Friday, October 11, 2013

David C Pack: Here Are The Three Phases of Destruction That Will Happen To ALL of the Splinter Groups




Stage 1:


Previous announcements have outlined the destruction that God will bring on the splinter “houses.” We originally thought He would desolate the “houses” in two phases. It is now clear from Haggai—and this will be impossible to misunderstand when you see it—that there are three phases of destruction coming that are so complete they leave nothing remaining.

Referenced earlier, the first phase of punishment has been occurring for the last 21 years and is described in Haggai 1:6: “You have sown much, and bring in little; you eat, but you have not enough; you drink, but you are not filled with drink; you clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earns wages earns wages to put it into a bag with holes.”

Haggai 2:16 is God recounting the same thing to the remnant—that they never got the expected return on investment they hoped for over more than two decades: “Since those days were, when one came to an heap of twenty measures, there were but ten: when one came to the pressfat for to draw out fifty vessels out of the press, there were but twenty.” See the parallel!

Apparently Dave's stupid angry god has been punishing the true church for the last 1,900 years, because they have NEVER gotten it right!
Haggai 1:6 describes God’s long ongoing punishment on His people due to their actions. When brethren and ministers began forming their own houses, God cut them off from both His Holy Spirit and His blessings. Their “works” never produced the expected return on investment because they were cut off from these things. Verse 10 adds “Therefore the heaven over you is stayed from dew [blessings], and the earth is stayed from her fruit [of the Holy Spirit].”
 Dave is still pissed that the ministers in all the various COG's refuse to follow him.

This next phase is God intensifying His punishment—turning up the heat—in the face of the group’s continuing resistance to returning to His Church. What He brings to bear is SERIOUS. (We will see in a moment how serious.) Despite God bringing awful punishment on their houses, these ministers still did not repent and “turn to” God. Haggai 2:17 forms an instructive look-back to ministers who grew weak and confused for decades. God requires them to come to grips with how their congregations and organizations fell into the horrible mess that resulted. His warning is so that history will not repeat itself. Much is at stake for these ministers in what is everyone’s last chance.

This is everyone's LAST chance?  Really?  How incredibly stupid that is. Dave's god is too impotent to do such a thing.

Mildew and storms will soon start devastating the various COG's:

God says in effect that He will bring to nothing the occupation, transactions, products and business of these “houses.” This describes the second phase of punishment, when He begins breaking things up in the splinters with what could be thought of as “plagues.” (Think of the period of parallel with actions God had to use to bring Israel out of ancient Egypt.) Little things start going wrong!
—contracts, actions, transactions, business, decisions, etc.—as God smites the remnant’s “labors” with what He calls blasting, mildew (fear) and hail. At some point in the future, thousands of brethren will begin wondering, “What is going on? What is wrong?”

Dave thinks his god is essentially going to scare the shit out of COG members:

God will send FEAR into these groups in an attempt to WAKE THEM UP. The kinds of things God will do will leave people pale with fear. GET THIS because conditions will eventually grow worse, then much worse. Think of it through the following analogy. God’s Church will be on an elevator going up, while the splinters are passing us on one going down.

Then Dave's god will have one final fit of fury directed at the splinters:

The word for “labor” here is different from the word for “labors” in Haggai 2:17. God is very careful with the words He uses. He tells us “every” one is “pure” (Prov. 30:5) and “purified seven times” (Psa. 12:6). “Labor” is a stronger word in Haggai 1:11, and means “toil, your work, produce, property, your business, labor.” In other words, God desolates EVERYTHING—not just actions, transactions or little deeds. Haggai 1:11 is God’s third wave of punishment on the splinters. This is when God destroys EVERY element of the splinters. No wonder the people in verse 12 fear before God. 


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David C Pack: The Great Church Reunification Can Be Accomplished Cheaper At Passover Than The Feast Time

We wrestled for months over our August 31 date.

I guess even with the company of 16 great accomplished theologians like Dave had in his presence they still could not come up with the right date.  So why believe them now?

It all boils down to money.  The great reunification will not need to happen where church members will be wasting Dave's money on hotel rooms for a feast site.  Now they can join Dave and turn that money over to him.  Slick move Dave!

We can conclude that the Haggai prophecy was always speaking of a SPRING event, NOT one in the fall of the year—the period preceding Passover, NOT the one preceding the Fall Holy Days and the Feast of Tabernacles. And also ask: how much more sense does it make that the Church will be reunited a little before the easier-to-assemble-together time of Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread versus reunification just two-and-a-half weeks before going to completely different Feast sites for eight days when people would have long before made plans and given deposits to attend somewhere else? We wrestled at our Headquarters for months with how this would work, including the Church being reunited on a Friday and then having to turn around and keep the Sabbath together in hundreds of new places just one day later. We knew God would defeat the confusion, but we recognized that additional miracles would have to happen in the wake of the great ones that brought His people back together for this to occur smoothly.

David C Pack: COG Members Will Have A Double Self Examination Prior To Passover - For Their Sins and Whether They Should Join My Church




Israel left Egypt on the first Holy Day after the Night to Be Much Observed. Haggai’s name (“My [God’s] Feast”) now takes on more meaning as relating to the spring Holy Day season—NOT the Feast of Tabernacles, as we previously thought. The parallel of Israel’s departure from ancient Egypt in spring is the THIRD proof of God’s Plan for a springtime fulfillment.

The FOURTH proof that God has the spring in mind is that twice in Haggai He commands His people to “Consider your ways.” This perfectly parallels the annual period of self-examination that every Christian is to carry out prior to Passover. It makes complete sense that God would be telling His people to “consider” their lives and conduct during the time leading up to Passover. Different from physical Israel leaving literal Egypt on the first day of Unleavened Bread, it appears that God’s people (spiritual Israel) may leave spiritual Egypt (the splinters, who are part of the Egypt of this world) before the Passover by some short period. We will learn at the time of fulfillment the exact number of days before Passover that God has in mind.

David C Pack; Will I Be Betrayed Like Jesus For 30 Pieces of Silver?


The chief narcissist writes:

The seventh and final date that God lists is found in Zechariah 7:1—and is about 21 months later, nine months into Darius’ fourth year of reign. It spans the rest of the book through Christ’s Coming and into the Millennium. Of course, these eight amazing prophetic chapters contain the crucial chapter 11 that speaks so powerfully to how God plans to reunify His flock. A SECOND proof (or indicator) that the prophecy is speaking in a springtime context is that the betrayal of Christ for 30 pieces of silver is found smack in the middle of chapter 11. Not a huge point of and by itself, verses 12-13 of Zechariah 11 certainly fit a time just before the Passover—when Judas betrayed Christ. I do not know if any kind of modern betrayal within God’s Church will form a parallel. No one could. We will see.

David C Pack: Will The Great COG Reunification Happen On April 1?


Dave writes:

The next four dates are all mentioned in Haggai, and are according to the civil Persian calendar based on Darius’ reign. The reader will have to recall all that has been explained about the crucial meanings of each of these dates. For now, we are merely clarifying when they would be in our calendar—the general time of year that God had in mind.

Haggai 1:1 records the third overall date—the first day of the sixth month. This would be early March our time.

The fourth date is in Haggai 1:15—the 24th day of the sixth month. It describes the people coming to work in God’s House. Again, this would be about April 1 in our calendar.

The fifth date is in Haggai 2:1—the 21st day of the seventh month—and would be late in April. We originally thought this was the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles, but it would be more like right after Passover.

The sixth date is in Haggai 2:10—the 24th day of the ninth month—and continues through Haggai 2. This would be the equivalent of late July.

How convenient.  The great reunification is an April Fool's joke!

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David C Pack:  I was such a stupid idiot to assume the date was late summer/early fall.


The Jews began building Zerubbabel’s Temple one-and-a-half years into Darius’ reign, in the spring of 519 BC on the 24th day of the sixth month—about April 1 in our calendar. Further proof is that EVERY biblical and historical source states that it took four years to build this Temple. No one disputes this. ALL these sources recognize that the work of building was completed in early March 515 BC—or what would be five-and-a-half years into Darius’ reign. This is important. Notice what the book of Ezra records: “The elders of the Jews builded, and they prospered through the prophesying of Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the son of Iddo. And they builded, and finished it [the temple], according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia. And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king” (6:14-15). The third of Adar would generally correspond with our early March.

This means the temple in Haggai 1:1 is referencing an event in the spring of the year, not late summer or fall. This is the FIRST proof that the prophecy applies to the spring, not the fall. This does not mean we know the exact timing of the prophecy’s fulfillment—either the exact day (or the year) in the spring. But there are THREE more powerful proofs/indicators that the prophecy is fulfilled in the spring not the fall. These immediately “sprang out of the woodwork” the moment we realized the season that God had in mind to fulfill Haggai—PRE-PASSOVER.