Prophecy Dr. Shocked "The Beast Power" Is Part of an American Think Tank

Edel Rodriguez


 

Living Church of God's most gifted prophecy dude is now shocked that The Beast is part of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.  How can Americans be sooooo stupid to allow this man to be in our governmental midst especially when he is going to be the one to imprison us in concentration camps and hang us from meathooks? Death and damnation are sure to come our way for allowing this abomination!


Prophet Thiel writes:

Baron Karl zu Guttenberg now has been appointed to be part of a US ‘think tank’:

The Local – Sept 30, 2011

The Washington-based Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) announced Thursday that Guttenberg was joining the organization as a “distinguished statesman.”
Guttenberg would “lead a new transatlantic dialogue initiative at CSIS which will bring European and American thought-leaders, practitioners and officials together,” the CSIS said in a statement.
This would allow them to develop “a bold, new strategic vision to reinvigorate the transatlantic relationship and prevent strategic drift.” …

The unpaid position at the CSIS is an advisory post also held by Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak.  http://www.thelocal.de/national/20110930-37919.html

The above is interesting for several reasons, including something I posted about related to him in July 2011:

As regular readers of this page are aware, I have had my eye on one-time German Defense Minister Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg since late 2009 as one who could possibly fulfill the role of the final King of the North…If he is the one, his coming stay in the USA will give him better insight into the USA and probably contacts that he may exploit later, perhaps as a subterfuge for an attack on the USA (cf. Daniel 11:39).

By becoming part of the Washington-based Centre for Strategic and International Studies, Baron Guttenberg will have contacts in the USA that he is likely to use politically in future.  And since there is at least one major Israeli leader in the same think tank, this may influence him enough so that he possibly can fulfill the prophecies Daniel 9:26-27 (which he may do directly, or perhaps only through confirmation indirectly).

Whether he is the one or not, I believe that the Baron’s scandal earlier this year and his current self-imposed ‘exile’ appear to be consistent with certain non-biblical prophecies about a leader commonly referred to as the Great Monarch and possibly biblical prophecies concerning the Beast, the final King of the North.

 But just to cover his ass the Prophet writes:

On the other hand, it is possible that Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg could simply be a normal politician, with ups and downs like many others. We will see.

Much is happening in the world, and a leader known as the final King of the North (or Beast) in Bible prophecy, will ultimately become the leader of Europe. And according to the Bible, he will have military abilities (Revelation 13:1-4) and apparently be popular and charismatic (cf. Daniel 7:20,11:21-24,31; Revelation 13:3-5).

Karl Guttenberg fulfills these requirements.
We all should watch (cf. Mark 13:37).

Wouldn't it just be simpler to keep your mouth shut and stop speculating than to continually make a fool of your self in front of LCG, Armstrongism and the rest of the world?

LCG's New Stealth "News" Site

LCG has a stealth web site/show up called "Head's Up" that you would not know had any connection to Rod Meredith unless you click "About" and then you would not know unless you click on the "Tomorrow's World" link.  HWA traveled around the world embarrassed to say he was part of a church and it looks like Meredith is carrying on that tradition.

This site is operated by Heads Up, LLC and is sponsored by the publisher of the Tomorrow’s World magazine.

Looks like the same old hot air, just repackaged.

Is Rod Meredith Ensuring His Children's Inheritance?

From a comment on the Glen Gilchrist posting:

"...do you think LCG emphasized government so much because of what UCG and COGWA went through last year?"

 

No. LCG emphasizes government because that is how Rod Meredith can force his sheeple to accept his sons as his rightful heirs to the throne, passing over so many other more senior men. Of course, this doesn't work for everyone. I have heard that LCG's income dropped sharply after Rod appointed his son Jim as his #2, and that it dropped even more after Rod baptized his son David and gave him a cushy HQ job. Lots of people in LCG are disgusted by Rod's blatant nepotism, and by his growing trail of lies, and there may even be a church split because of it. Rod may end up with a cult smaller than Flurry's, but it will still be a nice inheritance to leave to his children, saving them from having to do another honest day of work as long as they live

Glen Gilchrist (LCG): When I Speak The Most Amazing Thing Happens...

This LCG ministurd thinks Jesus is standing next to him as he preaches. This was a slick way of keeping the dumb sheeple in submission. If you dared question this minister you were going against God. Rebellion!

This was a teaching that I heard over and over growing up in the Cincinnati and Dayton churches. We even had our fair share of crackpots in Pasadena who said this same thing.

I knew Gilchrist from college and believe me, Jesus is NOT standing by him when he preaches! Jesus is nowhere to be found in the proximity of the guy!

It was a regional ministerial and leadership conference in the UK. I believe
Dr. Winnail was conducting the conference. There were many subjects that were
covered but the one that caught my attention was the section on "church
government and ministerial authority". Now whether Winnail was telling them to
exercise more or less ministerial authority the announcement didn't say but we
can probably guess. If Glen Gilchrist is any indication, it probably had a
flavor of the 3rd reich. Gilchrist has made the following statement twice now
at our church area" When you hear me[telling you something] you should see Jesus
Christ standing right next to me [backing me up].

The above quote was made in response to the latest gathering of LCG henchmen where they were lectured by Winnail about ministerial authority and church government.

This person does not think too highly of Winnail. You would think after all these years away from the mother church these little harlot daughters would have learned not to be abusive and controlling, but no. Power, control and submission are the only things these splinter cults know. They have no other means of keeping their members in check. It certainly does not involve the love of Jesus and unconditional grace. Imagine that!

Did anyone catch announcements the other week about the ministerial
conference? Dr. Winnail said that they focused on "church government and
ministerial authority" this year at the conference. I'm sure they were telling
the ministers to use less of both and use more "servant leadership", because HQ
would never want a minister to ABUSE his power or over emphasize church
government in order to try to CONTROL his congregation.

LCG seems to be losing members left and right. On the LCG Yahoo group (now deleted) many of the members have stopped attending LCG because of the heavy handedness and outright lies. More and more of Lord MerryDeath's henchmen are flexing their limp wrists in trying to control members and they have been found to be weaklings.

The Apostle Says: Tribulation Could Start In Late 2012

Self appointed Apostle and prophecy nut Apostle Malm is spitting out more dates for the start of the tribulation and a potential upheaval in LCGlala Land leadership:

I am not making a set in stone prediction, however in my personal opinion it looks highly likely that the Abomination COULD be set up in Rome in the second half of 2012 [probably in Sep.] calling for a New Europe; and the tribulation to begin 75 days later.

When the abomination is set up, and the New Europe comes together, all the biblical signs are present and peace and safety is declared; UCG and the other major groups  will reject the biblical signs around the peace and safety declaration; probably be saying that no Temple has been built and no Daily Sacrifice started: in a misunderstanding of the stopping of the Daily in the midst of the Week of Dan 9.

LCG: It is possible that LCG will have a new leadership before the end of 2012.  They are likely to cling to the widely held pagan idea; which seem to be unique in LCG compared to the other COGs;  that the full 70^th week of Daniel still needs to be fulfilled.  Therefore when the abomination is set up, many of them will be caught in the tribulation; believing the pagans rather than God’s word; that immediate destruction will come when peace and safety is declared. 

Is It A Sin To Watch American Football?

The COG numbnuts are out in full force today!  Prophet Thiel has this to say about American football:

Should Christians support violent sports like American football?
The late Herbert W. Armstrong wrote:

All Sports Not Wrong
Competition and not cooperation, is the attitude which Satan inculcates human minds. But that does not mean that all sports are wrong or to be banned. The law of God is based on the way of righteousness…The basic law is love, out flowing toward God above all else, and secondarily, “Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.”
To harm the other fellow and to gain by doing so for self is a kind of competition that is wrong. Hostility toward the other is sin…
Boxing at Ambassador College is definitely banned. God did not create the human brain and head to be pummeled and knocked senseless by an antagonist.
Wherever a game in sports involves antagonists–in hostile attitude to harm the other and/or to “get” from the other–to get the best of the other then a harmful, satanic and evil attitude enters in, and the sport is evil, not good…
Football (American football) is a violent body-contact sport. It is often played with an attitude of hostility and is dangerous and is fraught with physical injury. (Plain Truth, July-August 1984)

I guess Prophet Thiel conveniently forgets that HWA loved to sit in front of his TV on Friday nights and Saturdays watching WWF Wrestling and old classic Westerns.  I guess body slams, headlocks, shooting cowboys and Indians scalping settlers was great Sabbath entertainment!  But according to The Prophet since these are all fake, it is OK.  However football play involves injuries and injuring an opponent is a sin. Plus, football involves competitiveness which is a major sin.  I see the Lake of Fire smoldering in eager anticipation......

The Prophet goes on to say:

After seeing the injuries that some of my high school football-playing colleagues suffered, I could not reconcile the scriptures with American football.   There are better ways for Christians to learn principles like teamwork from other sports or activities than watching actual violence.

John the Baptist taught, “Do violence to no man” (Luke 3:14, KJV), so what about violent sports?  The New Testament also warns Christians against being violent or approving of those that are (Romans 1:28-32), while history records that early Christians would not watch violent sports (e.g. Theophilus of Antioch. To Autolycus).

Years ago, Dr. Roderick C. Meredith wrote that avoiding bodily harm was an important health law (Seven Laws of Radiant Health).  Since it is best to avoid bodily injury, should Christians encourage others to put themselves in harm’s way?

 Unlike stories of violence in books or movies, American football involves actual violence and often physical injury–including brain damaging ones that are often not obvious for years...

Now how widespread brain damage from playing football is can be debated (and probably will be). But everyone has to know that crashing into other human beings in order to knock them down and/or stop them from running or throwing is not harmless.

While “love does no harm to a neighbor” (Romans 13:9), what do sports like American football and boxing do?

This is something that Christians, and others, should think about.

Prophet Thiel is NOT Happy....Again!

It doesn't take much to get Prophet Thiel stirred up anymore.  Everything seems to point to some end time disaster or scenario.  It's doomsday and Armageddon all the time!  Prophecy, prophecy, prophecy.  Death, destruction, famine, wars, are all eagerly anticipated for some short time in the future.

Prophet Thiel wants you to know he is disturbed! Prophet Thiel is particularly disturbed by Benjamin Grant Mitchell's book, "The Last Great Day".  He take great umbrage with the Melbourne Weekly describing the old Worldwide Church of God as a "doomsday cult."

WHEN Benjamin Grant Mitchell decided to write a novel based on his life, he had plenty of material to work with. The former Neighbours actor, singer-songwriter and new father was born into an American doomsday cult. To top it off, his father was one of the ministers. Mitchell, who now lives in Warrandyte, started penning his story three years ago and next week will unveil the debut novel, The Last Great Day, at the Melbourne Writers Festival.

The 42-year-old, who played Neighbours character Cameron Hudson in the 1990s, spent his early childhood moving around Australia, then settled at the Worldwide Church of God headquarters in Los Angeles.

The Prophet says:

There are a lot of misunderstandings about the old Worldwide Church of God (WCG).

But it was not a “doomsday cult.”

Those of us who were part of the old WCG and in the current Living Church of God (LCG) are not like the Jim Jones’ followers–we do not plan on drinking poisoned flavor-aid to end our lives.  Although some are expected to die in persecutions, LCG church members mainly hope to live until the return of Jesus Christ and the establishment of His kingdom, and hope to proclaim the truths of the Bible to the world as a witness until the end (Matthew 24:14).

Armstrongism has always been about the end times.  It's focus has always been on end time prophecy.  Just take a look at HWA's sermons and articles from the 1930's and 40's.  They were filled with one end time doomsday scenario after another.  Hitler, Germany, Japan, China, Italy and little green martians were all eagerly waiting for the right moment to bomb and destroy much of the America.  Those who would be left alive would be rounded up in concentration camps  and then be transported to Europe where they would be slaves for European Catholics.


Then moving on into the 60's and 70's you will find the church switching doomsday gear from Germany to environmental doomsday scenarios. Floods, famines, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornado's, etc. were all talked about with gleeful anticipation.  The more death and destruction predicted, the more special church members were to be called apart from it all.


Now with a black man as president, the COG's are back into their doomsday modes once again.  The US allowed a gentile to rule over them. There is the corrupt government filled with rotten politicians on both sides of the aisle. There are horrific stories about tornado's, hurricanes and earthquakes.  There is the rise of Germany as a financial giant and as a uniter in Europe.  There is China rising up as a world power. There is the weakening dollar and a failed economy.  All purported to be signs of the Armageddon (doomsday) ahead of us.


Prophet Thiel claims the church was never a doomsday cult.  Yet, when you look at the definition of the word "doomsday" in a Thesaurus, you will see that the Melbourne Weekly was 100% correct in it's descriiption of the WCG/COG/LCG:

Main Entry:	Day of Judgment
Part of Speech:	noun
Definition:	day of God's judgment of the human race
Synonyms:	Doomsday , Judgment Day, Last Day, Last Judgment, day of reckoning, the Judgment

Main Entry:	day of reckoning
Part of Speech:	noun
Definition:	day of God's judgment of the human race
Synonyms:	Day of Judgment, Doomsday , Judgment Day, Last Judgment, crack of doom, day of doom, doom, end of the world, trumpet of doom

Main Entry:	Judgment Day
Part of Speech:	noun
Definition:	day of reckoning
Synonyms:	Day of Judgment, Last Day, Last Judgment, court of conscience, crack of doom, doomsday , end of the world, the Judgment, tribunal of penance

Prophet Thiel goes on to write:

As far as preaching prophecies in the Bible that show that the Anglo-descended nations will be chastised if they do not repent, yes the old WCG and current LCG taught that (see Anglo – America in Prophecy & the Lost Tribes of Israel and Will the Anglo-Nations be Divided and Have People Taken as Slaves?).  But urging repentance is not a sign of being a doomsday cult.  It is a sign of trying to follow what Jesus said to do.  Notice, the following, that Jesus taught:

Armstrongism and LCG may pretend to preaching about following a "Jesus' but, their actions prove other wise.  It's all about death and destruction in a few short years to come.  Armstrongites needs to see death and destruction rain down around them. They need  to see the world spanked in order for them all to see that what the COG preached was true.  Without these chastised people bowing down before them they would not  be seen as real world leaders and teachers in the world tomorrow.  They need to have their lives legitimized for being followers of Armstrongism.

Prophet Thiel fails to realize that preaching a false teaching of British Israelism is not a warning message to the world.  The world does not care what Rod Meredith or LCG's preaches.  It has no message that is any meaning to the world at large, so people are not interested in it. When it's preaching is filled with so many leis and false teachings it is a good thing that no one cares!

Prophet Thiel concludes:

People should read and study the Bible.  Promoting misunderstandings about the Church of God is not good.

What about the hundreds of documented FAILED prophecies that HWA, Meredith, Flurry, Waterhouse, et all have uttered over the last seven decades?  Talk about promoting misunderstanding!  Meredith has lied to the church when he claimed to never have committee a major sin since baptism.  He has lied so many times about prophecy.  His false teaching lead to the mental breakdown of a church member who then murdered several LCG members. His heavy handed and ruthless treatment of ministers and members when he was Director of Church Administration is a black mark upon the church. Lives were literally destroyed by this man!  His obscene obsession with sex, particularity gay sex has made him out to be rather creepy dude!

Prophet Thiel and the LCG promote so many thigns as "truth" that they cause much misunderstanding about the Bible and Christianity  that it is NOT good! There is NO GOOD in the Living Church of God!

LCG Writes: God Is Not Pleased With Us Becasue We Squabble And Feed Our Selves

In a short blurb on LCG's "Tomorrows World News and Prophecy" they were discussing the sad state of affairs in Somalia and the famine that is killing men, women and children.  More than 29,000 children have died in the last three months alone.  Is LCG and it's members really concerned about them enough to do something? Is there a new LCG on the horizon?

Is LCG going to help alleviate the pain and suffering that parents have when their children die in front of their eyes?  What about the kids who lose their parents? Don't count on it!  LCG has no intention  of doing anything to help those people!  Instead they dish out their worthless religions rhetoric that they (LCG) think is comforting.

LCG, it the grand tradition of thinking of itself as the ONLY ONE TRUE CHURCH has this to say to the starving, the homeless, the poor, the hurting, the strange along side the road:  "Don't worry!  There is something better coming along sometime in the future.  God's going to fix it all for you.  Don't be foolish and morn your children.  They will have another chance sometime in the future.  If we give our money to you then we cannot preach a gospel that the world sorely needs.  It's more important to be on WGN at 3:00 in the morning than it is to ship a few bags of rice to feed you."  "You are not of British Israel stock, (which is apparent because of  your dark skin) and we need to focus our awesome message on white Israelite nations.  You will have your turn in the future after you have died."

What a loving Christian message LCG preaches to it's people and to the world!

But the ironic thing is that LCG continued that article with Bible quotations that they thought were aimed at the world around them.    They said:

However, there is a God who cares, and He instructed the prophet Ezekiel to write concerning the people of Jerusalem, “put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it” (Ezekiel 9:4)–God notices those who are saddened by atrocities they see around the globe! He is not pleased with people who squabble and “feed themselves,” while other human beings suffer. Jesus Christ also prophesied that one of the signs of the end of the age would be famines in various places that would kill many people (Matthew 24:7, Revelation 6:5-8).

LCG assumes this is an indictment against the those around the world who see the famines, the after effects of the earthquakes, floods, tsunami's, tornadoes, and hurricanes.  LCG assumes this scripture is about squabbling nations, and rich nations who have an abundance of food while others suffer.

What LCG fails to recognize is that this scripture is an indictment against the Living Church of God!  LCG and all the COG's are constantly squabbling and bickering with each other. They condemn and disfellowship each other with ease.  They continue to demand that members send in tithes to keep the Church and it's leaders in their fancy offices, their nice homes that are stocked with every pleasureful thing they can buy, their refrigerators and pantries overflowing with food.  Their riches increase as they turn a blind eye to the suffering around them.  They will not even help the homeless in Charlotte let alone half way around the world!

God  is not pleased with the people of LCG because they squabble and “feed themselves,” while other human beings suffer!