Dancing With Woofs
Sometimes It's Just More Fun
Woofs Unveiled at Last
Umm Dave...I don't howl because I lost my position, authority, salary and stuff...
Sometimes I miss my mama...
Sometimes I am being friendly...
Now granted, I can get a little defensive when I feel threatened or unsafe...But I am resilient
That's why every dog on the planet, including that living fetus of a Chihuahua came from ME.
Including Chewie the Wookie who lives with ME
...anyway...do go on
Dave Pack makes Anal-ogies
"Howling Wolves
Recall from
Zechariah 11:3 that certain shepherds will “howl” due to all that occurs: “There is a
voice of the
howling of the shepherds; for their glory is spoiled: a voice of the roaring of young lions; for the pride of Jordan is spoiled.”
First of all a better translation: " Listen to the wail of the shepherds; their rich pastures are destroyed! Listen to the roar of the lions; the lush thicket of the Jordan is ruined!"
CONTEXT: This verse has NOTHING to do with Christian ministers of any sort, much less Dave's view and howling about all the resources "out there" that need to come to him.. Cedars, Pine and Oaks refer to the Kings of Israel and they are the Shepherds and Lions in the context. The story is about Jews and Judah not ministers thousands of years into the future. Make all the analogies you want, but the context has nothing to do with howling ministers who didn't wake up in time to follow Dave Pack and now are out of luck. The exiles from the captivity are returning and finding Jerusalem pretty torn up and it was painful to see for the returnees.
I know this is hard to grasp for some if not most, but those portions of the Book of Zechariah that seem to foreshadow Jesus Gospel story are redacted into the story of Jesus. The Gospel writers "searched the scriptures" to write the story of Jesus which is why it seems so prophetically accurate. The 30 pieces of silver story has NOTHING to do with Judas and everything to do with Zechariah. This story is used to tell the story of Judas but takes it all out of context and mixes up throwing money back at the priests with the Potters Field story. Long story but true.
Dave notes:
"Again, the lions are probably Israeli political, military and religious leaders who are anguished over having been abandoned and betrayed by their fellow Israelite allies. But who are the shepherds that howl?"
Comment: The shepherds are also the Kings and leaders and also the literal shepherds who lost their fields to war and the literal lions lost their thickets in Jordan. They are NOT COG pastors who should know better and should now follow Dave Pack. Most of the full time past ministry in the splinters do know Dave Pack and this is the main reason they aren't budging.
"We now know more about
why certain “shepherds” are howling.
Shepherds obviously references ministers—but what kind?
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, thanks for playing. Obvious to your analogy but not obvious to the context. These are anguished men (in fact, you will see they are wolves) who were recently over part of
God’s flock.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, wrong. There is nothing recent about Zechariah's lament. God's flock in context are the Jews and Judah. Because of what they have just witnessed—and lost—they are howling in grief. The reference cannot be to worldly ministers. The apostle Paul described false ministers as “grievous wolves” in
Acts 20:29. Since shepherds do not howl, this group of men is simply better thought of as “howling wolves.”
Comment: Correct. The comment cannot be a reference to "worldly ministers," neither is it a reference to the "Unworldly COG ministry." The Apostle Paul was considered a "grievous wolf" by the Jewish Christians of the day and recall they threw him out of Ephesus as one who claimed to be an Apostle, "but was not." For this, Revelation Jesus congratulated the Jewish Christian and Noahide abiding Church.
"A fascinating article appeared recently from the
BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) titled “Howling wolves give clue to top dog.” Beyond fascinating, the article details much more about the nature of wolves, particularly when
pack leaders are removed or die (Removing the Pack leader would be awesome and good for the mental health of those still gyrating in their seats at RCG.). Here are excerpts we will read before making conclusions:
“Wolves howl more when a close companion or high-ranking group member leaves [or is killed].”
This can explain why Dave yells so loud at those who disagree with them. Maybe it's just me but it also doesn't take a psychiatrist to note that the closer you are to someone the more you grieve when they are sick, missing or dead.
“That’s what scientists found when they analysed how captive wolves reacted when one was taken to the forest for a walk."
Sometimes Good Sheep just mess with ya!
Captive wolves...great word there. Like Dale Schurter and the next to no one who came to RCG in the last Great Unification Screw Up?
“Known to be social creatures, the work further emphasises the importance of a wolf’s relationships within its pack.
As far as can be told, the relationship of the wolves with "The Pack" seems to be one of submission and compliance. Cowering and keeping what they really think inside is probably the better course of action in RCG if you wish to keep a car, a home or a paycheck, which are the very things Dave thinks is the ONLY reason ministers won't come over to him. Those aren't the reasons at all. Dave being dead wrong, with silly and weird ideas about himself and his place in scripture tend to be what holds them back.
“Friederike Range from the University of Veterinary Medicine Vienna, Austria, who co-authored the work said the wolves were communicating to each other just how important they were."
Well as the Alpha Wolf in RCG, I can understand that coming from David. The RCG wolves spend much time communicating to each other just how important they were and are. I mean, come on, "Watcher", "And yes brethren, I am an Apostle", and "HWA was Zerubbabel and I am Joshua the High Priest" isn't exactly bottom of the food chain.
“‘We didn’t know there was some flexibility on how much they howl depending on their relationship. The amount of howling is really defined by the quality of the relationship.’ Dr Range said.
Exactly, that's why those closest to Dave in the past, write the most and expose the darker side of RCG employment and office drama . They had a sincere and quality relationship with Christ through Dave and it rather blew up in the faces when they saw the real "Behind the Work" shenanigans.
“She told BBC News that the wolves howled differently depending on which one was taken away.”
Well duh...when "mere elders" are taken away, no biggy. Mere Elders are NOTHING in RCG. When you lose an Agreer or two the howls get a bit more distinct. Of course, some Alphas don't give a rats ass about who leaves or why because they can be replaced easily.
"The research explained that if a lesser-ranking wolf is removed, wolves howl differently. Experts have learned to distinguish these unique differences in the way wolves howl. The article quoted Dr. Simon Townsend, “‘Wolves seem to howl more when
higher ranking individuals leave because these individuals play quite important roles in the social lives of wolves.’”
This seems true of all creatures including humans and is hardly a trait of just wolves. My goldfish grieved and bubbled howls when her buddy fish croaked. Is some "Higher ranking individual" in RCG about to leave? Just askin'
"Another interesting element of wolves is that they do not howl when the top wolf is away at a distance. They seem to know the wolf is safe and they are okay. If the wolf is gone, they seem to know the wolf is alive. They only howl when the wolf is gone at a
great distance or has been killed. In light of
Zechariah 11:8, the meaning becomes obvious.
(obvious to Dave not others...)
I assume this means the relatively few RCG ministers who are stuck away from RCG HQ follow all instructions and agree 100% with Alpha Dave and feel safe and ok with that even though Dave is way over in Wadsworth? When Dave travels, they are ok with that and will keep the sheep too afraid to move in his absence.
"Let’s summarize who these howling shepherds are by eliminating who they are
not. (1) They are certainly not the
faithful shepherds who would rejoice at deliverance and reunification of God’s people, and that they can now serve more of them.
Correct: They are the Kings and leaders of Judah in context, which is not a well known concept in the COGs. (2) They cannot be
hirelings who the Bible says flee when wolves are present.
Correct: They are the Kings and leaders of Judah in context, which is not a well known concept in the COGs. (3) They cannot be the three top wolves who will have by this time been “cut off.”
Correct: They are the Kings and leaders of Judah in context, which is not a well known concept in the COGs. Dave likes that "top wolf concept. It's not that he hates wolves so much as he hates not being the Alpha Wolf, IMHO.
"Conclusion: They can only be the remaining wolves among the splinters whom God left out of the reunification of His people.
(Ummm...no) Certainly God would not include WOLVES in His Plan for those with His Spirit to come back together.
(Oh for Pete's sake. Wolves are part of the ecosystem) These would not hear His voice, and would be howling over the
loss of position, authority and salary." (They probably howl over the strange and weird ideas coming out of Wadsworth).
Ok Dave...we gotta talk. No real God is going to blame anyone for NOT FOLLOWING YOU. If push comes to shove, He can forgive them but I doubt this is the problem. No one wants to work for a dictator who abides no criticism and sets all the rules, policies , doctrines and agenda without actual input. Input is great if it agrees with your foregone conclusions. Input is fatal to those who try to warn you and do that "in the multitude of counsel" thing. You were so so wrong about this past Summer. Not just a little wrong. You messed up big time with your boasts and sure fire conclusions. Christ was going to do much but must have been out of town and didn't tell you. You can erase and edit all you want but YOU WERE VERY VERY WRONG. And no real man in ministry or not would ever answer your 35 ridiculous scrotum removing "repentance" and self evisceration essays that could apply just as much to you as anyone. Those who do should be ashamed of themselves and realize we don't think much of their leadership potential concerning all things God.
Being left out of your reunification plans is not something a real man would regret and that loss of position, authority and salary is more the kind of thing you fear losing and always have.
Dave then goes on to tell us there will be no new date but is banking on Passover of 2014 which evidently is not really a date of any kind in Dave's mind. Boy, that's a weird and strange idea if I ever heard one.
In case you missed it...
"I want to make a statement about...me...now, if I became deceived, I will never tell you what I'm going to tell you now...I am telling you if I go off into strange ideas, misconduct, rebellion, you name it, don't follow me. I want to tell you that now, because if I start doing that I'm gonna try to get you to follow me! I'm gonna come to you and tell you it doesn't apply, it doesn't mean me, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's OK to follow me because ABCD and XY and Z. Do you understand what I'm saying? Listen to me now, when I tell you don't follow me if I go off into weird ideas, or if I get off into other things that are total absolutely unscriptural conduct, because if I do I'm gonna paint it with a different face and try to get you to follow me. Do you understand what I'm saying brethren? Please remember that, because I promise you that if I become deceived, I'll forget it, and I'll want you to forget it...And I hope you'll remember it well enough to quote it right back to me...But I'll tell you what, I'm not going anywhere." (Oh yes you did...)
Anyway, I love Woofs and would dance with them in a minute. Reputed Pillars so called give Woofs a bad reputation.
I'm just sayin'...
