Friday, January 13, 2017

Rod Meredith: Did Christ Actually Start Both Of His Churches?

Lots of empty seats for God's greatest COG leader

Rod Meredith is making the claim that Jesus Christ is the one that started both of his splinter group personality cults.  Did Jesus Christ actually do that?
As I have previously explained, Christ did raise up the Global Church of God in early 1993, through me—just a very few months after the blasphemous, “God Is...” booklet came out, along with other heretical changes in doctrine. But many were not aware of Christ raising up this Church—or had been poisoned against us by vicious rumors and accusations. So, instead of zealously searching out and proving to themselves where Christ was continuing His Work, many just stayed put or even dropped away from the Truth altogether.
Did Jesus Christ start Global?  The answer to that is a bold NO!  Try a child molester and some of his rich friends.  It was a group of employees and church members who connived and plotted behind the scenes while the Worldwide Church of God was defending Meredith's loud mouth in court.   Once Meredith lost the lawsuit and WCG had to pay damages, Meredith and his little crew of weasels began plotting his new church.  Then after Global quickly realized what a tyrant Meredith was, they tried to remove him.  Meredith and his conniving group of ne'er-do-well's  then took all of Global's money and started a new church, another one that Jesus Christ had nothing to do with.
But—mark this!—the living Christ did give people in early 1993 a “way out”—He did raise up a Church with a trained, dedicated ministry of long standing who preached the full Truth and who quickly—within weeks—went on the radio, published literature and began to revive the Work. So Jesus Christ did not “desert” you or anyone else. He is still the living Head of the Church. He is alert, active and powerfully in charge of His Church and His Work! And in His great wisdom, He is now “testing” His people to see what is really in their hearts.
Why is the god of Armstrongism always "testing" its followers?  For eight decades now it is obvious that the members have never measured up.  They have missed the mark.  The god of Armstrongism is still displeased.  Its anger can never be vanquished.  It is eternally pissed
Has the splintering of God’s people been a trial? Of course it has. But God specifically reveals that He allows trials for our good and “tests” us through them. Notice these words of the Apostle Peter: “In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ” (1 Peter 1:6–7). The Apostle James was also inspired to tell us the same thing: “My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience” (James 1:2–3).
The splintering of the church over the decades has been the direct result of self-serving men setting themselves up as know-it-all's with their new churches focus entirely upon their personalities.   Money flow has always been the top priority in the starting of the various splinter groups.  The ministers and leaders need that money stream coming in.  That was Meredith's prime issue when starting Global.  Huge amounts of money needed to be collected BEFORE he jumped ship.  He had no faith to step out on his own.  He let his flunkies do it for him. If he truly was a man of conviction and principle then he would have required no money and no followers but stepped out in faith.

Meredith claims his group is the ONE church that is doing the real gospel and exemplifying the real form of true godly government.  That real government is supposedly a foretaste of what the government will be like in Petra and the world tomorrow.  It that is true, then the church and the world is screwed!  Government in the COG has always been a joke.  If they actually practiced what they preached, then not a single one of them would have started their own groups.  There is nothing godly about the form of government that many of the COG's pretend to use.

Meredith continues:
Christ is alive! He has not gone off and left His Church! He is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33).
If that statment is true, then WHY is the current Churches of God in one of the most confused messes in Adventist/sabbatarian history?  Hundreds and hundreds of personality cults run by their own special guru's stealing tithe money of their own benefit.   The COG can no longer mock the hundreds of Christian denominations any more.  The Church of God is a complete and utter fractured mess.
Additionally, remember Jesus’ powerful promise in Mark 11:23–24: “For assuredly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done, he will have whatever he says. Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.” 
Brethren, if we in the Living Church of God “feed” on these and related scriptures, then we certainly will begin to build “an atmosphere of faith.” Also, obviously, we cannot just “work up faith.” Each of us must do his or her part in fervently studying the Word, meditating on the examples of faith in the Bible and on the things we see God do even in His Church and Work today. Then, we must CRY OUT to God in heartfelt prayer and fasting that our heavenly Father would give us the “gift” of faith through His Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:7–9).
Meredith can "feed" on scriptures all he wants.  Because he ultimately denies the one he claims to follow.  All of that scripture feeding will be of no benefit to him or the church.  As long as legalism runs amok the church it cannot be a follower of Jesus.  Plus, fasting in order to appease that eternally pissed off god is not in scripture and is not a new covenant requirement. Therefore it is a waste of time and ultimately does nothing more than create hundreds of grumbling stomachs.

Next Meredith resorts to his usual doom and fear mongering.  Tough and violent times are a very few years, of course.  That eternally pissed off god is getting ready to spank LCG members.  After being part of three different COG movements, they STILL cannot get things right.  Of course it is always the members fault and never the corrupt leaders.
Remember, God’s Word tells us, “But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him” (Hebrews 11:6). Building an atmosphere of faith within God’s Church today is absolutely vital. We cannot even fully imagine the trials, tests, persecutions and difficulties that will come upon His people during the next several years. We will all need living faith in God. And to do the Work which God really wants us to do, we will have to walk with God, commune with God and wrap our minds around some of the direct statements of Jesus Christ, such as John 14:11–12: “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.”
The scripture that COG members need to find assurance in is this:
Matthew 11:28-30

28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 
29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 
30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
Gone is the burden of having to worry if your have "made it" or if you have been "fighting the good fight."  There is no need to worry about those things.  Grace and justification abound, legalism and the law destroy.

From Editorial: Living Faith


Anonymous said...

Why would God start two different churches just five years apart, with totally different forms of church government?

Did God establish Global's collegial form of government, in which the Council of Elders could remove a sinning Meredith? If so, why would He five years later establish Living with a one-man dictatorship form of government?

It makes no sense. If God was behind Global, He wouldn't have been behind Living.

If God was behind Living, why would He establish a one-man dictatorship led by a man whose previous church had proved him to be one who lied constantly and spread division?

The child molester, however, makes me wonder. As Herbert Armstrong proved, God clearly works through child molesters to start churches. So maybe Global and Living are God's Church after all.

Byker Bob said...

They all justify and hype themselves, and they always apply HWA's exclusivist buzz words to the little groups that have been spewed from the mouth of God. God's church? No, in this case actually something somewhat less pleasant, and actually even punitive, more like God's vomit!


Black Ops Mikey said...

According to the Biblical command to mark those who cause division, we now disfellowship Roderick Meredith.

Of course, this is rather superfluous, since he was never converted and was never a real member of God's church, but we're just being thorough.

Anonymous said...

''Many will come in My name .....and deceive many.''How TRUE.I have friends in LCG,and it is my sincere hope that they can find ''that rest''and experience ''real freedom'',away from LCG.The fruits displayed by the LCG stand as a testamony again them.Can a bad tree bear good fruit.If I engage in deep conversation with these people,if I ask troubling questions about LCG and their core beliefs,i.e BI,their ministry,they get very uncomfortable,and seem at a lost.A house built on sand will one day fall.

Anonymous said...

These wolves claim that Gauwd has spoken to them and has granted them with authority. But if Gauwd can speak to them, why can't He speak to us in the same way? These leaders in armstrongism waste their time and energy fighting amongst themselves while trying to convince others that they were most true and faithful to a man, HWA! Remember, it was the original Jesus Christ who said that He is the Head of His own church. According to the bible, it will never die.


Black Ops Mikey said...

Why would God start two different churches just five years apart... ?

A double minded deity is unstable in all his ways.

And leaves a bunch of people really confused.

Connie Schmidt said...

Remember the old TV game show called "To Tell The Truth"? It could have gone like this...

"Im Rod Meredith, and I started the real Church of God , led and founded by Jesus Christ."
(repeated by each of four contestants)

(questions from the panel)

BILL CULLEN - RCM number one, How much did the WCG pay for legal damages that you caused in the McNair wife case?
Answer - $750,000 , but you have remember that she was demon possessed.

PEGGY CASS - RCM number two, How long were you forced to live in exile in Hawaii, with full pay and benefits because of your misbehavior?
Answer - One Year, but that was all politics and Stanley Raders fault.

ORSON BEAN - RCM number three, What is the best instrument to use for spanking either your wife or child?
Answer - There are several, a ping pong paddle, hair brush, belt, coat hanger or wooden spoon will all work fine.

KITTY CARLISLE - RCM number four , which is worse, masturbation or homosexuality?
ANSWER - both are bad and will send you to Gehenna fire , but Homosexual masturbation in combination is the worse!

The panel has cast its votes, with all four contestants having each received a vote.


(no one stands up)

Well, what do you know... all four panel members voted wrongly, Kitty Carlisle, Bill Cullen, Peggy Cass, and Orson Bean all in error! . The RCM impostors and RCM himself faked them all out by pretending to be the real church!

No, not one of the RCM churches made the cut and not one of them lived up to "TELL THE TRUTH".


Anonymous said...

If Rod is Gods chosen leader, why did he command a Sabbath fast for the healing of his physical ailments. Personally, I fail to see how fasting on the Sabbath (unless a emergency) is keeping the Sabbath. But that's another issue.
If a persons ways are pleasing to God, a church fast is unnecessary. Even others prayers are unnecessary. It smells of Rod trying to bully God, bullying been a Rod staple.

Anonymous said...

The poor sheeple, it's like going to a drive-in in a cab, it will only cost you much much more.


Hoss said...

Anon 647 wrote: Personally, I fail to see how fasting on the Sabbath (unless a emergency) is keeping the Sabbath

Correct. The only fasting permitted on the Sabbath is the Day of Atonement, although Jews also include Tisha B'Av (9th day of Av, in memory of the destruction of the first and second temples.) Strictly speaking, a few other things COGs allow on the Sabbath are not correct.

Anonymous said...

Rod said: "...And in His great wisdom, He is now “testing” His people to see what is really in their hearts..."

What a dummy Rod's god must be, if that god has to do that? That god is an ignorant god.

Have we not read, regarding the God of the Bible, the following?

"For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things." 1 John 3:20

If God is really that knowing, then why should He need to test anybody. Rod continues to put the rod down on those who follow him and he does it with his own brand of Fear Religion.

The Bible says that God weighs the spirits: something Rod cannot do.

And Rod does have the following spirit driving him:

"Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?" James 4:5

But, then again, so does Doug Winnail...well, each of us, but that's another story.

It is so obvious to see that spirit in action via Rod's words! Self, self, self! He is the greatest and so great that surely God just had to move out of the WCG and form something else around Rod himSELF.

Comment was made saying: "...Meredith can "feed" on scriptures all he wants.  Because he ultimately denies the one he claims to follow..."

So true, just like the Bible said. Rod and, yes, Doug too, have another Jesus!

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

They both have another Jesus, another spirit and another gospel.....where god has to test his own people. How absurd!

Rod and Doug continue to expose themselves by their very own thoughts in their man-made organization of men.

Oh, if only those "two witnesses" would just show up and put an end to all of this silliness with all of these silly man-made xcogs with their Fear Religions!

And time will tell....

Retired Prof said...

Connie, on the thread of Jan. 11 about Eric King's dream, an anonymous commenter urged you to write scripts. Thank you for following the suggestion.

Byker Bob said...

A thought for shallow thinkers: There is a very thin, almost microscopic line between "testing" and "entrapment". Extreme caution in labeling is warranted!


Byker Bob said...

I don't know what would exemplify sowing discord and confusion more than starting two, back to back competing ACOGs! Aren't we supposed to mark those who sow discord?

I believe Rod Meredith should receive the mark of Cain!


Anonymous said...

RCM said, "And in His great wisdom, He is now “testing” His people to see what is really in their hearts"

Although RCM is usually full of crap, truer words were never spoken.

God IS testing His people.

Will LCG members continue to follow a known liar with a corrupt ministry just because all their friends and even family might be there? Or will they step out in faith?

Will LCG members continue to put up doctrinal "upgrades" that exist purely to feed the vanity of their authors?

When members and ministers in LCG see others being persecuted and abused will they stand up for what's right? Or shrink back in fear telling themselves that God will eventually take care of it?

It's all a test of character. Do what's right, even if it's difficult - or act like a faithless coward and stand by while bad things happen to good people and the gospel is utterly corrupted by vain arrogant men who don't know the 1st thing about brotherly love or servant leadership?