Freed From Herbert W Armstrong's God

Everyone is a blasphemer, except for me

Over the last few months, we have had various idiots on the web  that have been claiming the end was here.  The latest were the ones who claim planet Nibiru was supposed to hit the earth today and kill us all.  As usual with ALL self-appointed false prophets, they were wrong.  The world is filled with these kind of people, with many of them finding a platform in WorldNetDaily, the official news source for many Churches of God.  This is also the news source for Almost-ordained and arrested Bob Thiel.

The almost-ordained one is particularly perturbed that these lying fools are making Christians look stupid. From wayward planets, Obama and Hillary, to the eclipse, it has been one crazy prophecy after another, and Almost-arrested Thiel has to talk about all of them on his blog.  Why he wants to give them credence by the incessant reporting is beyond most peoples comprehension.

The lying false prophet and self-appointed preacher then makes this hypocritical statement:

Because various ones have falsely claimed that God is sending a message through natural phenomena, they are turning people off against Bible prophecy. 

Seriously?  Almost-ordained Thiel claims these people are turning people against Bible prophecy when he has done the exact same thing!  His prophecies are just as bad as the 208 documented lies of Herbert Armstrong, Gerald Waterhouse, Herman Hoeh, Rod Meredith and others.

Elijah Thiel then quotes a scripture that describes when he does precisely:

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2 Peter 2:1-3)

Almost-arrested Thiel then writes this:

The false prognosticators cause the Christian way to be blasphemed, even though (in my view) none of those I have specifically named are real Christians.

Can he really be serious?  What about the hundreds, if not thousands of false prognosticators that have littered the Church of God over the last 8 decades?  What about the lies of James Malm, Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack and those he has espoused?  Thiel, Malm, and all of the others are the blasphemers!

He ends with this:

...there are many false and heretical leaders that lead people astray on prophecy. Sometimes they mention the Bible to try to act like God sanctions their nonsense. And it is not just the secular fringe people, but also those who claim to be Christian or even in the Church of God.

What about the false and heretical leaders in the Church of God who have led and continue to lead members astray with one lie after another.  Every single one of these lying fools use their Bible to pretend that their god has validated their teachings.  It's not just the idiots on WorldNetDaiy that say these lies, it is Church of God leaders like Thiel, Malm, Pack, Flurry and others that do this day in and day out. Nothing that Thiel or Malm predicts will ever happen.  That is guaranteed!


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Fake COG Prophet Still Cannot Get Any Respect

It has to be so frustrating sitting in your home office day in and day out, stymied by the fact that all of the Church of God's laugh at you and members ridicule you.  How can God, who has personally set you apart as a witness to the world, allow such things to happen? But alas, the way of a martyr is always painful and fraught with tests that God allows because he has let Satan run the world.  Big bad meanie Satan is out to make sure COG members do not follow the real prophets of the church. Or, that is what these self-appointed deluded professional liars of the COG believe about themselves.

Almost-arrested and almost-ordained Bob Thiel, God's most highly favored COG leader in the history of the world, and the most disappointing "son" Rod Meredith could have ever imagined, is upset once again that Living Church of God has failed to see that he is the one true prophet of the end times.

This arrogant self-appointed fool has this to say about himself and Living Church of God's stance that there are no prophets in the Church of God today.

Living Church of God members must be devastated to know that when Almost-ordained Thiel left to start his own personality cult, that there are no longer any prophets in the church. Talk about narcissistic arrogance!

LCG’s position is that it has NO prophets (which is apparently the case as I stopped associating with LCG on 12/28/12). And it has had Dexter Wakefield publish that:

We are aware of no prophets in the Church today (Wakefiel D. Living Church News, July-August 2015, p. 26)

But it should be noted that its top leader had repeatedly taught in the past that God may consider Bob Thiel to be a prophet (see How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God). Consider also:

• On August 26, 2012, LCG Evangelist Dr. D. Winnail told Bob Thiel, “We all think that you might be a prophet.”  In order in order to determine who “We all” was, on September 7, 2012, I asked if this was a reference to all three of the LCG Charlotte-based evangelists and Dr. Winnail concurred.
• On January 7, 2013, Dr. Douglas Winnail sent me an email, which included the statement, “we made comments to you  that “you may be a prophet.””

Now that I am not in LCG, it seems obvious that LCG does not have any prophets. As far as LCG and other COGs go, they have at least 38 prophetic errors, which are cited in the article The Laodicean Church Era.

It is no wonder that Rod Meredith denied Thiel for many years and the things he taught.  Meredith no more named him a prophet than Gaylyn Bonjour set him apart to be a splinter cult leader. Everything Elijah Thiel does is because his deluded brain dreamed it up.  God is no more part of Amos Thiel's splinter cult than he is with Dave Pack's or James Malm's.

The false prophet of Africa continues to lie about Rod Meredith calling him a prophet. Elijah Thiel believes that because he is younger than most COG leaders, that HE and HE alone is that younger prophet.  Rod Meredith laughs from his grave at this idiocy!

LCG’s late Roderick C. Meredith taught that Elijah would be a younger man than he. Its Dr. Winnail has taught that the Elijah is not a person but an “Elijah-type work” which fulfills the Elijah prophesies in Matthew 17:10-11 and Malachi 4:4-6 (Winnail D. The Mission of the Church. Living Church News, March-April 2006, p. 7). The Bible shows that ‘Elijah’ will be a person (see also The Elijah Heresies). 

As far as rarity goes, I would ask, “How many people were told by an actual top evangelist in the Church of God that God may consider him to be a prophet?” In the 20th and 21st centuries, there is only one who comes to mind (details are in the article How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God). So, while prophets are “rare,” and being told one is a prophet by an ordained evangelist is also rare, rarity does not mean that there are none.

Thankfully, 99.99999% of the LCG membership know Amos Thiel to be a liar and a fraud.  That is why he has to run to Africa to find members.  Members who are using him for all they can get, but apparently the prophet is too limited in visions to see that.

After Leaving PCG, Ex Member Almost Debt Free And Close To Buying Home

The feel-good story of the day!  No longer burdened by the unscriptural lie of the demand to tithe and give countless offerings to one of the most perverse and spiritually bankrupt Churches of God's on earth today, an ex-member is close to being debt free and buying his first home.

Almost Financially Free After Exiting PCG:

 September 22, 2017

Ever since I left PCG I am much better off financially. They would say pay your 1st, 2nd and every 3rd year your 3rd tithe and of course the tithe of the tithe before FOT. I was always struggling for money and the "church" was like, well, if you are struggling you are not obeying the tithing law and need to do more. I was at one point considering bankruptcy until I finally left. Now, I am doing much better financially. I have paid down a substantial amount of debt and actually have money in my bank account, unlike when I had to send my tithe money and barely had 2 cents left in the bank. I am getting financially debt free and if I was still paying all those tithes I would likely still be struggling all the time. I could never afford a to buy a home and always rented in part because the PCG seem to frown upon people buying houses due to the "end of days" and all and money should be put towards God's Work and not physical things. Now, I actually believe in a few short months I will be able to buy a home. --Former PCG member   Exit and Support

Are COG Members Being Kidnapped, Held Against Their Will, Mentally Tortured and Deprogrammed?

God's most favorite Chief Pharisee is pulling a "Bob Thiel" today by claiming Church of God members are being intensely persecuted, so much so that some are being kidnapped and are being put in deprogramming programs.

This is what the lying fool Pharisee James Malm posted today:

In our modern society Gods faithful are persecuted everywhere; from being rejected by others, all to often including friends and family, to often being denied employment, but the most vile evil is the hiring of so called counselors to brainwash and try to intimidate people out of their faith.  

Such people prey on people of faith by trying to brainwash them; often using lying threats, holding people against their will and subjecting them to mental torture and psychological tricks; subjecting them to this “therapy of coercion” to get people to give up their beliefs outside their will, for big money of course.  

Can this idiot truly be serious????   It is people of faith being brainwashed by the blatant legalistic LIES of Malm, Thiel, Pack, Flurry, Kubik and others.  These men have all left trails of destruction in their wake as they destroy the spiritual and mental health of tens thousands of members.  Demanding the keeping of New Moons and blowing trumpets is just the tip of the legalistic bullshit these morons force on members.  They cannot talk about Jesus but will sit on their self-righteous asses with telescopes straining to see the faintest crescent of the moon rising.

The lying Pharisee then goes on to claim this is happening to COG members:

Such brainwashing mind control techniques as deprivation, hypnosis, the technique of having several persons take turns bullying and intimidating a person while giving the victim no rest until they collapse, and threats of violence and severe intimidation are used. 

If any COG members are dealing with this now it should be Philadelphia Church of God or Restored Church of God members.  They NEED to be deprogrammed!

I can guarantee you that not one single COG member is being bullied to the point they are ready to collapse.

The lying Pharisee continues:

These wicked men often prey on the vulnerable; young, old, weak, emotional, ill or borderline converted, in order to claim successes so as to make more money.  

Don't forget how the lying Pharisee is also begging for more money from his few hundred followers so that he can be supported instead of getting off his ass and getting a real job.  God forbid!

They are in the business of making money and when one stands up to them they will most often back down; if they persist then seek a remedy, first on your knees before God and then at court.  

Brethren, this vicious kind of attack has been practiced on many people of many different faiths even in our “land of the free”, and when the tribulation comes this will be happening on a much wider scale as the legal protections evaporate.

There are certainly cult deprogramming groups out there that deal with Scientology and others trapped in abusive and spiritually degenerate cults. These people have rescued people from dangerous cults and help guide them back to reality.

The lying Pharisee has these words of advice:

The way to deal with such vile evil is to:

1. Remember The Seven Pillars of Wisdom and ground yourself fully in every Word of God, so you can resist the attacks of the devil,

1. Go immediately to God for deliverance,  

1. Remember that God is vastly wiser and more powerful than these wicked men,

1. If you receive invitations to counseling by people who are hostile to your faith, respond by saying that you have as much right to worship God according to your conscience as anyone else does, and reject their invitation clearly, unambiguously and firmly, 

1. Then keep copies of the correspondence or make copies of emails and store them with your lawyer or in a similar safe place, 

1. Inform them that you have made copies of their correspondence and that you will seek a court order of protection if they continue to bother you, and that you will file criminal charges if you are kidnapped or if any further impingement on your constitutional rights occurs.  How to Defeat Satan's Agents

Spiritually degenerate men like Almost Ordained and arrested Bob Thiel, Chief Pharisee James Malm and others will lie through their teeth in order to make themselves look like martyrs for the crap they preach.  The world is not torturing them or persecuting them for their beliefs.  All they want is more money from their gullible sheep to support them in their "ministries."

Taking The Apostle Dave Pack to the Woodshed

"Every time Pack says facts and truth I cringe really hard."

"Mr. Pack is so completely outclassed intellectually by AronRa that I find these videos endlessly amusing and fun to watch. Pack wouldn't know a fact if one slapped him in the face"

"I hate to ask, Aron, but is Pack done yet? He's been droning on for what seems like an interminable time, and his BS isn't getting any better.

And sadly, I doubt he would ever dare look at this series."

Part XVII

Part XVIII

United Church of God: Still Conning Members With Tithe of the Tithe

United Church of God members are still being hoodwinked into tithing on the second tithe they have saved for the Feast.  UCG has cunningly changed the name of the tithe of the tithe to the Festival Fund.  Neither one has any scriptural validity.  Of the millions and millions UCG rakes in each year a person would think that UCG would foot the bill for the members.  After all, UCG takes in several large "offerings" during this time that are supposed to be "free will" offerings.

UCG, like most of the other COG's have fine tuned the system to take and take from members, even though none of the ministry and some of the HQ staff save second tithe. Since they are considered "Levites," thanks to the old Worldwide Church of God teaching, ministers do not save second tithe.  On top of that, many ministers and staff staying free at resorts where the Feast sites are located.  Then add to this the "blessing" ministers and certain staff have of having all of their meals, travel, gas and some personal expenses paid for by the church, it is one big happy fun fest of never having to worry about expenses, unlike a large percentage of UCG members have to do.

The Feast of Tabernacles is the highlight of the year for many. It is a great blessing to be able to gather together at Feast sites around the world to picture the coming millennial reign of Jesus Christ.

A lot of planning goes into preparing the Feast every year. Those involved are happy to dedicate their time, effort and expertise, and the ministry looks to God as they prepare messages for our spiritual food.

But the Feast costs a lot of money. Hall rentals, equipment rentals, second tithe assistance for those who don’t have adequate funds, printing expenses, activities expenses and more add up to a lot.

We need your help in being able to provide the Feast venues that enhance our celebration. Please consider sending a portion of your second tithe to help support the Feast. If you have any questions contact your pastor or the treasurer, Rick Shabi, at any time. 

Go to http://donate.ucg.org/ and click on Festival Fund to support the Festival Fund now. Or you can download a PDF of the form to enclose in an envelope with a check or money order. Click the download link on the left hand side of this page to download the form.