Ron Weinland: You Members Are Too Stupid To Prove Anything Or Discover Truth On Your Own

Last week Weinerdude admits that his god did not inspire him to write anything to the members of his cult.  Today he is back with a letter to the sheeple that believe they need to follow Weinerdude's 57 "truths" in order to gain salvation.  In order to do that though, they are not to "prove" the 57 truths are correct but are to accept them as fact and to put them into practices as if they already are.  The membership are not to waste their time studying, proving, examining, or questioning the "truths."  Since Weinerdude's god reveled these "truths" they are deemed "true" already.  Because government is from the top down, "knowledge" comes from the top and you are not to question it.

Within the Body of Christ, truth is not revealed to individual members through personal study, insight, and/or intellect, no matter how much one might try to prove something true or false through their own ability. Such an idea, concept, or teaching is totally contrary to the truth of God, the working of His ministry, and the structure God has created within His Church – government.

What Paul was saying was that people are to prove – to establish the validity of God’s truths and ways – by putting them to work through living and exercising them in their life and thereby approving them as the only true way of life to live. When he says to “prove all things,” he is only speaking of “all” things that are given from God and not of living and trying all things that are possible in human life.

When a person seeks to "prove" something is true or false they become agents of Satan:

The twist that some have placed on the word “prove” is indeed sly, deceptive, insidious, and totally false. It is highly dangerous spiritually because of what such a concept actually teaches. It teaches that individuals have the ability within them to discern, judge, examine, and decide for themselves what is true and what is false. If that were true, we would not need God’s spirit to lead us into all truth. No one has such ability apart from God to discern or know such things. Such must be revealed spiritually to us by God. That is how God works in us to give us His truths. The idea that individuals have the ability within themselves to discern or learn what is true, apart from God revealing it, is the same lie Satan foisted upon the first two human beings. Satan seeks to sneak that false concept into the lives of all with whom God calls and works with. That is how he led a third of the angelic realm to follow him.

It is simply a lie to believe that anyone can come to the knowledge of the truth – of what is right or wrong – by human reasoning, intellect, study, or by any other human means. Nor can one “go back” and re-prove truth through their own intellect, reasoning, or study. They cannot re-prove what they never proved as true anyway. It was given directly from God and only received as a matter of faith.

All truth comes through Weinerdude or maybe Mrs. Weinerdude, on a good day.

That is the way God reveals all truth to us. It begins to be revealed to us from the beginning of our calling, and then God’s spirit continues to reveal more and more to us in order for us to continue building on what has been given before. So how does God reveal His truth and true ways of life to people? Is it done by personal revelation that is “directly” from God and straight to an individual? No, not unless one is a prophet or apostle. That is simply how God has structured His Church and how it is to function. It is how God works.

When a person starts to study, do research, or examine Weinerdude's utterances, they are essentially turning themselves over to Satan.  Once hey are in Satan's grasp their lives become more comfortable and peaceful.  Only the true believers live lives of turmoil and upheaval. Those that have left Weinerdude's cult are not living lives of comfort now that they have repudiated Weinerdude.

When someone begins to believe the lie that they can reason and study to know God’s truth then they quickly begin to lose what God freely gave them, since it is God who not only gives His truth to us, but it is God who sustains it in us through His spirit dwelling in us. Truly, the bottom line is a matter of knowing where God’s true Church is, and only God can reveal that single spiritual body to someone. That Church is the only means that God has given that enables spiritual growth through sermons, other recorded truth, and written material God and Christ inspire to be given to His people through His ministry. Without that direct source that God works through His Church and His ministry, one will begin to starve spiritually from lack of food that comes only in this manner.

Indeed, how quickly individuals can lose what God freely gave them once they choose to believe any lie and separate themselves from God’s Church. Individuals can and have gone quickly back to believing that the rock (Petra, Selah) is about a physical place of safety (protection) in Jordan, instead of God being our Rock of safety. Individuals have returned to believing that there are two eternally existing Gods, as they actually return to embrace a strong portion of the Catholic doctrine of the Trinity. And on and on it goes. Such is Satan’s pleasure. He and the demonic world cease to attack them, but instead make their life more comfortable in this physical world to which they have returned. Such individuals are no longer engaged in a spiritual battle to hold fast to what God had given them.

It is for such reasons that we should study the truths God has given us so that we can remain sharpened and strong in God’s word. This is simply a part of holding fast to what God has given already and not letting it slip away, but remembering it and thereby being more readily able to build upon it as God continues to freely give us more. We should seek to remember and hold fast to what we are given. That does indeed mean we are to “go back” and be reminded and strengthened in what God has given us. That is the correct context we should use if ever speaking of “going back,” but never in the context of proving things to ourselves apart from what God has given – 57 Truths!

Dating Online With The Philadelphia Church of God

Everyone knows that Philadelphia Church of God teens and young adults have slim pickings when it comes to dating or finding a partner.  Since Gerald has laid down such restrictive deviate laws regarding who church members can fellowship with finding good dates is hard.

The church now is giving guidelines on how to date online:

Singles, you are hereby challenged to use these tools to inject life into your dating! Here are some ideas we have accumulated to help you be creative with your online dating. Feel free to add more ideas in the comments below.

• On video chat, you could have a meal together. –Joel Hilliker

• Cook a new recipe together. –Brenda

• Everyone loves food. Share recipes. It crosses cultural lines as well. –Theodore

• Each read a book beforehand and talk about it online. –Mr. Hilliker

• Go through the articles or videos on the Trumpet.com (since you’re online anyway) and discuss them. After some discussion, post your thoughts online or even continue the discussion in our comments section. It is like hitting two birds in one stone—a date activity and more social media points for theTrumpet. –Reniel

• Play a game of chess. –Mr. Hilliker

• You could play online board games together, like chess or checkers. –Jordanya

• You could do Scattergories; you could easily do that on both sides: have a timer going and then exchange answers. You could play Pictionary or something if you had a group date. That would be pretty easy because you could just show your picture to the camera. –Danielle

• A game I would always play with my nieces and nephews: One person draws something, just a quick line or something, and then the other person draws another one and eventually you complete a picture of some kind. It’s very funny sometimes to see what actually turns out. –David

• Could you make an online date that was built around serving? That’s a good challenge. –Mr. Hilliker

• Call a senior together. –Jordanya

• You could always have a group chat, with video as well. So it’s not just two people, but you have a group as well. –Gabrielle

• Try speaking in a foreign language. –Albert

• Try to FaceTime at tourist attraction. –George

• Share photographs. –Tim

• You could share funny family pictures with each other. –Grant

• Go online on your smartphone and take a walk. It would be a nice way to introduce your country/region to your date.

• Post pictures of points of interest where you live, then talk about them. –Theodore

PCG just sounds like the most exciting Church of God ever!  Its no wonder Davey Pack feels like such a fool all the time.
At least they did not tell them to dress in Sabbath wear to chat.

Living Church of God Hates Independence - Except When It Benefits Them

Roger Meyer from the Living Church of God does not like that people seek independence.

He writes:

July 4 is the day the United States celebrates its independence. Many nations throughout history have fought for their independence, and have set aside days to mark its attainment. Is independence and self-rule the real answer to mankind’s search for peace and happiness?

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The desire to be independent—“on our own” and free from “other people telling us what to do”—is in all of us. The toddler cries, “I want to do it myself!” The teenager cannot wait to be on his own, free from parental authority.

Rod Meredith "wanted to do it by himself" when he formed the Global Church of God and then when he got smacked down for his self righteous attitude he sought Independence by jumping ship to Living Church of God.

A friend once told me that he had shared these independent sentiments as a teen. “So,” he said with a wry grin, “I joined the army!”  He found that there is nothing like a U.S. Army sergeant to let you know that he considers it his business to tell you what to do and when to do it. He will also tell you—again and again—that your status is less than that of a lowly fly larva!

That is the state of affairs that true followers of Armstrongism look to inflict upon the "unconverted" masses in their world tomorrow.  They will rule with rods of iron and fists of fury over the lowly fly larva underneath them.

Throughout history, mankind has declared its independence, time and again. In the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve made the mistake of believing the serpent’s lie that they could be wise, make their own decisions and chart their own course—that they did not need God to tell them what to do.

Rod Meredith declared his independence from HWA when he went into rebellious melt down that caused him to be exiled to Hawaii for a year.  Then he went into rebellion in Tuscon when he lied about Leona McNair on stage in front of close to 800 ministers. He then got sued for it and LOST while letting the WCG pay his attorney fees.  Then after the case was settled and all monies paid out he sought independence and jumped to form Global Church of God.

The ancient Israelites, having grown into a nation, were at first governed by human judges guided by God. But they decided to declare their independence, and told Samuel, “Look, you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now make us a king to judge us like all the nations” (1 Samuel 8:4-5). God told Samuel to give the people what they wanted, for they had rejected Him from reigning over them (v. 7).

God gave the people of Global and Living Church of God the leader they clamored for.  They preferred Spanky over Jesus and grace.

Jesus’ well-known parable of the minas (or pounds) illustrates mankind’s stubborn streak of independence. A nobleman went into a far country to receive a kingdom. Before his departure, he gave his ten servants each a mina. “But his citizens hated him, and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We will not have this man to reign over us’” (Luke 19:14). The rejected man refers to Jesus Christ, who will return as the conquering King of kings to rule over all nations of the earth.

LCG's god is a god of war, wrath and damnation.  It wants to see this god come and destroy 2/3rds of humanity.  They can't stand the God who stoops down to pick up the beaten down, the lowly, the outcasts, the disenfranchised.  LCG prefers their god to leave these scum in the mud because whatever caused them to be there in the first place was their fault.

One might expect that when Christ returns to the earth and reveals Himself to mankind, that He would be welcomed with open arms and cries of “Hallelujah!” Sadly, that will not be the case. In fact, mankind will battle Christ with all of the power it can muster. “And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His Army” (Revelation 19). And in Psalm 2:2-3: “The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying, ‘Let us break their bonds in pieces and cast away their cords from us.’” 

Independent mankind does not want anybody—including Almighty God—telling it what to do. Thankfully, as both of these accounts reveal, all the puny human efforts to fight Christ will be dashed to pieces. Every knee will bow to Christ as the King of the earth. All of mankind will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (Philippians 2:9-11).

Roger Meyer and Rod Meredith both refused to let anyone tell them what to do.  They left WCG to form their own splinter cult called Global Church of God.  Then when they did not get their way threw a temper tantrum, financially bled dry Global, in another rebellious action of independence to the Living Church of God - organized and partially funded by a child molester from Pasadena.

Finally, under the rule of the Kingdom of God, human beings will finally learn to trust in, rely on and depend upon Jesus Christ and God the Father. Mankind will humbly submit to God’s rule and finally, at long last, find the true happiness it has been seeking—but has never been able to find.

It's all about submission in Armstrongism.  You must submit to their god, to Rod, to the ministry, and to Herbert's memory.

Is it any wonder that LCG hates independence so much when they are losing members along with the rest of the COG's to independent thinkers!

Happy 4th!

Gerald Flurry Destroying All CD's Sent To Congregations and Tells Members That Offerings Will Be Required On All 8 Days Of Feast

Gerald Flurry seems to be going into melt down mode.  Kind of like Davey pack is doing.  Six Pack knows that this idiotic rantings can cause the PCG great harm if this words make it out to the press. 

Six-Pack is recalling all sermon CD's and destroying them.  Once they are played in church they are to be immediately handed over to the Pastor who then makes sure it gets back to HQ.

Bob Thiel had this letter on his blog that he says was sent to him:

Did you know that Flurry made a announcement in The Church that no one could have  any children any more .As He said it’s time to go, any moment, and He wants all the people to tell  all of their familys… that are in some of what He calls “Off Shoots” He wants them all back..?

…a  CD  just was distributed in all Churches, of the [PCG] “of course.”.. They are to tell ALL , The family members and “all others” that left and in “THE OFF SHOOTS”.  “That it is time” for all to return to “The True Church”, as it’s time to go very soon now.. They are not allowed to have anymore children, if they do it’s possible they might be put out and unable to go to the Place of Saftey… This is what I heard,  one could never have the proof as He has all the CD’s  destroyed after hearing them..  [ Look on Exit and Support ].. for more details.. Flurry, forbids any “CD”S going out”.. If he finds some one tell anyone anything “There marked”…

I also hear that He told His congregation that they are expected to have “offerings” “every day” at The Feast.. INSTEAD OF THE FIRST AND LAST DAY.. Can’t you just imagine what a hard ship it would be, for people that have big familys, that can barely afford to go in the first place..  He has told every one on the out side.. That THE TEMPLE is mostly payed for and they are doing very well.. But in secret He is begging the members for more money saying the work is really down..  There are also mention of more building being built.. For what I wonder…?… He has only a few students there..  also TURGEN , is talking about buying Him a jet.. [no anouncement was made ] There just throwing around the idea just now..  If the end is near, why is He still building..?.. I thought MR. Armstrong said get the people ready., not get rid of them ..as He is doing. He will put you out for the slightest thing… …..He is putting no money into getting any work out..  He is only building on at His compound.. and putting it on the backs of those poor people that can barely make it now….With all Obama has done  no one can afford such luxury as Flurry expects…

PCG Trinidad: Members Drop to 19 While HQ Demands More Money

Gerald Flurry and crew have really done a number on the Trinidad congregation.  With their abusive minister Seebran wrecking havoc the members have been leaving.   Many are leaving over the constant demands by Flurry for  more money.  They don't understand how of they need more money that Flurry claims to have paid off Armstrong Auditorium.

Samuel Seebran is trying to convince remaining members that everything is working out according to "God's Plan." He is reassuring them that all is well and the focus is being placed on "God's House" being [supposedly] paid off and that new projects are on stream as the "Work" intensifies. (More projects means financial exploitation for existing members.) But some are questioning how "God's House" can be paid off because all the time HQ was stating that income was down and they were lagging behind in loan payments. [See June 4, 2013 PCG letters for more on this.] Was this gimmick used to solicit more money from members and lies were being used from the podium to deceive and extort more money to enrich themselves? There is no financial accountability and transparency in the PCG. Members have to trust and believe the ministry ("ministers cannot lie"). Members are also being told not to believe everything they hear and to stay away from the networks (i. e., ESN) that are against the PCG because "Satan is using them to attack and destroy the Church" and that members are "being tested." All this a cunning ploy to keep members ignorant and in the dark as Gerald Flurry's financial empire falls apart. --Resigned member (Trinidad)

One rumor floating around is that Wayne Turgeon is trying to solicit funds to by Six Pack his own jet.  Ever since Wayne bought his way into Flurry's inner circle he has been walking all over people in order to impress Flurry.  He has left a trail of destruction in his wake. With the world about to end and members told to stop having kids, they are still spending money like it grew out ion the back fields of the compound.   They are dropping between $30,000 to $100,000+ for each one of their concerts in their mini-me auditorium.  That is money that members struggle to send in as Flurry demands more and more from them.

If these dumb idiots think they are about to flee they had better start watching the news in Egypt and elsewhere.  No Arab government will allow a bunch of whacked-out pseudo-christians come barreling into Petra and take over it.

Living Church of God: You MUST Respect The Church. We Have The Power to Forgive Or Retain Your Sins

I find the intro to this to be kind of strange for a COG video.  At first I thought it was a spoof, but what they are doing is mocking Christians.  LCG knows all and the rest of Christianity are idiots and followers of Satan's "jesus"

I was just send this link for an LCG video sermon on why you MUST respect the church and that the ministry has the authority to speak on behalf of Jesus Christ concerning the forgiveness or retention of your sins.  Without the Church you cannot know God.  We need the church to tell us who the "true" Christ was.  The Christians of the world do not know anything about Christ. 

Retention?  Retention?  That word alone shows LCG is Biblically ignorant.

Over one hour of blabbering that could have been wrapped up in 20 minutes.