David C. Pack: The Splinters are Egypt - PERIOD!

Dave writes:

Verses in Haggai 2 reveal more about the prophecy. The remnant now having returned, God is speaking to His people and says, “Be strong, all you people of the land, says the Lord, and work: for I am with you, says the Lord of hosts: according to the word that I covenanted with you when you came out of Egypt, so My Spirit remains AMONG you: fear you not” (Hag. 2:4-5). (Dave then jumps to this conclusion)Verse 6 makes plain this is describing a people at the end of the age, not ancient (or modern) Jews or some group in a church of this world.

Dave again takes scriptures meant for a specific people for a specific time and  says it's all about him and his splinter cult.  What an idiot!

Many pages could describe the parallels between ancient Israel leaving Egypt and God’s people leaving the “Egyptian” splinters. While there are of course differences, the parallels are stunning—and fascinating in regard to what God’s people can expect from their God—Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church—in the manner of how He will work with His final small flock of people to complete such a great end-time Work.

Dave's god certainly is impotent.  Why does it need a little group of people to do the job it should have been doing all along?

First we might ask: Why, in regard to the remnant, would there be IN HAGGAI a reference to Egypt and God’s COVENANT with Israel? Every Christian has heard this many times. God calls Christians out of spiritual Egypt, which is a type of this world. Every year during the Days of Unleavened Bread Christians rehearse their coming out of Egypt. Accept it or not, those outside God’s one Church are in the world. Having adopted numerous false doctrines, standards and ways that God commands true Christians to reject, this describes the splinters. In the end, there is only God’s Church and the world, also variously described as Babylon, Egypt and the place of dragons. Christians are in one or the other. They cannot be in both and this includes you. The splinters are Egypt—period. God plans to bring His people out of Egypt, reinstate them into His Church, and work with them as He did ancient Israel when they came out of Egypt during the Exodus. This is what He says.

David C. Pack: I, Along With the True Believers Will Soon Hear Christ's Audible Voice

More proof that Dave Pack is having mental issues.  Jesus Christ and/or his god, is going to start soon speaking to Dave and the Restored Church of God.  Dave and his followers will HEAR that voice.  Unconverted losers will be unable to hear that voice though.  Even Herbert Armstrong never made such outlandish statements as this.

Confirmed in Zechariah

Zechariah 6 brings more proof of God using a literal voice, and in a context directly related to the remnant. The word “shall” all through verses 9-15 indicates the events described have not yet happened. Much explanation could be brought to this longer passage, but for now realize that verses 12-13 will carry more meaning when we move to the next subhead:

“Thus speaks the Lord of hosts [to Joshua], saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and He shall grow up out of his place, and He shall build [the Hebrew can also mean repair] the temple of the Lord: even He shall build [again, repair] the temple of the Lord; and He shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon His throne; and He shall be a priest upon His throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both…And they that are far off [Heb. means “long ago, of old, remote in time or space”] shall come [speaking of the returning remnant in context] and build [repair] in the temple of the Lord, and you shall know that the Lord of hosts has sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass, if you will diligently obey the VOICE of the Lord your God” (6:12-13, 15).

A statement by Dave in the following paragraph shows just how theologically bankrupt he really is.  Scripture says that Jesus came to reconcile the entire world back to the Father so that no one should perish.  Davey's god is going to "winnow" out the undesirables from the church.  Quit a contrast between Jesus' word and the word of Dave!

The Hebrew for “voice” is again qol, not dabar or amar. This amplifies Haggai 1:12. In fact, dates in Zechariah show that he foretold how God would use His voice several weeks before Haggai recorded that the people heard it. Get this point. Christ will use His actual voice to get the attention of His sheep. This is what He says, not what I say. But this is no surprise because He says that He will do this at times. And He has done it periodically. Christ will winnow out those who do not belong in His Church. He certainly will not speak to those who do not have His Spirit about coming back to a Temple of which they have never been a part—hence WHY some will not hear the voice and others will. Because people once attended the Worldwide Church of God or today are attending your splinter is not relevant. Having God’s Spirit is relevant. Prophecy reveals that probably most will hear Christ’s voice and make the right decision. But others will not obey what they hear and Zechariah 11:10-11 explains that God will immediately—“in that day”—remove His Spirit and cut them off from Him.

Here is the scripture that Dave IGNORES:

2 Peter 3:9 (NOG) | In Context | Whole Chapter

⁹ The Lord isn’t slow to do what he promised, as some people think. Rather, he is patient for your sake. He doesn’t want to destroy anyone but wants all people to have an opportunity to turn to him and change the way they think and act.

2 Peter 3:9 (NASB) | In Context | Whole Chapter

⁹ The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

2 Peter 3:9 (NCV) | In Context | Whole Chapter

⁹ The Lord is not slow in doing what he promised—the way some people understand slowness. But God is being patient with you. He does not want anyone to be lost, but he wants all people to change their hearts and lives.

2 Peter 3:9 (NET) | In Context | Whole Chapter

⁹ The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some regard slowness, but is being patient toward you, because he does not wish for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

2 Peter 3:9 (NIRV) | In Context | Whole Chapter

⁹ The Lord is not slow to keep his promise. He is not slow in the way some people understand it. He is patient with you. He doesn’t want anyone to be destroyed. Instead, he wants all people to turn away from their sins.

2 Peter 3:9 (NIV) | In Context | Whole Chapter

⁹ The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

2 Peter 3:9 (NIVUK) | In Context | Whole Chapter

⁹ The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

David C. Pack: I WIll Soon Be the Oracle at Wadsworth

Dave is so desperate to grasp at anything that he can use to legitimize himself that he now says he will soon become the OFFICIAL mouthpiece for his god to speak directly through him.

One final Hebrew word in Haggai should be noted: “Then spoke Haggai the Lord’s messenger in the Lord’s message unto the people, saying, I am with you, says the Lord. And the Lord stirred up…the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the Lord of hosts, their God” (1:13-14). “Says” in verse 13 is NOT amar, but rather neum. The word neum can also be translated “an oracle.” God uses this word when He wants to bring special emphasis to a message. Of course the message is that God is now with people who are frightened and who were cut off from Him for a long time, and who have come to see that they were.

David C. Pack: My 'god' Will Soon Use Frightening Miracle To Shock You Losers!

Dave says that his god will soon use "frightening miracles to shock and prepare" the COG members to come over to his church cult.  This is still Dave's threat that three COG leaders will soon be murdered by his god.  As soon as his god does that, his god will END his relationship with the rest of the COG losers who do not come to Dave's superfantabulous church cult.

God initially works with the remnant through His Spirit, but next goes on to actually speak ALOUD to them. Powerful, frightening miracles shock and prepare God’s people to hear His VOICE. (Read Haggai 1:11 slowly, thinking also of Zechariah 11:8.) Other announcements have explained some of this. (Questions arise: Like I Kings 19, will God’s message to them include the identical words of verses 4-11? What other things might God instruct? Who will hear Him? Who won’t? We must wait and see.) The important point is that God’s people obey His VOICE and return to work in His House. This explains the biggest single way that God will reunify His people scattered around the world no matter where they are throughout hundreds of organizations (or at home) and speaking different languages. Recalling earlier announcements, the reader can also better understand why God will end His relationship with those who do not follow Christ’s voice (reread Zechariah 11:10-11) that Haggai says will direct them back to HIS House and HIS Work!

David C. Pack Says My 'god' Will Soon Speak Audibly To A Chosen Few

Dave says only his group has the spirit and can understand what he is saying.  If you cannot understand Dave's rants then his god is not dwelling in you.  All I can say is Thank God for that!  I don't want his god.

At this time, the point should be made that many of you have been listening to God’s Spirit in recent months regarding considering YOUR ways. (And surely none of you have heard a voice.) Many others around you are probably not doing this. Think of it this way. Those without God’s Spirit cannot act on messages through His Spirit. Those who have it can. Only you know what you are understanding and what you are not.

 Dave's god will soon speak audibly to his fledgling group.  Only he and a few chosen will be able to understand and here this god speak.  COG losers will not be able to hear anything.

Haggai 1:12 records a remarkable change in the people. They SUDDENLY act on what they are told. Why?: “Then Zerubbabel…and Joshua…with all the remnant of the people, obeyed the VOICE of the Lord their God, and the words of Haggai the prophet, as the Lord their God had sent him, and the people did fear before [Heb: because of] the Lord.” Get this next point, for it carries enormous meaning. The Hebrew for “voice” is again qol. It is NOT dabar or amar, where God is merely “speaking” or “saying” something—His word—through His Spirit! Remember that qol means, “to call aloud; a voice or sound…noise…thunder (-ing)…yell.” The Hebrew reveals that this is God literally speaking with HIS VOICE! Make no mistake about this. Here is why: Not far down the road, thousands will hear God’s voice, while others will not. God will soon speak audibly to some and not others.

David C. Pack: It's Not My Job To Speculate....Say WHAT??????????????????

Dave is trying so hard to make Hevrew scriptures fit hima nad his little cult today in 2013.  Scriptures written for a specific pepel fo ra psecific time.

Dave states below it is not his job to speculate about who the 7,000 are or where they come from.  If that was true then why is he even opening his mouth about these stupid prophecies  he is uttering?

Kings 19

We start by examining I Kings 19, which provides more clarity about how God will reunify His people. Since He inspired Paul to reference this chapter in Kings in regard to a New Testament remnant—and not Haggai where the word “remnant” is found!—to introduce this NEW Testament group, we should know why. There are reasons Paul spoke off of I Kings 19 and not the book of Haggai. (Only time will tell if the number 7,000—cited in I Kings 19 and Romans 11—has dual meaning for today. It is not my purpose here to speculate on the number God has reserved either in the splinters or at home to bring back to His Church.)

Dave has went from ALL the COG's returning to his church to now less than 7,000 if tehy coem at all.

David C. Pack's 'god' Spoke To Him and Said He Was Special and that October 4 Would Be His Last Announcement

David C Pack's god came to him in another nightmare over a year ago and tole him he and his cult had been "reserved as an end time remnant."  Where have we heard THAT before?????????  That is all any of us who were apart of or are still involved in Armstrongism have heard.  We were special and called out. We were a small flock preserved by God in the end times for a special purpose.  HWA's god spoke that same thing to him just as Dave's god has spoke the same thing to him.

The difference now is that Dave's god said that Dave and his group are soooooooooooooooo special that they are "hidden" in hte midst of the other COG's.  ROTFLMAO!

Remanent of GRACE??????????????????  GRACE???????????????  Um, I don't think so!  You don't even know who Jesus is so how can you know about grace?  Of course Dave is not talking about REAL grace so he has to "ritualized" it away.

The first element involves an Old Testament account in I Kings 19. More than a year ago I learned that God had “reserved” (the word He chose) an end-time “remnant” (again, His word) of His people who were as hidden to those in His Church as the faithful 7,000 in Israel were to Elijah in I Kings 19:18. It was in Romans 11:3-5 that the apostle Paul referenced this New Testament “remnant according to grace”—meaning they were of spiritual Israel, the Church. It was just as obvious through simple study that the remnant of two chapters earlier in Romans 9:27-29 could only be describing those of physical Israel—the surviving descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel that were coming out of captivity. I covered details about God’s remnant in a series of seven sermons late last summer.

Dave now has Set October 4 as his final announcement.  Who wants to place bets that Davey will be back soon after that "spiritualizing" away his latest epic failure?

In early November, I began to learn how God would bring the spiritual remnant back to His Church. This announcement adds more that those who are serious about the prophecy must know. Two vital points will be covered this time, and four more in what will likely be the final announcement, now scheduled for October 4. Realize that what follows is little more than the bare bones of what can be known about verses cited and the Hebrew words that God chose to convey His meaning.