James Tabor:The Perils of Predicting the End of the Age

 

More reasons why you cannot trust Bob Thiel, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, and the other prophets of doom in the Churches of God.

Notes to accompany the above series can be found here.

Dave Pack: "We are witnessing the unfettered reality of who this man is."

 

Heartfelt Apologies

 

David C. Pack is experiencing a very long day.

 

Like what was described in Joshua 10, where God held the sun in the sky until Israel's battle against the Amorites was won, Dave will be experiencing an extended failure of his own creation. 

 

For two months and sixteen sermons, The Restored Church of God has been anticipating the arrival of Abib 1, which begins the Kingdom to Israel when Elijah the Prophet rocks the world.

 

The head of shame is crowning as RCG is about to give birth to another prophetic embarrassment.

 

Abib 1 begins today at sunset in Jerusalem at 11:51 AM ET. Sunset in Wadsworth is 7:41 PM ET.

 

Sunrise in Jerusalem is at 11:39 PM ET tonight, and in Wadsworth is at 7:25 AM ET Thursday morning.

 

Abib 1 ends in Jerusalem at 11:52 AM ET and in Wadsworth at 7:42 PM ET on March 23, 2023.

 

Once the ending threshold for Abib 1 is crossed, David C. Pack will once again officially enters the annals of history as a false prophet and not-so-shiny Angel of Light. All who have eyes to see and ears to hear will observe The Restored Church of Another god manifest in true form.

 

Part 430 – March 18 – 2023

@ 1:29:51 We backed into the day. You can’t back past Abib 1. Can’t be done.

 

Prepare for much spin and excuses to follow.

 

 

"The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 430)" on March 18, 2023, is a must-watch for false prophecy enthusiasts and former members. The cup runneth over with fraud, gaslighting, condemnation, ridicule, arrogance, manipulation, mind control, and mental illness. This is one-stop-shopping for witnessing David C. Pack’s true colors.

 

After addressing the 10-20% of brethren who no longer listen to him or take notes when he speaks, one shining moment was when the gruff shell of David C. Pack softened. He offered a heartfelt apology on three different elements and used his own contrition as a teaching moment for all in The Restored Church of God.

 

I sincerely hope the brethren heard his words and understood what he said. You can learn a lot about a person's character based on how they apologize. These statements go to the core of who and what David Crowl Pack is.

 

Pay attention to how it is introduced.

 

Part 430 – March 18, 2023

@ 1:06:42 Now, when you’re wrong, admit it. Maybe I’ll set an example. It’s my turn. Two times. Already apologized. Maybe it should say three times. I shoulda given more of these [timeline graphs], but I was kinda coached into it's hard for us to show these. It's hard to post them, and so I didn't. I apologize. But maybe God wanted a real easy one at the very end, so maybe the advice I got was good.

 

He sets this up as if a vulnerable heart-to-heart apology was coming, and this would be an example for the brethren to follow. Dave has appeared to apologize before but often un-apologizes because he was actually “right” and then goes back to doing what he said he would “never do” again.

 

David C. Pack often says, “I’m sorry,” like an addict not ready to get sober. Most of the time, he could say, “I’m sorry you feel that way.” But even that would carry more credibility weight.

 

 

Dave references a third point to apologize for what he has already covered. If you heard the message and missed it, there is a good reason why. We need to return to the beginning of Part 430.

 

@ 00:44 I wanna make a couple corrections. But, we will depart this. But I apologize (in a way). Some have said, “Boy, the tools are helpful.” I know out there in Videoland, you cannot see this, but it's a very simple. It’s a very, very simple graph or graphic of exactly how the kingdoms work. It couldn’t be simpler. It’s just that simple.

 

Apology #1: No Graphs Sooner

 

He apologized (in a way) for not providing more helpful tools like the completely accurate graph that was finally distributed in Part 430. At Headquarters, those sheets of paper filled more trashcans than briefcases on the way out the door.

 

Looking at the only part of the graph anyone should care about, this basic framework questions why any in The Restored Church God would be so confused they tune Dave out and stop taking notes.

 

To get the full RCG Effect, look at this graph while you listen to Dave in Part 429 explain what happens between those first two blank lines.

Part 429 – March 15, 2023

@ 26:03 But, one thought was: the 3 ½ days closes the period up to and precedes the First Kingdom. Or those 3 ½ days would be exactly 10% of the Second Kingdom in front of the First Kingdom before the Second. Before the Kingdom of God. Were they 3 ½ days that opened everything? Or 3 ½ days that close the period to the Kingdom of God? Were they the last 3 ½ days of the 35 days? 35 days and God goes 3.5 of them, and there's some kind of special hell on the saints.

 

That is only a portion of that blank space on the simple graphic. Add these next details in tiny letters when you try to fit them inside the space provided.

 

Part 429 – March 15, 2023

@ 51:42 1335. You gotta wait exactly 20 days till the Father arrives [March 17]. It’s what first thing it means. Then, you wait exactly 5 days till Abib [March 22]. And you wait exactly 20 days to the to the Great Tribulation. Exactly 10 more to the till to the from the 1290 to what would now be 1280. Another round number, which goes on out into the the Beast’s reign…Let’s do this simply. Make a column. Put Number 1: 20. 20. Right beside it. From the 1335 till the Father arrives—20. Number 2: Put 5—The Short Word to Abib. 20 again. Line 3 would be 20 again. 20 to the Great Tribulation. Line 4 would be 10 to the Day of the Lord…

 

He goes on and on in the video, but the transcript stops here. You get the point.

 

Stare at the gaslighting graphic again and ask yourself if what he says fairly represents this portion of the timeline. Brethren are not confused at God’s word and truth. They are confused with understanding Dave.

 

That exercise gives you a glimpse of what it is like to be a member of The Restored Church of God. And you did not have to turn over your children’s inheritance to do it.

 

Remember, this was part of his apology. Excuse me. His apology (in a way). Because graphs like this would have been so helpful along the way to Abib 1.

 

 

Part 430 – March 18, 2023

@ 1:07:05 So, I'm gonna apologize for a of couple things. And maybe that will help some of you face things. I'm gonna do it publicly. You just do it privately to God. I'm gonna make a couple apologies, and you will love them both. All right? So, when wrong, admit it.

 

On the surface, that sounds wonderful. Even I was hopeful as to what Dave was going to say.

 

@ 1:07:20 I really dug into the subject of eternal life.

 

Oh, no. Dave is not really going to do this…is he?

 

Oh, yes, he is.

 

Apology #2: Eternal Life Timing

 

Undoubtedly, the brethren could relate to this because, come on, we've all been there. Right?

 

David C. Pack spends 13 minutes going through the Bible explaining the proofs of the updated version using Elijah as an example for everyone else. He repeats this can apply to them to defuse concerns about his fixation on the benefits of being a third-person Elijah.

 

@ 1:11:26 He’s given all that God has. Now, I mean, we you’re in there, too. You understand that. If you illustrate him…[insert parenthetical distraction]

 

David C. Pack uniquely approaches contrition through the pathway of self-aggrandizement.

 

Elijah is shown in glory in the First Kingdom [March 22, 2023]

All the nations of the world run to Elijah

Elijah is the firstborn

People seek Elijah as “David, their King”

The sins of Elijah are passed away

Elijah is given a golden reed

Elijah judges the poor and needy of the earth

Elijah keeps the courts

Elijah changes the hearts of billions of families

Elijah has a sword and a bow

Elijah measures the Temple because he can fly

God calls Elijah to His foot

Elijah places one leg on the earth and one in the sea

Elijah is the “chosen” from Psalm 89

Elijah stands in front of Christ every day

The sons of Eli crouch before Elijah

Elijah has a forever throne

 

Remember, this was introduced as part of a public apology so brethren could do so before God privately. This is all meant to help them as part of a sermon designed to "save their life."

 

Good luck finding anything that resembles an apology buried in there. But it must be because Dave makes that clear before moving on.

 

@ 1:19:35 So, I apologize. I got confused. By the way, Haggai, after all these years…

 

There was a false start on the apology part of the apology. Dave inserted 67 seconds of stuff before circling around. You can tell how focused he was on sincerely being sorry.

 

@ 1:20:50 So, I apologize. It was not a small error, but it’s over.

 

Yeah. It is not over by any stretch of a sane person’s imagination. But it was time for Dave to move on.

 

 

@ 1:21:12 All right. One final correction. We’ve already really made the correction, but we’re gonna close with it.

 

Pause.

 

The second point of his public apology turned into a disconnected correction. The whole "I'm sorry" theme screamed down the hallway and jumped out the window. Or it slipped his mind.

 

In case you forgot, this is how he set this up fifteen minutes ago:

 

@ 1:06:42 Now, when you’re wrong, admit it. Maybe I’ll set an example. It’s my turn.

 

@ 1:07:05 So, I’m gonna apologize for a of couple things. And maybe that will help some of you face things. I’m gonna do it publicly. You just do it privately to God.

 

Let Dave explain his “final correction.”

 

@ 1:21:18 And that’s the timeline again. So, it actually got simpler.

 

@ 1:22:28 So, instead of 20 days, then 5, then 20, then 10. Think of it this way. It's 25 days. You wait 25 days plus a few hours. And then 20 and 10. And I don't know where God withdraws.

 

Apology Correction #3: 20-5-20-10 is 25-20-10

 

The First Kingdom is no longer exactly 35 days, even though he was very specific about it before.

And he wonders why people are tuning out. How valuable are those notes from Part 429 now? They have the same value as the notes from Part 430. David C. Pack proves that those who tune him out and do not take notes are the wisest among the members of RCG.

 

Hopefully, that field minister continues to hold off on compiling notes for his prophecy-clarifying sermon. Dave will continue to pull the rug out from everyone in RCG. Those paying attention know when to jump so they do not trip.

 

 

David C. Pack is not a man of his word. He speaks words that cannot be trusted. He cannot even get to the apology part of his third apology. He ended the message twenty minutes later, and the concept of apology never entered his mind again. Because it was never in his heart.

 

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Part 430 is spoken from the mouth of David C. Pack, exposing the heart of David C. Pack. The man is losing control of himself. He is no longer capable of hiding his true nature from the brethren. 

 

We are witnessing the unfettered reality of who this man is.

 

His initial heart-to-heart introduction implied vulnerability so he could be a sacrificial example for the sake of the brethren. The remaining half-hour proved it was manipulation and control. Dave orchestrated a calculated deception designed to elicit sympathy and defuse criticism.

 

Everyone on the third floor at Headquarters knows that is true. They have personally witnessed that type of behavior for years. Now, all of RCG gets to witness it together.

 

Dave has grown beyond Brad’s ability to manage him. Dave is going to say what Dave is going to say. A hands-off approach is the best way to address David C. Pack as he destroys himself. His own words are the most powerful torpedoes to ever hit The Restored Church of God.

 

Those three non-apologies speak to who David C. Pack is. Not as a prophet. Not as an apostle. Not even as a minister. They speak to who he is as a man. They speak to the quality of his character as a person.

 

Who is David C. Pack?

 

Three heartfelt apologies explain. Loud and clear.

 

Marc Cebrian

See: Heartfelt Apologies

Why Self-appointed Crackpot Prophet Will Not Correct Issues In Africa

 

Forget Bwana Bob's double blessings and his round-robin ordination to Chief Overseer/preacher/prophet by his corrupt African evangelists. He admits, that he is divinely appointed by the creature he calls god. Seriously people, how could that person possibly be the ONE TRUE COG leader and be in UCG, PCG, LCG, COGWA, and RCG? 

God no more appointed Bob Thiel to be a Chief Overseer, a preacher, a prophet or a splinter group leader that Jesus will be returning to Wadsworth. It is an impossibility.

Bwana Bob is taking this route to legitimize himself in the eyes of his dwindling African followers as the true source at the top of the divinely appointed pyramid scheme. Thus, having this position invalidates all who complain about COG issues in Africa and elsewhere. The minute they complain they infringe on his authority and anything he says trumps any accusation they have, including well-founded ones like adultery and witchcraft. Bob believes that anything Sasha and Terry Nelson says is invalid now. That's why he has not reacted to the real problems in Africa and will do nothing to fix them. This is why he does not care that he has lost every single congregation in certain African nations. To him, they were not converted and not worth his time.

When the American Psychiatric Association prepares to release DSM-6 they could include an entire section on psychotic religious narcissism, using Church of COG leaders as test cases. It is amazing how over the last 30 years we have watched some COG leaders turn into deranged mentally ill men.

Does the Bible support democracy or top down government for the Church of God? Does God work, primarily, through one human leader at a time? Did the late Pastor General of the old Worldwide Church of God, Herbert W. Armstrong, repeatedly teach that God worked primarily through “ONE MAN AT A TIME, though with others (male and female) assisting that leader? Who is that one man now? Who should be eliminated as being that one man? Would we expect that one man would be part of UCG, PCG, LCG, COGWA, RCG, or CCOG? Could God have given one or more Divine signs to point out who that one man is? What type of government will be in the Kingdom of God? Are we to be preparing to be kings and priests now? Is it appropriate to want to push for a non-top down from God’s government if there is some type of corruption in the organization he leads? What about 1 Samuel 8:1-20 and 1 Samuel 12:1-5? Did Jesus have any financially corrupt with Him? What are allegations that have been raised against Radson Mulozowa, Bradox Ochieng, and Evans Ochieng? Is there any truth to any of them? If so, which? Could there have been some type of deepfake related to an alleged Facebook Messenger chat related to claims of adultery? Does Laodicea mean ‘people decide’ or ‘judgment of the people’? Should Christians be ‘independents’? What about being ‘congregationalists’? Have various accusers changed their stories or broke promises? What should those who consider themselves to be faithful Philadelphians do? Dr. Thiel deals with these and other matters.