Dave Pack Continues To Over Sell His Importance

 

Mal-Nourished

                 

David C. Pack is becoming increasingly difficult to understand. “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 418)” on February 9 is another message you never want to hear twice.

 

Even after the last two articles were posted, I again listened to the first seven minutes because I wondered if I had heard him correctly. The wicked shall not understand. Am I just a wicked man who is not allowed to understand God's blessed knowledge?

 

Dave speaks like he has a handle on the situation. But, what he says and how he says it has the ideas of many conflicting voices. The molestation of words to hide biblical fraud and excuse prophetic error sounds like it came from Legion.

 

Habakkuk 2:2, “that he may TAKE HIS TIME that reads it.”

 

2 Timothy 2:15, “…need not to be ashamed, DIVIDE BUT GO SLOWER the word of truth.”

 

Maybe it is a good thing I cannot see it the way Dave teaches it. If anything, the man keeps me on my toes, considering my ways and striving to be extra careful with sharp observations.

 

We all must stand before the judgment seat of Christ. My words will justify or condemn me as much as Dave's. Our scales shall be measured equally.

 

If a pure language existed now, David C. Pack would never be able to pervert words like he does. Not only does he toy with Hebrew and Greek, squinting and turning sideways to make it say what he wants, but he mangles English without shame.

 

He stretches definitions, interweaving the actual meaning with his own assertions to give the illusion his point is correct. Language is saltwater taffy that David C. Pack pulls and twists to his own will. Much like the biblical math consisting of fickle numbers, words can be presented in any manipulative fashion necessary for a minister of righteousness to reveal his character.

 

David C. Pack is confusing because he is confused. He is deceiving because he is deceived. God is not guiding him, and history testifies to that.

 

The brethren of The Restored Church of God accept living in a perpetual state of starvation. They have grown accustomed to being spiritually malnourished. It is a sad thing to witness.

 

 

Breaking past the seven-minute barrier of Part 418, Dave accosted a third word so a new flimsy timeline could be manufactured.

 

Revelation 12:14, “…where she is NOURISHED for a time, and times, and a half a time…”

 

Before he could just get to it, he had to prove how qualified he was to proclaim such things. After all, everyone should take notice that David C. Pack doodies in the toilet, not in his pants.

 

@ 09:32 Now, let’s talk for a moment about the Book of Revelation. I wanna illustrate a point. I can virtually do this without turning through the book. So let me just do it. I can see the whole book in my mind without opening the Bible. I can virtually. Virtually the entire book.

 

And that is one of his major problems. The virtual version in his mind is different than the actual version everyone else has. Nobody adds to and takes away from the words of the prophecy of this book more than David C. Pack.

 

If he accepted the printed words by reading slowly and carefully, The Restored Church of God would not be in the current circumstance of chaos and confusion that rules the day.

 

For those interested in a three-minute synopsis of how David C. Pack understands Revelation, this clip is for you. Warning: Only Bible scholars and prophecy enthusiasts should partake.

 

@ 14:44 …and it’s an interesting example of another powerful word I so wish I had explored. It would have changed a lot.

 

So much for God's word being purified seven times. What a waste that was if it only applied to the original Hebrew and Greek. Too bad it all fell apart by the time it got to English.

 

Much like a relay race where the first three laps are perfect, but the last one blows it. If you cannot get to the finish line, then all the effort before it was wasted.

 

@ 14:52 And what I'm gonna do now is show you a side of our God none of us have ever understood. Ever understood. One of the greatest mysteries that the Bible contains, I'm gonna explain to you now, and you've never heard one word about it. And its own statement (yet again) of how the Series could hardly been over until this was explained. 

 

He is really over-selling the importance of this “discovery” of his. Some will yawn when they hear it. I did.

 

I do not know what god Dave serves, but I already knew about this side of the True God. This word does not unlock any mysteries. The Series could have been over with Part 4, and everyone in RCG would have been much better off. This includes Dave.

 

@ 21:35 And here’s where a tremendous mistranslation lost one of the wonderful things about God. And this is gonna develop into something very powerful before we’re done.

 

It is not a mistranslation. Nothing about God was lost. Nothing powerful develops. Every part of this is false. It matters to Dave and Dave alone. He conjured these notions in the first place, so his ideas are what changed.

 

His whole build-up is that the "three and a half days" of Daniel 12:7 are not the same as in Revelation 12:14. If only that short period would stop moving around in the Bible, Dave could crack the DaVinci Code and go on vacation.

 

@ 21:47 One word changes all. The word "nourished." "And they were nourished for three and a half days." Now, here's what that means. It means they were "cherished." The word means "to pamper." They were pampered. “To fatten.” It also can mean "rear them."

 

See? Yawn.

 

Maybe because my wicked heart has been darkened, “nourished” and “cherished” do not seem too far off from each other. If you cherish a child, you nourish, feed, pamper, and raise them. Just like the verse says.

 

Interestingly, G5142 is not translated as “cherish” in the New Testament. It occurs eight times and four of which as “feed.” “Nourish” is three times.

 

This is no mistranslation. It is a David C. Pack fabrication. Or maybe it exposes bald stupidity.

 

This revelation in Revelation does NOT change our perception of God. This hid nothing. This changed nothing in the understanding of Revelation 12:14. But Dave goes on and on and on about how much it does. He shouts and points his way through illusion and vapor.

 

So, this word exposes his delusion rather than deception. But at this point, what is the difference?

 

People of The Restored Church of God, are you paying attention to your Pastor General? Do you hear what he is saying? How is any of this coming from God?

 

 

Daniel 7 and Revelation 12 describe two different "three and a half day" periods.

 

@ 22:43 That is utterly incompatible with three and a half days where God’s people are being shattered and destroyed and blown apart. It could never have been the same three and a half days. See why I wish I’d have looked up that word?

 

How about just reading the English, Dave? Maybe the virtual Book of Revelation in your head is not as trustworthy as the one on paper. Only a biblical nincompoop could read that verse and not understand what “nourish” means.

 

David C. Pack’s astonishing piss-poor reading comprehension skills are now legendary.

 

@ 22:59 But where it led me after this is what’s extraordinary.

 

For the next 69 minutes, Dave runs all over the place with this and that because a new piece of the puzzle was discovered. The end result is the same: error upon error upon error upon error. Yet, somehow this process will reach the status of truth in the end.

 

Is it possible to reach a truth based on lies? Like in algebra, where two negatives are multiplied to make a positive. Dave attacks the Bible the same way.

 

It is almost as if he spends the next 69 minutes convincing himself rather than the audience. Deep down, he knows he is a fraud but pushes through in hard-hearted denial. The rest of the message is more of a CYA exercise than bestowing knowledge upon God's people.

 

 

Dave attacks his own thinking with passion as if it came from some blasphemous outside source. He almost seems angry someone ever believed it. Oh yeah…he did.

@ 30:04 So then lemme just state again, The three and a half days here were never some kind of worse, really bad end at the ten of the ten days of the Great Tribulation. It had nothing to do with that. It’s so bad that they’ve gotta be there for the three and a half days that matches Daniel 12:7.

 

He repeats himself from eight minutes earlier to make it true.

 

In the end, all this tossing to and fro will amount to nothing for David C. Pack and the members of RCG. No matter how loud he shouts, no matter how fiercely he gestures, no matter how many Bible verses he staples together, he will never come to the correct conclusion about the return of Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God.

 

 

"Nourish" really means "cherish," and the sky cracked open.

 

The brethren are in dire need of spiritual food that is not poisonous. The hirelings allow the sheep to remain famished. But the wolves are just fine, feasting upon them.

 

The people of The Restored Church of God are malnourished. The pen door is left open, yet they sit still, hoping the Good Shepherd will come along to take care of it for them.

 

How many will starve to death patiently waiting with false hope for David C. Pack to get timing figured out?

 

The sad answer is: All of them because David C. Pack will never be right.

Marc Cebrian

See: Mal-Nourished

Just as predicted, self-appointed crackpot COG prophet melts down over those Jesus Super Bowl commercials

 

We see conflict all around us. We align ourselves on different sides of the fight in battles of politics, religion, justice, and too often, we let that conflict morph from a dignified defense of something good into a dehumanizing attack on the people we don’t agree with. It’s tearing us apart.

But Jesus offered us an alternative as an example — and his solution wasn’t to grow apathetic and avoid the conflict altogether. He showed us something else entirely, a third way. His response to the ever-increasing volume of hate and conflict was love. Not just any love — confounding, sacrificial, selfless love. You see, Jesus still stood up for what he believed in. He defended the defenseless, spoke up on behalf of the voiceless, even flipped a few tables, but in everything he did, he first moved with love toward the people he disagreed with. What if we tried to love our enemies the way Jesus loved his? How would it change the tenor of our conflicts and our conversations?

Right on cue, as many predicted here, our illustrious self-appointed prophet of Sabbatarian heresies and questionable dreams had a meltdown over the Super Bowl commercials on Jesus. 

Two ads were bought to be aired during the Super Bowl talking about how Jesus "gets us" since he was one of us.

Nothing infuriates a self-righteous Church of God minister more than Jesus being mentioned, except maybe if you do not tithe regularly to them. Only "true" COG ministers know the "real" Jesus while those dumb stupid converted so-called "Christians" of the world know a "different" Jesus.

The great Bwama to Africa and a couple hundred Caucasians had this to say as he starts devaluing Jesus as an unknown figure to Christians around the world, just because old Herbert said so.

The Great Bwana also drags Paul into the mix, assuming that he was speaking about false Christians at the end of time, when in fact he was most likely talking about false COG preachers in the midst of the church preaching their false "christ". Paul knew that the professional Juadizers would ramp up their legalism and deliberately change the teaching of Christ to fit their Judaizing tendencies.

Many who claim Christianity do not know the real Jesus. The Apostle Paul warned that this type of thing could happen:

2 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted — you may well put up with it! (2 Corinthians 11:2-4)

Dave Pack: the Mr. Magoo of words

No Rush

                 

David C. Pack’s strange drug analogy has done him no favors. During “The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 418)” on February 9, he confessed that words are his heroin.

 

Part 418 – February 9, 2023

@ 01:41 I love words. I can't get enough of them…They are, I guess, my heroin.

 

Brad rolled his eyes at the back of the hall, no doubt.

 

David C. Pack loves to say words but is irritated when he hears them.

 

He manipulates words. He distorts words. He uses words as a weapon against critical thinking. He cannot be trusted with words. He lies and steals to support his habit. His own words are destroying his credibility. Wow. Maybe that smack parallel was dead on, after all.

 

Those who accurately publish the words of David C. Pack are perceived as enemies.

 

When David C. Pack says words, it means he was inspired by God.

 

When those exact words are exposed, it is inspired by the Devil.

 

Chew on that for a while.

 

During Part 418, Dave assaults THREE words to excuse his failure and prove the next iteration of his delusional prophetic construct. His typical maneuver is to find the most obscure definition in a Strong’s Concordance that will satiate his desire, then grasp that teat and suckle with all his might.

 

Habakkuk 2:2, “that he may RUN that reads it.”

 

2 Timothy 2:15, “…need not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth.”

 

Revelation 12:14, “…where she is NOURISHED for a time, and times, and a half a time…”

 

David C. Pack abuses words as would a whorish junkie. His corruption is blatant and pathetic.

 

But it is more than that.

 

The man is caught lying. The Pastor General running The Restored Church of God lied. Watch.

 

 

Dave revises his perception of Habakkuk 2:2 by admitting to misunderstanding his own misunderstanding.

 

@ 02:00 We're gonna look at the word that has a very different meaning than the one under which we have been laboring.

 

The only “we” part of that is Dave and Team Incompetent at Headquarters.

 

@ 02:27 “…Write the vision and make it plain on tables that he may run that calls it out.” All right. "Run" is the Hebrew word ruts…And it means "especially to rush." And that was kind of what I saw. But I never looked to see all the ways the word is translated.

 

Because he never needed to before. The already-perverted interpretation of Habakkuk 2:2, repeated for years and years and years, is about to change. Be seated for this.

 

@ 02:55 And what the word primarily means is "break it down." Break it down. Now, that matches "make it plain." Break it down. Now it means "divide the picture speedily," and it means "guard it." Now, none of those have anything to do with the speed other than divide it, break it down, guard it. You could say, do it reasonably fast.

 

This is the most tortured, back-and-forth explanation Dave has uttered in recent memory. The war between his ears is real. The battle between reality and imagination is being fought on the ground, sea, air, and outer space.

 

He just said, "none of those have anything to do with the speed," but in the very next sentence, "do it reasonably fast." I never graduated from college, but my limited understanding of English causes me to associate “speed” with “fast.”

 

Perhaps Brad could utilize his keen science skills to explain to Dave how “speed” and “fast” relate. Or he could write me at exrcgwebsite@gmail.com to explain how they do not.

 

@ 03:24 And the word means "to stretch out." Stretch it out. Now that would be the opposite of really rushing or running. In other words, it's almost saying, "take your time."

 

WHAT!?! Dave just interpreted the word “run” to actually mean “take your time.”

 

Edward Winkfield was crying in his seat during this explanation. I wonder if he had to excuse himself to the bathroom so he could wipe the cold sweat from his brow. Did you take a good, long look in the mirror, Ed? If not, after Part 418, you need to.

 

Elijah is not supposed to “rush to call it out” any longer? Elijah is commanded to take his time? What?

Dave should have been chanting for the last seven years, "It's no rush to call it out. We've got time."

 

 

Dave proves he is the Mr. Magoo of words.

 

This is where his piss-poor reading comprehension skills drive past Hebrew and Greek to blow through the walls of basic English. He nodded off at the wheel with the needle still in his arm.

 

ruwts (H7323)

A primitive root; to run (for whatever reason, especially to rush): - break down, divide speedily, footman, guard, bring hastily, (make) run (away, through), post, stretch out.

 

There are 103 occurrences in the Old Testament, according to Strong's. This word was translated as "stretch out" once, which is why it was the LAST POSSIBLE meaning.

 

Psalm 68:31

Princes shall come out of Egypt; Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hands unto God.

 

That is so funny. That one time Dave needs “stretch out” to relate to speed, it does not. Dooh.

 

When you stretch out your hand, are you slowing it down or extending it? Yeah, well, Dave does not get that. He needs it to mean slow down, so slow down is what he asserts.

 

No. I have to take that back. This scenario is worse than that. Dave KNOWS what it really means but is willfully lying to everyone.

 

David C. Pack stood at the lectern in the Main Hall at The Restored Church of God Headquarters in Wadsworth on Thursday, February 9, 2023, and knowingly lied to the faces of the paid staff.

 

Care to challenge me on that, Brad? Dr. Ranney has my number.

 

Dave knows “stretch out” did not mean “take your time” but presented that anyway because the people in their seats did not have a laptop with eSword fired up. Only those who care enough to follow along with eSword and Strong’s Concordance would catch him.

 

Busted, bitch.

 

He knew this but pushed deeper into that thinking anyhow.

 

David C. Pack is not a man to be trusted. He seems incapable of speaking the truth anymore. Facts expose the lies David C. Pack shamelessly tells The Restored Church of God.

 

The Expanded Exhaustive Concordance is more detailed than the short summary in eSword. The heroin Dave loves so much is what discredits him.

 

ruwts (H7323)

1) Ruwts signifies moving very quickly or hastening, rather than running

2) It can mean to run

3) In a military sense, the charging into battle

 

There is even more along those lines, but you get the picture.

 

Despite all the evidence, Dave pushes on in an incredibly convoluted way to sell his point. Watch him twist and contort, trying his best not to show his hand. He knows he is performing verbal gymnastics.

 

@ 03:37 It involves “what you are going to explain, do it kinda quickly. But stretch it out. Be plain. Break it down. Be kind of fast but granular.” And I guess 418 messages with this one, it was stretched out. Now what's interesting is there is a speed element to it.

 

In one sentence, “stretch” means to “take your time.” In another sentence, “stretch” means to “extend it out.” Is this a multiple personality disorder expressing itself?

 

The man is not making any sense. That is not being snarky. He really makes no sense.

 

Stretch it out, but kinda quickly? The laws of physics just broke in Wadsworth.

 

Follow his logic string to get from “run” to “take your time.”

 

run --> rush --> break it down --> stretch it out --> take your time

 

In the mind of David C. Pack, to run means to take your time. As a fun exercise, go through the Bible and replace “run” with “take your time.” This creates plenty of humorous moments.

 

Genesis 18:2

…three men stood by him: and when he [Abram] saw them, he TOOK HIS TIME to meet them from the tent door and bowed himself toward the ground.

 

Joel 2:7

They shall TAKE THEIR TIME like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war…

 

Nahum 2:4

…they shall seem like torches, they TAKE THEIR TIME like the lightnings.

 

David C. Pack’s fraud is so desperate even the Bible can no longer hide his trickery.

 

But it gets even worse.

 

 

@ 04:01 Turn over to Second Timothy for a moment. And let's notice something about God's ministers and what they're supposed to be able to do. In fact, we have to be able to do this.

 

David C. Pack is about to prove how incapable he and the hirelings at Headquarters are.

 

@ 04:42 Now, words are important, but people can get hung up on them. Start splitting hairs and straining at gnats and swallowing camels and can subvert people. Overthrow them.

 

This is precisely what the man is doing. Irony is banging on the door.

 

Watch Dave slide between truth and error. He smeared his body with Crisco, so he could glide from fact to fiction inside the same sentence leaving the audience unaware of which is which.

 

@ 04:55 But as a result of that, or therefore, because "study to show yourself approved under God a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." Now, the word “study” is spoudazō, remember. And that means "use speed." It means "use speed," but "rightly dividing" means "go slower." And it's the word orthotomeō.

 

“Rightly dividing” is used once and does not mean “go slower.”

 

orthotomeō (G3718)

From a compound of G3717 and the base of G5114; to make a straight cut, that is, (figuratively) to dissect(expound) correctly (the divine message): - rightly divide.

 

A valuable addition to the definition is found in the Expanded Exhaustive Concordance.

 

What is intended here is not “dividing” Scripture from Scripture, but teaching Scripture accurately, carefully discerning each nuance.

 

That is NOT what David C. Pack or the enablers at Headquarters of The Restored Church of God are doing. If they were, “The Greatest Untold Story!” Series would be long-dead, and Dave would be stuffing mailers for a living in his studio apartment in Akron.

 

Dave slipped in his own idea without tipping off the audience. That act was so appealing he does it again. Maybe the dopamine kick of dishonesty was already wearing off.

 

@ 05:26 Rightly divide it. Break it down. Divide it speedily. That's the Hebrew. And it means "make straight cuts." And it also means "dissect or expound correctly," but do it quickly.

 

He takes two disconnected verses and holds them up as supporting each other.

 

David C. Pack inserts his own distortions into the Hebrew and Greek words, then puts them into a verbal blender to create a malarkey shake of biblical sorcery.

 

How is this not walking in craftiness?

 

Speed has nothing to do with “rightly dividing.” But, the audience would not know that unless they fact-check him afterward.

 

@ 05:50 Now, they almost seem like opposites. If you're gonna get things right, go slow. "Haste makes waste and makes mistakes." But God's ministers are supposed to be able to, and they're told to, move fast and be right at the same time. And that's not always possible.

 

How is this not handling the word of God deceitfully? He is blaming the Bible for his shortcomings again. God was asking the “not always possible” of His ministers. That is not a god I would want to serve.

 

Dave molested “run” in Habakkuk and “rightly divide” in 2 Timothy just so he could arrive here:

 

@ 06:19 So, there was never any real rush, per se, that I thought pertained to a last message or two or five. It was "cover, maybe, a lot of material, but get it right." And hope I have done that.

 

David C. Pack will never get it right. That is a fool’s hope.

 

His explanations regarding those Hebrew and Greek words are nonsensical, illogical, and false. This is the twisted thinking of the guy running a church.

 

@ 06:38 The meaning was always entirely different than what we thought. It is not a statement about how the last messages I would be sorta running in here and delivering them and rushing through the material. So, it was not a signal at any point that we were near the end. We all know we are now.

 

Entirely different than what HE thought. And yet, none of his conclusions are valid. The words do not mean what he now says they mean. That is not an opinion. The facts bear that out plainly.

 

Dave is the one who always sells the-end-is-nigh for whatever mathematical or metric-related reason. But, it is never HIS fault. The Bible is to blame. God is to blame. Those dirty, rotten, stinking translators screwed him again.

 

The “we weren’t then, but we are now” line is tired. Have pity on the misguided folks in RCG who still believe that after the previous 417 derps.

 

 

Wow. That was the first seven minutes of Part 418. Did I over-sell its madness?

 

The molestation of “nourished” in Revelation 12:14 is not so much a blatant lie as it is just stupid. Dave plays dumb with that word to get him into another timeline for prophetic disappointment. That will be covered in another article.

 

 

It is no exaggeration to say David C. Pack is deteriorating. We are witnessing the mental downfall of a devious, arrogant human being who resorts to falsifying definitions to buy more unwarranted credibility in the eyes of the members of The Restored Church of God.

 

His treachery is easier to spot because his desperation grows more frantic.

 

There is a massive conscience BBQ behind the closed gates in Wadsworth on Super Bowl Sunday.

 

The men at Headquarters know who and what David C. Pack is. Yet, they keep their mouths shut and continue to cash the checks. They see him lie, but they excuse it. It is sad to think that all the men with any integrity have already departed.

 

These enablers stand alongside a documented liar:

 

Bradford Schleifer - Edward Winkfield - Ryan Denee - Jaco Viljoen

Kenneth Orel - Carl Houk - Timothy Ranney - Salasi Jezhi

James Habboush - Andrew Holcombe - Frank Lydick - Raymond Garb

 

Brethren of RCG, “Why does your Pastor General lie to you in order to prove his truthfulness?”

 

You can ask any of those men, but remember…there is no rush.

 

Marc Cebrian

See: No Rush