Ron Weinland: The Epic Failure Says Christ Decided The Time Was Not Right To Return Today

Poor Ron Weinland. He is such an epic failure when it comes to predicting correct prophecies.  Every single one has has announced has failed miserably!

May 19, 2013
Since God has revealed it is not yet time for His Son to return, there are areas of our websites that must be updated to reflect what God is revealing.

Knowing he was going to be a failure and now exposed as one he quickly resorts to a typical false prophets excuse:  "God has more for us to learn."

You should find it exciting as we address several issues because it is as a result of all that we have experienced (witnessed) that God is now revealing more to us. As we go through these things that God is clarifying and magnifying for us, try to consider how God has used our experience(s) to increase our ability to more fully grasp why and how we have been molded as we have.

 Even though Weinerdude has screwed up the date so many times now that he is a laughing stock, he claims that God is STILL going to give him the exact date sometime in the near future. Then to further distance himself from his epic failure he blames it all on God.

There are always those who find fault and seek to discredit God’s servants, and undoubtedly, some will also foolishly recount their misunderstanding of “no man knows the day or the hour” of Christ’s return. They would still be wrong. God is not at this time giving me a specific year to announce, but He will. Yet for the Church, He wouldn’t even need to give that specific date now, as the Church will know well in advance when Christ is coming   to the “day” and to the “hour” because of truths God has revealed to the church.

 Ron's god changes his mind a lot.  Even though his god changes his mind and makes Ron look like an ididot, that same god will still only reveal himself through Ron.

As God molds His way of life within those who desire that and if they yield to that process then who is it that can stand before the Eternal God and tell Him what He can give or cannot give unto His own Church? Can God change what (or to a degree of what) He says through His prophets? Whenever God changes, or reveals a specific purpose, or a greater truth in any matter, especially about prophecy, He will reveal it through His apostles and/or prophets. That is exactly how God has always led and worked with His Church. Truth, however, never changes, but it is clarified and magnified to God’s people as He leads His people farther and farther out of error and into greater unity and oneness with His word   His truth.

Though this creature he calls "christ" did not come this year, he almost assuredly will next Pentecost.  Well, maybe the one after that.  Or the one after that.  Or after that....

Having said all this, if the exact year of Christ’s return is not given before hand, it will most assuredly be known once the events of the Second Trumpet occur and are made manifest to the entire world. Then the exact day and hour will be known as God has revealed it through two great truths concerning this matter. First, it is that Christ will return on the Day of Pentecost. So God’s Church is still moving forward, just as we did last year, from Pentecost to Pentecost.

Even though his created creature "christ" did not return, the 144,000 were sealed though on May 19th.

The Feast of Trumpets 2008 was the day for the beginning of the final sealing for those who would be included in the final count of the 144,000 who will come with Jesus Christ to set up the reign of the Kingdom of God on earth. The 144,000 will reign with Jesus Christ, and the reign of Satan will no longer exist over the earth.

This process of sealing all those remaining who would be added in order to fulfill the complete count of 144,000 began on that Trumpets of 2008, but was not completed until Pentecost of 2012. Some were sealed on that day of Trumpets 2008, while others were sealed throughout the following 1335 days, including the very last day. During that period of time and into the period of “final witness,” some would still be tried and tested to determine the final individuals who were yet to be added to this specific count of those who would reign with Christ.

7,000 people have been judged by Ron's god to not have made it.

Throughout this period of time, as individuals were tried and tested, some were sealed, and others were judged that they would continue living (physically) on into the Millennium to continue serving God during that time. Yet a few others were judged that they should not live into the Millennium due to their response to God regarding those trials and tests. These will be among the 7,000 “mentioned by name” who are not to enter that new age as described in Revelation.

 If you are one of the 144,000 you have now been made ready to reign with Ron's "christ."

Pentecost 2012 was indeed a momentous day in God’s great plan because it revealed a process that had now become complete in the first great phase of God’s “new creation” of fulfilling His work of preparing 144,000 people over a 6,000 year period of time. All these people through time had now been made ready to reign in the Millennium. The completion of this process of all who have been made ready to reign with Christ and have waited in faith for the promise of God’s Kingdom are spoken of in the Book of Daniel. By the day of Pentecost of 2012, all 144,000 had been sealed and God’s Kingdom had been made ready to reign. “Blessed is he who waits and comes to the thousand three hundred and thirty fifth day” (Dan. 12:12).

Ron and his cult have been going through intense persecution over the last year.  They have been through the "refiners fire."

So how was this first prophetic day a blessing and reward to God’s people? In the thinking of the world and of Satan, it is ironic, but it is by going through great trials of adversity and refining through fire (trial) that we can actually grow faster spiritually and be tried and proven in greater (growing) faith. This process has been covered in recent posts. We were blessed and rewarded beyond measure because of what we experienced in the time of witness and of our holding to God’s truth. As a whole, we have been made many times stronger and blessed (rewarded) with greater spiritual character, strength, and resolve that was molded (created) in us. This does not account for how God will reward His people once the Millennium has been established, which is far beyond what we can know at this time. Those things (future rewards) have now been set if we simply continue in the faith.

Ron and his little disintegrating cult are looking with glee for their god to wreck vengeance upon the world, particularly those that mock them.

The “day” of the Lord’s vengeance is both a simple statement that it is God’s “time” to avenge His people as well as a “time” to pour out vengeance upon the world for rejecting Him and His people. It speaks of a year of “recompenses,” as it is about a literal year of recompense for His Church that followed their experience of living the “final witness” to this world   about this world. It is also about a literal year of recompense that will follow that is upon this world. That year of recompense for the world is for the evil it has lived by always rejecting God and is the result of God’s final judgment based on 6,000 years of human history and magnified with final judgment in the time of the final witness of 3 1/2 years.

 Ron has been a liar from day one.  Not one single thing he has said has ever happened.  It has not happened in the past, it did not happen TODAY, May 19th and will not happen next Pentecost or the one after that, or the oen after that, or the one after that, on and on and on the lies will go.

Dave Pack Says: "Caption This Photo"

Some that come to mind:

The Holy Child of God

The Chosen One

Damn! You Are Good!

Dave, I hardly knew ya.

From comments below:

My Father gave me this for Christmas. My very own picture of the Messiah, Joshua Son of Nut

But DAD! It's a velvet painting of the Messiah!!! Can I keep it?

Um, did Dumbo loose his ears or something?

Dad says I look like a dirty, smelly, effeminate hippie, but that if I clean up I can look like this guy and really make Him happy!

...and I want a new bike and a sled and a new headquarters...

So sad I have to throw him into the Lake of Fire and forget about him.
The picture will have to burned up too.

I look more like this than an apostle does like that

Jesus Christ to photo of Dave Pack, "Who's this dick head?"

Blog Comment Moderation Is On

I had to turn on comment moderation last night.  This blog got hit by what must be Dave Pack's boy toy.  Some of the stuff he wrote that he likes doing he wanted to do to Dave, and it was not fit to print.  The guy sure seems obsessed with sex!  He needs to get out of the closet and enjoy life. Some of his postings may have slipped through for a few minutes, so if anyone was offended, apologies.  When he wasn't spewing his sexual desires it was racist comments - British Israelism at its finest!. It is  a sad commentary on what Armstrongism does to some peoples minds.

Dave Pack: The Gold and Silver Are MINE! My god Says So!

Dave Pack has been particularly ticked that people are not jumping ship from the various groups to his and bringing their money with them.  That disturbs him more than their presence does.  His first priority is money.

To reinforce that mindset, Dave claims that Haggai 2:8 pertains to him.  Since he is his god's only true COG leader and therefore the rightful steward of all tithes and offerings, the money that COG members are giving to their own groups are technically his.  It's his the money that belongs to his god and therefore rightfully is his, since he is the only TRUE leader on earth today.

Haggai 2:8: “The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine, says the Lord of hosts.”
The Hebrew for “silver” by implication means “money.” “Gold” can also mean “precious metal.” This is an important message to God’s servants carrying out His end-time Work. God is saying that He controls (owns) vast financial resources and can provide them for His Work. In fact, He will do this in part simply because all of God’s tithes and offerings are going to one place. God is saying that He is going to redirect funds that are currently being stolen by leaders who will soon be removed from office. God will take care of the needs of His Church. Also realize that this message is to the remnant. Caught up much more deeply in the world, and in the everyday coveting going on there, they must be reminded that everything on Earth belongs to God. They must return to sacrificing for His Work as we all once did under Mr. Armstrong’s leadership.

Dave Pack Threatens Ministers Of The COG's: I Will Remove You From Your Leadership Offices!

Arrogant Dave is turning the heat on ministers and leaders of the 700 some COG's.  You will soon be trembling in your shoes at my awesomeness.  Repent and join with me now or be forever cast into outer darkness where you belong.

ATTENTION MINISTERS

A statement to all MINISTERS: God WILL reunite His people, and soon. Ministers for decades have been “scattering” them—and working “against” Christ (Matt. 12:30). Read what follows Matthew 12:30. Now comes a powerful word of caution to those men who at all fear God and want to remain in His ministry. Men who are known to have tried to thwart the active work of God’s Spirit to reunite His people need to know they have chosen to END THEIR MINISTRY! The government of God’s Church will make diligent inquiry with brethren now under your charge.
Most of you grew liberal in the 1970s—this was “strike one” in God’s sight. But you were forgiven by a loving and merciful God and given another chance. However, many of the same men grew far more liberal and heretical in the second “go-around” through the 90s, and all the way to the present—this was a very great “strike two” in God’s sight. But His plan is to forgive you AGAIN, upon repentance. If you fight His Purpose NOW—read “God’s People Back Together—SOON!”, and other recent announcements—the result will be “strike THREE,” and you will be OUT of the ministry by your own choosing. God’s duly appointed government will REMOVE you from office. You are STRONGLY counseled to at least remain NEUTRAL in the face of your headquarters asking or even demanding you to resist what “RCG is teaching”—when God’s Spirit in you should be making clear that what we are announcing is GOD’S teaching. Tell your flock you are “waiting to see,” and if circumstances so require, tell your headquarters that you are going to follow God not them when push comes to shove. Tell them you are “sitting this one out.” Do not trust that your current leaders will be able to save your ministry. They will NOT! Only you can do this.
Now aware of God’s awesome purpose, you should in fact desire to “get out front” of what He is doing in order to help the maximum number of people. Other ministers and deacons already have. In any event, if you are not strong enough to do this, do not permit yourself to be coerced or even threatened into a position where you are soon sorry—DESPERATELY sorry!—for your actions, much like Esau found himself when he “was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears” (Heb. 12:16-17). Esau could not turn back the hands of time on what he had done. Some mistakes “go too far.” You are warned not to repeat Esau’s mistake! Time in this age is almost gone. You stand at the crossroads of history, prophecy and DESTINY. Humble yourself in the eyes of God and He will exalt you in the near future beyond what you can now imagine. You will soon be serving more of God’s people—larger congregations. DO NOT BLOW A PRECIOUS CALLING!

Dave Pack Lie #4,768: The True Church Is About Ready To Face Intense Persecution

Dave has no idea what persecution is.  Above is Christian persecution. This is NOT something that Packism has ever experienced. Persecution does not mean not being able to buy Steuben Crystal.

  Fake martyr Dave needs a reality check -  Voice of the Martyrs.

Dave Packs persecution complex is coming to light again.  He knows that his silly boasting and dumb prophecies about three COG leaders being struck dead by the fall time are not going to happen.  He knows that his failures will bring about more mocking and ridicule he is preparing his members to face the persecution that he alone has brought upon the church.

Those coming to understand the truth of this prophecy are facing or likely will face a growing level of persecution. An analogy is helpful here. This persecution could now be seen as wind in your face. It will grow louder and may blow harder until it almost feels violent. But realize that it will be SHORTLIVED. The wind will suddenly turn 180 degrees and be at your back. It will be a wind that helps push the ENTIRE CHURCH forward to finish God’s Work—when everyone is working together in the Temple. Patiently endure! Do not worry about who else agrees with you. Many more soon will.

Also, be careful of saying, “I want all of us back together,” but then blow your opportunity when God provides the path. Recognize that Satan will do everything in his power to overthrow your understanding of Haggai. The devil can never defeat God, but he can defeat individuals who permit him. Do not be among them!

Dave wants you to know that his god is such a weak impotent little god that it could not explain what it was trying to get across as truth.  It has to use Dave as it's mouthpiece.  Dave has been given insight and wisdom to discern the truth of his impotent little god.

Finally, explained briefly in a previous part, recognize that God would necessarily have to send a man to explain the things of Haggai. Who else is even attempting this—any of it? Can you name even one person? SOMEONE had to do it. And God would not choose—or ever use—a man who appointed himself.

Make yourself focus on, digest and COME TO GRIPS with the prophecies in Haggai. Examine—and prosecute—any resistant thinking! Do not be slipshod in matters of such colossal importance to YOU!

Yes brethren, take some obscure book of the Bible and apply it to your self to make yourself look like something you are not.  Weak, impotent, little men, need to define themselves by scripture.  Their reputation with humans has been so deplorable that their only consolation seems to be with their god and its writings.  People mock and laugh at him, yet his god talks to him and tells him how to spend money.

Dave Pack Lie #4,055: Jesus Is Returning Only For RCG Members

Dave Pack has been a a roll with his Friday letter to the gullible.  In it he says Jesus Christ is only returning to the Restored Church of God.  Everyone  in all the other COG's are going to be left out in the cold.  Jesus Christ won't give a rats ass about them because they refused to come over to Dave's side.

The period described is obviously the Day of the Lord—when heaven and earth will be shaken, alongside all nations of Earth! This obviously is the time just before the Return of Jesus Christ, Who will be coming to His ONE House. This is why you better get over the idea that God’s people can be in MANY houses. Christ is not only returning to His one House, but He will be coming back to a House currently being neglected because, no matter their feelings or what leaders tell them, most today are OUTSIDE that House. Remember the preceding verses are recorded as being spoken on the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles. We might say, of course they are. Look at the Feast-related subject. The prophecy jumps forward a few years in time, speaking of earthquakes and the heavenly signs described in Revelation, because it is being said at the Feast of Tabernacles. I repeat: This cannot be a historical account, and you have just seen more proof. Haggai’s book is PROPHECY—no wonder it includes people who were away from God and His House for decades being refreshed on what that House is ultimately for—the place to which Jesus Christ returns! Verse 7 refers to Him returning to “fill God’s House with GLORY.” The rebellious, divided, disagreeing, competing, heresy-infested splinters of today—far from glorious—are also far from being ready to receive CHRIST’S glory.