HWA: I Take the Ordinary and Make it Out of the Ordinary Using Psychological Tools

submitted by SHT

Pastor General Report 08/29/80

"To say Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong is NOT a Saint, is kin to the UNPARDONABLE SIN!"

The Kitchen clan have a bizarre posting up on Facebook concerning HWA and the unpardonable sin.

A person that one of the Kitchen's had attempted to "friend" on Facebook rejected his friendship when she found out he was not a Living Church of God member.

She made this comment:

"Mr. Merideth was appointed by the church board members, all ministers. I don't know where you get your info. but you are wrong on more than one count. My. Armstrong was a very good and intelligent man and he loved Father God and he taught others to be the same. He is not a Saint. Nor is He an apostle. He would be the very first to say so. I am sorry you do not understand your Bible better and that you believe without proof in your fellow man."

Her comment above, that HWA was not a saint, sent the Kitchen clan into a pretribulation Laodicean meltdown.

To say Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong is NOT a Saint, is kin to the UNPARDONABLE SIN!
It is saying he had NO HOLY SPIRIT within him, and therefore is NOT a member of the Church, and therefore WILL NOT rise to meet Christ in the air on the last trump of God! And that sentences him to the third resurrection does it not? The Lake of fire?

And to say he is NOT an apostle, and that Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong would be the first to say he is NOT a Saint, and apostle? Read Mr. Armstrong's articles! Listen to his sermons! In his article “How Christ gives Church its beliefs” he specifically says he is an apostle! In the World Tomorrow TV program “The Coming Kingdom” he says to the PUBLIC that he is an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ! He says this numerous times! Yet you say he would admit that he WASN'T ONE? First, perhaps you should consider that you could be wrong or mistaken. Or if you are merely parroting what has been told you by a pastor, maybe you should examine whether such statements is true. They are not. And is very dangerously close to committing the unpardonable sin!

The Kitchen's worship at the altar of HWA like James Malm worships at the altar of the law.  Neither has any idea who Jesus is or what he accomplished.

GOVERNMENT in the ACOGs

GOVERNMENT in the ACOGs

Every form of government the ACOGs have tried has failed.

WCG – top guy changed all the doctrines and kept all the money.

GCG – tried one man with a board that could throw him out. This they did even though 80% of the members disagreed with them. Plus, they kept all the money. Then they went broke because they also had most of the expenses and not enough income. Not as smart as the Tkaches.

LCG – back to one man. One man died. Next one up – unknown at this point.

UCG – council voted on by ministers – still split into 2.

The common denominator is the people – specifically the ministry. Everyone wants to be in charge.

For such a small group of people, we have as many splits (400) as the rest of Christianity combined (400). You would think we would be ashamed. We sing Onward Christian soldier – all one body we – we are 400 bodies. 1 Corinthians 3 blasts all the schisms and points out Christ was crucified for us, not the ministers.

The head of man is Christ – not a minister. The ministry role is to help us, not lord it over us like the worldly rulers do.

In Acts 15, we find James, the brother of Jesus, rendering the final decision – not Peter. After Jesus told the 12 they should not be jockeying for position and they should be servants, not lord it over people like worldly rulers, they finally got the point.

Why can’t we all get along today like the apostolic church did? Instead we have leaders who demand titles – Mr. and Dr. – instead of being brethren, we have the formality of 100 years ago. At every company I have worked for, everyone from CEO down is on a first name basis, and somehow manages to still have respect for one another and the management.

Submitted by TLA

NEW!!! Ezekiel Church of God

NEW!!! Ezekiel Church of God

It has come to my attention as Pastor General and Apostle that there is a grievous mistranslation of our great commission.

Matthew 28:18-20 King James Version (NKJV)
¹⁸ And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.¹⁹ Go^[a]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,²⁰  teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”^[a]Amen.

This should read: Go ye therefore and preach the Ezekiel message and scare the living daylights out of people.

We are changing our name to the Ezekiel Church of God to match our new understanding THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS!!! Brethren, do you REALIZE the ENORMOUS privilege we have to have this UNIQUE understanding.

To get this message out to the world – for the FIRST TIME in over 1900 years, we will need a lot more money. This is your chance brethren to put your shoulders to the work.

Sell all you have and send it in NOW. GREAT will be your REWARD!

Do you want this to happen to your children?

People everywhere will be in fear of the disasters.

We are in the GUN LAP. Time is SHORT. We have only 2 to 3 years to get the message out before the end comes. Don’t risk being in the LAKE OF FIRE!

Send your generous offerings to….

submitted by TLA

A Message from Herbert Armstrong to Bob Thiel

Submitted by SHT

End Time True Church Government Structure Revealed

submitted by Anon

Feast of Tabernacles Butt-numbing Sermons

The Dr. watching Fatima with some Mayan fairies 
fly around him during his sermon

Anyone who has ever attended a large Feast of Tabernacles site will have to acknowledge that at times there were "some" interesting sermons.  But since the mother church imploded and hundreds of harlots daughter churches hit the scene, the large Feast sites have ALL disappeared and are nothing more than memories.

That brings us to 2018 and to the saddest Church of God to ever exist, the improperly named "continuing" Church of God. The prophet Bob Thiel has released two of his sermons on youtube.  Instead of being on one single topic, guru Bob jumps around to scores of different topics in his 1:30 long butt-numbers.

Here are the topic of two of his "sermons:

October 9, 2018

• When Lucifer and the angels were on the Earth, before their fall, did they have any hand in creating the dinosaurs and the prehistorical world?
• What are your thoughts on aliens (from outer space)? Are they demons?
• Might Adam and Eve’s skin tone, etc. have been a mix of races?
• Since we know that the Kingdom of God will continue to expand, will procreation continue somewhere?
• What is Exodus 20:5 teaching?
• What is the ‘general assembly’ in Hebrews 12:23?
• When are people made perfect?
• When will Elijah come?
• How will we know the final Elijah?
• How about swearing by God’s name and Deuteronomy 6:13?
• Can you explain 1 John 3:9?
• Can you explain 1 John 5:7?
• Will the bottomless pit of Revelation 20:3 be in the location of Rome during the millennium?
• What do you think about curse words?
• How does entropy prove God’s existence?
• How many archangels are there?
• Does asking for a 2nd or 3rd anointing show a lack of faith?
• Is Satan destroyed after the millennium?
• God a severe God in the Old Testament, but a merciful God in the New Testament?

October 11, 2018 

In this sermon, Dr. Thiel answers questions that have been submitted to the Church of God on many topics, such as: Is cremation acceptable for Christians? Can you wear garments of mixed fabrics? Does Romans 14:5-6 eliminate Holy Days? How should Christians dress? Is it right to have pictures of Jesus? Does Matthew 27:5 contradict Acts 1:18-19? What happened to Garner Ted Armstrong? Can you use a heart symbol? Should you trust ‘The Urantia Book’? What about dinosaurs and the age of the world? What are the origins of Native Americans, often called Indians? Can you use Proctor and Gamble products? Does 1 Kings 8:9 contradict Hebrews 9:4? Who is the ‘elect lady’ of 2 John 1? Was Abraham a Jew? What is a Hebrew? What was Ambassador Foundation for? Is ‘Amen’ pagan? Dr. Thiel goes through scriptures, facts, COG documents, and historical information to provide answers.

Just like every other splinter group leader out there, Thiel does not have an original thought in his head.  He has to rely upon old Worldwide Church of God Reprint Articles and booklets to fill his mind with.  Can you imagine Herbert Armstrong walking boldly on stage and speaking about hundreds of different topics during one of his sermons?  It never happened!  Instead, we had one topic that was preached incessantly, The Two Trees, week after week, month after month, year after year. With Thiel, he kind of slithers behind the podium and then starts wildly gesturing as he covers hundreds of topics in his hour and a half sermons.

For someone who claims to be the modst important end time prophet the church has ever seen; it needs to be asked, "Did Bob Thiel flunk Spokesman Club?" Has the church ever had such a poor speaker?