The Stephen Allwine Story is Preposterous and an Attack on God's Chosen People....

Just when you think Armstrongites can't get any crazier.  A Church of Malm member writes:

With regards to Stephen Allwine, I would like to ask that the members of this site pray that the whole truth of this matter is revealed.

After reading accounts of what evidence was reported, I am left with the distinct feeling that the story is preposterous and an attack on all God’s people. This story from the the Twin Cities is getting coverage nationwide.

None of what has been reported makes any sense, and there are more questions than answers.

Why would an IT professional use a site that was recently famous for it’s database being hacked for user information?

Why would someone spend so much time to seek an assassin for hire only to commit the murder in such a careless way making it certain to be caught?

Why bother with the memory loss drug when the object was to kill the person?

We know the congregation will come under extreme persecution soon, and framing the brethren is not out of the question.

Dave Pack: The Kingdom of God is HERE! You Will See A pillar Of Fire Here!

The narcissistic Wonder Boy in Wadsworth is going to make sure that those that don't want to listen to his superfantabulus  message WON'T hear it!    Dave feels that his message about the kingdom of heaven is so mind boggling that it is going to cause thousands and thousands of COG members in various splinter groups to suddenly throw off the mantles of their various church leaders and stream into the Restored Church of God.

Sadly though, Dave knows he has detractors out there that refuse to listen to and understand his mind numbing series of sermons (at 59 online now.)  The eyes if these detractors are clenched firmly shut so Dave, in fit of anger, is going to make sure they do not hear his message.

We are going to run into enemies going forward. They close their eyes and they’re clenched as tight as people clench their teeth. They don’t want to know, so Christ in effect says…they don’t want to know, so I’m going to make sure they don’t. These things are hidden from them; they are given to the Church. They will not be allowed to know, including even reading simple parables where anybody who stops and thinks should be able to say, wait a minute…a grain of mustard seed…You know, anybody can look up on the Internet and see that picture I showed you. They can read…Wait a minute…concealed it…Wait a minute, you’ve got to find it—got to find it—the field or a pearl—but they don’t. They just don’t. People don’t really read much of any of the Bible with understanding unless God calls them.

Just like the Gnostic's, Dave has received hidden knowledge that he showers the mindless rabble with  a bit at a time.  So just what is that hidden knowledge?

The Kingdom of God is HERE!  In Wadsworth no less!

Now you better understand, brethren around the world, THIS IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD! We’re not announcing it’s coming—we are announcing it’s here—and anybody can come in. It’s harder early on, but great numbers…They’re going to see a column of fire here—they are going to see walls that are impenetrable—they are going to see awesome, powerful miracles—they’re going to learn about there was a resurrection of the dead and mass healing, and all kinds of things…“I want that!” That’s what they are going to say, but the pressure…you know, persecution…or the cares of this life, the cares of the world because it’s still the devil’s world, are going to take some of them out.

And it is just our luck that Dave and his crew of misfits will be our judge!

But a loving God wants to see whosoever will call on the name of the Lord—he’ll be saved. It will still be, in a way, after that—but “you don’t have to obey Me until I say, ‘Oh, now you do. Billions of you—now you do.’” Every nation of the world—boom! And He throws down the governments of the world, and we go into resplendence. We’re the new judges. We’re the new world leaders after three-and-a-half years of confirming the promises to Judah and Israel, and offering and sowing seed in all nations of the world, and there will be people from all nations of the world that respond. That’s why, when the sheep and the goats are described in Matthew 25, it says He gathered before Him all nations. Do you know why all nations? Because the Kingdom had converts in all nations of the world and sadly some are goats; some are sheep…and some came out of the ground, and we’ll explain that at another point.  

Remember though this is the first kingdom or  dominion that Dave keeps talking about.  That is why there will be tares in the midst of Dave's kingdom.  Those damn unconverted  goats will be running around trying to disrupt Dave's kingdom, but they will have no power over Dave and crew, just those unlucky fellow COG members who did not really believe Dave.

At this point Dave's god will take that pillar of fire and burn those deceived cantankerous COG members to a crisp.  After this divine BBQ, a new temple will be built in Jerusalem where Dave will be the first to walk up its steps and great his god.

Dave then gets to another point where his god plays a great cosmic trick on thousands of deceased COG members whom will resurrected by his god.  These former COG members who will think they are in the kingdom of God, however they will be in Dave's first dominion  because the other kingdom has not yet come.  Imagine having to spend 1,000 years ruled by Dave BEFORE you can ever make it into God's kingdom!  Hell on earth!

But here is a greater proof…here is the next proof that accompanies that…For decades, thousands and thousands of people in the Philadelphian era that I knew well…pastored many of them…thousands and thousands of people…They’re all coming out of the grave believing they’re in the Kingdom of God. Do you want to tell them they’re not? Do you see? That would be almost…It would be almost like Mr. Armstrong taught false advertising—that I did—that every one of us—that everything we preached at every funeral, everything we said to people as they read the literature…

The resurrection of the dead is into the Kingdom—they all died believing that and they come back and find out they are not in the Kingdom…They didn’t enter the joy of the Lord, but they’ve got another work to do…They’re going to say “I did that! Wait a minute! Well, okay, I’ll do it again, but that’s not what I was taught.” It’s almost as though, for it not to be the Kingdom…Thousands and thousands of people coming out of boxes under stones would come up, and you know what they would feel? They would feel lied to. You need to think about that. It absolutely is the Kingdom of God, but they are going to find out it started differently than they thought.

Dave and his crew will have to spend a long time trying to convince all these deceased members that they are in his kingdom and not in the Kingdom of God.  What a pisser that will be, but not for long!

When these former members are told they will get to rule over millions of people they will be soooooooo excited.  It is better to rule millions than it will be to rule a few thousands who survive the slaughter fest before the Kingdom of God really comes.

But when they find out they’re rulers and leaders in it, they’re going to say, “Great! What do I have to do? I’m in the Kingdom. I’ve achieved salvation.” They might be a little more excited knowing there are billions of people that they can work with, as opposed to a few millions who survived going into the 1,000 years. I mean it’s really…it’s going to be a shock to find out the Kingdom is much smaller but the mission field—which is the world—is infinitely bigger than they might have thought, if they thought maybe there’s only ten percent of the whole world surviving—which is what we used to think…They will be absolutely thrilled—it’s a few ten thousands leading billions—and they’re in. They’ll be thrilled to death.

Isn't it wonderful to be a Church of God member and know this secret knowledge!

Gerald Flurry/Philadelphia Church of God: Can they truly be this STUPID?????

Get a load of this comment that came in on another thread.  Can Gerald Flurry and the Philadelphia Church of God truly be this stupid?  If it really were true, would it be such a bad thing to chase Six Pack Flurry out of the country?  Send him to England where they will accept him with open arms!   NOT!!!!!

Yes i was told this as well that they were having a worldwide fast to increase the membership to bring in more money. Yet they keep having these concerts to promote Malone's so called genius and his wife's screeches which they praise to high hills and back. And yet they keep begging the members for more money. I heard that 51% of the church is seniors who are not forced to tithe on fixed income but have been encouraged to work if they are able. They also want members to do more fundraisers. Supposedly in a member/co-worker letter sent out in November he wrote that Obama was only the political Antiochus and that Trump is the modern day Jeroboam who will work with Joe Tkach Jr. The modern day Amaziah priest to chase the PCG OUT OF THE USA and so they will end up in Petra. The members thought Obama was the Jeroboam type as well but when Trump won the election Flurry had new revelation. So now they say Trump will be the last president. 

Ambassador Report Event In Las Vegas

Ambassador Report Announcement: 

Five original publishers/editors of Ambassador Report (AR) are holding an all-day event at The Orleans Hotel in Las Vegas, March 16, 2017.  The event will be held on the day the combined three-campus Ambassador College Reunion ends.  For the first time the surviving principals of the AR will reveal the behind-the-scenes untold inside story of the making of the AR.  For information about attending click here.

Invitational Ambassador Report Private Party, March 16, 2017

Bill Hughes, Jim Lea, Len Zola (509) 342-9040

Liberty_without_Coercion@Juno.com

Welcome to the first Invitational Ambassador Report Private P

arty! Roughly speaking this will

be the 40

th

anniversary of

Ambassador Report

(AR). The first three magazine issues were

published in 1976, 1977, and 1978. It

's

been great fun and my pleasure to speak with every one

of you during verbal invitations this year.

Over these many decades we publishers, friends, and contributo

rs to the AR have enjoyed annual

and biannual gatherings in our homes reminiscing about our

experiences during the bittersweet

days ofwouldhavliked to

have been a fly on the wall at our staff and friends AR

parties over these many years. No doubt

they would have had a great time!" 

RUMPUS Interviews Jerald Walker

Jerald Walker grew up believing the world would end when he was twelve. His parents—both blind—had joined the Worldwide Church of God at its height in the 1960s. The Church would later prove to be a fraud, its leader collecting hefty dues from its parishioners and using them to fund a lavish celebrity lifestyle. But before Jerald Walker understood this, he came of age believing that The Great Tribulation would transform him, his family, and all believers into gods, and that his parents’ sight would be restored, and so for years, the stringent rules and deprivations within the Worldwide Church of God seemed worth it. When the Great Tribulation did not come, and the family’s faith began to unravel, Walker was left with a life that had no order. The World in Flames: A Black Boyhood in a White Supremacist Doomsday Cult is the story of Walker’s childhood journey through believing, ending in the realization that he will now have to erect an understanding of life from the ground up.

The World in Flames is as hilarious as it is harrowing. Walker’s accounts align so faithfully with his childhood point of view that the reader can see how he managed to believe that a dog bite was a direct punishment from God for wanting to celebrate Christmas, or that “integration”—something the Church forbade—was as bad a sin as “fornication.” And oh, yes, the Church preached slavery as ordained by God, and supported racial separation. How does the black Walker family make sense of that? The dissonance between what young Jerald understands, and what we know he understands later in life, creates instant comic friction.

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Rumpus: Your childhood religion was the Worldwide Church of God. Can you tell readers unfamiliar with the Worldwide Church of God what it was all about? Is it still around?

Walker: The Worldwide Church of God was founded by a man named Herbert W. Armstrong in 1933. At the height of its success in the 1970s, it had a membership of over a hundred thousand and annual revenues of eighty million dollars, more than Billy Graham and Oral Roberts combined. Composed of a hodgepodge of religious beliefs, including Levitical dietary restrictions, the observance of “Holy Days,” literal Sabbath-keeping, and the rejection of medical treatment, the underpinning tenet was British-Israelism: the view that Western and Northern Europeans, as direct lineal descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, was God’s chosen race. The membership was ruled by fear, intimidation, and threats, such as the assertion that anyone who dared leave the church would endure hardship for the remainder of this life, and eternal suffering in the next. And the next life, according to Armstrong, would arrive in 1975, three years after the start of The Great Tribulation.

When Armstrong died in 1986, leadership of the church fell to Joseph Tkach Jr., who began to move the church away from Armstrong’s teachings to mainstream Christianity. The name of the church was changed to Grace Communion International, and ultimately Armstrong was declared a “heretic” and “false prophet.” Needless to say, many members rejected these changes, and a dozen or so splinter groups formed, some of which adhere to Armstrong’s original teachings.

Rumpus: One thing that differentiates your experience from the experience of a childhood in some other extreme religious communities is that the reader gets hints throughout the book that this religion is not just restrictive and fear-inspiring, but might also be an enormous monetary scam. You and others who grew up within the church and later left it had to come to grips with reevaluating pretty much everything that had previously ordered your life, including the possibility that you and your entire family had been taken advantage of. What role did writing play, if any, in your process of understanding the world after your youth? When did you realize you would be a writer, and when did you realize you would write about your childhood in the form of memoir?

Walker: Writing helps me to understand most everything; in a very real sense it’s how I process my world. My view prior to writing the memoir was that my parents’ decision to join a church run by a con man was inexcusable, and I harbored a bitterness toward them about it that lasted for decades. And so when I began writing the book, I knew there was a real possibility that this bitterness would taint, if not largely shape, the narrative. But I also knew that something else could happen, because for me the process of writing is the process of thinking and learning, of acquiring knowledge more than dispensing it. I wasn’t entirely surprised, then, that by the time I’d completed the book, my bitterness toward my parents had given way to sympathy, understanding, and a deepened respect.

Though I’d been writing stories since I was a child, I didn’t realize I’d be a writer until I took a creative writing course in college. Fiction was my genre of choice, but my stories were always thinly-veiled works of autobiography. My MFA degree is in fiction writing, and for more than a decade after completing the program I continued to write fiction. It wasn’t until about ten years ago that I tried my hand at writing nonfiction, and I fell in love with the form, particularly the essay because it requires the writer to think on the page, which, as I noted, is my wont. I had no intention to write about the cult because I didn’t want to think deeply about it, to reopen those wounds. But the honest truth is that I’m a writer, and my experience in the cult is rich material. Sometimes you have to put the work first, even at a high emotional cost. 

Read the entire interview here:  The Rumpus Interview with Jerald Walker