One of the vilest teachings of the church that was brutally enforced over the decades was the "divorce and remarriage" doctrine/teaching. Countless stories have been told over the decades of loving couples and families ripped to pieces by the Church of God's vile stance. Most had probably thought those days were long gone, but it is not.
This letter was posted on Exit and Support and describes the vile and unChristian teachings of Jon Brisby:
I wanted to write and thank you for helping people who have left or will leave the "Armstrong cult groups." I was born into the WWCG. It helped to destroy my whole family--my parents, my siblings, and up until this year, even me. We all made some mistakes and bad choices on our own but Herbert Armstrong and his ministers, splinters, and even some members, helped destroy my family emotionally, just with the judgmental attitudes, being made to feel we were in "hot water" with God, telling us that outsiders were of the world, etc. My most recent minister Jon W. Brisby (Church of God, the Eternal) has even told me that my lack of financial comfort is the result of my "not living in a pleasing enough way for God." I was also told that my family is the "church" now and no longer my kids, since they are not members. Luckily, my kids grew up against the Armstrong teachings and have their own beliefs. As for me, I am finally what I consider to be "out of the dark" of these Armstrong worshippers. I emailed my minister two weeks ago and explained my decision to leave. He has yet to respond.
Church of God, The Eternal (COGE) is a small group. The lead minister is Jon W. Brisby (age 55). He has some wild ideas. A married couple came to the group from LCG a few years ago. They had been married for about 18 years. Brisby soon found out that the man had been married briefly to someone else when he was a really young man. They divorced and his ex married someone else. Anyway, this married couple of 18 plus years were instructed to split up and live separately but not get divorced. Jon Brisby told him that if his ex wife happens to die then and only then can he and his current wife live as a couple again. The couple have remodeled their home and made it into a duplex. They each live in one of the side by side units. They are allowed to go back and forth to each other's apartment for meal times but not allowed to sleep, shower or linger at each other's place. At the Feast of Tabernacles and Pentecost they were not permitted to sit together for services. This couple is in their 50's also.
There is another man, a single man around age 60. This man was also married but years ago his wife left him and married a Seventh Day Adventist. Brisby told him he must never remarry. This man said God would not allow him to marry unless his ex died. Brisby stays in total control of the dating and marriage relationships in the group. He comes off as very intensely and genuinely kind, but if he feels you cross him, then he gets an attitude and can be very arrogant.
--Kandice Cunning (Child survivor of WCG; Former member of COGE)Church of God, the Eternal has on its page the following which is used as a weapon to stop members from writing such things as was done above. They seek to create the myth that all of the things they teach are directly from Christ, passed down through the apostles to Bisby and others today. To deny what they teach is blasphemy and denial of the truth which separates the "rebellious" from God.
What God gave to Moses, He gave to Christ. What Christ taught to the apostles, He commissioned them to proclaim in their designated areas. What Christ and the apostles taught was the same as was revealed to Paul. And what all those servants taught is exactly what was given to an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). For those who will hear, our purpose is to honor and proclaim that same way of life—the faith once delivered. In that way is found no part of the way given to Gentiles—people of the world (Deuteronomy 12:1–3; 4:1–40, Acts 14:16). We want the ways of God. We are not interested in any of the traditions or customs of this world. God’s servant of these last days at no time made the pagan customs of this world a part of the doctrine. The spirit which introduces change, and/or a relaxation of the doctrine is as much at work today as it was in the past. The called of God must be on guard incessantly. That spirit is a deceiver. He will do anything to destroy.
One concluding observation seems to be necessary. Those who believed and loved the Truth of God have remained strong, loyal, and faithful. On the other hand, it seems that everyone who was “argued” into acceptance of the “faith once delivered” has failed ultimately. It, indeed, seems like God is separating those who believe and love the Truth from those who must surely have accepted only on the basis of their own personal intellectual prowess.
Satan and his demons hate the ways of God. They will do anything to disrupt, challenge, and destroy. Such behavior is a manifestation of who and what the true people of God are all about. They persecuted Christ. In like manner they will do the same thing to those in whom Christ lives. The faithful of God will count it a privilege to suffer for the cause of righteousness. They will be persecuted and lied about with abandon, but these chosen children of God will know who they are. They love the Truth and will for no cause allow themselves to turn from it. They are the ones who will endure to the end.
Who are we? We are estranged members—a remnant (Romans 9:27–33; 11:1–5, Isaiah 1:8–9, Revelation 12:13–17)—from the apostate body (2 Thessalonians 2:1–3) who sincerely love God’s revealed Truth from the heart (2 Thessalonians 2:10), willing to remain faithful to the end (Matthew 24:13). That Truth which was taught by Christ (John 14:6; 12:48–50), that Truth which Christ commissioned the Twelve Apostles to teach (Matthew 28:20). Which was the same message taught by the Apostle Paul (Galatians 1:6–16, 1 Thessalonians 2:12–14). Which was the same message taught by an end-time servant (Matthew 28:19–20). Which had significant beginning with Moses (Hebrews 4:1–3). The Truth which is now obeyed from a spiritual premise (2 Corinthians 3:1–11).
These are the people that God’s true ministry desires to serve. It is our purpose to give you our energy and our love. Letter from Raymond Cole
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«Oldest ‹Older 2001 – 2200 of 2731 Newer› Newest»In order for this blog post to have any enlightenment upon current members of COGTE, they would have to first read it, but most importantly, would have to come to believe what they are reading about JB in order to act. The fact of the matter is that most are asleep and roped in by fear that if they are not with Jon, then where? When you are so locked into a belief that you must be a member of a church that keeps a Monday Pentecost only, and never prove what the Bible really says; well, you will sit there out of both ignorance and fear. This is just classic behavior throughout history, nothing new. I get that some are catching on, but few. Listen, if you want to do your research to prove ALL things about Jon, start with his material just post Raymond's death. All letters and all audio. You will hear it if it is your time. Remember, how will you know a True Christian? By their fruits. That's your best yardstick to try a spirit. I can claim all day that I keep some version of a faith once delivered to the saints, but if the good fruits are not there over a judgeable period of time, then forget it.
@Anonymous You keep ignoring what people have gone through...
Tell us The Truth, what happened to you? How can we help you? I reviewed the comments since 2018, and I found nothing.
Under Gods Law, HE cannot marry her. He should Just be happy with his own wife and stop lusting after Jons sister. Under Gods laws an unconverted mate is covered by the converted mate. Did Jon forget to tell this man this? If HE is in the church, then HE must follow Gods laws about how HE treats his wife. Col 3:19 How many times have we been told not everyone is called. Through showing love to his wife, he could win her over.
So what made you think the man is lusting after Jon's sister. Did he tell you that or is it another byproduct of false accusations?
I was also victimized by one of the members in this Church, the person spread news I was sleeping with someone else in this Church, God did dealt abt that, I got my fair share of justice, bec something evil happened to that person.So yeah, be careful.
If only all these church members evaluated what website they're on.. maybe idk, do some research
I'd like to hear a COGE member give me a reason why Mr Armstrong making prophetic predictions in God's name that didn't happen, doesn't disqualify the entire thing? For reference, the top of this very page, link "prophecies by decade" bottom right of top. There's a sermon series Jon should try.. Try all things people. Then when you say to yourself "if it wasn't the truth than where is it?" I remind you that JESUS is the truth. THAT is a ROCK to build on.
Brisby is the truth. Jesus uses a Man. Jon have full power in Jesus to get out church into all the world. Our website in Russia and China will force those to hear Christ. We pray for more power to go into ALL the World.
Perhaps through YouTube we can tell the world white rice and beards are satanic and hinder our prayers.
The whole world is not Russia and China. Not only that the COGE has been around for over 40 years. And they have not a work at all. Jon does not even talk about doing a work. What sermons have you been listening to?
The person who said that Brisby is truth is just trying to rile people up. They know that is a foolish statement.
No work has been done, no teaching of any kind on self mastery or overcoming has been given. It's always the same. Are you agreeing with our doctrines, bla, bla, bla. Someone over there better get to feeding those sheep correctly, or they are going to be found receiving a greater condemnation. That, and those sheep are going to look for another home.
Jon has done a good job of pushing out all but the most loyal. He could pull down his pants and walk the aisle in diapers with a baby bonnet and binky to thunderous applause. He could say sell your house and fly to Petra and they would. Finally, the church is ready for the place of safety.
This blog is the devil's Work. We all need to Fast and pray. Jon need's our support love and care. The Church need's to bring into force all members should offer financial support or get out! DO THE WORK OF JESUS ! Give all that we have!
Well, butter my biscuits!
Let me get my checkbook and send Jonny Boy some money so have can buy gas for his fast car. He isn't using it to preach a gospel with, so he might as well buy gas.
What do you think first tithes is for and holy day offering. People are supporting this work BUT Jon is not preaching the gospel to the world and neither did Mr Cole do that. Jon was never taught by Mr. Cole that it was important.
COGE was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of worldwide. That's their work. Problem is just about everyone who gives a crap about pre- 1974 worldwide, is either dead, on the way, or confined to a halfway house/nutt house/asylum. No one is looking for the deeper truth about brown sugar and Thanksgiving. Nobody wants to hear divorce doctrines from a church that tells people to divorce to protect their tithes. Nobody wants to be in a personality cult where a guy hoots at you like an owl for not being more like him. Nobody wants to hear your prayers are meaningless because God does what he wants whether you pray or not..unless you pray curses, then God listens. Nobody wants to hear about how Christmas trees are nimrods dick from a bunch of alcoholics. Nobody wants to hear about pork being salvational from a church founded by a false prophet 100x over. Nobody wants to be told what they can't buy with second tithe, then told to hand in their extra tithe after the feast.. so the church can buy more property.. nobody wants to go to a "church" where deacons promptly kick out any strangers. Worldwide never did any work besides pulling lukewarm Christians from other churches. It was never a gospel mission. It was a dogma operation.
Anon Friday, December 9, 2022 at 4:47 dude you nailed it on the head. It is a strange sort of box they exist in. How do I know? Because I existed in the same box at one time. It incorporates parts of the Bible, but only the parts that make them feel exclusive with God where no others are considered or allowed in. The problem with this is that it is in no way Biblical at all. I know there are good people there, many I know personally, but if they are not open to what the word actually says; and resist dusting off the Bible because of being afraid of being cursed, ostracized, or even being lost from salvation because they have been lied to, then all we can do is pray for them. So this is what I choose to do. The day will come when the antics of the Brisbies, the Packs, etc... will back fire. This is a guarantee.
Armstrongism is inoculated with just enough Christianity that it builds their immunity up to resist real Christianity when they get exposed to it.
anon Dec 9 140pm.. agreed. "The prayers of the righteous availeth much.". Who are the righteous? Those covered by the righteous blood of Jesus. One of many things that woke me up was when a friends life was in shambles, and I was trying to lead him to God. I realized that the cog was not a place to learn the basic gospel and lead people to Christ. I asked another friend who was a Christian to invite the troubled friend to church and he asked why I didn't invite him to My church. And I had to hmm and haw that my church wasn't the kind of place that takes in people from the street... The Christian friend looked at me perplexed and said these powerful words "what kind of church doesn't eagerly lead people to Christ? And take in those who need Him?". That's when my suspicions slapped me in the face.. I was in a cult. With such a heretical doctrine that they hold their doctrine exclusive, and believe that everyone will learn their doctrines after they die in a NON SCRIPTURAL second chance in the millennium. That's NOT in the bible folks. That's a doctrine made up by a man. A man who made false prophecies from the very beginning of his "ministry.". I began to pray for people on the news who suffered. I began to stop and help people on the side of the road, and pray for them. I helped someone push their broke down car out of traffic while on the way to a church social. I asked myself, "who would have stopped and helped from the group I was going to hang out with?". None probably. They all drove by. They hate people. They think they're God's only concern. More and more charitable predicaments crossed my paths, including many uncanny strangers who I suspect may have been angels. My mind began to open and realize what being a Christ believer was truly about. And those feelings stood out in sharp contrast to the spirit at the COG. Church became a very dark and depressing place that bothered my spirit. Sermons were about white rice and and drawn out series about doctrine technicalities on trivial matters. I had to leave. I had to run. But I had to battle a spirit of fear. Fear of "losing my salvation" for leaving their building. Fear that Armstrong was God's pope man. Fear that I was "leaving the truth." Jon himself has said "if you don't believe it, don't just leave, run.". How right he was. I want to be accounted with the sheep, not the goats. You have to drop it all and start over. You have to judge based on who's feeding the poor, visiting the sick, the imprisoned.. not who's doing a made up holy day ceremony on the "right day". Jesus is the truth, and His commandments trump a mix mash of mixed covenant doctrines made up by a guy who had no business being on the radio/tv. Armstrong was wrong on so many levels. It's not hard to prove using the very bible that he told you to blow the dust off of. You didn't. You just believed what he said, because he spoke athoritatively. And every COG mimics him. Yes, the COGS consist of gullible people. Lost, gullible man followers who have no idea where they truly stand with God to the very day they die. Sad. Scary. God will only wake your mind up when you finally look around and think WTF. When you finally have the cojones to question something without fear. Ask, seek, knock
Ezekiel 34 in a nutshell.
I find it interesting that Jon says he is the only one that speaks the truth, and all the splinters are in the wrong.
A member has a wife who refuses to join or obey. She wears makeup and wont follow the dietary rules. She put out xmas ornaments. JB has advised him to divorce his unconverted wife. This member wants to divorce her and marry J's sister.
Jon is wrong about advising someone to get a divorce. He needs to keep his nose out of their business. where do you get this information.? Are you close to this family? You never answered before.
New truth at COGE. You CAN and SHOULD divorce to protect your money and church tithes. Also spouses who refuse to keep the truth, you were probably never boud to.. because you were unequally yoked. Yes we have new truth and Christ is in Jon. Throw out your brown sugar. Don't eat your rice at the Mexican restaurant. Order a margarita instead. Christ is here, leading this little flock. The only ones who are keeping the truth today. You'll see. We will be your God in your next life. Better do as we say. "Yes Lord," you will say. You'll see
Jon and every single minister in a COG need to keep their noses out of members' business. They have no right to stick their noses into anything we do, buy, wear, eat, or enjoy in our leisure time. It is time they all learned to shut up!
Next sermon, Dietary Apostasy #1 I bet it turns out after everything is said and done that, we need to listen to him and follow what he says, or we will lose our salvation.
It's a package deal. If youre there, it's because you're supposed to believe God is indwelling the minister, so what he says is directly from God. Excathedra. If you don't like it, don't let the door hit you on the way out. It's not that Jon gets in people's business, they are unable to or chose not to think for themself. Once you take that step to ask for advice, you're bound to take it, otherwise you will just so happen to be a coincidental indirect target of "I told you so" sermon material. You bring it on youtself. It's the name of the game. Play the game, or find a new parker brothers. Jon's time is only for believers. If you don't believe, and aren't 100% on board, why are you there? To waste everyone's time? The very whole basis of all COGS Is that God is using ONE man as the physical head of a spiritual body. Either he's the one or he's not. Chose wisely. If you're wrong, don't worry too much. You'll get a second chance to figure it out after death in the millenium. Because that's totally in the bible. Just blow off the dust on your bible, you'll find it. Totally in there
You assume I am member. Anyone can listen to the sermons for free on the website. Jons time is only for believers you say, well he then is not following Christ example at all. Christ had time for unbeliever and criminals, harlots. He had compassion for all. And what you said God is only using ONE man and yet Christ had 12 disciples and he told them to go out and make disciples of others. God uses many people to spread the word. Don't always assume those who post are members but maybe just observers. And yes, I do read the whole bible.
You have to follow the Herbert formula. Only a minister from direct tracible HWA ordination lineage is a real servant of God. Everybody else? false leaders who don't know the bible from their kitchen stove. Heretics that are deceived who will get their chance to actually know the truth in the millennium, after their first death (totally in the bible). HWA set the standard for the faith once delivered. I don't care what Jesus said. God's end time truth was revealed to just ONE man. He lost favor with God and Cole took the mantle. The torch has now been passed into Brisby's hand. He is now Gods representative on earth. What you think Jesus said means nothing. The bible is a coded book. Only a true servant of God can make sense of it. Learn your place and pay your tithe. Pay, pray, stay. God will take care of the ministers. You just need to be obedient.
Anon 4:32, I detect sarcasm.
Is HQ aware of what their "deaconess" out in TX is preaching? She is counselling an unstable man to leave his wife and home and move in with her. Most that attend there can tell he is not mentally competant and that she is taking advantage of the situation to her financial benefit. Its embarassing to watch.
I was unaware that COGTE had any deaconesses left. He must have ordained one? I'm assuming JW? The only one I was ever aware of was ordained back in WW and has since passed years ago. Very nice elderly lady who attended in Vancouver, WA.
Is anyone even paying attention over there? This guy is now turning the foods we choose to eat or do not eat into being salvational? Do not add, nor take away from the words of God. Wow, just wow.
It's not that meat is salvational. If Jesus talked to you personally and told you to do something, and you disobeyed, he'd probably send you to the lake of fire. Jon is Christs representative on earth. Obey or parish. Bacon = bad. Alcohol, yes please
I am wishing more sermons against Ego, Gossip, Bearing False Witness. Why straign at a Gnat but swallow Camels? Of course, I have nothing against Dietary Laws.
Anon Friday, December 16, 2022 at 1:33:00 AM, I know you're being sarcastic, but clearly, anyone who has basic common knowledge of the Bible, understands that there are things that are clearly salvational, and things that are just simply not. Sinning maybe, yes...but they are not the lake of fire worthy.
To the Gentiles grafted in, not a Jew after the flesh (you and me). 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Please show me where in the Bible it says that if you don't keep a Monday Pentecost, or Pentecost correctly, you lose your salvation. While we are on the topic of Pentecost, let us do a little logical analysis.
Follow me COGTE and you Sunday keeping splinters as well. If you do yours according to Leviticus chapter 23, and you further attempt to prove this by reading Acts chapter 2: And when the day of Pentecost fully come. These are your go-to texts. Let me ask you; what was chapter 2 of Acts really about? Think. Have we experienced anything like this in our day and age? The answer is no. Why? Because this was a special "one-off" if you will. It was the beginning of the New Testament Church and its initial growth. Never have you seen anything of its kind to date. So, let's follow this logically. Since this example in the Bible is clearly a one-off, and it's what you build your whole technical argument off of from Leviticus 23 to get to either a Monday or a Sunday, or even a Sivan 6 (Keep in mind it was a one-off); please tell me when it was you individually as members in particular of the body of Christ received your down payment of the Holy Spirit? Baptism correct? Where were all the other brethren? Certainly not all with you in the same place in one accord. Do you see the picture now? Pentecost is your Baptism which is sacred, which is Holy to the Lord, which is a covenant with the Lord. Not keeping it on a Monday, a Sunday, or a Sivan 6. Nothing wrong with keeping either of these days, but guess what? Only as a rehearsal. PROVE ME WRONG.
I can prove you wrong, easy. First of all only a clown who can't read thinks pentecost is on Monday. 50 count. Not 51 count. The 50th year is jubilee right? Not the 51st. The bible clearly says 7 Sabbaths, 49 days complete then it's the pentecost. "Fully come" doesn't mean you add an extra day, it means the 49 days, 7 Sabbaths are completed. Cole never believed it was Monday. He made a choice to believe Armstrong was right even though it didn't make sense. As for the holy spirit, you receive it the moment you first believe, not from some magical dunking experience from a correct lineage WW minister. Baptism is a sign of obedience and outward proclamation of what God's done in your life, and as a public testimony. Back to pentecost, none are "doing it" correctly. They're just playing dress up. The bible has clear direction for how pentecost was to be celebrated. With no temple, no Levites, you're just making things up hoping for browny points in heaven. The first Christian pentecost was not "keeping it.". The were hanging out praying as they were instructed, and the fulfillment came. That's it. The shaddow became the reality. If anything if one felt compelled, that's the service they should mimic, get together and pray and glorify God. Not some rigid 2 service potluck schedule where you have sermons about Jesus being a liar if HWA wasn't God's man, or how saucy food and jello will send you to the lake of fire.
You're right, pentecost is your baptism. Holy spirit baptism that comes the moment you first believe.
I don't even know what to think or say about Brisby anymore. He has went so far afield, and yet people are still following him over the cliff.
Aside from the warped and corrupt teaching he continues to spew, he is going to have a lot to answer for with the marriages he has meddled in. I know of at least 5 so far with 2 of them ending in separations. I would not want to be in his boots on judgement day.
JWB acts like he wants to be another Garner Ted. He likes having the feeling of power over weak minded gullible members who cannot make any simple decision without consulting him. The members cannot ever let go of the fact that HWA did not stay alive long enough to lead them to Petra. JWB likes hearing and telling the sleazy details of a man that wants to be free of his wife because she wont obey. Disgusting.
Can you imagine that some people call Jon to see if they can listen to certain music. The music was praising God and Jon said no don't listen to it. It is sad people can't discern for themselves about things like that. When is it ever bad to listen to music praising God?
Jon knows trump is still president. Be ready. Place of safety is in yachats, amongst the gays where Jon has placed God's name. They will protect us. La tee dah!
Their church is shrinking so small that they will be grouping all together at one site for their feast. They will have to stop renting the facility in Townsend Tenessee because it will cost them too much money. They will probably rent a small conference room in a library or motel soon.
NO, they will set up a tent on the property they bought there in Maryville Tenn. They have 5 acres with a house. They are spending thousands of dollars to rent the barn in Townsend. IN the last co-worker letter, Eugene (the office) will be a Feast site and Townsend. Plus, they are forced to buy two catered meals from the barn. Just my thoughts on this issue.
A physical church made up of physical members who are not being fed spiritual nourishment, will die. There is just no way around that fact. Those members are just going to have to sit there and watch it play out. Either get off the boat before it completely sinks so that you have some of your spiritual armor still in tact, or be the one who is most miserable at its demise.
A member has an unconverted wife. JB has advised him to get a divorce. He wants to be free of his wife burden and marry J's sister. He has been texting J's sister for months and told her his feelings. She has not told him to stop which gives him hope that they have a future life together.
Like I told you before she will not marry him. He will be divorced, unless they both leave the church. This won't happen it would make Jon look bad. Texting means nothing. Like I asked before and you refuse to answer How do you know all this?
online or texting romance, carried on by people married to others, is considered infidelity and adultery, but it is ok if it is church leadership, right?
I seem to remember the Apostle Paul reprimanding the church in Corinth for not putting such situations out of the church as a group. Seems like all look to the Supreme leader now, it is the primacy of Jon.
Yes, the leadership is above the law, at least they think so. God does not care if you are a minister, if you are breaking the law YOU will be judged.
If you are talking about Jons sister, she is not in a leadership position.
Dietary Apostasy #3
I listened to it. The Mark of the Beast seems to be what dietary laws we keep. Also, it is (all you peoples) fault for why there is no healing in the church. I think Jon turning into a vegan. In #4 he is going to tell us how much you can eat and what to eat. We are supposed to follow the hippy lifestyle. Like practice farm to table style of living. That means no crackers, chips, hotdogs, bread, and etc. In #3 he is playing down HWA because we are not to look to a man. I really don't believe him because he always talk very highly of him in each sermon. Buckle up your seatbelts because he's coming after your food choices and HOW much you can eat now.
Everybody knows texting & online affair is the same as in person affair. She must be enjoying it since she has not told the married man to stop and she is leading him on. JWB is aware since he is advising him to divorce his wife.
Yes, she most certainly is!
Who cares what Jon's sister is doing. Are you hearing the gospel? Is balogna salvational? Is the point of preachers to talk about food? Is God going to separate the goats and sheep based on dietary choices? You're Puting up with way more outrageous things than adults personal love affairs
Yeah didn't you know that even though you may have done everything right spiritually, and made your calling and election sure; that you can Still be turned away from the Kingdom over a snickers bar? Look it up, it's a part of the faith once delivered that Jude spoke of that Herbert spoke of.
Of course I am being sarcastic. Those poor brethren whom I know many of, need to run as fast as they can from that cult before it really is to late.
our church is very sick! It's all about flesh. "schemes" as "superhuman craftiness, capable of drawing careless Christians into sins .
Remember the dozens of sermons on marriage? Now finding out the pastor is advising divorce to an unhappily married man because he wants to marry J's sister.
How are you connected to this couple to now all of this?
One may wonder what this has to do with anything. Focus on Jesus in Jon, This will help us connect to Christ. Jon's Sister allowed the shame of her nakedness to be uncovered. Mr. Cole war right about this subject. Filthy garments in our little Church. - where are you Jon? where are you Sister ? Faith alone is dead! Sin, Sin, Sin,
It's amazing people are surprised a church started by a liar back in the 1930s has a bunch of drama and scandals. The cancer started at the beginning. Quit swimming in cancer and complaining about cancer. Find a new pool, quit trying to filter out the pee in the cancer pool.
It is very very hard for someone who has their whole spiritual livelihood wrapped up in an organization, to leave that organization. This is because at some point during their calling/conversion process, they began to transfer their focus from the spiritual (Jesus) onto the physical; in other words the building they sit in, the men speaking, their doctrine, etc... This is not something that is done necessarily on purpose, but is just a natural thing that progresses overtime. The other problem with this is that the men in "charge" who become aware of this behavior with the brethren, begin to do this themselves, thus the perverted teachings that begin to slip in, the ministers aggressive behavior and so forth. I can no more blame Jon, than I can those that sit before him. He is deceived, therefore he deceives.
The most important thing a member must do once the Holy Spirit begins to make them aware that things are not right, is to begin to reorient their focus back to their initial calling. The zeal they had for it. Christ did not call you to fail, but Satan wants you to, and he does not care by what means it happens. This is just one of many, discouragement. Keeping that in mind, once you begin to reorient and begin to see the picture clearly as to what has happened, you must then make an exit plan that will allow you to stay focused on that initial calling. Guess what? It may require you to sit it out alone for awhile, or seeking out others who were in the same boat, but be patient; God does deliver the answers, I know. Divorce yourself of all the fear tactic statements that you have been indoctrinated with over the years about losing your salvation. What is required of you only, is to stay the course regardless of what state you find yourself in.
If you have been listening to Jons sermons, you will clearly hear the lack of Christ in them. When all he does is continually talk of old articles, men, physical things, the spirit is gone. Pay attention so that you to do not become lost through the physical worship of men.
Well said truth and anon 6:59. Except id not listen to any sermons. That would be like listening to my dog vomit and eat it again on infinite repeat. Ya no thanks. I'd rather listen to Rosie O'Donnell taking a big fat lesbian dump. I'd rather let an autistic child scratch a chalk board by my bedside all night long. I'd rather listen to Kamala Harris cry. I'd rather listen to Joe Biden clip his toenails and have his diaper changed. I'd rather... You get it..
a preacher is telling a filandering man to divorce his wife and the preacher's sister is leading this same man to think he can secretly marry her what the hell kind of cult are these people running?
We know this already about the preachers sister. Why do you keep repeating it? Got anything else?
@Anonymous said...
We know this already...
Playing their greatest hits, lol
If you are so concerned, what action are you taking to prevent it?
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. We need a Spirit filled Church. Today we focus on Flesh. We follow a man to wander, to roam into errors, My Bible makes it clear that the elect of God cannot be deceived. My Bible firmly speaks to the fact that the elect are protected by God from deceptions that would result in eternal separation from Christ. “At one time Today we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures.
The elect are not protected by God from deception. The Bible is clear on that.
You have to pray for a discerning spirit. It is not always there. The elect can be deceived very easily.
If the Apostle Paul has to tell the Church to "try the spirits" because many (not a few) false prophets have went out into the world, then it is clear that deception is possible. No need for a warning if it was not possible that even the "very elect can be deceived.
Come on COGTE, dust off the Bible and stop resting on every word that dribbles out of that man's mouth over there. Your salvation depends on it.
The people that go to the United church of God are just as deceived that go the Living church of God. Any of these splinters are deceived and they don't realize it.
Did these politicians have senior Nazi grandfathers? Are we watching world News?
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-no-olaf-scholzs-grandfather-was-not-a-nazi-ss-commander/a-61595179
Sorry we never hear bleak prophecy ! We follow the bible and fear not !
Mr. Brisby cannot tell a false prophecy or preach a lie. With Christ dwelling within him we know we are receiving the REAL truth of God. Only blasphemers try to discredit him.
Friday, January 13, 2023 at 12:53:00 AM PST
Mr Brisby is your God? Be Careful” serves as a public warning .
Only Mr.Brisby gives us News. We don't need to watch . Watch your sins only!
True Pastor ? Duty is when we do something that we’d rather not do. Duty is when we do it because it needs to be done and we are the one charged with doing it, and there’s no other person, but ourselves that can do it. It’s our duty to show up. It’s our duty to perform a service, a deed, to take a particular action. Duty is what we do anyway because, again, it’s fallen our lot.
Preacher and Sis dont practice the marriage rules they preach. Hypocrites!
Brisby doesn't preach Christian duty.
Brisby preaches armstrong doody.
Ww preachers don't actually believe the horse crap they feed you. Silly dumb heads.. they're keeping you small minded peons on a psychological leash, because without cults to keep you constrained and entertained, you'd be out there poisoning the world with your dismal IQ. Too stupid to research your own religion. Armstrongism is the special Olympics of religion, in a losing endurance race with the mormontards and jeepers witnesses.
This page is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Yes this page is very important for those seeking answers as to why they are getting taken by these charlatans. Brisby is no different than any of the other ones. He claims it because of some of their doctrines, but when you behave as all the others do, everything goes out the window with your claims.
Besides that, if you put many of his teachings to the test against the true word of God, the Bible, you'll find many go back to his own speculations or stretching of the scripture in order to not sale, but force his agenda down the throats of many of those gullible brothers and sisters of ours.
Make no mistake, his behavior will backfire.
Here Philippines all peolpe don't hear Mr Briby on prophecy. We are forced to read online SEARCHABLE LIBRARY. Would seem to me that Brisby has lost end time Phrophecy. He rejected Original, Unedited Plain truth prophecys. Now I know my Church is Dead. Sad but very true.
The Sister of Jon should be put out of the church. We allowed Satan a door into the Church in USA.
What if Jons sister is just being gossip about and none of this is true? And some one is just causing problems here. There has been no proof shown, just someone comment about it.
The plain truth magazine was a collection of false prophecies. Jon is atleast smart enough to realize that. It's why he doesn't get into those things. But you duped lemmings want more. You want more prophecy speculation that won't come true? Or sermons about white rice and neck ties? Anything but the gospel right. That wishy washy Jesus stuff is hard to bear. Saved by grace? What does that even mean? Look at my works God! I didn't eat bacon or check my emails on the Sabbath! Where's my mansion!? I'm gonna be God too, right? Wrong. The doctrine is as wrong as the prophetic predictions.
Of course none of that is true. It's the same thing that happened to me, soneone in this fellowship spread rumors that I was sleeping with and flirting with someone else in this fellowship, comitting adultery, sometime later, that same gossiper who spread rumors had an accident. So like I said, be very careful. Time will tell.
Be careful how your thought pattern works, if you continually think evil and misinterpret people's actions, you destroy people's FAITH, relationships, friendship. Especially when you spread vile falsified rumors abt them, even laugh mock at your own brethren. When you cause internal distress and they cry abt it, just wait.
Think again : Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you…” (2 Thessalonians 1:6)
Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:07:00 PM PST
Fearmongering, or scaremongering, is a form of manipulation. Cults at Work.
Yesw we are under Authoritarian control. I see Signs of Reverse Psychology.
Rock Star If your attempt to use reverse psychology backfires, you'll either have to admit that you were trying to manipulate them—or find some way to explain your sudden change of mind.
I am shocked with Brisby after studying this blog. I thought Brisby came to us As the mystery of God, Christ is the embodiment of Jon's Body. Why do we belive Christ here on earth in Jon? We should seek the Kingdom of heaven . Satan is cast down to earth. Heaven if free from satans rule and power.
oh, it is true. ask them about it.
The Church of God, under its late human leader, Herbert W. Armstrong, taught that there are ministerial ranks and functions in that Body.
Your Church has lost that understanding.
All the New Truths and understanding is blessed by Jesus . Jesus works in Mr.Brisby he serves us all. I respect Him for the Works Sake. We are growing as a body to build the faith . That's real work!
Command Sergeant Jon Brisby to Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel. Those Pastors will not because many are ashamed of the gospel. Don't conceal. Declare among the nations and publish. Yes Publish do the Work of Jesus. Ask Him too publish the name of the LORD among the Nations. Show me the magazine, or newspaper ? Prepare and produce . If that someone does bears fruit, Be “fishers of men. And the gospel must first 1st be published among all nations. Jon Hates when you ask him about any suggestions to Work the works of Christ. If that Christ lives in out Church we would do the above.
We are the light of the world ? A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid ? Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel ?, but on a candlestick; ? SARDIS: THE "DEAD" CHURCH-was described as being “dead Why? The church was Christian in name only.
Seemed quite religious but denied God’s power in their lives by doing the Work. Think about it pray about it and act upon the Word. Who then is the faithful and wise steward ? Faith has required actions. Show us the Faith? You have Works? Show me the Works.
The Gospel is already being preached by other churches. So tithe/offering money he collects is spent on his vacation trips around the world.
Jon gets his ego stroked by travelling around the world pretending to be a big shot CEO and religious guru.
Are the US and Europe uniting or drifting apart?
The War in Ukraine brought Europe and the United States closer, but domestic realities may be pulling them apart. Prophecy shows 10 kings … will arise in Europe and give their power to Germany.” Herbert W. Armstrong made that statement in a letter in 1962—54 years ago.
Mr. Armstrong said over 50 years ago. “You’re going to have to live and see it, and you’re going to have to know that God was speaking when He said that this thing was coming.”
Herbert Armstrong was a false prophet. You might as well be quoting Joseph Smith, or Ellen White.
How many prophecies can you find that did not come through, He was just off in his timing.
@Anon 4:16
Watch this short clip Herbert admits that if what he says doesn't come to pass in the time that he declares, it means he's a false prophet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UB-mxI6OC_A
Now you have two choices
- He was speaking a false prophecy
or
- He taught lies about prophecy
Either way his own words condemn him to be a false prophet and false teacher.
Why do people just ignore even HWA owns words about being a false teacher?
Petra
Ya'll gotta see dis! Flat earthers now think the world is shaped like a donut: https://youtu.be/xDHhwfZl7rU
People ignore HWAs own words on him being a false prophet because it is within man's nature to want to worship man. Matthew chapter 17 is a prime example of this. Peter wanted to build Tabernacles to 2 men including Jesus. God stopped his request short and said WORSHIP HIS SON. And so it goes. And it shall continue. There are those who will continue to worship Brisby, Pack, Flurry and many others until the true one who is worthy to be worshipped returns.
Brisby and Weinland want people to think they will be the 2 witnesses of the last days so that they can get more donations. Its all about money and mind control.
Why does Jon visit all the old people in the church? I feel like it is to get their money after they die.
Are there even any young people?
Jon visits the old to acquire their assets once they are dead. This amasses his fortune, or filthy lucre for when it is time.
No there are no young people there really.
He picks up extra $ donations at those home visits too.
Money laundering involves disguising financial assets
prayer request over there now are not allowed.
This is not true, and you know that. You are just trying to start something.
They actually think they're the only right ones out of 8 billion living, and billions and billions who lived before them, not in their little club. Lol they think theyre gonna be "God as God is.". Oh you're darn right I'm a scoffer, scoffing at blatant heretics following a satanic doctrine invented by a false prophet sex pervert. Don't worry about MY shoes.. yours will be clicking like Dorothy to the rythem of your chattering teeth on judgement day if you are given the opportunity to wake up and you reject it. If you see the errors, but don't try all things, that means you are a willful partaker in the blasphemy against Christ, who deliberately warned about lying cults. Time, is, running, out.
Now that is true, they think they are the only ones.
I kinda like it. I only stay because it's hilarious. Some people have no idea how wacky they are. I just pretend I am too This shits comedic gold. And the suspense.. like what dumshit will we be told next.. followed by the drama that ensues.. we bitch, we moan, we vent outside, (too stuffy with the hot air inside) but come next Sabbath, we say "thank you sir may I have another!" And the cycle repeats
FredMeyer We will pray for your eyes to see Christ. Satan has caused you an infection in the mouth.
The fake preacher and his sister who are running this cult are not christians. They dont practice the rules they try to force on brainwashed members. Preacher telling a cheating man (who is carrying on an online romance with preacher's sister) to dump his wife. These people running this cult are disgusting hypocrites.
Fred Meyer repent. And lower your prices on organic buckwheat and millet please
His next sermon title is not what it says. He mentioned death about 15 time in a 108-minute sermon. Here is some of his speaking points, Rocket ride to hell 3 times, Firey death, headed for hell, damnation, hurdling to destruction, hurdling toward damnation, eternal death and the final one, if you don't listen, it will lead to destruction. I thought I was listening to a Baptist or Pentecostal minister, but no it was Jon. I think he was trying to scare people from leaving his little group.
Hey, If we are to follow Herbert Armstrong he said Duck, Swan was clean meats !!!!!
He can speak on what he wants, it is his church.
Point taken, it is his church. When you own everything and your the big dog with no one to answer to, that's how it goes down.
Good description of a cult.
A good, even a mediocre pastor should be in tune with the laity. He should be aware of their struggles, their troubles, worries, etc... Jon is not, neither is he concerned with any of this. It bares out in his messages.
This Pastor must really feel stupid doing videos . He lives in our communitie our neighbors know about this blog. I have had deep conversations with those next door to us. We all know that poor lady he lives with. She would be burdened by abuse of power with Him. Those poor little kids he had were locked up and burdended. I can still hear those boys when younger crying out in fear. Those boys must of left years ago ? His Boy's could not run on there holiday. It was the law never to run on weekend. You know he still speeds up past our home like an insane person. He even killed our Cat speeding last year. I have all this on Video Camcorder. When he fixed the fence all he done was sweet and we could hear his bad language.
Swear Words are not Christianity. A few weeks latter His Riding Lawnmower was out cutting the grass at 5am sunday.Those annoying habits are really troublesome to us.
this blog gives me the giggles . Kinda like it. Mrs Brisby would not be happy Jon killing cats.
Stress in the church because we see europe and united states going down.
Mr.Brisby has become very scholarly. I want the Bible not ideas out of his own head.
Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:09:00 PM PST,
When a Devil makes his home inside a person you can expect those kind of things to take place.
Robert G. Burke is a little wet under the ears. He hears Jon giving sermons about deep space?
He doesn't do lawns, so I know this is only a story you are telling.
Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 4:24:00 AM PST
Could of been his Local lawn care busines guy ? 5am is far usual especially on Sunday. Why this time just to wake people up? I am emphasizing because we are his Neighbours. We know what what only we see and hear. So please never be Naive .
Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 6:02:00 PM PST,
Jon your up early again , to respond.
Jon lives in a condo so he doesn't have to do lawns.
Wonder how that $12,000 violin is doing? Or 50k piano? Keep paying your third tithe suckers
He also has a sailboat and a sporty little sport car.
Omg what? Is he smart enough to play them? Does he play them special music at church?
Does he have a $24000 Cello?
I'd like to borrow it. I am a Cellist wanna be. 😀
To all dirty minded brethren,
attempts to living the Christian life requires being nice nice
to others - that does not mean - someone is attracted to you!
so keep your dirt to yourself!
also, that could possibly mean, you think you're that attractive? REALLY?
Jon thinks he is hot stuff, but he is not.
Well, when Jon parades around in his tight pants letting us know whether or not he is a Gentile, I would say I have the right to look. Oh, and I AM good-looking!!!!
Just because you live in an condo doesn’t mean you don’t do laws. Your know nothing . I live on the same street.
Maybe those ladies need not watch his pants. Focus upon not his flesh. Isn’t Jon’s fault he has long penis.
Hit a nerve? But it is ok if it's church leadership, right. Dirty hypocrites!
you dirty people you all need to repent
The only person who needs to repent is Jon for the absolute CRAP that he preaches regardless of his tight pants.
Stop talking about Jon's tight pants! Unconverted Jezabel's!
we have quite a conundrum here. If Jesus is dwelling in Jon's body, as some believe, then those pants created a new issue. What would Jesus wear?
Life's pretty straight without tight pants.
Jesus really lives in Mr.Brisby. He is getting Tourist Attractions.
True. And for advising a mentally incompetant man to divorce his wife because she wont join. Maybe Jon will support that man financially when the divorce is over because he will need a place to live. Or maybe he will marry Jon's sister.
Jons sister has her own home. Has anybody been invited to go sailing with him. I know Justin Nalder and his son Tom has, but has any of the poorer people been invited?
He wouldn't be seen in public with those low class poor people. Plus, they would see the lavish lifestyle their donations really pay for.
Nalder and his son Tom can watch us down at Bobbi's VIP room. Bring some tips boys.
Jon the King, Those under him the the lower class. Pay and pray. Ding wow $$$$
This blog is fantastic ... Casting the book open. Many Worms are seen by all.
Are Lesbians welcome to come and join the church ?
millennial men are religiously washing their bed sheets every two weeks.
Meanwhile, ladies can only be bothered to change their bedding once every month. Those Church ladies need to act.
You guys are talking nonsense and you know it.
I guess it is a good way to distract from the real issues going on over there. You have a false teacher, and your doctrine has become corrupted. What does Gods word instruct you to do?
He preaches dozens of sermons on marriage while he secretly advises men to divorce their unconverted wives. Disgusting liar!
PROPHECY IS a crucial subject. Jon will reject any true Delaring from the beginning. Jon has no real confidence in any Prophecy. Ask the question is he partakers of Christ? Open your Bible : For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;”
Out of the 66 books in the Bible, 18 are named after prophets. And other books have many prophecies. If you believe the Bible, you cannot overlook Bible prophecy. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure” (Isaiah 46:9-10). Here God says explicitly that He declares the end from the beginning—that He prophesies future world events.
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” (Rev. 22:18–19.) The Antichrist will disregard the “gods of his fathers” (meaning traditional Prophecy The Book of Revelation Unveiled at Last! - Herbert W. Armstrong and will initiate something previously unheard of.
crucial subject WE REJECT YOUR VIEWS. sHUT UP and follow Mr.Brisby. You people are the devils tools. Screw you and shutup.
Be careful of whose dainty meal you eat, or you will be called an " Opportunist ". For crying out loud.
Just listen to Mr.Brisby. The people on this blog are working for satanic causes. We are the only people on earth that understand divine truth. Focus upon how special we really are and thank God we understand true knowledge. We are certainly the royal ones headed for the kingdom. When we hear Jon we know Christ is speaking. It’s not coming unto us by a man. I look upon him as Christ born into our fellowship. Keep the family strong by obeying his rules over the church. At the very moment our church is a mystery to the world. But once fully born again we will shine a golden light. Jon will help us all achieve being born. All are in that moment in history. We will shine and glow with great glory. The doctrine of health healing and being born again are clearly linked. Many young in out church are experiencing challenges with satanic forces. Please pray and support them with love care and discipline strategies. Maybe those comments here are youths in church sitting listening and not practicing the doctrines. It’s not a perfect church we have problems in the home office, clearly we need a clean out there. Office in handling offerings should be looked into. My last statement wasn’t accurate.
Friday, February 10, 2023 at 5:30:00 AM PST
peace of mind in your own hands, with the fundamentals if only you would Repent
German politicians and military chiefs suggest return of conscription. Most people in Church reporting and reading the news sense that the world is becoming an increasingly dangerous place, excluding Jon. DISTURBING PARALLELS we don't see in our Church. . The lesson of history is that we need to listen carefully to what influential Germans are saying and doing, because their words and actions are right in front of us today! Bible prophecies focus on events to come - long-foretold events resemble what is developing today on the world scene and in our church. "I am fashioning a disaster and devising a plan against you… because My people have forgotten Me" (Jeremiah 18:11. Modern Germany is referred to by its ancient name "Assyria . Jon Hates you saying that. Today Germany is an ally of America and Britain. Yet Bible prophecies indicate that Israelite allies—including Assyria—will suddenly turn into enemies (Ezekiel 23:5–24). God will use the Germans' remarkable aptitudes—including their military proficiency—to accomplish His purpose. Germany will be God's tool of correction to show prophecies are real. Jon scoff's at this scenario. Only those who are alert and awake—who have repented and changed (Acts 2:38–40), and persevered in doing the work that Jesus commissioned—will escape this coming conflict of eagles (Revelation 3:8–13). Will this include you ?
Friday, February 10, 2023 at 5:30:00 AM PST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBFklAjf-ps
America, Britain and Israel Under Attack
copy link watch
The Forgotten Seven Day Feast. God Will make the truth Known!
Some smaller churches will be observing the Festival of Unleavened Bread in 2023 for the full seven days – but for most people, particularly those who were in the Worldwide Church of God, “The Feast” means Tabernacles. Very few are aware that the Church, under its former name, the Radio Church of God, also celebrated the Festival of Unleavened Bread for the full seven days – not just the two annual high days as now.
Roderick Meredith reported in the May, 1962, issue of The Good News magazine that,
“In SEVEN major Festivals here in America, plus others in England, Australia and around the world – a glorious season was observed this year! “THEREFORE let us KEEP THE FEAST …” (I Cor. 5:8).
In obeying this inspired New Testament COMMAND to Christians, over TEN THOUSAND brethren of God’s Church assembled this spring to observe the Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread. All reports indicate that there was GREAT JOY in this observance.”
Why then in 1968 (the year the church was renamed Worldwide) were all the festival sites discontinued? – Money.
Herbert Armstrong wanted church members to be in a financial position to contribute heavily toward “the Gospel” – according to the article Days of Unleavened Bread – How Should They Be Observed? [p.4] by the Church of God the Eternal (supporting the change to observing the 2 high days only).
“… the receipt of income for “the Gospel” was appreciably reduced each Spring, because most of the members did not receive any salary or wages during the week they attended the seven Days of Unleavened Bread. Consequently, tithes and offerings dropped off alarmingly in the Spring …
It was felt by Mr. Armstrong that if the Gospel were to continue to go forth with growth and power, the membership would have to be in a financial position to contribute heavily. The observance of the Days of Unleavened Bread for the full seven days was thwarting this effort.”
World War Two bomb suddenly exploded here in the UK.
It is always about money.
Carob balls?
Fruit cakes mixed with chocolate.
We definitely should be keeping ULB ! As a new member I’m shocked at knowing that we celebrated and assembled on all those days. No wonder it’s called the Feast. We should return to those truths. Talk about faith once delivered but walk the path not just lip service as we do. Radio church of God had Devine truth.
Jon Spent $690 on the Eclipse Tuner.
That's going to cost too much. We are not under feast days.
Thanks for the NEWS & INFORMATION. How do you know that ?
I know the Guitar Center owner. He said Jon has done many sale in his store.
Swiss bank account?
Just pay attention to what is being spoken from the pulpit. If it doesn't compare to scripture correctly, dismiss Jon.
Preaching all those sermons on marriage while secretly telling a married man to divorce his wife. Disgusting hypocrite.
Portland, Oregon Beyond Today magazines
to local donut shops, a restaurant
and a few laundromats. After MANY
new people showed up at services
in response to a magazine insert,
I interviewed Gerald about his
local distribution program and
the techniques that have worked
in that are PEOPLE are crying out for truth.
The Portland, Oregon, congregation appreciates what
Gerald has done to help spread
the gospel. He is a good example of a local member who is
making a significant contribution. We are now seeing some
fruit from his efforts! But we know Jon Hates us doing the Work.
“I will break the pride of your power,” God thundered
at our ancestors more than 3,000 years ago, “And your
strength shall be spent in vain.”
To people who do not believe in prophesies, I would like to say that if there was no God who gave His Apostles foreknowledge of mighty events, then who was it that told Ezekiel two thousand and five hundred years ago that Russia would embark upon a program of world conquest, aggression and aggrandisement, so that God’s wrath would be kindled against it and the punishment from heaven would leave its power in ruins. When we give due thought to this prophecy and the extraordinary manner in which it has come true in our own days, we are forced to conclude that God who conveys such tidings to His chosen servants really does exist. And if God does exist, and He gave to Ezekiel foreknowledge of these events, we must also bear in mind that God Almighty does not wish that the Communist system, which forms the basis of Russia’s political economy and social structure, should be permanently established in the world; and that its downfall is not very far away.
@Anon 2:03
In the next 5-10 years right? We're in the last 19 year time cycle right? Pretty soon Mussolini oops, Hitler oops, Stalin oops, the Pope will surround Jerusalem and attack the USA right?
Someone claimed they are the ones with the 5 talents, they grew up in the Church, know all the laws, kept them, and had better choices, better environment. Why oh why then, are you the ones causing offense by your own silly minds, your insults, sarcastic bouts, causing brethren with 1 or 2 talents to fall? Learn Now to keep your silly minds, silly mouths in check!
Priest John should tell his sister that online romance with a married man same as adultery, right! He should fire her and disfellowship her. Church leadership should not be allowed to do what lay members aren't.
I can tell you right know he will never disfellowship his sister. Even if she is doing what you say. Different rules for different people. And that is the way it is in ALL the splinter groups. The leadership follow their own rules.
JB is on a luxurious vacation around the world while elderly people/members are sending in money they need for their own food and bills to the scoundrels running this cult. Wouldn't it be a lot less costly to use the internet to communicate with the team leaders in other regions?
With as business minded as JB claims to be, absolutely those trips should be cut out. There is no reason to be using tithe on plane tickets and living quarters to go visit 15 people in a far off country. I guarantee if you did a cost analysis, the benefit to putting that money where it is really needed, would far out way a paid vacation by the brethren. Does anyone really think he is traveling to these far off locations to "feed the sheep"? Come on, look at the message content.
Jon has not been honest for a long time. He just came back from Australia from a 2-week vacation to meet with 7 people. He and Kim are coming home from France and Switzerland. They have less than 20 people in both countries. Why not have zoom meeting if it that important?
Your absolutely correct. It can easily be done over zoom. Spending thousands on trips, when he should be looking at those that truly need it in the church. The Bible warned us against men like this, but to many people are caught up in following these men that they become blinded. It plays out time after time.
Only 7 brothers and sisters in Australia left now? What happend to them all? I would love to know the real truth. There were a family of very dedicated and Faithful people.
They like their super man. He flies the world to eat brown rice at their own home! Stop trying to take him away from them. This is what they want. They're banking on it. Their chips are all in. Jon is super man, or their concept of Jesus is a liar. There's no other possibilities. Except maybe.. they're deceived...???
willfully brainwashed
"Let them eat Cake..."
I don't think they are allowed to eat cake anymore, because of all the bad stuff in cake.LOL
I accept Sees Candies as reconciliation fee for those brethren who hurt my feelings. A brother offended is hard to be won, but Sees Candies will do good.
They must have changed their doctrine about women preaching. The deaconess down in Texas sure likes her authority. She is counselling a mentally unstable man to hide money from his wife, disrespect and lie to his wife. She has instructed him to hide thousands of dollars from his wife and give to the deaconess. She has put pressure on him to leave his wife and move in with her because she is playing the poor old broke lady victim. She taught him how to hide money and structure cash into money orders so his wife wont find out.
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