How Will We Remember Bob Thiel and James Malm When They Die?

Yesterday I posted a brief story about the death of William Dankenbring, a former Worldwide Church of God member, writer, and minister.  I deliberately did not make any comments about his track record of public pronouncements, predictions or esoteric beliefs.  That should not be the point of announcing the death of people who have historical ties to the Church of God movement, and of whom many of us know.  

Not so with Almost arrested and jailed Bob Thiel and Chief Pharisaical Zealot James Malm.  Both of these false prophets let the spittle fly right off the bat with righteous indignation.

Zealot Malm writes:

29 Aug:  Self proclaimed COG prophet William Dankenbring  died today from congestive heart failure and renal failure, he had been living in Omak, Washington. 

False prophet William Dankenbring had numerous prophetic failures and many obviously false doctrines, which were as unscriptural and as utterly fantastic as Dave Pack’s or Ron Weinland’s.   He left the WCG to form Triumph Ministries, establishing himself as a sacred names enthusiast.   Most COG folks saw through him but he did have a small following.

Elijah and Second Witless Witness Bob Thiel  was even more brutal:

William Dankenbring was a prolific, though often inaccurate, writer. He used to write for the old Radio and Worldwide Church of God until he left and went out on his own. 

Although I heard about him originally in the 1970s, my first encounter with William Dankenbring was about 25 year ago. I wrote to him then objecting to some of his writings and asking to be taken off of his mailing list–a mailing list I had never asked to be on. Well, he was not pleased and wrote a tirade against that which he published. All my encounters with him over the years were negative. 

William Dankenbring made many false predictions over the years that I have denounced. He was always in error and time proved that.

But perhaps the most egregious negative experience I had with him was when I informed him that a written source he claimed proved at 15th, and not 14th of Nisan, Passover did not say what he claimed it did. He refused to even look at the actual proof when I offered it.

He, like many, had an opinion, and did not want to believe facts that did not support that opinion. 

Here we have two certified liars and false prophets, who currently preach unscriptural baloney, proclaiming another fellow COG leader a false prophet and a liar.  Talk about total hypocrisy!  Thiel and Malm have both lied and made false prophecies and predictions.  They both teach heretical crap that has no relevance to a new covenant Christian.  Both continue to bow at the altar of Moses while ignoring and diminishing that so inconvenient dude, Jesus.  Whoring themselves out to the law apparently is not an issue for them.  Nor, is looking inward at their own warped sense of reasoning.

How people respond to the death of these two will be interesting to see.  It remains to be seen if they will continue to lie and set wrong dates, and then back peddle and lie again, as they already have been doing, and as Dave Pack and Gerald Flurry do. I can guarantee though that when Gerald Flurry and Dave Pack die there will be no mercy leveled at their death announcements.  Perverse men like these do not deserve the honor.

UCG Member Just Thankful To Be Able To Sweep Doorsteps IF and IF God Lets Her Into The Kingdom

Did you know that the life story of Herbert Armstrong is comparable to Jesus' story or that of the original apostles? Herb was betrayed by many loyal men over the years just like Jesus was.

Even worse though is the idea that the person has been brought up and taught by UCG ministers that as a woman in the church she was unworthy and that "god" just might possibly let her into the kingdom if she fulfilled all the commands of the church.  Works always trump mercy when law reigns supreme. Armstrongism has always taught that none of us were ever qualified to make it.  We could never do enough, do what was right, or ever please God.  Herbert Armstrong's coworker/member letters always brought this point out.

Here is what a UCG member said on Facebook:

I'm just hoping I can sweep a door step somewhere in the Kingdom.. As long as I get there.. I don't know what UCG church you went to but it wasn't the same one I know. As far as HWA is concerned, I never met the man but I have listened to hundreds of stories over the years about him and his teachings.. His mistakes.. His sins.. His great accomplishments.. His betrayals at the hands of those closest to him... His story sounds fairly similar to most every man on this earth.. Even some from a group of 12 many years ago. Was he.. I don't know.. Only God does.

William Dankenbring Dies

William Dankenbring has died.  Dankenbring was a prolific writer while he was in the Worldwide Church of God and after he left.   I remember his books displayed in Jekyll Island the year after he was kicked out.  The ministers stood on stage and demanded that church members not buy his books.  He had negotiated deals with gift shops, liquor stores to display and sell his books during the Feast.  People bought them anyway.

He has a web site here:  Triumph Prophetic Ministries (Church of God)  His site is heavily into conspiracy theories and other wild diversions.

He died today, August 29, 2017, around 1:00 pm. of congestive heart failure and renal failure.

He has lived the past few years in Omak, Washington.

LCG Scott Winnail: I encourage you, avoid the mistake of telling your daughters and your granddaughters that they can be anything they want to be.

Raising Daughters, Raising Godly Women

Scott Winnail says:

"How many women today speak in meek and quiet ways? Is that what society is pushing women to do; be meek and quiet? We have some interesting discussions in my class when we talk about this. No, what is society telling you as a woman? “Be strong, stand up for yourself, defend yourself. Cut to the chase, don’t take flak from anyone.” What’s wrong with this picture though? Parents, grandparents, I encourage you as we think about this, avoid, I encourage you, avoid the mistake of telling your daughters and your granddaughters that they can be anything they want to be. There’s a fallacy in that. We don’t want to direct our daughters and our granddaughters into a job or career path that forces her to change her character into something that God didn’t intend. And there are job and career paths that will turn a woman’s character opposite of what God designed it to be. If we force (we don’t force), if we push our daughters and granddaughters into those careers they will never be fully happy. They can’t be, because those career paths and jobs are forcing them into roles that God doesn’t want them in. That’s a fallacy: “You can be anything you want to be.” Men can’t do that either. We shouldn’t tell our boys that either, “You can be anything you want to be.” No you can’t! Not and be a Christian. There are plenty of job responsibilities that are wrong, that are un-Christian, that break the law of God. Developing weapons, serving in the military, serving in security jobs where you carry a weapon, working as a doctor where you know you’re going to be on call two Sabbaths a month, and you know you’ll work. That’s not an ox in a ditch situation that’s pushing an ox into the ditch. So, telling our kids that they can do anything they want to do, they can be anything they want to be, is a fallacy, whether it’s to boys or to girls."

Tithe of the Tithe: How The Church Steals More Money From Members

One of the biggest con-jobs the church laid upon members was the command for members to tithe upon their second tithe.  This money was supposed to go to the church where they used it for Feast site support.  This money ended up being used for all kinds things other than the feast.

This is from the Hulmerous Church of God on how the COG justifies stealing an additional 10% from members.

Church of God an International Community The October 2016 issue of Church of God News contains an article (p.13-14) by Tim Anderson, ‘Tithe of the Tithe’, a phrase that is found twice in scripture:

Num.18:26 ‘Moreover thou shalt speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithe which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up a heave-offering of it for Jehovah, a tithe of the tithe.’ 

Neh.10:38 ‘And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure-house. For the children of Israel and the children of Levi shall bring the heave-offering of the grain...’

Tim Anderson writes: “In 1964 God’s Church faced a crisis. Over 22,000 people would attend the Feast of Tabernacles that year. The next year there would be more than 29,000 (with 12,000 at a single Feast site). Projecting the Church’s phenomenal growth, they were planning on around 140,000 by 1971 [and 144,000 by January 1972, when Herbert Armstrong would make the long awaited announcement of the place of safety], and they had no idea how to accommodate so many people. After much consideration and prayer, God led Mr. Armstrong to the answer: a ‘tithe of the tithe’.”

The WCG were already receiving and spending 100% of the first tithes, so Herbert Armstrong translated this phrase to mean one tenth of the second tithe.

“Today we use tithe of the tithe to refer to giving 10 percent of our second tithe to the Church, to aid in financing the Feast of Tabernacles. Mr. Armstrong instituted this practice in 1964 based on the biblical principles of the Levites giving a tenth of tithes to the priests. It wasn’t a direct command, but the application of a principle found elsewhere in the Scriptures.”

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Hurricane Harvey plays right into the hands of the false prophets of the COG

As usual, various COG ministers who think they are somehow in direct contact with their gods, think they know what It is thinking and doing.  Never ones to let a good disaster go to waste, they are jumping into their usual "angry god" stage and claiming that their god is really pissed at the humans living in that area of Texas and is deliberately punishing them.  Their god demands this kind of action.

The almost arrested and jailed false prophet and improperly ordained Bob Thiel, of the improperly named "continuing" Church of God, has already let his pissed off god loose to wreck havoc.

God controls the weather. Wet weather is sometimes used by God for judgment and correction. 

As regular readers of this page are aware, I have repeatedly warned of weather problems coming. Back in 2009, in my book, 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect, I wrote that the following was about to happen:

Odd weather patterns result in food shortages and natural disasters.

Matthew 24:7

The world is actually in a berserk transition, as the real age of peace is not yet here. It may be a period of chaos. It is the beginning of sorrows.

Matthew 24:8

Since that was published, we have had record smashing heat and odd weather problems. These weather issues should serve as a wake-up call.

Like of any typical doom and gloom false prophet of Armstrongism, they need their god to be consistently angry at its children.  Their god has been angry at the United States for 80 some years now and is constantly whipping up one disaster after another in order to bring the nation to its knees so it can worship the god of these false men.

Weather issues will likely help weaken the USA.

Weather events should serve as a wake-up call. 

Something much worse than Hurricane Harvey will hit the USA one day.