Exposing the underbelly of Armstrongism in all of its wacky glory! Nothing you read here is made up. What you read here is the up to date face of Herbert W Armstrong's legacy. It's the gritty and dirty behind the scenes look at Armstrongism as you have never seen it before!
With all the new crazy self-appointed Chief Overseers, Apostles, Prophets, Pharisees, legalists, and outright liars leading various Churches of God today, it is important to hold these agents of deception accountable.
Herbert Armstrong's Tangled Web of Corrupt Leaders
...as well as inarguable and cannot be questioned! Just try to argue with it. You can't!
This compilation leaves me personally asking
"What the hell is wrong with this man?"
A religious delusion is defined as a delusion, or fixed belief not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence, involving religious themes or subject matter. Religious faith, meanwhile, is defined as a belief in a religious doctrine or higher power in the absence of evidence.
This podcast episode discusses Bob Thiel's article challenging the traditional image of St. Nicholas. Thiel, an Armstrongist minister, argues that the popular Santa Claus figure significantly differs from the historical St. Nicholas, whom he portrays as a flawed and possibly unsaintly individual. His arguments draw on historical accounts and interpretations of scripture, contrasting with both common perceptions and mainstream Christian theology, especially regarding the Trinity and the veneration of saints. The podcast hosts challenge Thiel's research while emphasizing the need for critical analysis of his perspective, given his unique theological viewpoint and potentially biased source selection. Ultimately, the discussion prompts reflection on the evolution of Christian traditions and the importance of nuanced historical interpretation. Ai-COG
This podcast episode examines the conflicting views on baptism within the "Church of God the Eternal", a group stemming from Herbert W. Armstrong's teachings. John W. Brisby, a minister in a splinter group, establishes three rigid criteria for valid baptism, emphasizing lineage to Armstrong and adherence to specific doctrines. However, Brisby's criteria contradict Armstrong's own baptism, leading to a discussion of religious authority and the problematic nature of establishing exclusive truth claims.
The podcast encourages critical thinking about religious legitimacy and the importance of independent spiritual exploration.
This podcast episode analyzes Gerald Flurry's controversial views on Christmas. Gerald is the leader of the Philadelphia Church of God. Flurry, rooted in Armstrongism, argues that Christmas is inherently pagan due to its traditions' origins, claiming they stem from the worship of Babylonian deities. He asserts that celebrating Christmas is unchristian and leads to spiritual harm, citing the secularization of the holiday and potential childhood disillusionment. However, the podcast counters these claims by presenting historical evidence showing that many Christmas traditions, like the Christmas tree, have Christian roots or were adapted from other biblical practices, and that the Bible doesn't explicitly forbid such celebrations. Ultimately, the podcast encourages critical thinking and independent evaluation of Flurry's extreme perspective. Ai-COG
Dave Pack: Preserver of Fringe Theology and the Age of Cosmological Ignorance.
Note: Moloch, Remphan and Chemosh do not actually exist. Saturn and Venus, on the other hand....
"I'm gonna tell you some fascinating things no one has ever understood and I am sure of it!"
David C Pack
“I know more about Christmas than anybody who’s ever lived. Period.”
“I I maybe there’s somebody who knows more about [Christmas] than I do,
BONUS FOOLISHNESS
“I’ve studied prophecy, I am sure, by far, more than anybody who ever lived.”
"I know prophecy better than any man alive."
“Look, maybe there’re people who know New Testament Church history better than I, but I but I I’ll bet there aren’t three in the last two thousand years,
As for the mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lampstands, the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
NOTE: Lucifer, "the light bringer" also is given this title in scripture. It is the source of the idea that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers. Kinda like the good Horus (God of light) and the bad Set (God of Darkness) of Egyptian mythology.
“How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn!
NOTE: The story of the fall of Lucifer, the light (Sun) bringer, is simply the phenomenon, not understood back in the day when stars were spirits and Venus, as an inner planet rose and then "fell back to earth." made a great story explaining their world.
This rise and fall of Venus, especially in the morning prior to sunrise, is due to it being an inner planet. This phenomenon was the source of many a rich tale in antiquity.
Anyway...Merry Christmas from the world's greatest mind and expert on Christmas.
David C Pack
(And please don't forget that Jesus, for sure and it cannot be argued, returns next week on December 16th at 9:37 EST.
Unfortunately I have to work so I won't be available :)
The following was a comment today on another thread:
They just announced today in church that they're putting their sermons on their website under lock down. You now have to register and have a password to watch/listen to sermons! How is that making the gospel available to the world!? SMH....they're doing the exact same thing as LCG and PCG. Stop saying you want to preach the gospel to the world and then hide it away behind permissions and passwords. What you're really doing is exerting control. Can't any group do something different for a change without all following down the same controlling, cult-like path???
Why is it that most of the larger Church of God groups hide behind member walls? Do they now realize how embarrassing their sermons are and how little of what they say is of substance? They all claim coming intense persecution, but none of them have the balls to publicly say what they believe. Now they cower behind "paywalls". Ever since Herbert went around the world talking about a "strong hand from someplace" the ministry and splinter leaders have followed in that same pathway. Unable to really explain God, Jesus, grace, etc. they instead spout the same canned sermons you would have heard 40 years ago in the church.
"For thus saith the Lord, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place."
"For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
"Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
"And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
"And I will be found of you, saith the Lord: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the Lord; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive."
Are you ready to flee from the captivity of the various splinter groups that fill up COGland? It is time for you to break the chains of enslavement and return home to your one true mother. So says Samuel Kitchen:
Yes, God is going to bring all the membership of the Worldwide Church of God out of Babylon and back together as ONE FAMILY IN HARMONY.
We have been in CAPTIVITY BRETHREN.
Christ calls on us, as He does in Revelation 18:4 to COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE.
How God does this is based on WHEN you turn your entire heart unto Him and search Him and His ways out! That is how you "Deliver thyself out"(Zech 2:8) from dwelling among false churches and false religions! THAT IS HOW YOU ENDURE UNTIL THE END! That is how you remember what your parents taught you and how you can be involved with the finishing of the Elijah work which has been done through Mr. Herbert W Armstrong by Jesus Christ. Christ through His apostle turned the hearts of the fathers to their children and now is turning the hearts of the children to their fathers.
We can be part of the team which Christ will use to educate the entire world upon His return!
The Worldwide Church of God was not just our parents church. It is the Church which we have been called to be apart of! So lets seek out the Lord with all our hearts brethren.
Let us rise to the occasion and be what God has called us to be.
