W.Armstrong ushering in the WCG 6^th era, the church under the 5^th era was known as; “Church of God, Seventh Day”.]

You would think an all powerful god such as the one King follows could have come up with an original name for the church millennia ago and stuck with it.  But noooooooooooooo he has to come up with a new name ever few decades.

We have all heard for many decades that the "door Jesus Christ opened can never be shut."  That is still true today, that is why WCG still exists.  It can not be shut down.

Jesus also promised this 6^th church that He [Jesus Christ] “opened a door which no man can shut”. [Revelation 3:8. So the door to the true Philadelphian church shall be open all the way into and through the Great Tribulation. What all of the offshoot groups have ignored is this very fact!  This means that the NAME OF THIS CHURCH CANNOT BE CHANGED!

All of the harlot daughters of he WCG out there have all turned their backs on their god.  Only one man has had the courage and faith to step out and stand up for the truth.  When E.W. King resurrected the WCG it began the start of the Laodicean era.  Because of that, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, Rod Meredith, Bob Thiel and all the other COG have become harlot daughters with none of them doing a "work."

Now we have studied the fact that during the sixth church era, the Philadelphian, God chose an apostle to direct this organization. We must understand that this true restored church government cannot be changed! During the Philadelphian era God called His church, “The Worldwide Church of God” and promised that this very church would go right into and through the 7^th church time, that of Laodicea.

As many of you who have studied now know, we began entering the typical Laodicean era right before the death of Mr. H.W.Armstrong because of the apostasy of his son. Then, the Laodicean era became even more pronounced after the death of Mr. Armstrong. We officially entered the Typical Laodicean era, the seventh church time (era or epoch) on October 7^th 2011 due to the “resurrection” of WCG and the revealing of the Hidden Doctrine of Mr. H.W.Armstrong.

We maintain the original title; “Worldwide Church of God”. This cannot be changed! Many “splinter”, offshoots, groups and corporations through men have tried to change this first important fact.  Apostasy began in the 70's. It rose in 1978 and still continues today. The true Church is still “The Worldwide Church of God”. Some have tried to buy this name, some have tried to hijack this name...and most all have tried to change this name! This cannot be done!

Satan is really pissed at the Church of God.  He is out to destroy it.  I think as we all know that Satan had no hand in destroying the church .  Our own men in charge did that quit well without any help from Satan.

Satan has tried to destroy this church over and over again. While Mr. H.W. Armstrong was alive Satan came in through Garner Ted Armstrong and tried to destroy the true doctrine of Christian marriage. He failed! Mr. H.W. Armstrong said that if Satan triumphed over the true doctrine of marriage that, “The Worldwide Church of God would be spewed out of Christ’s mouth.” It is true that the WCG experienced a partial “death” but it was resurrected! [Please read: The Resurrection of Mr. H.W. Armstrong to understand].

King then contradicts Dave Pack with the following.  Dave Pack obviously is a lair.  No one is going to be flocking  into the Restored Church of God.  Everyone is heading over to E.W. Kings group.

“For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.” [Jeremiah 10:21] Only those who have left and heed the counsel that Jesus Christ gave to the Laodicean church can come into [return] to the true Worldwide Church of God. God is calling new converts and old back into His one true Church, the church the Jesus Christ built!

So this Spirit of Truth, this comforter is our assurance or down payment from God in our minds that we , the COGSR, the only true church, are the sons of God. God has given us the ability to understand the mystery of his will clearly. The apostle Paul gives a very clear description of his coming to understand God's will while addressing the Galatians, In Gal 1:11 he says "But I certify (guarantee) unto you brethren, that the gospel that was preached of me is not after (according)  men. vs12 "For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it (by man) BUT BY THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST", or by the Spirit of Truth. Paul is clearly explaining that Jesus Christ made known unto him the mystery of God's will through Revelation, or just put it in his mind.”

Poor silly Dave Pack must be shivering in his boots  in Wadsworth at this news.  I bet his mind cannot handle the fact that the tens of thousands of returning members he is expecting are all heading over to King's group.  What a waste all those new buildings will be in Wadsworth.

There you have it folks.  The real truth only resides in King's group.  Dave and his group are nothing.  Meredith and Flurry are nothing.  They are all hot air. Salvation can only be through E.W.King now.

Alton Billingsley: Your Salvation Is At Risk If You Do Not Reread The Orginal Mystery of the Ages

Billingsley thinks your salivation is at risk unless you reread HWA's ORIGINAL copy of The Mystery of the Ages.  Billinglsey and Flurry both have placed HWA's book on par with the Bible.  YOU cannot have one without the other.  Salvation only comes by reading both. The bastardized version that Gerald Flurry is pawning off on gullible COG members does not count.  Lord Six Pack has edited out references that invalidates his self-appointed status as leader and the rightful heir of HWA.

Billinglsey writes:

As we draw closer to the fulfillment of the end-time prophecies of Jesus Christ, I have great concern for the thousands of members who were once of us; many of whom I have known personally over the 58 years as a member of God’s true Church; and a minister for 53 years.

Over seven years, I have been writing letters in the Journal News Paper (Based in Big Sandy, Texas) trying very hard to get the members who read my writings to re-read the original unedited MYSTERY OF THE AGES, the last book Mr. Armstrong wrote, in the last year of his life, to aid all— “. . . to contend earnestly for the FAITH which was ONCE FOR ALL DELIVERED to the saints” (Jude 3-4; II Peter 2:1-3).

Hardly anyone even responds. Sadly, the day will soon come when many will wish they had returned to the fullness of the Faith of Jesus Christ with belief and their whole heart. It is enough to make a person want to cry for them as did Jeremiah for Judah knowing what was going to take place with them, and no one would listen to him (Jeremiah 8:2122; 9:1). Instead they placed him in prison.

Thankfully, COG members have realized that Billingsley is a nut job and are not flocking to him.  When a COG minister says "hardly" it means NO ONE is responding.

Dave Pack: STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!! My TV Show Will Soon Be the Most Watched TV Show In the ENTIRE World!

IMPORTANT NEWS ALERT from Mr. Dave Pack!!  

This announcement is the most MIND-BOGGLING announcement that the 

Church of God has EVER experienced!  

There has been NO OTHER announcement such as this in the 6,000 years of human HISTORY!  

This is the most important thing to happen in the world since the PRINTING PRESS

was created for the express use of the Church of God.  

Not since the birth of Mr. Dave Pack has the earth experienced ANYTHING this earth shattering. 

Satan and his demons will be trembling at the SHOCKING announcement

 that I, Mr. Dave Pack, am about to make!  

The impotent Churches of God, particularly Living Church of God, United Church of God, Continuing Church of God, and the Philadelphia Church of God will be HUMILIATED beyond recovery with this news.

 Untold thousands will SOON leave the apostate Churches of God 

to return to the truth once delivered.   

Nothing more EARTH-SHATTERING than this announcement has been made since 

Mr. Armstrong found the truth that had been lost for 1,900 years. 

Share with us in the awesome miraculous POWER of God as he THRUSTS Mr. Dave Pack

 and the Restored Church of God to the FOREFRONT in the nations around the world! 

 God has richly blessed the work of Mr. Dave Pack who's presence is causing such a worldwide stir on television that we cannot keep up with the mail coming in. 

So much mail is coming in with donations that we have had to hire temporary workers 

just to open the MILLIONS of letters arriving every day.  

The demand for Mr. Dave Pack's videos has reached such an EARTH-SHATTERING magnitude that God has DIRECTED that Mr. Dave Pack

  build a THIRD building!

Yours in Jesus Christ,

Mr. Dave Pack

Sorry, I couldn't resist......

Dave writes:

The World to Come broadcast will soon be among the most watched religious programs in the world. Eventually it will be number one! To keep pace with its continuing rapid expansion, we are pleased to introduce the construction of a third building to be added to our Headquarters Campus—a Media Center. (It joins the almost completed Hall of Administration and the recently announced Mail Processing Center.) With The World to Come now reaching millions across the world, this tremendous media growth is causing us to outgrow our current television studio. More space, equipment and manpower is required. (For those who missed past announcements detailing our dramatic television expansion, be sure to read them.)

This over 4,000-square-foot state-of-the-art facility will house three studios of different size, as well as our growing Media Production Services Department (MPS). These vitally important studios will contain various beautiful set designs, coupled with the very latest technology. More workspace will also be available for our media team to assemble the professional graphics, news footage, powerful statistics, music and other elements that make up The World to Come program. Besides regular broadcasts, MPS also produces extensive annual “Behind the Work” films, along with the Church’s many other video and audio productions.

Translation:

Brethren, this is the facility that God has brought to us because of the weak impotent pussy-boys in the LCG, UCG, CCG, and PCG that God has turned his back on. 

The Living Church of God recently lost its Canadian television stations and God has made it possible that we bought them all up.  These impotent little pussy-boys cower at the mere mention of my name now.

Dave continues to humiliate Rod Meredith:

The Media Center will include a much expanded main recording studio—double the size of our current one. It will also have a cutting edge video editing suite, a photography studio, conference space, video machine room and expanded workspace for the graphic designers and video editors, both current and future. The building will be treated with state-of-the-art soundproofing, which creates the best possible recording conditions.

In an image-driven “video” world, a separate media building becomes a necessity. The constantly evolving television and Internet landscape of today’s media environment mean we must be ready to adjust accordingly, and sometimes quickly. The future will make clear in what ways television and video production will be further used within the final Work of God, but the Media Center puts us in a position to suddenly shift as the industry does.

 

Notice that Dave plans on building a concert hall too.

Dave then gives us a foretaste of what to expect with his next earth-shattering announcement.  He is still under the delusion that tens of thousands of exCOG members will soon be returning to his church (along with their money).

Next Friday I will start bringing the scriptural details of the prophecy revealing that all of God’s people will soon be back together. In time this will include exactly HOW and WHEN this will occur. The first elements of this “explaining” process will take three or four Friday announcements.

Consider this. Enough time has passed that an irony is developing regarding this prophecy. Having read the announcements, a great many people, apparently throughout the splinters, are growing in excitement about the “idea” of soon being back together in one organization. This much is good, and wonderful to hear. Strangely, some or maybe many of these people are at the same time known to resent me because I have said that their organization will disappear. Think just at the most basic level. Assume for a moment that what I am announcing is true—and it IS TRUE! So obviously, for God’s people to be together, ALL organizations but ONE must “go away,” meaning everyone must leave them to enter that ONE organization—the ONE Church that Christ built. Continue thinking at the most basic level. EVERY splinter leader would support this, but of course only if HE led that one organization.

Notice that he says that ALL of the 600 some splinter groups must ALL disappear and shut their doors so that ALL the COG members can come to the ONE TRUE CHURCH located in Wadsworth, Ohio.

This belief by Dave is about as stupid as his claim that he invented the Plain Truth Newsstand program.

Dave continues with more nonsense:

The question is not what I or any other leader thinks about who will lead God’s Church, but rather what GOD thinks—whom HE has decided is its leader. Think further. No leader, including ME, would ever have any “voice” in this. There is one great clue, however, that can be offered for brethren who believe we will one day be together and who are thinking even a little below the surface about HOW this would be. This includes the obvious steps that must precede the coming together.

First, God has to REVEAL that this coming together will happen—and that HE is going to bring it about. And He must use SOMEONE to announce it. Whom do you think GOD would use to make clear His plan? The answer is obvious: whoever is His CHOSEN LEADER. THIS becomes really the only major point necessary at this time to comprehend the way God would reveal His SUPREME PURPOSE for His Church. Think still further. Would He reveal His plans through a particular man in one organization, and then turn and put all of His people under another man in another organization? OF COURSE NOT. That would make God the author of confusion. Think a final time. Why do no other leaders understand ANY of the awesome and incredibly detailed prophecy that I am about to present—the what, when, where and how this reunification will occur?

Lastly, expect the top leaders of at least the bigger organizations (including YOURS) to resent and attack what they were not shown—and to be angry that I am declaring that they (the top men) will soon be OUT OF BUSINESS and REMOVED FROM POWER—EVERY ONE OF THEM! Repentant ministers and many faithful splinter employees will carry on, serving solely in God’s Church. (A growing number are already contacting us.) All declarations of “support” for and “loyalty” to the top leaders coming from ministers and members in the wake of these announcements will be meaningless, of absolutely no value. This is because they cannot stop what GOD is doing, and will do! By now, you should at least want to know what will be explained. The announcements of coming weeks and months will shock you beyond imagination!

Make no mistake. The last three paragraphs are TRUE! Read them again, this time more carefully.