Friday, May 19, 2023

Crackpot Lying Bitter Prophet Still Crying About Living Church Of God Rejecting Him

 



One would think that after 12 years of running his own little lackluster personality cult, Bwana Bob Thiel would be over his bitterness towards the Living Church of God. Yet, here we are in May of 2023 and Bitter Bob is back again bemoaning the fact that LCG leadership and church members refuse to acknowledge him as a real prophet.

After reading on this blog the latest update from LCG  about recent ordinations to "evangelist" rank of several men, Bitter Bob had to post a comment on his blog about it, crying about how they refuse to accept prophets in this day and age.

05/18/23 a.m. LCG reported the following:

This has been an exciting and enlightening week for those of us on the Council of Elders. Nineteen of the 20 members were able to meet in person, and Mr. Robert Tyler participated online from Australia, despite the significant time difference. ... Our experiences down through the years have been different and our gifts from God are different, just as Paul explained in 1 Corinthians 12. A highlight of the meetings was the ordination to evangelist of Messrs. Peter Nathan, Jonathan McNair, Rod McNair, and Wallace Smith. Another highlight was presenting to Peter and Karen Nathan a crystal eagle in recognition of their fifty years of service in the ministry. We pray all will return home safely and energized to pass along news of the Work.—Gerald Weston

Council of Elders: Mr. Gerald Weston, Mr. Richard Ames, Mr. Steven Elliott, Dr. Jeffrey Fall, Mr. Lambert Greer, Mr. Daniel Hall, Mr. Mario Hernandez, Mr. Jonathan McNair, Mr. Rod McNair, Mr. Rand Millich, Mr. Peter Nathan, Mr. Paul Shumway, Mr. Wallace Smith, Mr. Rick Stafford, Mr. John Strain, Mr. Rob Tyler, Mr. Stuart Wachowicz, Mr. Dexter Wakefield, Mr. Adam West, Dr. Douglas Winnail

So, several in LCG have been elevated. 

"So",,, well, we can quickly see the bitterness starting to rise up in vain Bob. They were raised up but I never was! Boo hoo!

Gerald Weston pointed to 1 Corinthians 12 which teaches:

7. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the benefit of all. 8. For to one, a word of wisdom is given by the Spirit; and to another, a word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; 9. And to a different one, faith by the same Spirit; and to another, gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10. And to another, the working of miracles; and to another, prophecy; and to another, discerning of spirits; and to a different one, various languages; and to another, the interpretation of languages. 11. But the one and the same Spirit is operating in all these things, dividing separately to each one as God Himself desires. (1 Corinthians 12:7-11, A Faithful Version)

LCG does not accept that God has given the gift of prophecy as it does not accept prophets-despite its founder who said that God might consider Bob Thiel to be a prophet. As far as gifts prophesied to exist now, check out the article: Does the CCOG have the confirmed signs of Acts 2:17-18?

Rod Meredith was correct in not acknowledging Bob as a prophet. Meredith recognized Bob's narcissism as not good for the church and the fact that Bob is a liar when it comes to prophecy and Bible knowledge. Bob still is bitter about the fact that THREE different Churches of God REFUSED to ordain him--the Worldwide Church of God, the Global Church of God, and the Living Church of God. 

As for his prophet status, it is a moot point. Real Biblical prophets make a statement about an event that WILL happen, then does happen. Bitter Bob's only avenue as a prophet is to qualify each statement with a "what if", "maybe", "could it be" or after every utterance use this "?". The only thing real about Bob is the fact he is a fraud. Living Church of God recognized that.


Crackpot Prophet: Because I am dumping hundreds of poor translations of my books on the web I am now fulfilling prophecy!!!!!

 


In a letter yesterday to his 100 Caucasians and a few in Africa who might really care, the Great Bwana announced that he is dumping another load of books on the web that have been translated by language bots into foreign languages, and by doing so is preaching the greatest gospel message in human history! Due to that fact, Bwana Bob wants you to join his gravy train and send him your money because no other church on the face of the entire earth deserves it more than he does! Open those wallets up boys and girls! He doesn't want to hear metal clinking in the offering tray!

For some idiotic reason, the more translations of his booklets he gets translated by language bots is getting the gospel across to the world. How can that be when what he presents is a false gospel and is lucky to have one or two people in an entire country read it?


Dear Brethren and Co-Workers in Christ:

Greetings from the Five Cities region of California. 
 
We have been working on many aspects of the final phase of the work. 
 
We hope and pray that you believe God wants you to support the final phase of the work. 
 
Continuing to Make the Gospel of the Kingdom Booklet Accessible in More Languages

The final phase of the work includes reaching all we can with the good news of the kingdom of God to the world as a witness–which will also bear fruit. 
 
Jesus said:

14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14) 
 
29 They will come from the east and the west, from the north and the south, and sit down in the kingdom of God. (Luke 13:29) 
 
Those scriptures support the view that multiple languages being used to reach people before Jesus returns–and that is also specifically pointed to in Revelation 7:9,14. 
 
While we had the English version of The Gospel of the Kingdom of God booklet translated into hundreds of languages, we still want to reach more people in as many languages as we can.
Last evening, we received formatted files for 25 more languages–this is in addition to the 27 translations we reported about last week. We plan to upload them and make them available shortly. 
 
We also expect that we will receive many more translations as that is also something we are working on. 
 
Having materials in as many languages as we can helps set the stage for the fulfillment of the prophecies of Luke 13:29 and Matthew 24:14 as well as others such as Revelation 7:9,14 and Romans 11:25. 
 
Never before in history has a booklet on the good news of the coming kingdom of God been translated into as many languages as we have done in the CCOG. 
 
And, as also mentioned last week, more are expected!

Thursday, May 18, 2023

RCG/Alex Groen: After upstart church failed to attract new members, Revived Church of God rebrands Its self

 

In May of 2022, we reported here about another one of Dave Pack's ex-ministers who had started his own church to proclaim the gospel Dave Pack was no longer preaching, His name was Alex Groen' and he started up The Revived Church of God. Groen was a former employee and minister in the Restored Church of God. He is also one of well over 140 RCG ministers/employees who have left the RCG over the past several years.


Groen, much like Bob Thiel apparently imagined COG members would flock to his new upstart and help propel a final push for the COG that was filled with restored truths. Well, here we are one year later and Groen's upstart turned into an abysmal failure, so much so that's has rebranded himself as The Church of God Unity Project. He now envisions his "work" as unifying all churches of God into one big unified family which is ultimately working towards the same goal.

Introduction
The Church of God Unity Project (COGUP) is a registered 508(c)(1)(a) not-for-profit faith-based organization with a steadfast commitment to fostering unity within the Church of God, the "called out ones." Our primary focus is to bridge the gap between various Church of God corporate organizations by collaborating and working together towards common goals. By embracing the shared values and beliefs that bind us as one body, we strive to create a more harmonious and collaborative environment for all Church of God members worldwide.

Our History
The Church of God Unity Project emerged from a desire to think beyond the boundaries of traditional Church of God organizations. Our story began in 2022 with The Revived Church of God, founded by a minister who, after being part of an organization for 12 years, was navigating the complex landscape of the Church of God community. Despite the initial effort to establish a new organization, a growing sense of purpose revealed the need for a more impactful and innovative approach. 
 
Creating another Church of God organization often carries a stigma within the greater Church and tends to limit the reach of each corporate group to its immediate members. This realization highlighted the pressing need for a different solution – one that could bridge the divides that had emerged among the numerous organizations following the dissolution of the Worldwide Church of God under Herbert W. Armstrong.
 
 
Understanding the vital importance of unity and collaboration, we transformed our vision and founded The Church of God Unity Project (COGUP). Our mission is clear: to unite Church of God groups by collaborating on shared projects that promote common goals. As COGUP, we are dedicated to breaking down barriers and fostering an environment where unity, cooperation, and collective growth can thrive through joint efforts and initiatives.

Groen either was not aware of another "unity" group that has been running successfully for many years now or he is deliberately trying to undermine it.

That group is called Common Faith Network.


What is Common Faith Network?
Common Faith Network represents a collaborative effort between churches, congregations, ministries, and individuals to engage, equip and empower fellow Christians and congregations to fulfill the purposes for which God our Father and Jesus Christ, His Son, have called them.
CFN is not an incorporated organization but rather reflects working relationships between Christians accomplishing things together for the good of others. 
 
How did CFN start?
Several years ago, various individuals within the Churches of God Movement began to sense a void in the Christian World. Tiring of the frequent divisions and bickering within the church communities, they decided to start cooperating with one another as autonomous independent entities. 
 
Out of that sense of longing for unity and cooperation, the Common Faith Network movement was born. CFN organized and kept their first joint Feast of Tabernacles observance in the Fall of 2011. 
 
What is a CFN affiliate?
As mentioned above, CFN is an effort of individuals, ministries, congregations, and churches to work together. An affiliate can be either a person or a group from any one of those categories.
Our affiliates believe in the vision and purpose for which CFN operates and exists, and are willing to help in the work to be done. 

CFN has been holding many activities for COG members, regardless of church affiliation,  including open Feast of Tabernacles sites in various locations. 

Groen's new group will fall upon deaf ears of COG members who are tired of every other day hearing about a new COG splinter group claiming to be the best. After witnessing the absolutely appalling behavior of Bob Thiel and his group, members are shying away from this kind of upstarts big time. More will join up with CFN than Groien and Bob Thiel will ever attract.

Hat tip to a reader for this...


See:

EXCLUSIVE Another RCG Headquarters' Minister Leaves, Blasting Dave Pack's Prophetic Confusion in a Letter to RCG Ministry


Behold Alex J. Groen - The man of God. (Dave Pack 2.0)




Other splinter groups of Dave Pack: