Friday, January 22, 2021

The Restored Church of God: Who's Sorry Now?


It was back during one of Dave Pack's delusional prophecies, now completely failed and replaced by others of equal or greater failure value, that Dave made up a questionnaire for any splinter ministers, who might be drawn to RCG and regain minister status, to fill out in full  Dave's intrusive and self humiliating questionnaire.  It can only be assumed that now, all those men under Dave Pack's thumb in ministry have passed with flying colors or they would not be in the position they are in. 

Why did you do that?  Why are you so unable or unwilling to see the completely failed ministry of David C. Pack by now? 

 Can you not recognize Dave's narcissistic needs and that he is using you to fulfill them?

Do you know a personality disorder when you see one?

Why can't you recognize delusional thinking and one theologically misguided teaching after another?

How can you  really believe Dave Pack is spoken of in scripture?


Why does that not make you uncomfortable that he believes he is?

 Is it position you love in an organization that virtually no one on the planet has ever heard of?  

Do you enjoy repressing your views and thoughts , which I assume are sincere and hopeful with regards to all things theological, in favor of saying "yes sir" to Dave's thoughts on all things which time and again have proven to be totally false?

What are you afraid of?  Loss in income?  loss of self esteem (You have already lost it I suspect) ? What others will think of you? Family problems and consequences?


Why do you tolerate one failure after another in Dave's prophetic fantasies?

Did you think last FOT that Dave was really going to walk away and "not return to his home" because Jesus was coming by the end of the Feast?

Just how many times can you endure "We didn't understand but now I do" apologetic repeatedly following each failure in his dangerous theological games? 

How much of your authentic one of a kind self have you had to  repress to pump up  and fuel Dave Pack's ego and ludicrous vision of himself?

Why can't you even see Dave Pack has a ludicrous vision of himself?

Do you ever consider the danger you are putting your family in following Dave and being in RCG?

Ever thought "I hope we don't end up on the front page with all this"? 

Are you simply hoping Dave will calm down, settle in, and let you teach I Cor 13 to your members and drop the Old Testament view of God and the Prophets for the New Testament one of Jesus and Paul? 

Is it possible you don't understand that all the soon, shortly, quickly and nights being far spent is not for you today and simply the mistaken notion of the people to whom it was written?

Is it possible Dave Pack presenting falsehoods enthusiastically are still falsehoods?

How would that realization change your ministry and your life?

Are you afraid of being disillusioned?

Why would you want to believe illusions?

Why did you agree to taking Dave Pack's "So you want to be in the RCG ministry?" emasculating and intrusive questionnaire? 

Are you secretly sorry you had to but at least you got in?

In case you forgot what you agreed to inform, admit and reveal to get back into ministry.

Dave required you to answer...
 

(3) Established Doctrine and Tradition

  • In what doctrines or traditions do you believe Mr. Armstrong “got it wrong”? (Include all areas—be specific.)


(4) Did you actively resist false doctrine in your ministry?—or give safe sermons where you disagreed? (Be specific.)

6) Why should you still be considered for the ministry in God’s Church?

  • Why should God’s flock ever again be entrusted to your care?
  • Are you prepared to re-win brethren’s trust, including brethren now here whom you will likely also pastor? What about re-winning the trust of Headquarters?

(9) Do you now believe again that Christ works solely through one unified organization?

(10) In light of government(s) you followed, how do you see God’s government today?


(15) Are you willing to temporarily or permanently become an associate pastor?

(16) Are you willing to be excluded from the ministry until you requalify?

(18) If your ordination(s) is(are) invalid, are you interested in being re-trained for Christ’s true
ministry?

(19) Do you believe ministers should be able to voice opinions to others about:

  • Where Headquarters is “wrong”?
  • What Mr. Armstrong taught/said/did “wrong”?
  • What Mr. Pack teaches/says/does “wrong”?
  • Where your boss is “wrong” or harsh, etc.?
  • Where you disagree doctrinally?

(20) Do you consider yourself as having been (rate yourself from 5 being best to 0 being worst):

  • Weak                  
  • Cowardly
  • Slothful
  • Covetous
  • Confused
  • Compromising
  • Foolish
  • Political (And did you ever “run for office” in a splinter?)
  • Heretical
  • Deceitful
  • Easily deceived
  • Betrayed your calling


(21) Why did you lose the ability to “discern good from evil” (Heb. 5:13-14)?—and for so long?

(22) What do you consider to be your ministerial rank?

(23) Are you prepared to dedicate the rest of your life to serving God’s flock and fixing completely
the horrific mess you helped cause in so many lives?

(24) In light of how you once saw Mr. Armstrong, do you still recognize the fruits of a true apostle when you see one

(25) Describe your spiritual condition today. (Also, rate your temperature from 0-10, with 10 the highest.)

(26) What 5 biggest lessons did you learn from and since the apostasy? (In order of importance.)

(29) Having now long abandoned many doctrines you said you would never leave, how would you convince Headquarters that this time you “mean it” if you intend to now “hold fast” (Rev. 3:11)?

(31) Are you prepared to spend a full year (or more) catching up with all you must unlearn, relearn, and learn new?

(33) How would you prove that you are still Spirit-led?—or were ever Spirit-led?

(35) What did you do after reading the article “God’s People Back Together—SOON!”?


If you need to talk confidentially, please get in touch.  If I can't help or my personal dislike of what Dave Pack represents makes you uncomfortable,  I will point you towards those that can and who want to help you make the best and well thought out transition possible

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Thursday, January 21, 2021

Snapshot of Bob Thiel's Passover Set Up This Year

 


Dave Pack: I like shredding brains with my prophecies...

 


In part 277 of his over 280 part sermon series, 
Dave Pack, (false) Apostle of The Restored Church of God, 
boasts of shredding brains. 

His prophecies are so complex, they even cause sleepless nights. 
Where is the Simplicity in Christ?