Dave Pack: Hundreds of millions of angels will be at the beck and call of RCG members

Can you imagine being a Restored Church God member who has been told they are the most special people on the entire earth and that heaven will open to their desires and grant them every wish to then discover that Dave has lied to them from day one? Everything this man says is a lie.  The heavenly realm are NOT at their beck and call and will not be "ministering" to them as they rule the nations.

I am sure the RCG members sit there giddy with delight to be told this kind of malarkey. To be special and set apart has been one of the myths that Armstrongism has used to control members for 80 some years.

But, to minister to or to minister for…Live by the sword and perish by it—live by the sword and perish with it. I thought, “I had better double check. I want to see.” The word “to” is the preposition eis; e-i-s, pronounced like “ice” cold. “For” is dia [dē-ä]. It is a different word, and it means “on behalf,” “for,” “causatively.” It is not speaking of them ministering to you, it is speaking of them ministering for you! These awesome, powerful beings in great numbers.

Now let’s talk about them for a minute. Seven of them act as Christ’s eyes across the world. Four of them are going to effect the death of over two billion people. One took 72,000 lives, until it was stopped at Araunah’s threshing floor. They can travel at the speed of thought—shooop!—that’s a lot faster than that. It takes about an eighth of a second for light to travel around the earth—about an eighth of a second. So if you are traveling at the speed of light, 186,000 miles per second, you can get anywhere on Earth in about a 17^th of a second. Angels can move at the speed of thought. Seven of them will pour out the trumpet plagues that affect the entire Earth. Seven more, will pour out the seven last plagues. One angel, on God’s behalf, brought the book of Revelation to John, and he was so awesome, that a 100-year-old man—who knew better—started to worship him, and he said, “Stop. Stop. I’m your fellow servant.”

They are such awesome, amazing beings. Now God is way above them, we just saw that. Christ is made way better than they are. When He came back from the dead, Christ was now made, and He was way better than they were. Once He died, God had to bring Him back and make Him a member of His family again, and He was made much better than the angels. They can pass two buses right through each other. They can do battle with the devil and win. They are incredible beings!

We just talked about them, and how God is going to use them, hundreds of millions of them—billions maybe—to assist you. Do you think you’re going to need a bureaucratic pile-up all around you, train wrecking and choking everything in red tape? Absolutely not! If you told an angel…Before you even find out the power that God is going to give you, if you told an angel: “Get that king!”—shooop ‒ shooop—he’s back. “Bind him!”—Bang! You could do it yourself. I’ll show you, you’ll have the ability to do it yourself, or angels could do it on your behalf. That’s how billions of people come into subjection…but you have to come to grips with that verse. 

Dave Pack: RCG Members Will Have The Power To Execute People

When the created creature that Dave Pack calls "jesus" returns to reign BEFORE the tribulation, RCG member will have the power to imprison and execute people who refuse to obey them.  Dave also claims that they will NEVER be able to "get anything wrong."

And you should note…We haven’t proven yet that this is when Christ is reigning in Zion, but we will…it has sort of thrown some pretty heavy hints out there that these are a people who have been crowned, and they have glory and honor—exactly as they do in Psalm 149 when they are leading the most powerful people on Earth and they have power to imprison them…You will find, as we go further…Not this week…the power to execute people…and I will show you that you’ll never get a single decision wrong, because that becomes a question. Well, could we ever get anything wrong? I will give you five proofs that it’s impossible to get anything wrong—when we get to that.

Has there ever been a more superfantabulous bunch of church members to ever exist on earth? So perfect in every way and yet so incredibly stupid.

Ron Weinland Disturbed by Continual Loss of Members Out of His Cult

Ever since Ron Weinland was sent to prison for 3 1/2 years, his personality cult has suffered catastrophic loss of members.  When his dingy wife and appallingly corrupt children were left in charge of his cult at his imprisonment, he has seen loyal followers abandon him right and left.  Many were along time members who stood by him when all of his previous prophecies failed.  They have finally had enough, and this includes his own mother!

I think of the lecture series I'm preparing for the ministerial meeting coming up in a couple of weeks. And we have Garth coming over from New Zealand and Wayne from Australia, and Chris. And then, of course, Willem, Audra, and Jeremy all coming in, as well as all the senior elders here in the U.S. and my wife and I. It's the first one we've had since 2011 where everyone was able to come in together like that. And so as I've been preparing some of that been very sobered by going back and looking at some of the statistics of things that have happened throughout a long period of time here and seeing the different ministers who have gone by the wayside, considering the numbers of people in the Church who continue to go by the wayside, and I think back at the time of Mr. Armstrong and seeing some of those ripples take place, as we're getting ready to talk about even here in what is covered in this section of the book, and it is a very sobering thing. But since the Apostasy far more obviously, and the things that we've gone through are on an incredible scale of a magnitude of a story flow that will be in history and in time that is quite astounding.

And so many, so many have gone by the wayside. Several since the Feast as well, several more in different areas. By several I mean probably six or seven. That's far too many people. Either disfellowshipped or suspended from services for a period of time. Those are difficult things to go through. But we're at a time now that we are either in the temple or we're not. And if people are dragging their feet and doing things they shouldn't be doing God is taking care of that. He's bringing everything to the surface. And you don't want to be in those shoes. It's one thing if things go through a process, we're able to go through things within the Church and they come out and we're able to deal with them as time goes along, but when God gets more directly involved, please understand He will bring to light the things that need to be brought to light. And that's the period of time we're in. And that's the kind of soberness we need to have, to be sobered, to be watchful, to be alert and to recognize what human nature can do.

A lot of people that I never would have dreamed of that have gone by the wayside over the last 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 years is quite amazing; individuals that I just wouldn't have thought it of. 

Weinerdude just cannot seem to understand that people are leaving because of all of his lies.  Every thing he has prophesied has failed to come to pass.  He has to continually reset dates or claim that his god has now allowed more time.  He also realizes that part of his problem is the internet.  His cult members are starting to read all kinds of things about him on the internet.  Many of his ex-members regularly comment on False Prophet Ron Weinland: Don't Drink The Flavor Aid Served By False Prophets.  Of course it is the evil of technology and pressures of the world that is drawing people away from his cult and not his failed prophecies.

That's always been an admonition to God's people, but especially now as we're drawing closer and closer to the very end, and because of the pulls of this world, because of technology and those things there are pulls upon people's lives, there are pressures in people's lives in a manner, in a way that never existed in God's Church in the past 2,000 years! In the last 20 and 30 years that has changed dramatically! And it's had an incredible impact on God's people because it's powerful, what we're dealing with out there in this world. And there is a lot of pressure and a lot of stress in society in the world. And you see this more and more. Incredible what's taking place out there before our very eyes. 

Even worse for Weinerdude and his dingy second witless witness wife is that this members who are left are not putting their whole heart into Weinerdude's work.

So again, the fact that you're here, the message from God is be encouraged and keep fighting. Keep fighting! Because you have to fight this all the way to the end and you can't do it halfway. We still have a few... still have a few that are kind of doing it halfway. Brethren, we have got to be in God's Church, in the Body of Christ, living our lives in the Father and the Son on a spiritual plane and them in us. And if we continue in sin, if we're not genuine to the core of our being God will bring those things to the surface. This is a time we must be genuine, we must be true, we must be worshipping God in spirit and in truth. And those weaknesses that we have in our life and the baggage we've been dragging along, it has to stop. We have to get a hold of those things, get a grip on those things in our life and fight like we've never fought! We're in the final stretch. 

We have been in the proverbial "final stretch" for 80 years now and not once has any of these liars ever gotten it right.  All of the endless rantings by Meredith, Pack, Flurry, Kubik, Thiel, Malm and the rest of the losers have been 100% wrong from the very moment they open their heretical mouths.

The lying loser still hopes that many will come back. He always creates an easy out for himself though.  It is not his actions that are during away people, but his god cleansing the temple of the unlearn chaff.  Those damn laodiceans are every where!

You have got to want it with all of your being. And so some who have been suspended, I hope they're able to come back, and I feel that some will. Others, I don't know! Are there more? I believe there are. We're not fully cleansed yet. Some are not doing what they need to be doing. Some are not battling like they should be. And I know that's true. I hate to see that. I hate to see individuals, for whatever reasons.... This is not a free ride. This is not something that's owed to us. It's something we must desire with all of our being, be convicted of it and cry out to God to deliver us, to strengthen us, to help to continue to go forward and not to take anything for granted, not to become lukewarm. 

You can read the rest of his lies here:  Be Encouraged, Part 5

Idiots in the Pulpit: Preacher wants to ban sex...as dangerous as cocaine

“Sex has never been ordained by God,” he began. “In fact, it was the first sin, Adam and Eve and the serpent. And you see what happened to the serpent on that. But, like I say, sex is the problem. If you don’t mention sex, two men or two women can live together, share a place, have a place, and one can leave whatever she got, and they can have a ‘merge partner,’ they call it.”

“I say this to the young people: Sex is a very dangerous thing. As dangerous as can be. As dangerous as cocaine or anything else. If you start, say as a young person, and get hooked on that, and it’ll paralyze your mind where you won’t learn very well like you ought to, most time. And it’s gonna create all kinda problems.

Continuing on with his line of thought, the man said, “Sex, I think, well, sex is the biggest, the most reason, well, all the homeless, abused children in the world is because of sex. And 99.9 percent, I guess there’s been a few [intelligable] that was because of money then. But money and sex is the two worst things out there and sex is a mighty big one.”

There may however be a rational explanation to the dramatic outburst. The American Psychological Association defines Erotophobia as a fear of sex. This could be a good explanation as to why the man of cloth would go as far as exaggerating statistics about homelessness when in actual fact, 47,000 of the homeless population in the US are veterans.  Theos Watch

Dave Pack Has Numbered The Angels

Does anyone dare tell Dave that the number of angels is of no relevance to anyone?  Does it really matter?

“I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands” (vs. 11). Now, this is just the number of angels around God’s throne. Looks like it’s somewhere in the neighborhood…by one way of counting…of about 150 million angels—just the ones that are there.

Christ travels with 20,000 angels, so…I don’t know how many others there are. There is another way to look at this. The Greek may actually mean…Now, this will be hugely important later…may actually mean there are 100 million. “Ten thousand times ten thousand” is obviously 100 million but it’s 100 million times thousands and thousands. The Greek suggests…frankly, strongly…that’s a more correct way to look at it. So it’s vast, vast billions of angels, exist. Now, just file that. It will be bigger later on.

Dave Pack: We are now in Satan's "puny occasion" Stock Market Collapsing

Poor Dave.  One of the problems of continually running off at the mouth is that it is now recorded for history.  Besides making stupid statements about Satan, he also made a false statements about the stock market.

In all honesty, brethren…And I’m going to get into this more. This will not be this week, it will be next week. When the devil is cast down later, because he is going to first be removed just before Christ’s rule from Zion…I will show you all the proofs of that. I just can’t get to it, but I will and it’s next week…But when he is cast down, it says he’s angry because he knows he has but a short time. The word “short time” there actually means “puny occasion.” He is cast back to the earth and before he is thrown into the bottomless pit for a thousand years, he has this period called a “puny occasion.” Now that’s interesting. You can look up the Greek. He is very angry, partly, because he has been gone, and partly, because now that he’s back, he has a very short time……

The world is collapsing almost too fast. If you look at the stock market, it was the worst week in American history—and that was true about Wednesday morning. Yesterday, the Dow was down over 500 points at a certain point. Just in American wealth, there is 2 trillion dollars…Two trillion dollars of wealth has been lost in the United States, since the beginning of this calendar year. Then, of course, there is terrorism. There are all kinds of problems in politics. The world is collapsing in extraordinary ways, and we should be able to “behold” that. It’s everywhere……

Ever since Donald Trump has been elected as President the markets have been at an all time high.  It is not the worst in history, it is the best.  The world is NOT collapsing and THAT makes Dave and Meredith and all the other liars really mad.  How can God not be on their side?  How can their god keep feeding them such erroneous information?  Why is the tribulation NOT here yet?

CNN: Stunning! Dow hits new high of 19,000 as Trump rally continues

Dave Pack: It Won't be long till all of the COG leaders are dead.

Dave Pack has a been struggling for years in trying to impress various COG ministers that he has had contact with.  All of them know him to the the fraud he is and that does not sit well with him.  He has had to lash out at them at every chance he gets. It is because of them that tens of thousands of COG members have refused to come over to Dave's side.  Dave's plans continually get frustratingly sidelined due to all of the negativity that surrounds Dave.

It has been thirty years since Herbert Armstrong died none of the COG leaders have ever been able to capture the vision that HWA had.  Even Dave, God's most superfantabulous minister to have ever been almost immaculately conceived, cannot match HWA.

The first great proof is we’re in the seventh, and therefore, final church era—and we are deep into it. Mr. Armstrong died 30 years ago, today, at 6:05 a.m., Pacific Time. That is a shocking statement if you think about it. We are deep into the Laodicean age. That alone would tell you—since there are not eighth or ninth eras—that we are near the end of the age.

Second, we’re at the end of 6,000 years according to just basic math…

Here is a third one…Perilous times exist today, think II Timothy 3 and verse 1, in unprecedented ways. It’s an incredibly dangerous world. Much more dangerous, frankly, right now than I thought it would be, and we are still facing a great Work that will likely last a few years. God’s Kingdom needs to come very soon…or the world is just too dangerous to continue. Well, of course, God’s Kingdom is coming very soon…But we are in perilous times by every definition, but I will explain—and powerfully prove—much later in the series why this is largely about the Church. But just realize that about every 90 minutes there is a terrorist act somewhere on Earth—every 90 minutes—and it’s rapidly accelerating……

Think about this next one: Conditions are perfect for Grace to be fulfilled. I could spend a lot of time on that; but, by now, you should understand that without much qualification. It’s a signal that we are in the end of the age—in a big way. There are all kinds of things going on in the splinters, frankly, that make me very sad. More and more senior ministers are either having strokes…Another evangelist, in one of the splinters, had a massive stroke that struck him at the base of his brain, right after he gave a sermon a week ago, and he’s probably never going to recover. I helped transition him to the Living Church of God (Actually then, it was the Global.)…I got to be very close to him.

Another senior minister in that same organization, an evangelist (at least, the way they count them) just came through radiation therapy. There are others having strokes and suddenly dropping dead. It won’t be long before there won’t be many more ministers. Now, we know that God will resurrect many of them, but that is a separate point.  Part 11