Well that did not take long. After publishing the story the other night on Rod Meredith's rant on there being no prophets and apostles alive in the church today, I took one of my favorite swipes at Almost-arrested Elisha Elijah Amos Habakuk Doubly Blessed Dreamweaving Chief Overseer Bob Theil. (Apostate Thiel imagines himself as the world's most converted and dynamic prophet ever.) Of course the delusional false prophet took exception to Meredith's words, because HE, Overseer Bob, is the true legitimate prophet of the latter day Church of God. No ministry in the course of Church of God history has ever been as astounding as the improperly named "continuing" Church of God. Dave Pack now whimpers at the mere mention of Bob Thiel's amazing name.
Elijah Habakuk Thiel writes:
While the Bible does warn about false prophets, the Bible also teaches that there will be prophets in the last days and that God will grant them dreams:17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy. (Acts 2:17-18)
Amos Elijah Thiel has a huge hangup on the relevance of dreams in his improperly named ministry. The false prophet talks more about dreams that validate his "calling" than he ever does about that mystery man who was a carpenter from someplace over there.I, and others affiliated with the Continuing Church of God have had prophetic dreams that have come to pass...
Dreams are necessary in the wild kingdom of the Bob's mind. Dreams are just one more tool to "validate" his "ministry." Why? Because Herb and Loma had dreams and the Radio Church of God was the result. Delusional Elisha Bob thinks that his "ministry" will be bigger and stronger than anything Herb and Dave Pack ever dreamed of.
Despite the fact that the Bible shows that God uses dreams and the members of the old Radio and Worldwide Church of God used to accept that the dream from Loma Armstrong was from God, most today do not wish to believe God still uses dreams.
Shame on all of you lazy Laodiceans who refuse to acknowledge Overseer Bob's prophethood! You are sure to burn in the lake of fire for that!
False prophet Bob then makes the claim that Rod Meredith does not keep the 10 Commandments. Only doubly blessed self-appointed prophets are able to do that! Elisha Thiel is the only church leader who leads a blameless life. in spite of that, Elijah Bob still is suffering major butthurt over Meredith stabbing him in the back a few years ago when he publicly refuted everything Thiel stands for.
Dreamweaver Bob is still stinging from Meredith's rebuke of him. Meredith was like a Dad to prophet/apostle Bob, and to suffer such a public rebuke was devastating to the soul of Thiel.In the Continuing Church of God, we also do teach AND practice the Ten Commandments–which is not something I can say that Dr. Meredith fully does. He should realize that God’s people keep their word, even when it is not popular:1 Who may worship in your sanctuary, Lord? Who may enter your presence on your holy hill? 2 Those who lead blameless lives and do what is right, speaking the truth from sincere hearts.3 Those who refuse to gossip or harm their neighbors or speak evil of their friends. 4 Those who despise flagrant sinners, and honor the faithful followers of the Lord, and keep their promises even when it hurts. (Psalm 15:1-4, New Living Translation).
The self-appointed non-ordained false prophet Thiel is demanding that Meredith apologize to him now that Meredith is on his death bed. Meredith is expected to publicly announce that Almost-arrested Thiel is a TRUE prophet, an apostle, that he is DOUBLY-BLESSED, that his dreams are valid and that God loves him more than any other Church of God leader alive today. On your knees Rod!
And as far as I go, yes, Dr. Meredith put out several false and misleading statements about me and he even flat-out denied telling me that he said if he would accept the role of an apostle, he was considering ordaining me as a prophet–even though he did, in fact, do that in January 2009. Plus he broke numerous promises to me related to correcting literature and doctrinal errors that he and others at LCG had acknowledged. He also falsely libeled my character. Yet, I have stood for and told the truth. And Dr. Meredith, if he still has the mental capacity, should realize that, publicly repent, and tell the truth.False prophet Bob also claims that he has all of the signs of being a prophet! Read it and weep folks! It is true because Thiel says so!
As far as Dr. Meredith writing that no one at LCG ever proclaiming himself an apostle or prophet, after he told me that GOD may consider me to be a prophet when I was part of LCG, Dr. Meredith later told me he was considering calling himself an apostle. And when he said this, he certainly did not have the “signs and wonders and mighty deeds” he is alluding to.
The next sure sign of apostle Thiel's prophethood is that he claims his personality cult is growing a 30%. 30% was the number that Herb and crew used to blare out to the gullible church members as "proof" that the church was growing and that God loved it immensely. That 30% moniker was made up by men in the accounting and publishing areas to "prove" that the church was growing exponentially. However, that number has always been in doubt as a department head of accounting said some years ago that they could make any "figure" they want "mean" anything they want. Many of those people were intellectually dishonest. Much like Elisha Thiel.But I did have the biblical signs of being a prophet and he knew at least some of that...
We in the [improperly named] Continuing Church of God have been walking by faith and have had vastly more than the 30% growth that the old Radio/Worldwide Church of God once had and the 15% growth that Dr. Meredith has asked his followers to plead for. We in the [improperly named] Continuing Church of God do have the type of fruits that Jesus said a true prophet would have.
The [improperly named] Continuing Church of God is the only Church of God with this type of growth in the 21st century. This is a fact and is the truth.Read it and weep Rod Meredith!
Rod Meredith is an impotent leader compared to Elijah Thiel. The false property and Mayan authority said that he is adding to scripture just like Herb did. Mayan authority Thiel claims he is adding more truthful details to the mix.
Unlike Herbert Armstrong who restored truths to the Philadelphia era, and Bob Thiel who added more details to those truths, Dr. Meredith has not done that. Nor has he fulfilled the prophetic office. And it was Bob Thiel, and not Dr. Meredith, who was anointed to receive a ‘double-portion’ of God’s Spirit...Gaylon Bonjour never had any intention of doubly blessing apostate Thiel to begin an idiotic ministry based in Arroyo Grande that would be used to deceive sincere African peoples. Those are the people being taken advantage of. Those are the people being lied to and being unjustly used.
God's most merciful apostle ever has been praying for Rod Meredith. The apostate false prophet Thiel has been praying that God would keep Meredith alive long enough:
I have prayed for Dr. Meredith and prayed that he would publicly repent of his false statements. The Bible teaches that the Lord “is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9). Yes, Dr. Meredith is getting old and will die someday–but God may have kept him alive these past four plus years for him to see that the CCOG is the only COG this century that has had the type of growth he claimed showed God’s blessing.The chief bastardizer of the law (after James Malm, of course) and scriptures is demanding that Rod Meredith repent because his time and the time for humanity is short.
He and others are getting a witness, but sadly the Bible shows that the bulk of the Laodiceans will not repent as they should (Revelation 3:14-18 ). It is time for Dr. Meredith to repent and it may be that his time to do so is getting very short.You can read the long screed by the apostate false prophet Thiel here. It includes 44 "truth's" that set him apart from Rod Meredith, the Laodicean. LCG’s Roderick Meredith, Apostles, Prophets, and the Truth
34 comments:
The halfwit is half right.
Meredith needs to repent.
He's not the only one, of course.
A light bulb just went off! I think Theil is probably the anonymous poster who occasionally states that the Holy Spirit secretly confirmed to him that the US would lose a war and be enlaved.
All of these lies, accusations, and infighting that we witness would not be necessary for real human instruments of God. At what point does pretending to be an apostle or prophet transition from simply being presumptuous (Deut 18), and actually become blasphemous? I believe some people should be very afraid. That they are not, and continue to spew this nonsense makes me wonder if they even believe in God, because they certainly don't fear him. This is not just an installment of Casper the Friendly Ghost!
BB
And of course, Bob's vanity will not let him walk away from the matter. He just can't help taking the perceived opportunity to lick his own ass in public, while everyone else is embarrassed for him.
The "Continuing" in CCOG sometimes reminds me of the CONTINUE statement that was needed to close a DO loop in old punch card FORTRAN.
Imagine God keeping RCM alive just so Bob can rub his nose in "growth" statistics. And we all know Mark Twain's take on statistics.
Bob Thiel is making a complete ass of himself. How can anyone follow such a blithering idiot?
There are many reasons why people dream. None of them is because any god is talking to them.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/dreaming
I just love this.We all knew "doubly blessed" Bob would RESPOND.And he did.
Great entertainment.
So so predictable.
A cat fight in a cat litter box indeed.
There is nothing new under the sun.
My my my,and doesn't Bob sound bitter.
You forgot one of Bobs titles...
Almost AUDITED Bob Thiel !
To rephrase a line of Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia:
So long as the COGs fight splinter against splinter, so long they will be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous and cruel...
Unlike HWA and DCP, I don't know what Satan plans or thinks, but I could imagine him looking at little COGfight like this and saying, I've got them just where I want them...
Bobs got all this emotional baggage with former daddy Rod.
Bob will one day stand over Rods grave saying 'admit it, admit it, I was right and you were wrong.'
Bob needs a long lie down on Ziggy Freuds couch.
They both sound as bad as each other. Meredith considered calling himself an apostle at one point, Theiel considers himself a prophet. It's all git for tat egos. Tantrums and tiaras. They are not the first but how old is Thiel ? He wants to grow up.
No one seems to have noticed that Roderick Meredith isn't really an Evangelist either.
Off topic, but about research, britishisraelism.com is finally more or less reopened again, with the caveat that there is much work to be done yet....
Enjoy (if that's your thing).
British Israelism worst science fiction ever.
Point proved.
I'm trying to come up with a biblical example of prophets and apostles who spent more time arguing about whose credentials were legit than they did carrying out their functions as prophets and apostles. I'm drawing a blank.
It is truly sad that these men can't see how awful they really are.
Normal people can often see their own bad behavior in others, recognize it and change, but not these men though they are clones of one another.
The bad they see in others is a direct reflection of themselves. Sad they are blind to what most can see in them.
If they all repented they would see themselves for the self righteous ego-maniacs that they truly are.
British Israelism could be true if we view the genetics with another paradigm.
Since Jews have European factors... something used to say they are not who they say they are.... and since many with R1B have middle eastern origins... we can find in that way a common European link between Jews and many Europeans. It just requires a paradigm change.
The fact that Jews who intermarry have kids who test out as still Jews means they are not really marrying out as they say. Another hint that there could be some link there.
What I have a problem with is making US and Britain/Israel a doctrine. It is not a doctrine, should never have been one and since it is not really provable 100% cannot be used for interpretation of the Bible.
Preterism solves all this garbage folks. Look into it.
The new dispensationalism/prophecy crap is new to Christianity (since the mid 1800s) from the felon and morally corrupt Cyrus Scoffield (whom HWA relied on heavily).
Until then most Christians understood a partial preterism as the truth.
It dispenses with these prophecy morons.
Anonymous 9:59 A.M.,
Did you miss the Epistles of Paul, then?
9.22 AM
Point proved?? lets see, who will I believe. Will I believe some internet site or will I believe what the holy spirit tells me? The holy spirit does answer prayers you know. Otherwise why pray at all?
The answer I got? Why yes, America will be militarily defeated, invaded and what's left of its inhabitants will be rounded up like cattle, to be shipped overseas as slaves.
God is no respecter of person, so ask God (the Holy Internet) yourself.
Another title to add to Bob's list:
"Nobody Cares" Bob
And to what population-deprived place overseas will they go?
Bottom line is that if the increasing number of scientists who believe we've already passed the GW tipping point are correct, then all of the aspiring prophets who have taken up the Armstrong mantle are seriously shooting blanks, just as they did by missing 9/11.
BB
When you know the historical facts, this sounds like Paul writing to Peter. It was much the same situation back then in far more ways than one.
Allen C. Dexter
2.52PM
If you are referring to where the slaves will be taken, they will be sold off worldwide.
place of safety,
An invading army would find in a lot more convenient and cheaper to enslave people were there are, instead shipping them overseas. Why not enslave some local overseas folk??? We have a lot more heavy equipment, robots, automation used today. There really isn't need for slave labor to hand dig in the coal mines.
Mainstream Christians worry about the new world order imprisoning them in the FEMA camps for failing to go along with the gay agenda, refusing to hand over their guns, or not accepting "Chrislam" as their religion.
Intolerance causes people to practice their faiths to the point that it turns them into predators who feed on those of differing belief systems. If Armstrongism actually achieved power, it would probably be the most predatory and enslaving religion known to man. We see this in microcosm in the splinters.
BB
5.59 PM
A conquering arming will not be motivated primarily by economic considerations. Consider the Nazi mistreatment of Jews.
Anon 5:50, "sold off worldwide"? C'mon, thats vague. Get more specifics from "the holy spirit".
BB, "mainstream" usually refers to the major, traditional churches such as the Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians and Episcopalians. As a member of one of these groups with friends in each of the others, I can assure you that we are not worried "about the new world order imprisoning [us] in the FEMA camps".
Mainstream Protestant
Mainstream,
Would that be the "Evangelicals" and "Baptists" then?
I mean we are talking about tens of millions of worried "Christjun folk" in the USA and the market for "rapture" literature, but perhaps not the Lutherans.
nck
I don't carefully interview each of the Christians who share these things with me to determine their exact backgrounds, and I'm not personally worried about the FEMA camps.
That said, some of the people who have expressed these concerns to me were Mormon, Assemblies of God, Apostolic, and non-denominational. In my community, this is also a frequent concern expressed on talk radio. So, clearly the fears are out there, and they are at least somewhat mainstream.
My opinion is that in testing the spirit of a church, faith and love should be more prominent than fear. And, there should also be good spiritual nourishment. Of course bad stuff can happen, but Father God can always bring us through all of that, no matter where we are.
BB
Basically, if any Christians were to be rounded up and taken to camps, due to their lack of visibility, I believe we'll find ACOG splinter members having to beg to be persecuted and taken along. That would be the only way anyone would notice them.
BB
Bob Thiel wrote:"...while the Bible does warn about false prophets, the Bible also teaches that there will be prophets in the last days and that God will grant them dreams:
17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy..."
When will Bob Thiel stop making up lies? Bob quoted Acts 2 there, but where is the mention of "prophets" made in Acts 2? NOWHERE! Bob is doing nothing more than "grasping at straws" and boasting about it to exalt his SELF!
Here is a prophecy for Boasting Bob:
"But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil." James 4:16
And another thing, Acts 2 speaks about God pouring out of His Spirit on ALL FLESH in some "last days!"
Boasting Bob, we are not living in the last days.....well, unless you mean the last days of the likes of "BOASTING" Rod Meredith, your supposed Mentor (Prophet too?)........and your "BOASTING" SELF: Bob Thiel??????????????
And time will tell...
John
Anon 401: Agreed, definitely clutching at straws. An apostle, prophet, whatever, is known by what they actually do, not what they claim about themselves.
In a sermon, Bob said he was old enough to satisfy the "old men shall dream dreams. I don't recall if referred to the lady in NZ who had a dream as a "maidservant". And what about "young men shall see visions"? I don't recall any claims in that department.
Even so, from the content of the dreams described, I don't think they were that significant. Bob's dream was something he already knew, and the NZ dream is also rather vague and had little impact.
Loma's dream was more significant, particularly the way HWA portrayed it. But for Bob to claim the second part of Loma's dream was about him, well, dream on...
Oh, and the man from Africa had the dream about the CCOG being predominantly black -- and Bob already knew that.
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