Oh, what a truly glorious, jaw-dropping spectacle for the ages: Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and Bob Thiel — the undisputed, self-crowned champions of zero humility in the entire pathetic little Church of God universe. These three spiritual colossi have elevated the ancient art of being spectacularly, breathtakingly, almost comically full of themselves to an Olympic-level performance, all while piously pretending it’s just “God’s work” oozing from their oh-so-humble, divinely-anointed pores.
While the rest of us pathetic mortals are stuck down here wrestling with silly little concepts like basic self-awareness or the radical notion that we might, heaven forbid, be wrong about something, our holy trio soars far above such embarrassing earthly concerns on wings of pure, unadulterated ego. They don’t merely claim special roles — they hoard biblical titles like a hoard of dragons sitting on a pile of prophetic treasure. Gerald Flurry has grandly declared himself “That Prophet,” end-time Elijah, Malachi, lawgiver, watchman, and full-blown apostle, all while gravely informing the world that his precious Philadelphia Church of God is the only outfit God hasn’t already puked out like yesterday’s lukewarm coffee. Dave Pack has joyfully self-promoted to apostle, Joshua, Elijah, and “Messenger of the Covenant,” tirelessly assuring his ever-shrinking flock that any day now every other COG group will come crawling on their knees to kiss the ring of his superior brilliance. And Bob Thiel? Oh, bless his precious little heart — he’s graciously accepted his divine appointment as the world’s single most vital “evangelistic prophet,” supernaturally confirmed by his very own dreams and that ever-so-convenient “double blessing” that apparently only he and a couple of hand-picked yes-men could possibly detect.
Truly, the meek shall inherit the earth… right after these guys finish reserving the VIP section, the throne, and the entire heavenly press corps for themselves.
Even more awe-inspiring is their superhuman, ironclad refusal to ever, under any circumstances, admit even the tiniest speck of error. Failed prophecies? Shifted dates? Public face-plants so spectacular they’d make a lesser narcissist spontaneously combust? Not a problem for these flawless ones. Those aren’t mistakes — they’re “new revelation,” “refined understanding,” or obviously the fault of those nasty, Satan-serving Laodicean rebels who dared question God’s specially anointed snowflakes. While actual biblical prophets were face-down in the dust begging for mercy and real apostles called themselves the chief of sinners, these modern wonders prefer thundering from their pulpits about how extraordinarily, indispensably, uniquely special they are. How refreshing.
Their leadership model is pure, high-octane comedy gold: iron-fisted authoritarianism slathered in a microscopic layer of “submit or you’re serving Satan.” Members enjoy the sacred privilege of total, unquestioning obedience, generous “common” offerings (especially in Pack’s ever-ravenous kingdom), and the weekly joy of being reminded that anyone who leaves or disagrees is clearly deceived, rebellious, demon-possessed, or all of the above. It’s almost touching how effortlessly the gospel of Jesus Christ has been upgraded to the far superior, far more entertaining gospel of “Me, Myself, My Infallible Mantle, and My Next Failed Prediction.”
Why this radiant, blinding absence of humility, you ask? It’s really quite simple, darling. When you’ve successfully convinced a tiny, ever-dwindling band of followers that you alone carry the “Philadelphia mantle” while the rest of Christianity — and every other COG splinter — wallows in pathetic deception, humility isn’t just unnecessary — it’s practically heretical. Throw in three oversized egos, zero meaningful accountability, and a theological system custom-built to reward the most bombastic self-promotion imaginable, and voilà: you get this magnificent, side-splitting parade of men who claim to channel the Almighty yet somehow can’t manage to bow their own heads for five consecutive seconds without pausing to make sure the applause hasn’t died down.In the end, while the world hurtles toward its prophesied climax, these three modern-day “Elijahs,” “That Prophets,” and self-anointed apostles continue strutting on their ever-shrinking, ever-sadder stages, boldly declaring themselves the most important men since the Apostle Paul — perhaps even since Christ Himself (and let’s be brutally honest, they probably think they’ve got Him beat on both charisma and production value).
With flawless, almost artistic precision, they have mastered the rare spiritual gift of never being wrong, never needing correction, and never once choking out the words “I was mistaken.” Their humility is so deep, so profound, so otherworldly that it has evidently been raptured straight to heaven years ago, leaving only endless, thunderous declarations of their own unmatched greatness echoing through the empty halls behind.
Truly, it is a wonder to behold: men who claim to speak for the Almighty, yet somehow cannot bow their own heads. They warn the sheep of impending doom while refusing to examine the suffocating, soul-crushing pride that grins back at them in the mirror every single morning like a proud parent.
One can only imagine the scene on that final Day, when the real Elijah, the real apostles, and the real Head of the Church finally make their appearance.
May God have mercy on the souls who followed the deafening echo of their own voices… instead of the still, small one.
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18 comments:
We were involved with the RCG in the early days. One of the main reasons that we left RCG was due to his lack of humility. He certainly hasn't changed...
All his wrong pronouncements SHOULD have humbled him.
But the "old man" seems to keep rising.
One of the main reasons that we left RCG was due to his lack of humility.
From this I assume you were never in WCG, as Dave is utterly mild and meek in comparison to HWA.
HWA was a liar and thief...
More Than One Problem
In January 1995, the Devil's APOSTATE Joseph W. Tkach, Sr. openly threw out of the Worldwide Church of God virtually everything that Herbert W. Armstrong had taught. Joe, Sr. then died on September 23, 1995, exactly 40 weeks to the day after first giving his sermon in December 1994 doing away with the weekly Sabbath.
What was left of the WCG got renamed by his son, the Devil's APOSTATE Joseph Tkach, Jr., as Grace Communion International, a ham-eating, Sunday-keeping, Trinitarian church that observes Christmas, Easter, and Halloween, and liked Harry Potter sorcery novels.
Satan's favorite FALSE PROPHET, Gerald R. Flurry, started a satanic imposter cult called the Philadelphia Church in December 1989 and claimed to be faithfully holding fast to everything that Herbert W. Armstrong had taught at the time of his death on January 16, 1986. Gerald Flurry actually went on to edit, change, warp, mangle, and totally pervert the things that HWA had taught.
Gerald Flurry went on to become a gospel suppressing (with his “new commission”), family wrecking (with his “no contact” policy), Jesus' identity stealing (with his “That Prophet” fraud), false prophet (who had to subscribe to Stratfor to try to guess the future) who praised and promoted himself (with dozens of fancy names, titles, offices and positions that he gave himself) until he became the new king of England (in his delusions) and is now wasting his followers' time, energy, and money on Irish dancing.
Later, Satan's second-favorite FALSE PROPHET, David C. Pack, started his own satanic imposter cult in May 1999 called the Restored Church and claimed that he was going to restore everything that Herbert W. Armstrong had taught at the time of his death on January 16, 1986. However, he too went on to edit, change, warp, mangle, and totally pervert the things that HWA had taught.
David Pack went on to promote himself to apostle, Joshua the High Priest, Elijah the Prophet, and “That Prophet,” and to become a “COMMON” thief who wanted to get his greedy hands on virtually everything that his followers had (cash, savings, retirement plans, possessions, houses, etc.), and who could not seem to stop making up new, wrong, prophetic date guesses every couple of weeks.
Unfortunately, these are just some of the bad characters who have arisen to lie to, rob, and try to destroy, the former Worldwide Church of God members.
After 60 years, began attending Radio Church in 1965.........two deceptions of note: tithing money income is commanded. No. The 15th is the first day of UB. No. It's the 14th.
a ham-eating, Sunday-keeping, Trinitarian church that observes Christmas, Easter, and Halloween, and liked Harry Potter sorcery novels.
if former members want to live the life of Herb as being the only one true way it;s likely not too hard to find somewhere among the one true splinters one that would appeal?
Fitting that the Herb system failed though because while they did important things like not eating pork, hated Christmas and took tithes it was riddled with lies, falsities to a vast degree and its demise was warranted. .
God reveals truth progressively, not all at once. Just as Herbert W. Armstrong (HWA) corrected or improved his own understanding over 50 years, Mr. Pack is authorized to refine understanding of prophecy as the end nears. Shifts in dates or prophetic interpretations are framed as "new understanding" or "newly revealed truth" rather than error, ensuring the Church remains dynamic, not stagnant.
Just as the Apostle Paul was bold in his authority to protect the flock from false doctrines, Mr. Pack is not "lacking humility," but rather acting with "apostolic boldness" required to establish the "only path to world peace".
You seem to be missing the point. The biggest offender of all was HWA and the WCG. The rest are just plucky little offshoots doing what they were taught to do from Herbert. Thankfully none of them has any kind of mass influence. You constantly post the same thing over and over. Get over it. The whole movement is garbage, starting with the WCG.
Anonymous on Monday, April 20, 2026 at 11:17:22 PM PDT said ... “if former members want to live the life of Herb as being the only one true way it;s likely not too hard to find somewhere among the one true splinters one that would appeal?”
Actually, NO!!!
Each one of the numerous splinter groups has gone off in its own different direction.
Interestingly, the more that a splinter group originally claimed to be following HWA exactly (such as Gerald Flurry's PCG and David Pack's RCG), the more it ended up editing, changing, warping, mangling, and totally perverting what HWA had taught.
This is supposedly the Laodicea era of the church. It is not a good era. It is a good time to “beware of false prophets.”
Anonymous on Monday, April 20, 2026 at 11:37:46 PM PDT said ... “Mr. Pack is authorized to refine understanding of prophecy as the end nears.”
The complete, total, utter nonsense that Dave Pack babbles shows that he definitely is NOT authorized to “refine understanding of prophecy” or anything else.
Anonymous on Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 5:42:23 AM PDT said ... “Thankfully none of them has any kind of mass influence.”
At its peak, the Worldwide Church of God had about 150,000 people attending its Feast of Tabernacles.
Currently, not even one of the splinter groups is even one-tenth of that size.
If you asked a typical Armstrongite minister about humility, he'd probably smile and say "Huw Millety? Why I knew him back when I was working as a ministerial assistant up in Walker! He must be in his '80s by now! How is the old Geordie doing???"
There are modifiers in the Bible excluding false prophecy from the growth, learning, and understanding process. You don't learn and grow by making false prophecies! One mistake and you are a false prophet, and not to be listened to! Prophecy (real prophecy) does not come from the mind of a human. The human is simply the vehicle for a message revealed by God Himself. God does not make mistakes. Therefore, the way you can tell if a messenger is from God is by the fulfillment of the prophecy. If it is not fulfilled, it means somebody made it up and lied to you.
How gullible are some of you people who have been programmed to excuse or downplay false prophecy? Would you excuse a minister who was caught in fornication or adultery, or had a secret boyfriend, if he told you it was just part of his learning process?
Enjoy him while he lasts, 11:39! He's not going anywhere with all of his teachings any more than any of the other purveyors of Armstrongism. So many people have died while in a state of "unrequited prophecy". Sequentially, our grandparents, then our parents were said to be the "generation which will not pass until all these things be fulfilled" from the Olivet Discourse. Now, the Baby Boomers, who were born roughly at the same time Israel was reborn as a nation. Have you checked in with your Classic Rock stars lately? Most have gone to be with the grandfathers, just like all the Navajo Code Talkers.
The Navajo Code talkers did something worthwhile for humanity, David Pack has not.
I was just thinking about how we could add a smidge of moxie to the Pack, Flurry, Thiel triplets in the artwork. Amazingly, they are actually already in muscularly correct position to accomodate this suggestion. Wouldn't it be hilarious if somehow this could be turned into an animated commercial for Jack Vail's "Pooter"? 😂😂😂🤭
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