Crackpot Prophet Lets His Racism Show In Regards To His African "Gentiles"

 

One thing Armstrongism was good at was segregating people into "us vs them" categories, but its biggest epitaph was to calls someone a 'Gentile" which quickly translated into an "unconverted" person. COG members were enlightened and chosen by God while all others were not called and were labeled as Gentile, particularly those of color and those assumed to not be part of the British Israelism belief the church clung to in order to make itself special and better than others.

There is one book of the Bible that irritates COG leaders the most and that is Galatians. Nothing makes their legalism look more stupid and silly than this book. They particularly do not like Gal 3:28 as it puts everyone on an even playing field, though this doesn't stop the Great White Bwana and Chief Overseer from labeling his black followers as Gentiles, i.e Black...the other.

The CCOG has nearly 6,000 Gentiles, which compares to about 300 or so in early 2014. CCOG has been the fastest growing x-WCG COG in the 21st century. 

 

Sadly, many people are affected by prejudices and other factors which stop them from acting on the truth and supporting the reaching of the Gentiles. Many also seem to dismiss that we are reaching tens of millions on non-Gentiles with our internet presence and programs. 

 

Jesus taught that the end does NOT come until the ‘Gospel of the Kingdom of God‘ reaches enough nations (Matthew 24:14) and, based on Paul’s writings, we also see that “the full number” (as the NIV, NLT, BSB, CEV, GNT, HCSV, ISV, and NET Bible, put Romans 11:25) of Gentiles God wants in this age come in. 

 

Notice also the following that Paul wrote which points to Gentiles, and then those of Israel:

25 As He says also in Hosea:

“I will call them My people, who were not My people,

And her beloved, who was not beloved.”

26 “And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,

‘ You are not My people,’

There they shall be called sons of the living God.”

27 Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel:

“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,

The remnant will be saved. (Romans 9:25-27) 

 

In CCOG we are reaching Gentiles and non-Gentiles (cf. Romans 9:27, 11:23-24; see also What is the Ezekiel Warning?). 

 

We have done this in person and over the airways, as well as reaching over 100 million computers/talbets(sic)/cellular telephones in 2021. 

 

And that is part of why we have been the fastest growing xWCG church in the 21st century.

Its interesting to notice that here is a guy who thinks his witness is to the House of Israel and the 12 tribes scattered around the world (at least according to COG mythology) and the guy is UNABLE to attract any Caucasian followers, except for a scattered 1 or 2 here and there, let alone any followers from ANY of the Churches of God.  Instead he as to contend himself with "Gentiles" and "non-Gentiles" whoever they are supposed to be. 

 

 

Huh? Sure, Fine, Whatever...

"I'm fulfilling the clearing up of the Book of Revelation!"

These are snippets from the latest, non-Christian and extra-Biblical musings of Dave's, "Never Ending Story" as to just how correct he and the math still is about Christ's Second, or, the way it's going, Dave's Fifth Coming of his Christ saga.

Apologies for lack of context but I assure you, all of Dave's sermons on this BS sound like this from start to finish. I am sure that no member or minister can repeat or explain it as Dave presents it. I do not understand either the members or the ministry of the RCG. Brain dead it seems.  Besides, it changes every week or less anyhow. 

Most of this makes no sense to me and probably not to anyone hearing it at Church. One thinks that if they could hear the entire sermon, it would make sense. Alas, it does not make any more sense in its complete form than it does in snippet form. 

"HOW many STILL believe (as IF they EVER REALLY did!!!) that Moses, Solomon, Jeremiah, Zechariah, Christ and Paul, and perhaps others - PROVED the Kingdom of God comes in the winter month of Sebat?" That it can't be July,  it can't be April or the Feast of Tabernacles or something?................  Ok so we still believe those things


"HOW MANY were convicted that when we move the 8 days out of the Feast of Tabernacles, where the 1st and last days of the Feast, and then the Last Great Day, retain their holy status, and we have to locate them somewhere as SABBATHS?......... HOW MANY STILL believe that?

In other words, do we have AUTHORITY to take these (8) days and move them, and because they're NO LONGER annual Sabbaths, they lose their holy authority, even though annual Sabbaths are more holy to God, there are only 7 of them versus 52 regular Sabbaths. Do we have ANY authority a little over a month ago, to move them and drop the holy status. Are they holy unless God says they're not, or are they not holy unless God PROVES to us AGAIN that they STILL are?"............. There's nowhere in the scriptures that suggests for a minute, that God SAYS they're NOT holy"...

"While the 5 answers remain ROCK SOLID - OR SCRIPTURES BREAK..........SEVERAL things would NOT sit well in my mind for SOME time... In fact, the number of things grew a LITTLE over time - and they resolved themselves"

"The days of his voice..... Either it was 2 messages..... OR the days his voice is PLAYING OUT as his message goes around the world to the brethren....

"My voice is not active anymore since I did Part 344 over 10 days ago... It's TOO far! They don't apply - it bothered me!!

I explained the Book of Revelation - that was a PROPHECY.

I prepared these things WITHOUT ONE THOUGHT - WITHOUT ONE THOUGHT, that I was OPENING UP the Book of Revelation...

It occurred to me DURING the delivery of Part 344, that I WAS FULFILLING the clearing up of the Book of Revelation..... Mr Holcombe and Haboush are both witnesses"....

I believe "Mr Holcombe" was a very close friend of mine back when I pastored in Ohio in my 20's. I ordained him a deacon along the way and then lost track of him over the years. I did call him a couple times in the past but he would not speak with me or return my calls. Then I found he had gone with RCG and Dave so that pretty much explains it.  Dave might not be too happy if John and I were still friends. 

Concerning Dave's view that he opens or fulfills the Book of Revelation-- wrong.  Really, really wrong!

The Book of Revelation, whether we understand it or not, is full of hyperbole and is a failed first century prophecy written in or around the Summer of 70 AD just prior to the Fall of Jerusalem at the hands of the Romans. I do understand the emotional disagreements with this, but Revelation was not written for a 2000 plus year down the road group of White Europeans to use as an explanation as to the times they, like all before them, thought or think they live in with Christ's Second Coming the prize. Even the early canonizers of the scripture were at a loss as to what to do with Revelation. But, as a Book for all times, it made the cut. 

This is not a study on Preterist perspectives but take a look at the concept sometime with regards to Biblical Prophecy and in particular the Books of Daniel and of Revelation should it interest you. It is the most satisfying view of Revelation I have studied to me. I recognize it might be so to you. 

"Preterism, a Christian eschatological view, interprets some (partial preterism) or all (full preterism) prophecies of the Bible as events which have already happened. This school of thought interprets the Book of Daniel as referring to events that happened from the 7th century BC until the first century AD, while seeing the prophecies of the Book of Revelation as events that happened in the first century AD. Preterism holds that Ancient Israel finds its continuation or fulfillment in the Christian church at the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.

The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, which is a prefix denoting that something is "past" or "beyond".^[1] Adherents of preterism are known as preterists. Preterism teaches that either all (full preterism) or a majority (partial preterism) of the Olivet discourse had come to pass by AD 70."

From The Religion of the Occident

"Revelation was the swan song of Militant Jewish Christianity. When Jerusalem was destroyed, when Rome waxed greater and more powerful, when the False Prophet gained more and more followers (Note: To the author, this was the Apostle Paul who was hated by Jewish Christians), when the book itself was proved totally false within two years, when it became evident that the Jewish Messiah Christ would not come, the Hebrew Christians lost their virility and their cult faded under the combined assault of orthodox Judaism and of Gentile (Pauline) Christianity."

If you'd like my perspective on "The Second Coming as the Eternal Carrot" see:

https://ezinearticles.com/?The-Second-Coming-The-Eternal-Carrot&id=94672

or not...

In short, the "you" of the NT meant them not us, or anyone else of another time, every time.

And "This Generation shall not pass" has indeed passed and, apologetics notwithstanding, was never meant to imply any other future generation than the one Jesus is said to be speaking to in the Gospels. 

Dave's fetish with Revelation and his part in it are delusional and ignorant. 

Thanks for reading and your consideration here. 

   

LCG: Did Its Recent Fast Bring Them Closer To God And More Humble?

 Notice that this is NOT the kind of fast that LCG thinks is profitable for edification

Gerald Weston explained the purpose of a fast to some of his inquiring members as follows:

"...a clear statement that fasting is for the purpose of drawing close to God...fasting is a means of humbling ourselves...we draw close to God in humility. This applies to us individually and as the collective Body of Christ. Let us spend extra time in prayer, study, and meditation this Sabbath as we draw close to God in humility and oneness of mind."

That Sabbath is over. Anyone feeling that oneness and humility, besides Weston and Winnail? Was it so wonderful that fasting will no longer be necessary?

At least, Weston didn't ask his members to make their voices to be: "...heard on high," Isaiah 58:4, because God isn't interested in prayers and fasting to get for self.

Might fasting actually have another purpose that the likes of Weston/Winnail, and other former hirelings of the former WCG, hadn't thought of?

Think about it. Moses and Christ fasted for weeks. David did it for days. Were they any humbler? Were they any closer to God?

Weston/Winnail, as are Kubik, Franks, Thiel, Pack, Weinland, Flurry, etc., other former WCG hirelings (not sure who these people really are today?), all believe in their Mickey Mouse Millennium, to one degree or another lord it over others, and want their members to fast. Why? What has fasting ever done during the days of HWA, and since 16 January 1986?

Aren't true Christians, something other than organizations, associations, groups of men striving to rule, lord, and control the lives of men and women....already humbled by God and are hence close to God?

Did Moses and Jesus fast for the reasons Weston gave? If yes, then prove it to us with scripture!

Jesus told us this:

John 17:21 "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."

:23 "I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me."

Can a Christian get any closer to God than that: the Father in Christ, and Christ in every Christian? If these verses are true, that's pretty close to God and that Bridegroom (hint for Weston referencing the Bridegroom being taken away: well, He was away for 3 days and 3 nights), if you ask me.

Fasting is for some other reason(s), but not for what Weston said. Jesus fasted for 40 days and He wasn't going to get any closer to His Father, who was always with Him. And Christ is in them (John 17:23), those to be dragged by the Father and sealed by God's Spirit to be Firstfruits, part of a Bride to be built over time.

Will the likes of Weston, Winnail, other former WCG hirelings determine some other reasons for fasting other than the ones they burden their members with? Will they learn why Christ just may not be "in them:" if that is the actual situation?

Time will tell...

John