LCG Members Letting Contentions Divide Them

  

The weekly smackdown has been a little late each week because the boys in Charlotte caught on that someone was passing it on to me each week BEFORE it was read in church.

Nevertheless, here is Doug's latest smackdown of LCG members who just can never seem to do anything right.

Unlike the church members in Paul's time who worked TOGETHER due to their love for each other, today's church members are a contentious lot who are not of the same mind and therefore constantly being divided for one reason or another. Not that any minister would EVER do such a thing, just the lowly sheeple who are at fault.

Kind of like when Rod Meredith and his buddies plotted in the background to start the Global Church of God while the Worldwide Church of God was defending him for libeling Leona McNair. While WCG was doing this his cohorts were working in the background to steal member lists from the mother church. Then, not content with their own new splinter group divisions soon split the church as Meredith and others stirred the pot again by creating division and contention in the Global Church of God.  Just like before, the same miscreants were plotting to form a new splinter group that Meredith could just waltz right over to never having to worry for a minute whether he was still getting paid.

Before the boys in Charlotte start blaming members for not working together, causing contentions, and being divisive, they need to get their own house in order.

The Importance of Working Together: Jesus called His disciples “friends” and encouraged them to “love one another” (John 15:12–17). The Apostle Paul referred to those who assisted him in his ministry as "my fellow workers" (Romans 16:3; Colossians 4:11), and Church members as "workers together" with God (2 Corinthians 6:1). These unique opportunities come with important responsibilities, and the Scriptures provide practical guidelines for working together. We are to be of the same mind and not let contentions divide us (1 Corinthians 1:10–13). We are advised to avoid being haughty, conceited, or ambitious for a position or recognition, but to work together peacefully and in harmony (Romans 12:16–18). We are reminded that repeating rumors disrupts friendships (Proverbs 17:9) and that a converted person is “easily entreated” (James 3:17, KJV). As we learn to “love one another” and treat each other as friends, we will be more effective “fellow workers” for the Kingdom of God.

Have a profitable Sabbath,

Douglas S. Winnail

Dave Pack: David Admits to Chest Pains - What if?

 

RCG “What If?”

 

While reviewing "The Greatest Unending Story! (Part 409)," delivered yesterday, December 10, 2022, something David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God said sparked an interesting line of thinking that captured my attention.

 

@ 04:08 I’ve gotta be faithful with this. He that handles the word of God cannot do it deceitfully. I know there are people in the church and people who’ve been with us who would do it much better than I would…They don’t face the pressures…The pressure is staggering. I have chest pains you wouldn’t even believe…it’s not a good thing because of the pressure to get it right. I fear God…the pressure is staggering. And over 15,000 hours of study didn’t readily reveal the problem.

 

The fuller comments are less than one minute.

There will be a more complete analysis when the article covering Part 409 is published.

 

These statements pulled me into a line of thought I would not have shared two months ago. In interviews and privately, folks ask me what I think will happen to David C. Pack and The Restored Church of God. Since I am an unordained non-prophet/non-psychic, I still say I do not know.

 

However, I have my theories. 

 

For David C. Pack to admit he has chest pains is a big deal. He historically hides that type of thing. The pressure he feels to get things right flies in the face of the idea that God is guiding him into truth. God’s Spirit is moving him to unveil the Mystery of God. The Greatest Untold Story! Series is a prophecy being fulfilled.

 

With his admitted chest pains, his mental reality is crashing, and his body is telling him so. The physical world is colliding with his imaginary world.

 

The following is a work of "reasonable" fiction based on my understanding of the players inside RCG. I know these men. I worked with them for over eight years. All of this could happen. Whether it does or not is in God's hands.

 

 

David C. Pack is killing himself. The best thing for him and all the members of The Restored Church of God is to declare that he is not fit to lead. He should resign as Pastor General immediately. He should admit he has been wrong and was seduced by the excitement of figuring out Bible prophecy. After he set his first date and failed, he knew there was no turning back. The train can never stop.

 

Surrounded by weak enablers, he was encouraged to continue. Nobody shouted, "The Emperor is naked!" from the crowd or the third floor.

 

By far, 2022 has been the worst, with the continual date-setting and failures followed by even more date-setting and failures. Excuses, excuses. Blame and boo hoo. It is all figured out, but then there is something “we” missed. David C. Pack has become the very thing he warned RCG about. But, he has also become what the Bible has warned about.

 

He needs to stop and admit he fell into an addiction. And like all addicts, he must focus on sobriety to begin the recovery process. Until then, he cannot be trusted. He needs to put his Bible down, spend quality time with his wife, and get professional help so he can heal.

 

 

For the sake of his own health, David C. Pack steps down as President and CEO of The Restored Church of God. He resigns as Pastor General. He stops preaching.

 

The structure of God’s government dictates that the only living evangelist steps in to lead, which no brethren disagree with. Bradford G. Schleifer is rewarded for his years of suffering under an insufferable man. He leads a “Great Reset” on doctrine. He restores 95% of Herbert W. Armstrong’s understanding. He instructs the ministers to focus on Christian growth sermons and diminish the need to “figure out” prophecy. “God will do it in His own time,” will be a comforting principle.

 

There is a Great Reset Damage Control Campaign to reassure the brethren that RCG is still God's church and that this nine-year trial by fire has ended. Since Jesus Christ is the head of the church and not a man, losing David C. Pack as Pastor General is a small matter not to be concerned about. After all, Joshua took over when Moses died. Solomon became king after David. This is the Bible pattern.

 

RCG endures a MASSIVE wave of resignations across the globe. About half the church evaporates within the next few weeks. The hirelings at Headquarters and in the field smell the blood in the water and scatter like cockroaches when the light comes on. Some staff members see this as their chance to bolt. And bolt, they do.

 

Splinter groups COGwa, UCG, and LCG have a sudden influx of new members seeking refuge from a burning house. The RCG Exodus is talked about throughout the entire COG community.

 

The Restored Church of God putters along. For a while.

 

Mrs. Pack files for divorce before the U-Haul arrives. Dave’s children still do not accept his calls even though they know what is happening.

 

Coffee Kid and Pepper Boy are demoted for their contribution to the attempted destruction of RCG. They can keep their ordinations but are sent out into the field to learn how to shepherd. Some real pastoring experience will do them good, it is thought. But, both resign after a few weeks, deciding it is better to focus on real life and their families rather than continue to support a broken system that God is not supporting.

 

Brad addresses the “rising star” inside RCG, that has had his eyes on the throne. Edward L. Winkfield is sent into the field, probably to Australia or another country. This removes him from Headquarters so that he is no longer a threat to the new head honcho.

 

The three horses are sold at a discount or shipped off to make glue. All the properties along Hartman Road are put up for sale. The Campus land extending from Eagle Point to Hartman is on sale for development or farming.

 

The previous owners are offered to get their land back for pennies on the dollar. They accept and allow the grass to grow wild again in the sight of Dave's house.

 

Once those financial resources are depleted, the homes along Akron Road are sold. One at a time, just in case attendance and Common turns things around. But, the hull has been pierced, and the Titanic will flounder.

 

Without warning, Brad resigns from RCG and flees to settle someplace nice with the self-insulating nest egg he legally created with his corporate position. “How did his golden parachute get so big so fast?” will be a question former RCG members will wonder about for years.

 

I told you he was a savvy guy.

 

By this point, Dave grows a beard and wears a robe all day. He has secretly begun to study Bible prophecy again. God reveals some amazing things he wishes he had known years ago. Now, it all makes sense. It fits perfectly. The picture is finally complete. He preaches to the mirror but manages to keep it under 90 minutes each time. Part 502 is a barnburner of a message. Very inspiring.

 

He watches the Campus and church he built collapse from his window. It grieves him. As does the eviction notice on the chair that doubles as a dining table.

 

If only he had not eaten the forbidden fruit of setting dates for the return of Jesus Christ.

 

If only he had not self-ordained himself an apostle.

 

If only he had not come to see he was Joshua, the High Priest of Zechariah 3.

 

If only he had not believed he was Elijah the Prophet.

 

If only he had not taken on a name of Christ for himself, claiming he is actually That Prophet.

 

If only he had seen what was so plainly presented before his own eyes.

 

 

The reality is David C. Pack will not admit fault. He will not see his errors, and he will not quit. He will continue to set dates and watch them fail. The enabling hirelings will continue to agree. The brethren will continue to wait to be disappointed.

 

Those pressure-induced chest pains are not a sign of God's Spirit comforting him because he is right on track and fulfilling God's good pleasure. It should be a stark warning of where he is and where he is heading.

 

The end of him and RCG will be far worse than the scenario presented.

 

May God have mercy on David C. Pack.

Marc Cebrian

See: What If?

"Armstrongism is inoculated with just enough Christianity that it builds their immunity up to resist real Christianity when they get exposed to it. "

 

One of the longest-running posts here about the absurdities of Jon Brisby, the "leader" of the Church of God, The Eternal, now has 2018 comments. Sometimes it is filled with wild and outlandish comments in the midst of some truly troubling ones. Brisby is just like all other men leading COGs today who feel their self-importance makes them the most valuable leader the church has ever had. 

Today, a comment was made that describes perfectly the entire problem with Armstrongism and why it has been such a failure.

Herbert's Doctor said...

Armstrongism is inoculated with just enough Christianity that it builds their immunity up to resist real Christianity when they get exposed to it. 

Friday, December 9, 2022 at 9:29:00 PM PST  Church of God, The Eternal's Jon Brisby Sinks To A New Vile Low

When those entrenched in Armstrongism are exposed to basic Christian beliefs that are universally understood, many react with anger and with great gnashing of teeth. The basic beliefs of grace, justification, and sanctification are like dropping an atomic bomb in the midst of some COG groups. Their minds explode with a lot of "buts". In the Church of God, "buts" are always the most powerful decider of doctrine in the church. 

Condemnation is the word of the day in most COG's and they thrive upon it in their sermons, magazines, and broadcasts. Most of that condemnation is geared toward the world, but much of the time members are also weighed down by condemnation. 

    

 

Dave Pack = Mr. Kranky Kislev After 2 More Disappointments This Week

 

Mr. Kranky Kislev

 

Will you remember where you were and what you did on December 9, 2022, at 9:35 AM EST?

 

I will look back on this day and reflect on how simple life was when I was making my morning coffee. I had just poured the half-and-half into my mug and was about to put the carton back into the fridge when, in a perfect coincidence, I looked at the kitchen clock.

 

Surprisingly, my stove screamed at me—9:35 in the morning! No, it did not give me an utterance like John the Baptist had, but it felt like it did. Today is a big, big deal for the brethren of The Restored Church of God. Another prophetic rollercoaster comes to a stop. Or maybe, just a pause.

 

9:35 AM EST equals 4:35 PM Jerusalem sunset, which begins Kislev 16 on the Hebrew calendar.

 

This is when the 1335 of Daniel 12:12 begins. Or, shoulda.

 

This is when the faith of those in The Restored Church of God are rewarded. Or, woulda.

 

This is when God makes the world know that David C. Pack is not a biblical hack and prophetic kook. Or coulda.

 

The start of Kislev 16 is the exact beginning of a 15-day count to Christmas Eve when Jesus Christ returns to earth, bringing salvation to all the good little boys and girls inside RCG. That is December 24, 2022, at 9:35 AM EST if you want to mark your calendar.

 

Since nothing happened at 9:35 AM EST this morning, David C. Pack is stuck with titles like Biblical Hack and Prophetic Kook. For the time being.

 

The brethren of RCG have to remain in a disappointed state. For the time being.

 

The hirelings at Headquarters have to bone up on their Damage Control skills. For the time being.

 

The no-show today was preceded by Elijah not being raised this week to speak to the world, starting in Jerusalem. That was supposed to occur between Sunday morning and Wednesday morning. As it stands now, David C. Pack is not Elijah the Prophet and is not Joshua, the High Priest.

 

Do not be surprised if Mr. Kranky Kislev is more pissy and whiny than he typically is.

 

 

On Wednesday night, as a non-prophetic fog settled on the Headquarters Campus, the blue glow of the projector screen in the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium was in full blaze. The Packian Triad of Fraud was frantically searching for a way to explain why nothing they see clearly in the scriptures ever comes to pass despite it being too easy to misunderstand.

 

Instead of realizing this:

 

“God is not with us. God is not guiding us. God is not revealing secret knowledge locked away since before the world began. God is not blessing The Restored Church of God. God is not driving ‘The Greatest Unending Story!’ Series. Mr. Pack does not know as much as he thinks he does. Mr. Pack will never get prophetic timing right. Mr. Pack is a false prophet. Mr. Pack is a false teacher and a false apostle destined to repeat a cycle of failure. Mr. Pack lies to the brethren. Mr. Pack lies to himself. The hirelings at Headquarters support a religious fraud. The hirelings at Headquarters are betraying the trust of the brethren. The brethren are willing captives paralyzed by fear as love waxes cold.”

 

They posted this in Member Services yesterday:

 

Prophecy Update – Thursday, December 8, 2022

 

At this point, it has become clear for various reasons that we just wait to the 1,335. We should not expect anything to happen before this! We are on the clock once we “touch the day” but still do not know the hour. I personally intend to watch all the way to the end of this day.

 

David C. Pack

 

 

This is a hybrid Pathetic Update combining two failures into one posting.

 

The first sentence acknowledges the failure of Elijah to be raised between Sunday and Wednesday, making an appearance on Good Morning America unnecessary. Dr. Ranney will have to leave his finely-crafted press release in the Draft folder.

 

“At this point, it has become clear for various reasons…”

 

The various reasons are open to interpretation but start with physical reality being acknowledged. It is clear due to the passage of time. Again, this is a hybrid Pathetic Update. They waited for one theory to fail before commenting but still managed to get ahead of the next one.

 

“I personally intend to watch…”

 

The last sentence declares how righteous Dave is despite what he taught about timing for the beginning of Kislev 16. By Thursday night, he was aware “nothin’ was gonna happen” Friday morning.

 

What does “watch” even mean? Is Dave parked in a chair at the window in the Third Floor North Tower to quietly stare all day? Does he have Fox News on every TV with enablers assigned to watch it?

 

How do you “watch” while you are working? I never understood what that meant except to have a “Christ could return today” thought in the back of my mind while enduring meetings and answering emails.

 

“…all the way to the end of the day.”

 

Dave was very specific about it happening at the exact second of sunset at the biblical beginning of a full day. He was very specific about this being based on Jerusalem time. But there appears to be wiggle room.

 

 

Based on history, this is how Dave and Company will play it out:

 

This watch will bleed into the Sabbath. Anticipate another update suggesting the timing could still happen at any point during Kislev 16.

 

When that fails to manifest, then all 15 days before Christmas will be a time to continue watching because it has to be this year and the Kingdom of God / Day of the Lord has to begin on Tevet 1, which falls on a Christmas that falls on the first day of the week. (Recall the greasy, slimy 76-year lie told by a mathematical moron.)

 

“Do not be discouraged, brethren. All is well, and the prophetic picture is correct and complete. We have the right month! Everything is right on track, but there are too many proofs to explain now. All the ministers are amazed at what we missed.

 

Next week, Part 409 will explain to close out the series. Christ could not possibly come until the church understood this. Keep watching!”

 

 

It is scary crazy how I can channel the RCG nonsense.

 

Much like when Dave was Weeping for Tammuz when that did not pan out, expect another 15 days of Mr. Kranky Kislev to spin this little piggy all the way home to the ungrateful, sullen faces of The Restored Church of God.

 

The real question is how long until he gives Christmas back over to Krampus and moves on to the next fixation. My guess is that Janus will be back in play. And not The One Who Is Chandler’s Girlfriend.

Marc Cebrian

See: Mr. Kranky Kislev