Dave Pack: Parents Should throw the first stone at rebellious children.

If you have a rebellious teenager…violent, curses his parents. Teenager says “I don’t care if this is God’s government. I don’t care.” They are just rebellious and violent. Do you just let them run amuck through society? There is justice and judgment and equity in the earth under God’s government…

Under God’s government in ancient Israel, they would be put to death. They would have to be. Now, they would be warned…but, you know, if you cursed your father and mother, in Deuteronomy it says the parents threw the first stones. They had to say “This, our child, is rebellious. He will not do what we say,” and the judges condemn the child—the parents throw the first stone.

Eric King: Now A Seventh Message Mormon

It has been while since Eric King has been featured here.  King has went from being a Hari Krishna, to Church of God member, to communicating with alien beings, to now witnessing to Mormons.

SOCT History of the Church of the First Born

All Mormon Christians should read this and pay attention. This is a foundational understanding to becoming a Seventh Message Mormon. If you do not understand this basic outline of the Christian Church as it moves through time you will not truly understand the Seventh Message which has come forth to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and indeed to the entire world in this the seventh-time. You must grasp this message and all of what it contains. You must understand just where the church is in prophetic history. May you be brought here by the Holy Spirit and may you be sealed with this final day message.

Sixth Era

The sixth era is that of Philadelphia. This is the time that the true church holds to. This is the only church that Jesus Christ had no problems with. Even though we are in the seventh church era which is that of Laodicea we are trying to keep people in the spiritual state of Philadelphia. When God originally completed His work during the re-creation of our planet on the sixth day all was perfect and thus it was. This sixth church time is extremely important to understand and we urge all SOCT students to study this period of the church. ~

It was during this era which began in the 1930’s that God used the man Herbert W. Armstrong to restore 18 important truths to the church. God informed him to name the church, the Worldwide Church of God. This was indeed a remnant of the true church and we recognize that it was a branch of the true church. Herbert W. Armstrong was not a Mormon and neither he or his congregations accepted the Mormon message but that was not his mission. ~

*Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong also taught in agreement with the prophet Joseph Smith that America was made up and founded by the literal tribes of Israel. ~

He was an apostle who did receive secretly the priesthood but never came public with his authority to teach…instead Heavenly Father used him for specific things regarding doctrinal fulfillments. After his death the Worldwide Church of God was broken apart. This all happened for a reason. Those who experienced Christianity in the Worldwide Church of God were to go through many trials up until they were to accept the Book of Mormon along with many of the truths that God revealed to Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong. This did not occur until October 7^th 2011 under the calling of Mr. Eric William King. ~

So the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been given a message from this remnant known as the Worldwide Church of God and has in fact been given this new name, Worldwide Church of God in our present seventh era. Through this movement Heavenly Father has restored even more truth to His church particularly regarding God’s true Holy Sabbath Day and true Holy Feast Days. The prophet Joseph Smith saw this day coming when it was revealed to him the following in the Doctrines & Covenants: ~

“And also, if there be bounds set to the heavens or to the seas, or to the dry land, or to the sun, moon, or stars…All the times of their revolutions, all the appointed days, months, and years, and all the days of their days, months, and years, and all their glories, laws, and SET TIMES, shall be revealed in the days of the dispensation of the fullness of times…According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest.” – DC, 121:30-32 (July 8^th, 1838) ~

Heavenly Father [Divine Intelligence] used the movement started by Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong to bring this revelation to fulfillment. These teachings have now been restored to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in our present seventh church era…that of Laodicea. ~

The Seventh Era

Our present church era is the Laodicean era. This era comes in two parts: first the typical-Laodicean era. We are currently experiencing the typical-Laodicean era which started on October 7^th 2011 when two of the secret 12 apostles appeared to Mr. Eric William King and ordained and anointed him to bring forth what we now know to be the Seventh Message. ~

It was through Sir Eric William King that Heavenly Father merged the Worldwide Church of God reformation to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This was prophesied to occur by Joseph Smith himself. It was revealed to Joseph Smith: ~

“God shall give unto you knowledge by his Holy Spirit, yea, by the unspeakable gift of the Holy Ghost, that has not been revealed since the world was until now; Which our forefathers have awaited with anxious expectation to be revealed in the last times, which their minds were pointed to by the angels, as held in reserve for the fullness of their glory; A time to come in which nothing shall be withheld, whether there be one God or many gods’ they shall be manifest.” – DC, 121:26-28 (July 8^th, 1838) ~

Our present Laodicean time is a time in which “nothing shall be withheld”. Only pride will prevent people from accepting this message. ~

“Yea, wo be unto him that saith: We have received, and we need no more!” – 2 Nephi 28:27

“Wo be unto him that shall say: We have received the word of God, and we need no more of the word of God, for we have enough!” – 2 Nephi 28:29

We have yet to enter the second phase of the Laodicean era. The second phase is called the anti-typical Laodicean period and this will commence at the beginning of the Great Tribulation, the finality of the end times. ~

We hope that this has helped you come to a better understanding of the Seventh Message for the Worldwide Church of God and the Latter-day Saints [LDS Church]. Christians who have accepted this message have become known as Seventh Message Mormons. ~

~May you gain peace profound.

Note: Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong was the first of the Secret Twelve Apostles to be brought to the public.
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Dave Pack: No One In The Church of God Has Pastored As Many People As I Have

Dave, the ever so humble superfantabulous Church of God minister.  There has never been a pastor as good as he has been nor taken care of more people.  Dave knows this for a fact as he claims to track all of the ministers in all the various splinter groups.

Finally, I would use this example…and you can take it for what it’s worth, and that’s the lesson of my pastorates. As I’ve said many times, I pastored 11,000 people, personally. I don’t know, maybe there are others in the world who have had higher numbers. I don’t know. There’s certainly nobody in Worldwide Church of God in the 90 years since God called Mr. Armstrong who ever got to half that number. That I know for a fact, because I track those things. And I will just say, my experience was that I could pour my heart out in sermons, spend years working with people and get to know them, and I found over and over again most of them weren’t praying, studying, fasting, meditating at all. A few were doing it some; a very few, a lot. That was the story of those 3-by-5 cards…I wrote of in my autobiography.

Dave Pack: Joe Tkach Sr. "HAD NOTHING GOING FOR HIM"

Dave Pack is no fan of Joseph Tkach Sr.  He sound just like Bitter Bob Thiel.

Mr. Armstrong died, and a rather crude, ignorant, poorly spoken man, whose sermons were prepared for him by others—all of them—poorly educated, terrible grammar…arose, and in no time, people sprinted from the truth, in ways they would have fought you to the death, practically, if you had told them six months before Mr. Armstrong died, that in five years or 10 years, you’ll have Christmas trees up. Scores of thousands of them—but they did.

I’ve looked at Mr. Armstrong’s successor…I knew him and talked to him many a time—ignorant, couldn’t write, couldn’t talk without reading. Most people don’t know that man never wrote one co-worker/donor letter in his life—he never wrote anything. I know the man who wrote it. I know the man who wrote everything. He never wrote an article. He never wrote a booklet. He never wrote a letter. He never wrote the notes to his own sermon. He’s the closest thing to having nothing going for him you ever knew.

My best friend was in his close circle. I heard all kinds of stuff, and yet he turned people…like taking candy from a baby. It’s easy to turn people. This guy wasn’t some master debater, some sorcerer, some spiritual David Copperfield who came along. HE HAD NOTHING GOING FOR HIM. No one could figure out why he was the Pastor General, and the answer is God wanted Herbert Armstrong to pick him, as a type of a somebody as bad as that, as weak, and foolish, and biblically ignorant as he was could turn tens of thousands of God’s people on a dime, and have them sprint over a cliff like lemmings on the way to the sea. Will you be instructed by that? The answer is they never changed their hearts. Now that will be a warning to all for the future……

Dave Pack: The Plain Truth About Annie Green Springs Wine

Besides being a theological powerhouse, Dave Pack is also a fine wine connoisseur.  No Rothschild wine for this guy!  Only the best will do....

“Howl, you inhabitants of Maktesh, [a city] for all the merchant people are cut down; all they that bear silver are cut off. [That is, basically, the business owners and the bankers.] And it shall come to pass at that time, that I will search Jerusalem with candles…[to find any person who escaped]…and punish the men that settled on their lees…” (vs. 7-12).

Now here is what “lees” are…Lees is the sediment that appears at the bottom of a vat of mature wine. When you read the word “lees” in the Bible, it is associated with wines. It’s all the sediment. You, probably, have poured some quality wines out, and once in a while, there is a little bit of sediment at the bottom. That’s the lees, the lees of the wine that didn’t quite get filtered out. Annie Green Springs and some of these other cheap wines usually don’t have much lees in there, because they never settled. They, basically, were made at 2 o’clock and served at 3. Anyway…

Dave Pack: Only Ignorant, Unlearned and Unstable People Twist Scriptures, Unlike Me....

Dave Pack just admitted he is "ignorant, unlearned and unstable."  The Church of God has been filled with thousands of men who twist scriptures around to fit their OWN interpretations.  Dave has taken this a step further and created scenarios that no one else has ever come up with.  All lies.

God wants people who tremble at His Word, who don’t wrest it and twist it. I’ll tell you who does that—people who are ignorant, unlearned and unstable. So, brethren, don’t be discouraged if you see someone leave. A tiny number are—and will. The Church is booming. Wonderful things are happening in all directions. But a few people are vetting themselves out, as they have been doing for 2,000 years. Better they’re gone now than we have to watch them leave later. They don’t believe it. All this is laid out before them and they don’t want to be part of it. They don’t believe the Word of God. It’s so absolutely plain, it’s impossible to miss. I wonder how we missed it—except it was not our time.

Dave fails to see this scripture is about himself:

2 Peter 3:16The Message (MSG)

14-16 So, my dear friends, since this is what you have to look forward to, do your very best to be found living at your best, in purity and peace. Interpret our Master’s patient restraint for what it is: salvation. Our good brother Paul, who was given much wisdom in these matters, refers to this in all his letters, and has written you essentially the same thing. Some things Paul writes are difficult to understand. Irresponsible people who don’t know what they are talking about twist them every which way. They do it to the rest of the Scriptures, too, destroying themselves as they do it. 

Dave Pack: We Believe in the Big Bang Theory Corrected

 Oops, wrong Big Bang theory....

Dave's god is ready to burn the soil of the earth till it turns into molten mass.  Notice his chortling believers.

Job: Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? You could go to all these verses. The foundation of the earth is forever—it’s settled—but God is going to burn down to that foundation and rebuild, much like He did after the devil’s destruction before Adam and Eve’s time; much as He will do again, to resurface the earth to open His rule from Zion—but this time He’s going to burn right down to the foundation and start over completely. Maybe, because nuclear weapons were used. I don’t know why He’s going to go as far, but He intends, of course, to bring an entire new universe. So fixing the earth is nothing.

To the God Who says that the entire universe, billions of light years across, will be gone with a single BANG, do you think He has a problem burning the earth down through the soil—the elements melting with fervent heat? No. No. Can He do it fairly fast? He can get rid of the universe with a bang. It’ll be the Big Bang theory corrected, [laughter] you see…because we believe in the Big Bang theory, too. It’s when the universe went away, not when it came, [laughter] and we’ll have to explain that. Maybe I’ll weave that into a broadcast someday. But anyway…

And, by the way, isn’t it pretty exciting to serve this God? And isn’t it pretty important to be on the right side of events with this God? So how long will it take God to rebuild the surface of the earth, if He just says, I call to the universe and it—just BANG—stands up together? We already saw with a bang it goes away. No problem. How does all that happen on a day? Well, you just found out a possible oblique application to Joshua’s long day. But I thought I should be specific and just explain to you that the foundations of the earth stay the same. Back to II Peter. Let’s keep reading. There’s more to see. II Peter 3 and verse 11. We finished with verse 10.

“Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking [which means “waiting”] for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved” (II Pet. 3:11-12)…