Herbert Armstrong has been brought back from the dead and has been reanimated to speak

Stephen Gildbreath runs one of the most pathetic Church of God "ministries" out there in the internet.

He puts up HWA on his "screen" as if HWA was actually preaching in his studio living room.  Gilbreth has even animated Herb to move his mouth and head in order to make you feel more inspired.  You really should listen to at least the first10 minutes of Herb's bombastic rant.  Screaming and shouting at the DUMB brethren who are ignorant morons.

Gilbreath self-appointed himself as a minister just like Bob Amos Thiel did.  Both "preach" equally bad; who after they finish, you have to stop and wonder what the hell did I just listen to? Both "preach" on topics that have no relevance to human kind.

Deceitful COG Leader Dares To Lecture Members On Being Deceived

Bob and Dagon

Only in a Church of God will you find a self-appointed deceitful leader dare to claim church members can be deceived.  Of course they are being deceived by everyone but himself.

This comes from a man who is so deceived that he takes a simple prayer of blessing by Gaylyn Bonjour as an apostolic ordination prayer that sets him apart as the ONLY true church leader on the face of the earth today. Where would the church be without Prophet/Apostle Bob Amos Thiel in its midst?????

Prophet Amos Thiel has this to say about deception in the church which he ironically titles: Self Deception Can Be Quit Costly

Jesus taught that Satan was a liar and the father of lies:

44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it (John 8:44)

Of course, Satan takes advantage of deception and encourages humans to deceive themselves. Recall what happened to Eve:

14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. (1 Timothy 2:14)
6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. (Genesis 3:6-7)

But what about Christians? Can Christians fall victim to self-deception?

Jesus warned that most Christians in the end times would be deceived:

14 “And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write,‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God: 15 “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17 Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’ — and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked — 18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. (Revelation 3:14-19)

Although most Laodiceans do not believe that they are deceiving themselves, Jesus said that they were. Jesus said that Laodicean Christians needed to repent–they need to change. 

In addition to doctrine and how they lead their lives, there are serious prophetic deceptions that the Laodiceans have fallen for. A list of 30 prophetic deceptions that various Laodiceans believe is in the article The Laodicean Church Era. Believing several of these will insure that Laodiceans will not realize that the Great Tribulation is here until it is to late for most to flee (cf. Revelation 12:14-17). 

Self-deception is common. Try not to fall for it. The word of God is truth (John 17:17), hopefully you will believe it enough so that you will resist Satanically-encouraged self-deception (cf. James 4:7).

In addition to the church era malarkey, Amos Thiel is the king of lies and deception in the church right now.  At least Flurry and Pack just put themselves in their positions, not through someone  blessing them with a prayer that was NEVER meant what Amos Thiel claims.

Bob Thiel has a long string of deceiving utterances since his self-appointment as God's most highly favored.

He tacks on his title the name of "Dr."  Most never bother to check that he got his "Dr." title from an pseudo-university in India.  He also trots forward that he took classes at Fuller Seminary and other places as to give the impression he graduated from these institutions.

Church of God Perspective calls him out on that, as has Gavin Rumney and many others.

Take his “doctor” title. Doctor of what? If I came to you and said I was a doctor and gave medical advice, wouldn’t you assume by my actions I was a doctor of medicine? Likewise, if I went around putting “Dr” on my books, and the books were on religion, would you not assume my doctorate was in theology? And, if those things turned out not to be true, wouldn’t you believe I was a fraud? And, rightly so! [Update: Thiel now claims to have a ThD; see “Doctor” Thiel Responds] 

Buried deep within his website is the admission that “I have studied graduate level Early Church History from Fuller Theological Seminary and other schools in and out of the USA, and after a lot of writing, was granted a foreign Th.D. in early Christianity. A doctor of philosophy (Ph.D.) degree was earned from the Union Institute and University (1993) where I studied various biological sciences and research methodologies.”Bob Thiel is still a liar and false prophet 

Church of God Perspective has also taken lying Bob "Amos" Thiel to task over his deceitfulness:

Bob Thiel has yet to deliver a real message to anyone, except supposedly about himself. Obviously, this is a narcissistic view of how God speaks to His people. Bob Thiel has yet to speak a message, declare it a message from God and then have it come to pass! 

Here are the “Four Tests” COGWA wrote about with my rebuttal to COGWriter Bob Thiel’s self-aggrandizing article: 

1. Does the conduct of the prophet reflect godly character? 

Absolutely not! COGWriter Bob Thiel’s arrogance in rebelling against his former organization (after praising them so long in public, BTW) is reminiscent of Satan’s rebellion against God. His finger-pointing and judgmentalism towards others proves he is the quintessential Laodicean (the people judge — others, that is). 

2. Do the predictions of the prophet come true? 

What predictions? All Thiel does is rehash a mix of biblical prophecies intermingled with pagan prophecies to create an abomination of predictions. Yet, where is the “thus saith the Lord…”? To be a prophet, you have to prophesy, and he has yet to do so. 

3. Are the words of the prophet consistent with Scripture? 

No. His organization, as well as his parent group LCG, add all sorts of traditions of men to their beliefs, including but not exhaustively forms of government (idolatry of men), criticisms of observing the anniversary of one’s birth, laxity on the sanctity of marriage, church eras, and more. 

Worse, he includes many pagan and un-Christian prophecies as part of his message. A true prophet of God would not need to do this to the extent he engages in it. 

Essentially, his emphasis upon being a “Philadelphian remnant”, a self-contradiction that a school child can see, means he is preaching a different message, a different gospel, than the NT does. 

4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit [such as an attitude of judgmentalism], which ye have not received, or another gospel [such as the message of being “Philadelphian” rather than a message of what Christ will do when He returns], which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
…
12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

~ 2Co 11:4,12-15

4. Do the people benefit spiritually from the prophet’s ministry? 

No. The only benefit is Bob Thiel’s enrichment and supposed elevation of status. The people he leads will be lead into the wilderness of false teaching and idolatry that characterizes so many that Satan has grabbed ahold of before they could see the truth (Cf. Lk 8:5, 11-12). 

Simply put, too many church organizations take on titles of prophet, apostle and even sillier terms jerked out of context from the Bible in order to entice you and I and anyone else who will listen to follow them rather than God.

Bob Amos has sadly fallen for the exact same self deception that infects Gerald Flurry, Rod Meredith,  Dave Pack, Vic Kubik and all the other mini-wanna-be's that have set themselves up as power leaders.  Every single one of them lie to the brethren, preach false heresy and utter idiotic prophecies and warnings.  Not a single one of them even attempts to be a servant that stoops down to wash the feet of their members.  None of them have any humility.  Arrogance and self-aggrandizement is the order for the day.

Living Church of God Uses World Vision Canada In Order To Make Itself Look Christian

Living Church of God is trying to use the name of a prominent Christian charitable organization as an attempt to legitimize its self as a Christian church.  For decades Meredith and the church has mocked "worldly" Christians as "so-called" and fake Christians.  Yet when the COG wants to make its self look legitimate, they will readily use other Christians to their advantage.

The question lies in why did not the facilities manager at World Vision check out the organization renting their space?  Just because it has the name "God" in its title does not make a legitimate Christian organization.  LCG's nonChristian behavior over the last couple of decades proves that.

March 28, 2016
Since membership is in decline in the HWA offshoots, I believe they are getting more desperate. World Vision (Canada) is allowing Living Church of God (Roderick Meredith) to use its headquarters for LCG's upcoming seminar. "Tomorrow's World" (produced by Living Church of God) will conduct their seminar on Saturday May 16th. Just think of those who will attend this seminar, thinking they are hearing Biblical truths, since this seminar is at World Vision.  Exit and Support

Another writer comments:

March 29, 2016
The previous letter is definitely right! LCG is hiding behind a legitimate religious organization. They will not admit it is an Armstrong cult. And unfortunately, there are Biblical illiterates who will think they are hearing "new truth." I will warn about this on my Facebook page, and it should reach quite a few, so I can give them a heads up on this. That was an HWA tactic from the get go! --Former member of WCG 

This is sure to send false prophet Bob Amos Thiel into a fit that LCG is cavorting with "so-called" Christians.

America's Fate and Hope Lie Squarely in the Hands of the Two Witless Witnesses: Ron and Laura Weinland

The boozy witnesses

Relax everyone!  Our savior are in our midst.  Thanks to that amazing ministry of the recently released felon Ron Weinland and his money laundering wife Laura  America's salvation rests in their hands.

God has now placed the main hope of the United States squarely in the hands of His two witnesses who alone are given the power to help deliver them. The extent of destruction that each of the trumpet blasts and thunders can inflict upon her depends solely on the extent that she will humble herself and listen to God’s two witnesses. If she will not listen, she will not only suffer from great destruction inflicted by a powerful military strike against her, but catastrophic events from natural disasters and plagues can have just as massive of an impact. These actually have the ability to become far more destructive than the weapons that will be used against her. It all depends on her response toward God and those whom He has sent to them. The fate of the people of the United States rests fully in their own hands and whether they can be humbled quickly or not.  Chapter 6, Part 3

Dingy Ron and his equally dingy wife are our new saviors.

Dave Pack can't help us.  He can't even gather tens of thousands of COG members to jump over to his group, so why would we ever believe him? Gerald Flurry won't help, between paying for operetta's about sex and his grand-kid's Irish dance lessons, he cant afford to help us.  And Rod Meredith is so preoccupied by gay sex that he can't help.  Bob Amos Thiel is a fraud, so there is no help coning from him.  Herbert is dead, so that help is long gone...though he may be resurrected to come back and whip the church and the country into shape.  All of this epic failure only leaves two ideal people. Ron and Laura Weinland, our saviors.

But how much faith can we put in felon Ron Weiland?  Every single prophecy he has ever uttered has been a complete and well documented failure. Ron is a liar and Laura is a liar.

The prophecy schtick that the ministers of Armstrongism trot forth day by day is a failure also.  Hundreds and hundreds of uttered and worsen properties have failed.  Not one thing they have said has been true.

Why Are Church of God Members Treated Like Adolescents?

There was an interesting comment on a Facebook page the other day about Church of God members and how they are dull to be around and how sabbath keepers are the biggest bores.

In another discussion, someone brought up the fact that most COG members have an adolescent theology.  They need to be told what to believe, how to act, and who they are to associate with.  Free thinking is NOT a hallmark of the Church of God.

Just look at the latest hysteria over Easter, April Fools Day, Halloween, Christmas, Purim and other days that send some COG leaders into fits of hysteria.  They trot out the same old silliness that Herbert Armstrong and others taught 60-70 years ago. Viewpoints dug up out of obscure books, poorly researched, and never "fact-checked" by church leaders.  Prank someone on April 1st and you are part of the synagogue of Satan.  Bob Amos Thiel can't stand April Fools Day, so he must really have been pushed over the edge to know that the younger staff at LCG HQ were pulling jokes on each other on April 1. How dare people have fun!

That adolescent mentality carries over into the latest issue of Bob Amos Thiel's rag that claims to restore the "truth once delivered."  It the latest issue he has to tell his very few members how they are to dress.  These are adults, mostly in the 50-70 years of age range and mostly black African's.  All people who know how to dress, yet apparently too stupid to know how to in Amos's sight.

Amos Thiel writes:

As far as dress for church services goes, basically, the historical Philadelphia era view has been that since we are to be God’s ambassadors and a royal priesthood, that the way one would dress as such is appropriate. This has had side benefits as well. Historically, this helped the church to be able to rent places for meetings as well as for the Feast of Tabernacles as communities feel better about those who dress in a more professional-appearing manner. 

While the Continuing Church of God (CCOG) does not mandate suits and ties, that is the normal attire for those males who attend the Feast of Tabernacles or other services in Western societies. Women normally wear skirts or dresses, and of course should not be wearing ones that are excessively short, or otherwise be dressed immodestly (1 Timothy 2:9). Immodest clothing is clothing that tends to be sexually provocative (such as being too sheer, too tight, or not covering enough skin) or intended as an excessive display of wealth (like certain outrageously-priced custom-designer items or excessive jewellery). The Bible, in Deuteronomy 22:5, also forbids what is known as ‘cross- dressing.’ 

Again, we do not mandate a suit and tie for males in CCOG, but we do believe that such dress in certain Western cultures is consistent with the scriptures that I have quoted here.

Let it also be stated that some people WANT to look poor and unkempt. Notice also the following: 

18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19 and not holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments, grows with the increase that is from God. (Colossians 2:18-19)

While no one in the CCOG could be a true member if they worship angels/demons, people also need to guard against false humility.

As far as dress goes, basically we expect people wear clean clothes (not improperly sheer or tight) and dress nicely, though not more nicely than they can reasonably afford. If you are doing that, you meet what the Bible teaches (though I would add that most can afford to buy used ties, which is part of Western culture). 

Church of God members have never been given credit that they know how to think, act, and dress.  Someone mightier than they has always felt the need to tell them what to do and they do it, like adolescents.

Even the basic theology of most church members extends no further than adolescent theology.  They rely solely upon booklets, articles and sermons to get their theology from.  If the booklet or correspondence course said it, it HAS to be true. The church leaders and ministry are inspired directly by God and it is the only "truth."  Just look at the hysteria that Rod Meredith and Richard Ames gets into when LCG Members what to have Bible studies in their homes with friends.

The problem is that almost all Church of God leaders have a theology that is adolescent in belief.  They got their theological base from someone who had it passed down to them and which ultimately came from a guy who sat in a public library for six months while not supporting his family.  An entire belief system is built around books from a public library that was filled with tomes from the late 1880s.  It's a well established fact now that Herbert Armstrong was theologically bankrupt in his understanding.  While many have been able to disprove his theology with a minimum of research, most COG members still do not do that.  It's not right to question the leader because in doing so you are questioning God. Just as an adolescent isn't supposed to question their parents, COG members are not to question their leaders.

Why Does The Church of God Ignore Amos, Who Is In Our Midst?

The one thing that Armstrongism was able to do rather efficiently was give space for a myriad of men (and a couple of women) room to take on Old Testament personalities.  Over the decades we have seen men declare themselves Abraham, David, Joshua, Elijah, Habakkuk, and the Two Witnesses. Not once did they ever try to emulate Jesus Christ.

Prophets and sages galore have run off at the mouth over the decades with one failed prophecy after another. From Herbert Armstrong to Gerald Waterhouse; Rod Meredith to Dave Pack; Gerald Flurry to Richard Ames, very single thing these men have predicted has failed to come to pass.  One lie after another.

Now we are blessed with Amos in our midst.  Though this false prophet doesn't come out and directly say he is Amos, he implies it.  This lying false prophet has a unique way of manipulating his readers into believing he is talk about himself even though he never directly claims he is.  This lying false prophet is Bob Thiel, or Amos if you want to call him that.

The doubly cursed agent of deception writes:

Amos was a prophet of God, but will you pay attention to the message?

Here is some information about him from Wikipedia: 

Amos, an older contemporary of Hosea and Isaiah,[1] was active c. 750 BC during the reign of Jeroboam II,[1] (786–746 BC) making the Book of Amos the first biblical prophetic book written. Amos lived in the kingdom of Judah but preached in the northern kingdom of Israel. (Book of Amos. viewed 02/22/2014)

Before becoming a prophet, Amos was a sheep herder and a sycamore fig farmer. Amos’ prior professions and his claim “I am not a prophet nor a son of a prophet” (7:14) indicate that Amos was not from the school of prophets, which Amos claims makes him a true prophet (7:14). His prophetic career began in 750 BCE out of the town of Tekoa, in Judah, south of Jerusalem. (Amos the Prophet, viewed 02/22/2014)

It is interesting that he had to tell people that one becomes a true prophet in a manner that most did not expect. The Apostle Paul attempted to defend his apostleship that type of way (2 Corinthians 11:5, 22-29)–and that was to people who were supposedly in the Church of God.

So just who is the wanna-be Amos being talked about here?  Who is the only true prophet today that the people do not expect to be?  What group of people ignore this modern day Amos?  Who ridicule and revile him? Its the brethren's fault, as usual. Church of God members and ex-members.

No one expected Bob Thiel to be "double blessed."  No one expected him to stab Rod Meredith in the back, but he did.  Bob Thiel is the man of the unexpected.

Bob Amos Thiel continues:

One of the messages that Amos proclaimed is that the time would come when people would not be able to find the words of God: 

11 “Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord God,
“That I will send a famine on the land,
Not a famine of bread,
Nor a thirst for water,
But of hearing the words of the Lord.
12 They shall wander from sea to sea,
And from north to east;
They shall run to and fro, seeking the word of the Lord,
But shall not find it. (Amos 8:11-12)

I believe that the above warning is a reference to a coming internet censorship. And in the Continuing Church of God, we have already experienced some of this (see Letter to the Brethren: January 14, 2016).

What so-called "persecution" has the lying prophet received?  YouTube took down one of his malignant videos.  Because of that extreme persecution has hit the Church of God.  The end is truly here!  Brethren wake up!!!!!

Bob Amos Thiel then finishes with this:

Amos is giving a warning to those called by Jacob’s name (which was also Israel), whom according to Jacob himself, would seem to be a reference to the descendants of Ephraim and Manasseh (Genesis 48:16). In modern times, this would be the Anglo-Saxon nations such as Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand, and also the United States of America. The reference to trusting Mt. Samaria in Amos 6:1 could be a reference to trusting the USA to defend in the end. That will not end well for the USA or its allies of the Anglo-Saxon nations. 

Of course, few in those nations believe that they will be taken over and have such calamity. But that will come to pass. Most would not listen to Amos then, and most, sadly, will not listen to Amos now.

Amos Thiel is the ONLY true doubly blessed prophet on the earth today.  His is the ONLY Church of God doing anything of significance, even though an infinitesimal percentage of the world's population has ever heard of the deceiver.   A few hundred in the poor regions of Africa and a few hundred white Americans.

Oh but I keep forgetting,  a prophet is always without honor in his own country.

Living Church of God Shuts Down Hawaiian Feast Site: Jim Meredith Left Devastated

For a quite some time now we have been receiving information about Jimmy Meredith's intense fascination with Hawaii.  He had been spending many vacations in Hawaii at his own expense, but once he talked his daddy into making him a festival coordinator, he quickly assigned himself to handle the Feast site in Hawaii. Of course thus was all done at tithe payers expense. First class hotels beckoned to Jimmy as he spent countless days checking out their amenities in order to give LCG members a full report.

LCG members have been complaining for a long time now about Jimmy's lavish spending and escapades in Hawaii while on LCG's payroll.  As members struggled to pay their hotel room rates in lesser quality accommodations, Jimmy was staying in $300.00 plus resort rooms.

Those days are now gone.  As LCG's income continues to decline, what's Lil'Jimmy gonna do??????

A surprising omission from LCG’s list is Hawaii, organized by Roderick Meredith’s son, James. Neither has James been allocated another site, and in August his job as his father’s assistant will come to an end, when Gerald Weston takes over the rulership of LCG. He will then be left with only the winter festival to organize.

Not only did Living Church of God pulling out of Hawaii; COGWA and UCG are too.

COGWA has also pulled out of Hawaii, and its venue, the $300+ per night Hapuna Beach Prince Hotel, has been taken over by UCG - who will require on registration a non-refundable deposit of $325 plus $8 online processing fee per room. UCG will not be hosting a festival site in Hawaii next year. Church of God News

These three groups must preparing to join Davey Pack in Wadsworth for the next Feast.  Davey has prophesied that, so it HAS to be happening.