Today's Sabbath love bomb:
Importance of Mercy: One of the fundamental qualities that Christians need to develop to become like God and reign with Jesus Christ is mercy. Showing mercy involves patience, understanding, compassion, and unmerited pardon. The Scriptures reveal that God is full of mercy and compassion (Exodus 34:6–7) and that He requires us to develop these same qualities (Micah 6:8). Solomon states that those who show mercy, show honor to God (Proverbs 14:31). Jesus taught that the merciful will obtain mercy (Matthew 5:7) and that God values mercy over sacrifice (Matthew 9:13; Hosea 6:6). Jesus also taught that mercy is an important key for good human relationships, and that individuals who have received mercy, but do not show mercy to others, will face serious consequences (Matthew 18:21–35). In human relationships, we are sometimes quick to judge someone guilty by the law, yet, the Apostle James comments that “mercy triumphs over judgment” (James 2:13). As we strive to develop the mind of God, we must also come to understand the importance of showing mercy to everyone we deal with. In this way, we will be preparing to rule with Jesus Christ in His coming kingdom. Think about how you can show mercy to someone else today.
Have a profitable Sabbath,
Douglas S. Winnail
Imagine that, a COG talking about mercy. Who would have ever guessed, considering the actions of so many of the leaders? Who would have ever guessed that the church is a leader in "patience, understanding, and compassion"? Notice there is no mention of where that mercy comes from and the act involved in it or the person. There is a token mention of his name and an admission that the church is quick to judge by the law. The law always trumps.
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Mercy me!
As usual, Doug says something nice but mangles the scriptures in doing so. How could this guy ever have gotten to be a minister?
It would be nice to actually have mercy from the ministry especially when they are your own family, and I am sure there are some out there. From my experience Family is not family once they get elevated to the ministry; it brought out the worse in their personalities. The mental, emotional, and verbal abuse grew worse.
Their arrogant "wisdom" and unwillingness to actually listen, their negativity about others and constantly talking negative about the brethren. Draining to say the least.
They were trained to be snitches and totally devoted to the Leadership. Whatever the Minister/Pastor says no question asked, "God does not call you think" they say.
They destroy others reputations all in the name of their Duty to The Leaders of the Church. They ended up doing this to me as well and they wonder why we are NOT close anymore; well 25 years of me giving the benefit of the doubt and being the shoulder to cry on, giving my time, energy, strength, empathy and compassion while trying to keep peace didn't do any good. It exhausted me to no end.
It is sad to see especially after a certain Minister moved into the area it got worse and not better and a lot of the congregation has left from all the abuse.
Doug, still driven by another spirit, again wrote another gospel about another Jesus as follows: "...Importance of Mercy: One of the fundamental qualities that Christians need to develop to become like God and reign with Jesus Christ is mercy...:
****** Is that necessary to very soon reign on earth during some Mickey Mouse Millennium?
Why won't/can't Doug tell us about the mercy of the following mentioned God (2 Cor 5:19), by the power of His Spirit, through a non-Mickey Mouse Jesus?" Paul's view
2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Now, there is mercy not just for "self," but for the world!
When will Doug encourage this mercy upon the world, rather than focus on what he and his followers can strive to GET in order to impress his "another Jesus?"
Time, and lots of mercy on Doug, will tell...
John
John
Real life experience shows that lcg does not have mercy. They are to hard hearted.
Now they might have a change of heart, but don\t count on it!
Read Doug's words.
Then look at how he handled Sheldon Monson, and Patrick and Elizabeth Scarborough, and many others.
Doug is actually the worst kind of hypocrite, privately professing support and empathy to LCG members that the Presiding Evangelist wants to harm, but then refusing to stand up for those members when doing the right thing would endanger his own job.
I wanted to hazard a guess as to which area this happened in, but then I remembered it happens in almost every area. Although I suspect this is under a regional “pastor” with the initials JHF.
Mercy from the Gestapo ministers? Ha, ha, ha, ha. It's the mafia talking to their victims. It's the fox talking to the chickens. Be merciful to me, but I'II eat you alive. One standard for me, another for thee.
What’s Winnails favorite noodle dish?
Copy Pasta
Have a profitable Saturday! (Enjoy the great outdoors or anywhere outside of a COG)
This must really look odd to the uninitiated. A leading splinterist minister makes a "mom and apple pie" statement about mercy and we all go postal. Can't you hear them saying "What's up with that?!" I am hoping they realize that there is a missing piece that would cause all of this to make sense.
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April 30, 2021 at 11:39 AM
Please explain your terminology. I don't know what "Mickey Mouse" has to do with the 1000 year rulership of Jesus Christ and the saints over the earth.
70-90% of ministers from all ACOG shouldn't be.
Is that an imposter John or real John having a off day comment?
At first glance, it appears Winnail is trying harder, treading softer, with this edition of his weekly whipping. He did, for the first time, follow the standard for a Christian writer that I mercifully suggested to him, which is put Jesus at the start, Jesus in the middle, and Jesus at the end. However, the whipping comes in by sure reliance on the indoctrination of the masses to subconsciously fill in the word "qualify" in the spots where it is missing in his first and last sentences.
The GOGers have been programed to believe that they must qualify to reign with Jesus. Perhaps official COG doctrine does slightly acknowledge the role of grace in salvation; however, in the indoctrination instruction, the people must qualify by works - grace be damned.
Winnail is using the COG-whistle, like a dog whistle, to whip the people with the message if you are not merciful to others, starting with the LCG leadership, you will not qualify to reign with Jesus.
In a shockingly daring move, Winnail does kind of mention grace in his second sentence by using the term "unmerited pardon" - which is the COG's very limited definition of grace. Of course, he would not dare to openly use the word grace, lest the people actually contemplate this Christian concept and see the light shinning from so many scriptures.
It is impossible for me to fathom one of those Christian writers, who Winnail would mock as being "so-called Christian", ever discussing mercy, even mercy toward your neighbor, without also gushing about God's grace.
Christianity is enamored by the concept of grace, while the COGs ignore it!
Since Winnail relies on recycling material, I have again been merciful to him by providing a message which I encourage him to reuse. His church is under a huge burden and desperately need to be refreshed by grace. Once the COGers experience God's grace, they will find it much easier to show mercy to others.
Please Doug, have mercy on your people, publish something like the piece below:
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As Christians, we must live in the light of God's grace - marveling at the fundamental role grace plays in our relationship with God and man. Acts 15:11 shows us that it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved. 2 Timothy 1:9 assures us God has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. Likewise, Titus 3:5 reiterates that God saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. Today, please be mindful, that as instructed in Hebrews 4:16, we can approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need. In your thoughts and interactions with others today, let grace reign through righteousness that brings eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord (Romans 5:21).
As we celebrate the grace of God let us rejoice in 2 John 1:3, may grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and from Jesus Christ, be with us in truth and love.
Have a profitable Sabbath (by embracing Jesus as the Sabbath Rest),
(Note to Doug: feel free to insert your name and recycle this piece to bless your people. Furthermore, please consider that a minister of Jesus Christ must demonstrate appreciation for his grace.)
I encourage the people of the COGs to take some time this Sabbath to do a Bible search of the word grace and contemplate each verse.
The word grace is in the Bible, you don't need to be afraid of it because it is promoted on a dissident website such as this, while not being promoted in your church.
You can count the number of times the term grace is used in the New Testament and weigh the importance of the concept of grace displayed in your Bible. Then, weigh this against the number of sermons, booklets, and broadcasts your COG offers on the concept of grace.
You can also weigh the importance your COG puts on works - compared to verses such as:
Ephesians 2:5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved.
Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God
2 Timothy 1:9 He has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,
Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
Best wishes for a profitable, grace-filled Sabbath!
Notice how the COGs have never defined the concept mercy. They pretend that it's obvious, but it's not. Which means that members will project into the word mercy, the ideas that they have absorbed from the world. Which in this case means going easy on crime. Which is convenient and self serving for an abusive ministry.
My guess would be in the Atlanta area.
He writes about the importance of mercy in LCG? The reason they can't show it is because they don't know how much they have been forgiven. They also can't show it because they feel compelled by Satan to rule the church with full rigour. If they aren't strict without mercy toward the slightest offense in the church, they will feel as if they have let God down as "officers of the truth". They have to stop acting like policemen! (Maybe that is why some will call on the police to officiate in church affairs) They have to stop acting as they are the be-all end-all on all matters in the church. And they have to stop showing respect of persons, a pernicious disease in the ministry where they feel compelled to trust the words of their trusted authority figures (friends, family, deacons, elites, etc.) all the time. We see this all the time, "You the member are wrong, we the ministry are right". As one minister said to me years ago, "How could so many ministers be wrong?" Obviously, he was under the illusion that the ministry can do no wrong. No wonder Paul said to not lay your hands suddenly upon any man. (1 Tim 5:22) If the senior men are being corrupted, how much easier is it for Satan to throw off the younger men?
Winnail should have addressed this subject to his boss who put me out by an e-mail without letting me know what my offence was or without giving me a chance to defend myself, which makes them worse than UCG (where I was allowed to go through the proper channels but without the spirit of justice ruling. Soon after this was the UCG/COGWA split).
Also, I shake my head over our ignorance of the subject of the grace of God. Not only have we lost our unity as a church, many have fallen from the grace that they can't define. (Zech 11:7) Look at pathetic UCG. They put out a 100-page booklet on grace a year ago hoping to solve the problem yet in reality it can be defined and explained on one page.
Anonymous, April 30, 2021 at 7:05 PM, said: "...Please explain your terminology. I don't know what "Mickey Mouse" has to do with the 1000 year rulership of Jesus Christ and the saints over the earth.
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Former WCG taught a Jesus Christ with his followers would very soon reign on earth for 1,000 years during the time Satan is in some bottomless pit. There would be like a human utopia on earth for 1,000 years; however, Jesus Christ won't be on earth.
Jesus Christ is in Heaven with His Father and will remain there during that 1,000 years, but Revelation 20:3 describes Satan's location for 1,000 years, and he is not allowed to deceive nations until the 1,000 years is finished:
"And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."
Mickey Mouse is fictious. A Jesus, another Jesus, on earth during that same 1,000 years is also fictious, and that along with some kingdom: a Mickey Mouse kingdom!
After 1,000 years, guess what? Satan is loosed, but where is that Jesus Christ?
Revelation 20:7 "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,"
:8 "And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea."
Satan goes out to deceive the nations, not just Jerusalem, but the entire world's inhabitants, and where was Jesus? Some time after Satan is loosed, the following verses will become reality:
Zechariah 14:1 “Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.”
2 “For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.”
If Jesus Christ were in Jerusalem, would He allow Jerusalem to be taken over like it says there? Well, He isn't there.
Christ's wrath, the 7 Trumps occur before the 1,000 years. Satan enters the pit.
God's wrath, the 7 Vials (including Armageddon) occur after the 1,000 years of a sort of human utopia (without Satan being allowed to infest/infect human minds). The real Day of the LORD occurs after Satan is loosed from the pit, and not before. WCG taught something else, which amounted to a Mickey Mouse kingdom/millennium of Jesus Christ reigning on earth. That is another Jesus, as fictitious as Mickey Mouse. His kingdom on earth with Jesus reigning on earth is also a MM kingdom, b/c all who watch for it to happen "very soon" are watching in vain! There is a reason that kingdom has not been set up when most have speculated it would be.
Many still look for 10 nations/kings/kingdoms to occur soon, but the timing for that event is for a much later time, and after the 1,000 years, after Satan exits the pit to head up those "10" via Gog, the 7th head of the beast.
Time will tell...
John
I think Doug is by nature kinder than most ministers and would prefer a more gentle church. Doug would have liked LCG to handle many of the interpersonal problems better. But has chosen to go along with the harsh dictates of Ol' Spanky and now new spanky Jerry as the have seen fit in the spanking of the members. For Doug, mercy does not triumph over judgement. For Doug, keeping his job triumphs over mercy.
Anonymous of May 1, 2021 at 1:16 wrote that UCG published a 100-page booklet on grace!
That's fascinating news to me.
I need to read and critique that booklet - but I bet it is 100 pages of trying to refute what the Bible actually says about grace, or acknowledging grace in a small way while contorting other verses to try to argue that law trumps grace.
Biblical grace is the unraveling of COG doctrine.
Doug wrote: "Showing mercy involves patience, understanding, compassion, and unmerited pardon."
How many of the people of Doug's church that were disfellowshipped received patience, understanding, compassion, and unmerited pardon?
LCG does not have a record of showing mercy.
I wonder how many of members caught Doug's hypocrisy - or are they all brainwashed?
Does anyone have any recorded proof that Doug Winnail has ever spoken or written about the topic of Grace - any article, blurb, phrase, sermon - anything?
These things Doug writes are not spiritually insightful or intellectually deep; is this the best he can do? Or is he dumbing it down because he thinks this is all the dumb sheep can handle? Don't the people expect more?
Anonymous, May 2, 2021 at 6:46 PM, asked: "Does anyone have any recorded proof that Doug Winnail has ever spoken or written about the topic of Grace - any article, blurb, phrase, sermon - anything?
And earlier Anon, May 1, 2021 at 4:35 AM, gave a very good possible answer as to why Doug Winnail cannot write about grace, namely this: "...The GOGers have been programed to believe that they must qualify to reign with Jesus. Perhaps official COG doctrine does slightly acknowledge the role of grace in salvation; however, in the indoctrination instruction, the people must qualify by works - grace be damned..."
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In other words, Doug believes he, his "righteous SELF (SELF-righteousness?)", has already qualified to reign with another Jesus in the Mickey Mouse Millennium for 1,000 years on earth. Huh?
Jesus Christ chewed out the religious leaders of His day as hypocrites, whited walls, etc.: however, Jesus was addressing a generation of evil spirits (Matthew 23:35) that were driving those leaders to be SELF-righteous, hypocrites, harsh, etc.
Jesus told them the truth. The religious hirelings of the xcogs today are no different.
That generation of evil spirits are also no different today in what they do to religious leaders.
Doug won't admit it, but he is driven by another spirit to preach another gospel and another Jesus and cannot bring up grace, b/c Doug thinks that what he has accomplished by qualifying somehow with his good works has been done all on his own. Doug need any other help? Any grace? No, he thinks he has arrived.
In other words, Doug thinks he is so holy, and so righteous, on his own and has already earned his salvation. So, where is there room for any grace? Doug already qualified with his own good works!
How can anybody tell Doug that he is to be saved by grace, and by the power of God, and that Doug has had nothing to do with it? It can't be done today, b/c grace would take away that "righteous self," and he can't handle the truth...of that.
Doug will continue his whippings and pet-talks until he thinks all of his listeners measure up to his own standard of self-righteousness, of just how good Doug thinks he currently is, unless and until some repentance enters his consciousness. I believe in grace of God. So, will Doug's righteous self one day be pushed aside where he will finally acknowledge the need for grace in his own life and in the lives of all others (2 Cor 5:19; I Tim 2:3-4)?
I believe so; I don't know when, but time will tell...
John
Thanks for the reply John at May 3, 2021 at 7:09 AM.
I think you are correct about self-righteous attitudes clouding out the need for, and appreciation of, grace.
I also agree that Jesus was referring to the Winnail-types when blasting the teachers of the law.
Beyond Doug Winnail, does anyone have any recorded proof that LCG has ever spoken or written about the topic of Grace - any article, blurb, phrase, sermon - anything?
I asked a family member for LCG material on grace - he has repeatedly ignored all requests, even though I remind him he should be prepared to give an answer for his faith.
The New Testament has many weighty verses about grace - it was clearly an immensely important topic to the Apostles and the New Covenant Church. In LCG's recorded claims of being Original Christianity, do they ever discus grace?
All of the defenders of Winnail and LCG members who peruse this site have an opportunity to provide education on the doctrines of your church.
IF only Doug had the humble attitude and preaching focus of Paul, who wrote: 1 Timothy 1:16
But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.
Someone above said Doug was nicer than other ministers. So do you also believe their were good Nazi prison camp guards?
YOUR ATTEMPT at FEAR AND INTIMIDATION HAS ABSOLUTELY NO IMPACT ON ME OR ANYONE ELSE WITH HALF A BRAIN DOUGY!! You have NO authority to threaten anyone!! The joke is on YOU because we HAVE YOUR NUMBER Dougy!! You do NOT fool US!!
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