"Dave is his own worst enemy. His never-ending and ever-changing prophetic chaos is choking the life out of the brethren who are left."

RCG’s Flat–World Theory

 

David C. Pack reiterates that time is short and the world cannot last one more year. During “The Greatest Untold Story!” Parts 439 and 440 last week, this concept was repeated. If your heart flutters in panic, be advised he has been trumpeting this for over a decade.

 

The Pastor General of The Restored Church of God does not have his finger on the pulse of reality. It is too busy pointing at glassware.

 

He sure loves his theatrics. Boldly proclaiming absolutely definitive statements. Loudly. Presenting perceived certainty. He is the expert on what is impossible, inarguable, and can never move.

 

Well, until it does because he moves it. He argues for what is possible because he had more time to find the hidden verses that appeared in the Bible once the invisible ink wore off.

 

Then, his sheepish alter ego steps up to the plate, pushing all the other mumbling voices out of the way to poke his head out of the sand to hesitantly stumble through an obligatory ‘pology.

 

David C. Pack broadcasts who and what he is to the RCG brethren. The content of his character is on full display. The wise among the RCG members take note and take action.

 

 

Reviewing my notes again after the heart-felt ‘pology revealed just how excuse-laden that message was. Including these extra gems felt like kicking someone already down.

 

After a good night’s sleep, my leg felt rested.

 

Part 439 – May 2, 2023

@ 1:03:08 It doesn’t absolutely even say all of them die. It looks like the pronouns suggest they do because, wow, I mean, look at this stuff. Look at the way they talked. Look at the way they act.

 

@ 1:09:14 I finally understood this. Wow. Look at this. This’ll tell ya about God. He just suddenly. When God’s gonna remove the mystery, then He’s gotta show me things. Things I read right past for decades.

 

When Dave makes an excuse, his grammar skills sometimes take a nosedive.

 

@ 1:13:49 But, God says, relatively speaking, ready? Relatively speaking, all Israel will be saved. That’s different than what–I often saw that verse.

 

In Part 440, errors are addressed like he is confessing a fault. But in Dave’s mind, mistakes are admitted with a humble attitude because he is “too” whatever. He works too hard. He cares too much.

 

Part 400 – May 3, 2023

@ 29:41 So, I probably made too much of it as I was learning about these Kingdoms. I didn’t know what I was dealing with here with these four kingdoms.

 

@ 32:02 So, some of that, maybe I searched a little too hard to figure it out.

 

He talks too much. The Series is too long. The enablers fear him too much. The brethren give him too much leniency. He is too full of himself. He is too wrong, too often, too many times to be legitimate.

 

 

Those who thought Pentecost would be a pivotal moment in the Kingdom structure need to get with the program. That was so five days ago. Literally, five days passed between Part 438 and 439.

 

See if you can spot the bait-and-switch approach. Part 439 was the bait. Part 440 was the switch.

 

Part 439 – May 2, 2023

@ 1:01:28 Well, over the next months, we're gonna have new moons. We're gonna have a whole bunch of sabbaths. We’re gonna have Pentecost together. There’s no way I can imagine, can’t even fathom we can get past Pentecost…Maybe the second Passover, which starts in a few days.

 

Part 440 – May 3, 2023

@ 1:13:24 Let me tell you why Pentecost, Pentecost could never be, could never be the start of the Kingdom of God. I’m gonna explain why it’s impossible.

 

This is funny because Dave must have stumbled across his forgotten notes from Part 253.

 

Flashback Part 253 – May 26, 2020

@ 1:54:28 Let me tell you what God would never do. He would never arrive on Pentecost. Never.

 

Or maybe he read the article from last week when I reminded his cronies about it.

 

Part 440 – May 3, 2023

@ 1:13:34 I wish I’d thought about this in the past.

 

Brad should put me back on the payroll. Or he should slip a 3x5 card into Dave’s briefcase advising him to listen to Parts 253, 254, and 269. Remembering the past diminishes making mistakes in the future.

 

Perhaps there are other things Dave already said that he now wishes he had thought about before. I realize that sentence is a paradox.

 

@ 1:13:38 Once you know there’s one year between iterations of the Kingdom, you’ll understand. To understand that is to know that it is impossible that we go from one Pentecost to another Pentecost.

 

Pentecost is the only Holy Day based on a count, not a set date. And Dave just realized that last night.

 

There are now more “reasons” why it does not work for Dave’s version of thinking. Remember that for next year. He needs to stop recycling the same days every year. It is beyond boring already.

 

@ 1:13:54 …because Pentecost had an attraction to it.

 

@ 1:16:03 Impossible. It took me a while to understand that. So, get out of your mind that Pentecost could ever, ever be the beginning of the Kingdom of God.

 

Dave will find a way next year. You can count on that. Pun intended.

 

 

Things must be souring in The Restored Church of God for David C. Pack to bring up church growth. Not only did he bring it up, but he followed up and then dwelled on it.

 

Part 438 – April 27, 2023

@ 1:48:50 Lemme tell ya another reason why I don’t see how we could have another year. We’re living in a society (I now know) so perverse and growing worse, I understand why for us to just sorta stay flat in our growth is difficult. Two-thirds of them wouldn’t respond if there was a kingdom and they heard a giant voice around the world.

 

@ 1:49:37 Ten, fifteen years ago, we'd have two, three families with two, three, four kids come with us. Sometimes in a day. But now, you never see families anymore. People don’t want children. They celebrate not having children.

 

The reasons families do not come to RCG is because of selfish cultural attitudes? That logic is broken. If parents have children, they are a family. Some not wanting children has nothing to do with those who do and stay away from RCG. That theory about being sorta flat is faulty.

 

World conditions are tanking RCG’s ability to grow. Apparently. I spent years at Headquarters watching it shrink. This was after The Night of Long Knives period in 2014 when the Campus buildings were mainly completed. Dave initiated a “house-clearing” of members involved in the construction efforts. Lay members and ministers left a lot of blood on the tile during that time.

 

Carl Houk’s family was the biggest addition to Headquarters during my entire time there. Some people were shipped in from the field when Wadsworth grew thin. Local individuals floated in and out. One guy kept coming to Sabbath Services with his Bible in a Ziploc. I knew he was not a long-hauler.

 

Overall, Headquarters would “sorta stay flat” until someone was poached from a field area and inserted. A few others would marry in. But, all I ever heard from the lectern was how “the Work is booming.” Flat growth was NEVER a part of the RCG language. They must have kept that hidden.

 

 

It seemed like this topic was exhausted until Dave had more time to stew in it.

 

Part 440 – May 3, 2023

@ 04:37 Now, we tried to carry out the Work in this environment…we try to do the Work.

 

I wonder what “Work” Dave is talking about. As he later admits, there is no new literature, and what is on the website is outdated. He has not released a new The World to Come since December 2017. Despite the appealing graphical upgrades to their social media posts, no cohesive campaign is taking the world by storm. The sermon media department person has released two new videos in the past twelve months.

 

The Restored Church of God has become a David C. Pack Sermon Production operation. Tithes, offerings, and donations pay Dave to sit and talk so he can pay the staff to sit and listen.

 

That is their primary focus. That is their primary effort.

 

“The Greatest Unending Story!” IS “the Work”

of The Restored Church of God.

 

You fool yourself by thinking otherwise.

 

To be fair, when Dave says “the Work,” maybe he meant the efforts to suck Common out of new people who stumble across the website. New First Love funds keep the Campus on life-support.

@ 04:50 I remember when we would get 1-2-3 families every day come with us. Not even all stay, but they would come with us….Now we're lucky if we can get a handful of actual families: husband, wife, and children each year. And it even affects the overall growth and environment of the church as the older people leave…It even impacts the warmth and the natural kind of love and brotherly love, of course, love of God, too, in the church.

 

Whether the elderly die or stay, “love” has waxed cold in RCG. It is a repeated theme pointed out by those who have left. Jessica Brown wrote a touching article on this very topic.

 

The lack of love. The abundance of fear. That is the climate of The Restored Church of God.

 

@ 05:32 Now, we're very faithful. We're not Splinters. We're not wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked, or anything like that. But, I'm just saying it affects us as the older people keep dying at an ever faster rate among us.

 

Listening to Dave whistle a new tune every time he talks for five or six hours a week cannot help anyone's health when you needlessly add stress, confusion, and frustration to the experience.

 

@ 05:47 And the worse it gets in the world, the more attractive the devil's world becomes to people. And that's why I've explained a lot of our young people want the devil's world, the worse it is. So it's very difficult to grow. It's very difficult for us to grow. This kind of trend would deeply affect our ability to function in just the next one year, should time continue.

 

This should be a rude wake-up call for RCG brethren. As admitted by the Pastor General, the outlook for next year is not good. Since time will continue no matter how Dave reinvents the wheel, the “ability to function” should be a concern.

 

@ 06:20 It's very difficult to find people out there who are candidates to be Called in this life. 

 

@ 06:44 So we're trying to function at a time when, you know, just hopefully, the attractiveness of the Truth will bring people with us. And in this vile generation, that just isn't enough.

 

He persists with his "flat growth is the world's fault" theory. The people are too rotten for God to work with. There is no other possible answer. Is there?

 

 

After ten minutes of world news brought to by Oh Noes!, Dave circles around to flat growth.

@ 16:28 We grew consistently at 20% up until 10 years ago. Since then, we struggle to stay flat.

 

I wonder what catastrophic event happened to RCG in 2013.

 

@ 17:29 We're the only True Church on earth. And we're small. And we're not getting bigger. We're just staying pretty much flat. Up a little bit one year, down a little bit. Sometimes a little better or a little worse. It just, that's pretty much where we are.

 

My seasoned Consulting Former Minister stated, “If Dave is willing to admit flat, it means they are in decline.” Sources confirm that in meetings, Dave will hear the numbers he likes and cannot hear the numbers he does not like. Until it becomes an issue. The flat numbers must be an issue.

 

Flat is just code for a decline in denial.

 

@ 17:47 We fell off a cliff about 10 years ago. And so, there's a reason for that. And I've wrestled with why. Why?

 

Dave’s best theory is to blame world conditions for RCG falling off a cliff ten years ago. If he were a student of his own history, it would not be a mystery.

 

God’s People Back Together—SOON!

 

Due to the technological marvel known as the Internet Archive Wayback Machine, anyone interested can read the original article released on March 15, 2013.

Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013

New Article: “God’s People Back Together—SOON!”

 

Announced earlier, the most important and conclusive article I have written to the Worldwide Church of God splinters has been posted! I promise this will be the single most crucial one you will ever read. If you do not read it all, it will be the worst decision you have made since God called you. Believe this!

 

If there were just one book or article I have written that you could be compelled to read, this would be it. Start it, and you will almost certainly go on to read (and study) it multiple times!

 

God wants His people together. A detailed and powerful prophecy reveals that He is planning to bring it about. This article introduces how and why God’s people—every last one—will SOON be back together!

 

David C. Pack

 

This was the first of twenty-five very public Friday updates that lasted for months. The Final Announcement on August 2, 2013, failed to inspire mass defections and Laodicean repentance from members of UCG, COGwa, PCG, and LCG.

 

The brethren of The Restored Church of God were left alone to be quietly embarrassed by the first and biggest prophetic failure of David C. Pack’s career. As the Bible points out, the first one is make-or-break.

 

Elul 24

August 30, 2013

 

At sunset on Friday, August 30, 2013, David C. Pack officially became a prophetic fraud. On Thursday before lunch, he tipped off the Headquarters staff that he did not believe anything would happen. We were instructed to tell no one. Spouses who were members were okay, but they were not to share beyond that, as church-wide comments would be made on the Sabbath.

 

Part 440 – May 3, 2023

@ 17:47 We fell off a cliff about 10 years ago. And so, there's a reason for that. And I've wrestled with why. Why?

 

The theory that transgender children are the root problem has flaws. In 2013, David C. Pack publicly outed himself as a false prophet to never again be taken seriously. The ten-year-old cliff is explained at last!

 

 

@ 17:58 Now, part of it is I'm not able to do broadcasts…it does coincide somewhat with my need to kind of huddle up in a closet and figure out what God is gonna do. I got given a charge I never went looking for, and I wouldn't wish on anybody…I think we (maybe) would grow a little bit if I could get back. I can't even find time to write Coworker Letters…I don't see any path to another year for many reasons. And let's see if we can get through what I believe (honestly) is the last message that I will give. If we're here on Sabbath…

 

Time for the lightning round:

 

His sermons ARE the Work of RCG. No broadcasts and no letters are the results. The First and Second Commissions are brushed aside. He will NEVER "figure out what God is gonna do." He will find a path to another year because another year is coming. Part 441 proved this was not (honestly) the last message, and we are still here.

I have begun to post videos of Dave lamenting, “If only I had more time,” so when the anniversary comes around, he can prove himself ad nauseam to be unreliable and untrustworthy. After seven years and six months, he continues to provide even MORE self-condemning proof.

@ 55:02 But if I had time and we went on another year, I would change our literature. I would give graphs and all kinds of things for the brethren to go to…I don't have time. I don't have time to write Member/Coworker Letters. But I would…I'd do telecasts about it. 440'd be the end of the line as far as the Series. But nobody would have any doubt that this is right…I've written 81 books and booklets. I'd certainly write some others and correct what we have. I haven't even had time to go back and fix our literature. I'm sure that isn't helping our growth. As people come and say, "That's not what I heard him say in broadcast number whatever. 126 or something." And I don't have time. I can't fix it. I would if we had more time, but nobody wants that.

 

Only one person at Headquarters remembers how WTC broadcasts were produced. Trust me, that guy sweats a little when Dave threatens to return to the Media Center Studio.

 

Rest easy, buddy. It will not happen.

 

 

David C. Pack’s theory that RCG’s growth is flat due to world conditions falls flat.

 

Things are not rosy outside the window, but that is not what keeps people from beating down his behind-the-closed gate door.

 

Dave is his own worst enemy. His never-ending and ever-changing prophetic chaos is choking the life out of the brethren who are left. He is a walking contradiction sitting in confusion.

 

RCG fell off a cliff ten years ago when David C. Pack proved to the world he was a false prophet. It is too bad his own trajectory in decline can only be seen as being flat.

 

Marc Cebrian

See: RCG’s Flat–World Theory

How God Moved Us Out Of The Church (COGWA)

Why the corporate church is losing its younger members and its long time members:

"Well said! There’s quite a few young adults I know who are growing tired of this. The church is losing young adults and it’s because of things like this. I’ve spoken to ministers about these issues but often times they simply cannot see things through others perspectives."

"This is EVERYTHING my husband and I have been saying!! Thank you for your bravery. Sharing now " 

 

"WOW!! I have been waiting for 20 years for someone to actually have this talk. I decided many years ago, I no longer desired to be a part of any of these groups. I have learned so much from being on the outside looking in on them and never want to be under this kind of control again. A minister is a guide or an example to a church. How can anyone think it is ok to be a part of something that has such control over the congregation. It certainly gives the feel of cult control. As I sit here listening to your video of how you were forced out of COGWA, I can't believe what I am hearing. I am so glad your eyes have been opened and I hope to run into you sometime at a nonspecific church group! Keep opening the eyes and following Gods lead for you!"

"Jesus said that, 'By this will all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." Love is powerful and will draw people. I used to ask, "Where's the love?" Controlling people's minds and lives are not God's way. His way is truth and love and mercy and grace."

"I was in the Armstrong way of teaching for 33 years, although I had gotten saved as a teenager. I didn't even know I was saved. I gave up 3 scholarships to study music because Armstrong's teachings led me to believe that music was an idol and I had to give it up. My dad kicked me out and disowned me and the church people took me in. They told me you had to suffer to build character. Ministers said God is government and we must submit to their heirarchy. It nearly cost me my life, submitting to things that were bad for me. I got to the point where I began to read my bible on my own. Then when I was so sick, some lady came from another church, prayed, laid hands on me and I was suddenly healed. So I visited her church. I had no idea that anyone outside our church knew anything about the bible. I learned about Jesus, my Lord and Savior, and about the Holy Spirit, my teacher, comforter, Helper, etc. I am so glad that God woke me up. Enjoyed your video. Praying for you."

 

Healing an arrogant church

God hates Division - The couple Dave Myers is upset about

 

This guy makes more sense than anything Dave Myers speaks!

This is the couple Dave Myers kicked out of COGWA recently and blamed for causing "division".

Note comments from former COGWA members:

"I love this message! Following Jesus who, as you rightly show, came to cause division. It is what truth does. When presented, truth necessitates a listener to either accept or reject it, hence a division may occur. The problem within most of the COG's is they will not tolerate thinking and communicating members, unless what you think and communicate is totally in line with what they think and communicate and, of course, you must get their permission before you communicate it. This stems from the huge amount of insecurity shrinking membership roles have caused the corporate churches. This causes tighter controls on inter-corporate member fraternization, which in turn causes greater membership shrinkage. It's a vicious cycle which is accelerated by the abuses the ever popular but Biblically questionable, hierarchical government model provides. This sad story is only possible because of two vitamin deficiencies every COG seems plagued by. Vitamin "H" and Vitamin "J". These are the two most important ingredients in any successful church! Can you guess what they are? Yup, you guessed it! Humility and Jesus. :)" 

 

"Honestly this is why we left the cogs .. because I’m not sure they will ever be able to get over the arrogance of what they think is right… long enough to allow someone’s walk to be even remotely unique and reflect their own personal walk with God. They are threatened by the idea of anyone having a different stance on anything. Your intentions are good … but the freedom and peace that has come from moving on to other atmospheres has allowed growth I only wished for. We can pray and hope for unity but it’s definitely a bumpy road to true humility and re learning without the ego on what it means to walk with God."

I find this fascinating that here is a young man and his wife who dare to think for themselves and encourage others to do the same. I may not agree with all he has to say, but this is refreshing that he is doing this. The current corporate Church of God's are fossilized relics still trying to live in the past, The younger members, thanks to the internet, have overturned that broken-down apple cart and are forging ahead.

Corporate COG leaders cannot handle regular members gathering on their own to study the Bible, wrestle with what they read and talk about it WITHOUT a minister present. 99% of the time the conclusions and understanding these people will arrive at are BETTER than anything a corporate COG minister will tell them.

A Response to Dave Myers - Take it to the presbyteros or take it to the ekklesia?

The notion that the congregation should have any input when it comes to choosing their leaders is a completely foreign concept among the COGs, as well as many other Christian denominations that have adopted a strict hierarchical organizational structure. Any suggestion of those within the hierarchy being held accountable by the congregation in any way will naturally be met with strong resistance, and the "authority" of those in leadership positions will be hammered. Those who disagree or question the status quo are viewed as causing division or undermining the authority of those "God" has placed over them.

Exodus 18:13-26 is often freely quoted to back up the idea of this strict hierarchical structure, as well as certain selective passages within the New Testament, such as Paul telling Titus to "appoint elders in every town..." Titus 1:5.

The problem with only going to the above scriptures, however, is that they don't present a complete picture of how leaders or those given certain responsibilities within the congregation were chosen and "appointed" either by Moses in the Old Testament, or among the New Testament congregations. For example, to have a complete picture of how Moses went about the job of appointing leaders among the Israelites, we need to read Deuteronomy 1:9-18.

In carefully reading this passage we see that Moses actually instructed the people to “Choose for yourselves wise, understanding, and respected men from each of your tribes, and I will appoint them as your leaders." (vs.13) We further see that the people openly agreed to having their disputes handled in this way. (vs.14) So, though there was a structure put in place, the people had input in who should be placed within that structure.

We can see the above process echoed in Acts 6:1-7 when the seven were chosen to care for the Greek widows within the congregation in Jerusalem. In reading this passage, we see that all the disciples in the area were gathered to discuss the issue at hand, (vs.2) and they were instructed by the apostles to choose the seven, with the apostles laying out specific qualities they should keep in mind when making their choices. "Therefore, brethren, seek out from among you seven men of good reputation, full of the Holy Spirit and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business..." (vs.3) We also see that the people were happy with this proposal. (vs.5)

As a side note, we also can see from reading further in Acts that those who were chosen to serve in the above capacity were not limited to only serving in that way, with some notably going on to perform miracles and preach the gospel, and Stephen even taking on the Sanhedrin (The Jewish equivalent to a Council of Elders), and unfortunately becoming a martyr as a result. These men served in the ways and capacities they were led by God to serve through the Holy Spirit. This might have ruffled some feathers, but the apostles clearly didn't have any issue with them overstepping their bounds or undermining their "authority." Nor does it say anywhere that the apostles questioned or overruled the choices made by the congregation. The congregation chose the men, and the apostles appointed those who had been chosen, as did Moses.

We could also cite Acts 15: 22-28, where we see that the “whole church” (ekklesia; congregation, assembly) was involved in selecting those who would accompany Paul and Barnabas to Antioch.

“Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to select men from among them to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas called Barsabbas and Silas, two leaders among the brothers…” (vs.22)

As far as the current issue with Dave Meyers post is concerned, I was able to read some of the comments before the post was deleted, as well as some of the comments made on the page of the couple who were put out.

Some of the comments drew attention to the fact that the COGs, in general, do not follow the Biblical procedure as outlined in Matthew 18: 15-17, when handling disputes within the church. Others pointed out passages such as Proverbs 18:17, where we see that it is important to hear both sides of a matter when making a judgment.

The complaint was made that ministers routinely put people out for trivial issues or differences of opinion, rather than for grievous sins, and much of the time these people just disappear with no explanation whatsoever being given to the rest of the congregation, or they are “marked” and the congregation is expected to shun them with no further reasons being given by the ministry, other than they left or were put out, and were “causing division.”

These were no doubt the types of comments Mr. Meyers didn’t like, and why he ended up deleting his original post.

In reading Matthew 18:15-17, we can see that Jesus outlined a specific procedure for handling disputes among brethren within the ekklesia.

1. Go to the person privately and discuss the matter. (vs.15) 2. If that doesn’t resolve the issue, take one or two others along. (vs.16) 3. If that doesn’t work, take it to the church. (ekklesia, or ecclesia)

The problem here is that we have been told that when Jesus says to “take it to the church” He meant to “take it to the minister” and that is how these verses are applied, if they are applied at all. However, if that had truly been what Jesus meant to say, He would have used other words, such as “take it to the presbyteros” (elders) or “take it to the diakonos” (rendered deacon, servant, minister). Instead, He specifically said, “take it to the ekklesia” which is the word He used to delineate the called-out believers who would follow Him, and would include those in leadership positions, but not to the exclusion of the rest of the congregation or body of believers.

It is interesting to note that in ancient culture the term ekklesia didn’t always carry an overtly religious meaning. For instance, the citizens of ancient Greek city-states were called together to form an ekklesia, and this general assembly of citizens performed certain responsibilities within that society.

“The Ekklesia of ancient Athens is particularly well-known. It was the popular assembly, open to all male citizens as soon as they qualified for citizenship.[1] In 594 BC, Solon allowed all Athenian citizens to participate, regardless of class. The assembly was responsible for declaring war, military strategy and electing the strategoi and other officials. It was responsible for nominating and electing magistrates (árchontes), thus indirectly electing the members of the Areopagus. It had the final say on legislation and the right to call magistrates to account after their year of office…” Ecclesia (ancient Greece)

We could surmise then, that the Greeks as well as the Jewish establishment of Jesus’ day would have been familiar with this term in a different context, and Jesus would have no doubt known this when He specifically used this term to describe the “ekklesia” He would build. (Matthew 16:18), or when He outlined the procedure for handling issues that would arise within His body of believers.

Cherry-picking scriptures to the exclusion of others on this issue or imposing a meaning that is foreign to the text itself in order to maintain the status quo, has resulted in an imbalance of governance within the COGs, and has led to an abuse of authority within these groups, as well as others. While we see that there is organization and structure within the body of believers, we can also see that it isn’t without certain checks and balances, when all the scriptures are considered.

Concerned Sister

Dave Pack: "...is incapable of admitting fault in any sincere way without doubling up on excuses, deflection, and blame."

Un-Thankfully Dead

 

David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God passed a major hurdle this week. Ask yourself if it could possibly be just a coincidence.

 

Consider the odds of The Restored Church of God having a 24^th Anniversary on Wednesday and that this self-described “important milestone” occurred in the 390^th week of the Series, which also experienced a full moon, a moed, a chag, the writers’ strike, two second Passovers (one real, one imaginary), Cinco de Mayo, the release of Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, a weekly Sabbath, King Charles III being crowned, the unsealing of Daniel, and Part 440 ending the Series unless we are still here. Could all of that just be a coincidence?

 

Time to shock you. No. It was not a coincidence.

 

It was less than a coincidence. It is a list of random items occurring in the same week that have nothing to do with each other and in no way point to a greater significance because only schizophrenics would think otherwise. No combination of variables will ever help make David C. Pack right.

 

 

“The Greatest Unending Story!” Series allegedly ended this week with Parts 439 and 440. If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

 

But Dave sounded pretty confident. Most of the time.

 

Part 439 – May 2, 2023

@ 00:46 Daniel is now unsealed. Mostly because we found the Sixth Head. A lot of Daniel is about it. Chapters 10, 11, and 12 focus on it. And that had been throwing us off. And until you found this great first head, you certainly couldn’t say the Book of Daniel was unsealed.

 

According to the Bible, the unsealing of Daniel would be a sign of the end. But the visible shivers from the Main Hall audience were due to the frigid temperature, not the shock of prophetic fulfillment.

 

Flashback Part 211 – October 24, 2019

@ 1:05:27 Now, for a truly astounding discovery in one verse. Wow, this one will close out all questions about what this Fire is about…So today and not before today…is Daniel fully unsealed.

 

Flashback Part 273 – December 12, 2020

@ 3:00:33 One thing, time is running out…Daniel was unsealed. I finally understood every element of Daniel this week.

 

Flashback Part 278 – January 7, 2021

@ 53:42 It’s inarguable...That is truly the last jot and tittle of Daniel being unsealed.

 

Flashback Part 284 – January 28, 2021

@ 2:08:00 Anybody who thinks we’re gonna go another thirteen months in this needs to find some other book to study ‘cause there’s no way. There’s no way. So, as of Monday night, the best I can see, Daniel was unsealed…You think it’s a coincidence mid-Shevat? That vision? Jeremiah saw that vision on the middle day of Shevat. It’s today. Unbelievable. The Series ends today.

 

Part 396 – October 1, 2022

@ 1:48:04 We are not seeking the 1335. A hundred billion people will be…And until that’s clear, Daniel isn’t completely unsealed. You gotta get that straight.

 

David C. Pack Unseals Daniel™

Five-Years Running

2019  2020  2021  2022  2023

 

Only fools believe David C. Pack and do so to their own shame.

 

 

Revisiting the recent past helps frame the present to anticipate the future.

Flashback Part 438 – April 27, 2023

@ 1:07:23 If your relatives are dead, thank God every day that your relatives are dead…everybody who’s shot and killed in this world right now…drop to your knees and thank God they were killed.

 

Listening to and believing David C. Pack is now a requirement for salvation. That puts pressure on the brethren. This means at least some in RCG followed his command. We could all hope that none did, but since critical thinking and rational thought are fled away, the best outcome would be very few took him seriously. But even one is too many.

 

Those same people who thanked God for murder must have been mortified and ashamed when they learned five days later during Part 439 that this was a “misunderstood” element of God’s plan.

 

As it turns out, 5.2 billion people, including unconverted family and friends, will no longer die the second death in August. This was just another understandable mistake from the Pastor General.

 

This is a profoundly substantial change that affects the brethren directly. In David C. Pack’s typical cowardly fashion, he chose not to lead with this nor make it too plain. He let members stew on that understanding for another forty minutes until he was ready to draw out piecemeal excuses.

 

The villainy of David C. Pack is not from what he taught from the Bible or how he taught it. The indifferent wickedness comes from the injection of personal attitudes that do not originate from the Holy Spirit or the examples of Jesus Christ. Being thankful for murder is not of God. Satan is thankful for murder.

 

How many RCG mothers lost sleep worrying about their unbelieving children during the five nights before this message? How many brethren watched their spouse quietly tormented over the idea of them being slaughtered in the next four months?

 

 

Dave is guilty, and he knows he is guilty. The meandering roundabout is filled with his “tells.” It would be fascinating for a mental clinician to analyze him.

 

Dave spends 42 minutes in Part 439 dismantling Part 438. Half of the entire Series is just Dave reversing the other half. This is a prime example.

 

Part 439 – May 2, 2023

@ 40:12 One of the greatest things I discovered in the last few days because there was some things that just bothered me terribly about the outcome for some people here [shot glass]. I had to start looking. And I foundthat vastly more people enter the Family of God under the God who says, "I'm not willing that any should perish, and I would have all men to be saved.” I learned more about that God in the last few days than maybe in the time God called me. The numbers who make it are way bigger than WE thought. And I wanna correct that today.

 

Tell: “bothered me terribly”

 

The uncomfortable feeling is back. He is just like the brethren because he was equally disturbed by what they heard. He is on their side. This is psychological manipulation. He endears himself to them to soften the blame to come.

 

Tell: “I had to start looking”

 

The facts were so hard to hear that he went above and beyond by getting clarification to prove all things.

 

Tell: “I learned more about God”

 

He is learning alongside the brethren and is not to blame. There is a bright side to falsely proclaiming the final death of 5.2 billion people because Dave better understood God. “All things work for good,” as some like to misquote.

 

Tell: “than WE thought”

 

He is along for the ride on the same bus the brethren are. Dave does not conjure these ideas on his own. The entire Headquarters ministry shares the responsibility for what is fed to the sheep.

 

Tell: “I wanna correct”

 

He did not get it wrong. He is simply correcting a teaching that bothered him, so he went investigating. In doing so, it brought him closer to God because the church collectively misunderstood what is now understood as God always intended. As the leader of the church, he wants to fix it.

 

 

Flashback Part 438 – April 27, 2023

@ 1:04:11 So, let’s just say this plainly…two-thirds of eight billion people alive today will be destroyed forever. They will be burned in the second death…there’s no arguing with that.

 

David C. Pack argues that during Part 439, for half of the duration. He begins with a winding road of statistics and verses about children that tugs on the heartstrings to soften the audience.

 

Part 439 – May 2, 2023

@ 45:30 Half made it. There’s no other math. It’s half made it of this generation. That’s the first piece of wonderful good news here [shot glass]. Half made it. The children weren’t in play.

 

Five days earlier, Dave taught about a god that kills billions of children too young to be baptized but old enough to be destroyed forever. That flip-flop sounds a little more grand than “something we missed.”

 

@ 46:50 But now we gotta find out (in a minute) whether or not the people who died here [shot glass] really did get wiped out the way so many verses seemed to say.

 

Tell: “verses seemed to say”

 

When it suits his need, “the Bible is hard” excuse comes into play. God's word tricked him. This is the problem with non-spirit-led inspired preaching. Private interpretation runs amuck.

 

@ 47:00 Right up until I found key verses, I had never seen.

 

I laughed out loud. Verses he had never seen? Yet, he found them? Are you kidding, Dave?

 

Flashback Part 402 – October 25, 2022

@ 1:29:01 But, I know the Bible pretty well…I can practically recite the Book of Revelation and whole swaths of the prophets in my sleep. But I don't even have to be awake, and I know them. I can just do that.

 

Flashback Part 3 – November 28, 2015

@ 48:40 I’ve been studying God’s word for almost 50 years. And I’ve studied prophecy (I know this) like no man who’s ever lived.

 

Flashback Part 180 – June 16, 2019

@ 1:17:17 These are mysteries. Nobody understood any of this…I mean, I feel like I could write a new King James Bible better…

 

It is hard to believe this is the same guy. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

 

Tell “verses I had never seen”

 

It is hard to know whether this is a self-insulating delusion or an intentional lie. You cannot be sure with Dave. If pets were allowed at Headquarters, he could claim the dog ate that page of his Bible.

 

Tell “I found key verses”

 

Look at how his efforts pay off. WE thought, but I found. He was not concerned with giving God any credit for the discovery that changed everything about the Kingdom plan that spared 5.2 billion people from eternal death. The work of one man did that.

 

How exactly did he find the key verses? The naked Bible elves snuck into Dave’s bedroom in the middle of the night to leave new shoes on the bench and then sprinkled a few new verses into his Bible on the way out the window.

 

 

While in the midst of reversing his grievous error, Dave could not help but get defensive about anticipated enemies throwing rotten cabbage at his face.

 

@ 47:10 Now, the mockers might say, “This is taking too long.” And dudn’t look like it ends well for them. Permanently. There are people who fall and never rise again. They’re cut through to the head. They’re just committed idolaters...they die root and branch. You know that. Haters of the Lord.

 

David C. Pack is warning the members of RCG here. He ties it into prophecy a sentence later, but his original target is everyone looking right at him. His point is loud and clear:

 

Mock me, and you will die forever.

 

This is a self-preservation kneejerk reaction he cannot contain. How prickly does one have to be to remind people about eternal damnation while defending himself against potential critics?

 

David C. Pack:

Supremely Arrogant. Supremely Insecure.™

 

As with many things Dave, “taking too long” is not the issue. “Getting it right” is. Which he cannot seem to do. Nor will he ever be able to do. The man is permanently disqualified.

 

 

@ 50:50 Now, I’ve wrestled terribly. Terribly. I mean, I'm a shepherd. The hardest thing I had to deal with, and I ‘pologize (in a way) because I’ve been gone different places that there’re so many verses that talk about God’s wrath on certain people. They fall and never rise again.

 

Tell: “I ‘pologize in a way”

 

Therapists and body language experts would have a better analysis when someone cannot say an entire word as a defense mechanism. The fact Dave could not bring himself to clearly say “apologize” is significant when you compound it with the defusing qualifier “in a way.”

 

There is also a notable pause between “I” and “’pologize” as if to subconsciously create separation. The looking down. The fiddling. The quiet hesitation. This indicates that this is neither a sincere apology nor even considered a complete one from the mouth that spoke it.

 

After teaching members of RCG wrongly that 5.2 billion people will die forever in August and their own family and friends may fall victim to this, this is as remorseful as the man can be. I hope the brethren still attending The Restored Church of God noticed this.

 

David C. Pack shows people who and what he is.

 

This ‘pology with excuses is followed by a quick reminder of who should be feared.

 

@ 51:08 Acts 3:23, you know. Those who refuse to obey {me} Elijah are destroyed from among the people. They’re destroyed…it looks conclusive. And for some, it is.

 

Refuse to obey David C. Pack, and you will be destroyed forever. It is a point worth making twice.

 

 

Dave manages to squeak out another admission.

 

@ 1:12:34 So, I had that wrong.

 

This is a big step out into the light for him. “I,” not “we.” “Wrong,” not “misunderstood.” This is the bare minimum unworthy of a gold star on his chart.

 

It is unwise to present drastic, sweeping changes as drastic, sweeping changes. Nudge. Sprinkle. Meander. Drop a hint. Nudge. Sprinkle. Meander. Drop a hint. After a half-hour of warm-up, he was limber enough to cut loose.

 

@ 1:13:20 If your children hafta go through certain in things, well then, then they do. But they're not out of God's great salvation game. If you wanna put it that way.

 

Finally. 33 minutes into his doctrinal reconstruction, Dave acknowledges that the brethren have a personal stake in this understanding. The only thing I can think of as to why he did not lead with that 73 minutes ago is that it would have made him look bad. He had to ease the brethren into reversing his errors they had believed five days before.

 

During Part 439, David C. Pack eventually defused the panic some members had over losing their loved ones to eternal death in a few months. Showing what kind of heart this shepherd has, he humbled himself in front of the whole church.

 

I ‘pologize in a way. So, I had that wrong.

 

That is the extent of his contrition.

 

David C. Pack, the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God, is uninterested and incapable of coming close to perceiving this concept:

 

Brethren, I am so very sorry for putting some of you through an emotional rollercoaster the past five days. I over-read and misapplied verses to mean what they never said. I needlessly troubled you, and I apologize. I can understand that it must have been a sore trial as you considered the horrific fate of your family. I deeply regret the heartache and turmoil I am directly responsible for. Please forgive me for filtering God’s pure word through my corrupted lens of private interpretation. Once again, my arrogance has gotten the better of me. And it hurt you in the process. That is all on me.

 

Please also forgive me for instructing you to get on your knees before God to thank Him for the murder of others. That is far removed from what the Bible and our Savior Jesus Christ instruct. I am deeply ashamed of the foolish words I spoke, disregarding how they may affect you. And a very special "I'm sorry" to those in RCG who have recently lost someone close. I did not consider for a single moment how my ignorant ranting might compound your grief by telling you to be thankful for their passing.

 

To think I said all of these things while speaking on God’s authority and in His Name fills me with such a tremendous shame that I cannot bear to look any of you in the eye.

 

I will never do any of that ever again. You have my solemn promise as a man. I hope that as your Pastor General if I ever violate any of my promises to you before God, I will be held accountable for every word that falls from my mouth. The men around me have a duty to address this because God is their ultimate authority, not me. As brethren, God also empowers you to take action against false teachers in your midst.

 

If I have lost your confidence in me and proven myself to be a blaspheming liar, all of you have a biblical responsibility to treat me as such. I am sorry. Please forgive me.

 

David C. Pack will never utter such words. It is not in his nature to have empathy. It is not in his nature to humble himself before others. He is incapable of admitting fault in any sincere way without doubling up on excuses, deflection, and blame.

 

That is the Pastor General of The Restored Church of God.

 

It is now okay to go back to not being thankful for death and murder.

Marc Cebrain

See: Un-Thankfully Dead