My "that's pathetically ignorant" button always gets pushed when Bob Thiel searches the globe for the nasty effects of weather, mostly in due season, inflicted upon the dregs of humanity and attributes this to "God trying to get our attention." The concept that a god has to try has always escaped me.
Now we see that, in keeping with COG Apostle think, PCG also finds their weak god , unable to speak up evidently, punishing California since the70's because they persecuted God's Apostle so called. It's a ridiculous concept and someone said it well when they noted that the Churches of God see themselves as the center and reasons EVERYTHING happens in this world. That's Theological Narcissism to me.
God does nothing directly himself anymore. That trait died out rather soon in scriptures as well as middlemen, weather and natural geological phenomenon took over for the direct voice of God. When we read "thus saith the Lord" or "and God said", if it's in the Bible we just think, "well ok..if you say so. " Today we'd not be so trusting with good reason. It never seems to cross the minds of we sincere folk to ask just what do you mean "God told me" or the mechanism by which the "thus saith" actually comes from. I got "called" into the church. I got "called" into the ministry. But only because I chose to do those things of my own free will. I never actually got a call from any god nor did I hear his/her/its voice literally. Everyone I know today who hears the voices of the gods in their heads today is on medication to curb it and try to control the behaviors that don't lead to a quality life.
Dave Pack heard his own voice in his head and started his true church. Gerald Flurry did the same but filtered his hallucinations through a prayer rock. Every Christian Church on the planet traces their origins to the Apostles. Bob Thiel does but he divines the gods through dreams and words spoken with meanings other than what he came away with. Ron Weinland divines his calling through who the hell knows what. Herbert Armstrong wove the tale of the steering wheel being practically ripped from his hands taking him where he had no intention of going. Others divine the favor of the gods or God because "prayer proves it." I prayed a lot in 30 years, for lots of right things and not "amiss." I prayed over a gazillion sick and never saw a healing. People got better or died but that's about it. Prayer proved nothing to me and don't shit me about having no faith or being insincere and asking amiss. Dave's, Gerald's, Bob's and back when, HWA's calling were all self inflicted and they do not and did not hear any voice of a God.
There are some indications that Bible God can speak up, for himself and "with a mighty voice" at times, but over time even a cursory read of the scriptures will reveal that this boldness disappears leaving the Psalms to plea with a God who seems so far off and of asks "where did you go?" I think those who said God has a mighty voice never heard it personally but imagined it so to be.
"Jeremiah's" Lamentations reflect this loss of God's voice and intervention probably now having simply left Israel to her desolation and destruction and it's the fault of the people...nice going.
The evidence of Bible God's dwindling loud voice and personal relationship with individuals is evident in scripture. In Genesis we have a God who walks and talks in the garden with humans. He is seen face to face and humans are his friends. But it isn't long before God only speaks through pillars of cloud and fire and speaks from mountains with rumblings (earthquakes and volcanos) . Soon enough, he disappears normal communication and has to resort to intermediaries in the form of prophets and priests who hear the voices and pass it on. Today God speaks only through Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, Robert Thiel and/or James Malm ...whatever. When they aren't available, he tries to get our attention with weather.
Eventually in the New Testament we have God speaking through his son Jesus and that all becomes a matter of faith just as believing the voices in the heads of the prophets were actually that of God. An argument could be made for Ezekiel showing all the signs of schizophrenia, which would not have been understood in the day, as well as the young Samuel who was told by Eli the next time they spoke to him to do what they said. Classic schizophrenia which tends to show up in the teens into the 20's. We'd scoff if Dave Pack said the voice of God in his head told him to "send it in." Most scoffed back then too and were right to be cautious of "God told me."
The Apostle Paul was called, so says Luke though Paul says he was called from the womb, on the road to Damascus seeing a light brighter than the sun and the voice of Jesus....in his head. The accounts are muddled nicely. They can't all be true. This description also fits the classic symptoms of temporal lobe epilepsy with religious content, but I'll spare you that concept for God's voice for now.
IT WAS THE WIND
IT WAS THE WATER. IT WAS THE THUNDER.
He makes Lebanon skip like a calf, And Sirion like a young wild ox. The voice of the LORD hews out flames of fire. The voice of the LORD shakes the wilderness; The LORD shakes the wilderness of Kadesh. The voice of the LORD makes the deer to calve And strips the forests bare; And in His temple everything says, "Glory!"
AS IN MAGMA
IT WAS A THUNDERSTORM. IT MAY HAVE BEEN A VOLANIC EVENT
RUSHING WATER DIVINED AS A VOICE ALONG WITH GOD AS THE SUN
STORMS. Baal was the original storm God but Israel appropriated his traits for YHVH's, who originally was a Mountain God.
"IN MY HEARING...NOT YOURS"
A VOICE AND A TRUMPET ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ALSO HEAD ONLY IN JOHN'S HEAD
THOUGH THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT OR HEAR IT AS A VOICE.
So which is it ?