"What is going on at RCG is fraud of a Biblical proportion"

 

Dave Pack is a "skilled" street magician with the scriptures. He's a corner sidewalk card hustler with Bible quotes. He can move the scriptures around week after week and trick the brethren into believing he FINALLY has the whole picture. NOW Daniel is unsealed. NOW "the days of his voice" are over. NOW the Mystery of God has ended.

In the end, Dave Pack fails. He throws the same verses into the blender and comes up with a new recipe that is always the same: Kick the can down the road. The train will never stop. It cannot stop. Because any pause in the action is at False Teaching Station. Dave cannot have that. His ego cannot have that. After all, someone has to keep feeding the horses.

As a former member and former employee of RCG, I recently joined the private Wadsworth Neighbors Facebook group and offered to answer any questions folks would have. The thread currently has over 800 comments. Locals want to know what is going on over there. If I have an answer that I know is true and factual, I tell them. If I don't know, then I say so.

What is going on at RCG is fraud of a Biblical proportion. Dave Pack cannot now, nor ever be right because the Bible proves him to be false. A false minister. A false apostle. A false prophet. A false teacher. God CANNOT allow him to get anything right.

And yet, the brethren are so exhausted, so confused, so dizzy...they don't know where to go or what to do. "If I just hang on one more time." And yet, the next time Dave says the Kingdom will come...it fails. Count on that! God says Dave Pack HAS to fail. Or the scriptures would be broken.

Every human being has a "line in the sand" and all it takes is time.

One way or the other, both God and history will expose what Dave Pack is to everyone watching. Those closest to him already know...they know in their hearts. EVERY former minister I've talked to that left...left feeling uncomfortable and with a tale to tell of inside the wooden walls on the 3rd floor. There is almost a uniform voice from ministers who left "all speaking the same thing." It paints quite the picture.

How I wish this would be over. Let Christ and God's Kingdom come so I can be declared an antichrist once and for all. OR...Christ and God's Kingdom comes and we can REALLY know what the plan is. I still want to be a part of that.

Marc Cebrian

Why do Restored Church of God members continue to allow themselves to be made out as fools for believing Dave Pack's daily lies?

 

Here we are in another day, the sun is up and it is a beautiful day outside and the Wadsworth "jesus" has not returned!

Every single day Dave Pack makes up a new excuse as to why the creature he invented has not returned and the Restored Church of God members sit there and lap it all up as truth. How many lies will it take before they wake up? Worse yet, how many more failed returns need to happen before some RCG employee or member snaps and there is another COG tragedy happening?

Why are COG members so willing to give up individual self-worth to blindly follow these liars? So many church members have a deep need to be told what to do and believe. That then removes all responsibility from themselves and alleviates their fear and insecurity. If someone else is in control of their beliefs and tells them what to believe then they can remain in a child-like state all their lives. Sadly, this is an attractive option for most RCG members and other COG members.

Restored Church of God members danced the night away in anticipation of Dave's creature returning, but alas, it did not, but fun was had anyway.

As a wonderful dinner dance went deeper into the evening here at Headquarters, it BECAME EVIDENT our wait MIGHT be longer than expected—PERHAPS deep into the night, or even the daylight portion of today. A POWERFUL rationale for a seven-day “one week”—not eight-day—Kingdom of Israel EMERGED, which SOLIDIFIED AFTER a meeting this morning with Headquarters ministers. The case is PROFOUND and involves many scriptures, but only two are needed for proof: 

 

Daniel 9:27 says Christ will confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK.” Simple reading leaves no room for an eighth day! The “confirmation” is finished in seven days. Couple this with I Corinthians 1:8, which says Christ will “confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ [synonymous with the Day of the Lord].” 

 

Do NOT MISS what is being said when these two passages are linked! “Confirmation” is complete in the Day of Christ—which caps a seven-day period! 

 

YET AGAIN, we should cling to the promise in Habakkuk 2:3 as the day progresses and we move into the night: “though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry!” We are all STILL MOST EXCITED and INSPIRED here as a meeting with 14 ministers comes to a close!

Dave met with the 14 men he considers his council. Being the weak impotent men that they are, they sat there and nodded heads in agreement with Dave's latest lies. I wonder how many of them deep down inside know that Dave is a liar? 

10 Million and Counting!

 

Who would have imagined that this blog would have ever hit 10 million site views? It was not even a spark in the back of my mind over twelve years ago when I originally started this to post information about books that were critical; of Armstrongism that were banned by the church so that members did not read them. 

I remember one time at a Deacon/Elders get-together at Dean Blackwell's home when he took us to his garage. It was filled with thousands of books, of which was a huge collection of anti-WCG/Herbert Armstrong books. One of the self-righteous deacons became rather upset seeing all of these books. Blackwell shut him down rather quickly and said that if you were ever going to debate and challenge assumptions about the church then you need to understand the opposing viewpoint. He also mentioned that many of the books that were critical of the church contained a lot of accurate observations about the condition of the church. It was at that point I started collecting these kinds of books and currently have over 50 of them from the early 1960s to the present day, as the count keeps growing yearly as more and more exCOG members tell their stories.

Of course, no one in their critical thinking would have imagined the Worldwide Church of God imploding in such an appalling fashion as it did in the mid-1990s. I was one of those who supported the changes in the church and knew them to be drastically needed. Working in Pasadena or even attending there as a student or as a church member at church services, you quickly learned that the church never practiced what it preached. Its public face and its behind-the-scenes face were two different entities. One proud and boastful and the other, a vengeful spiteful hypocritical mess.

As the church imploded many of these vain spiteful men broke off to form new Church of God movements, which most of the time were nastier and more abusive than anything that WCG had ever contemplated. Each and every one of them told the lie that they were returning to the "truth once delivered" and returning to 1st century Christianity. There is not a single COG out there today that has ever accomplished this and never will even as they continue to lie that they are.

With the rapid birth of hundreds of these harlot daughters of Armstrongism, the church grew crazier by the day. Failed or discredited ministers in the WCG soon earned a following in the splinterdom of Armstrongism.  None of us could have imagined the absolute craziness that they all started preaching and how they began to act.

Gavin Rumney soon came on the scene documenting the rapid decline of the church and particularly the fallout over the doctrinal changes affecting the college and church as they were both imploding. Numerous people in Pasadena and the church were feeding him a steady stream of stories about conditions in the church. Soon, members in the splinter groups start sharing stories of abuse already happening in these young churches. Also during this time, Ed Mentell started The Painful Truth site which was a no holds barred expose of church abuse and its heretical teachings. In 1997, Dixon Cartwright started, The Journal-News of the Churches of God, which rapidly became a slightly neutral ground for various COGs to share their stories and doctrinal stances. Former members and present members also shared their stories of how they were abused.

Never would I have imagined that this blog would end up doing the same thing, but when the church started getting so crazy and the internet was rapidly holding them accountable this blog also took off Gavin Rumney, unfortunately, had died and the Journal ceased operating. During this time and now, church leaders in the Philadelphia Church of God, Restored Church of God, Church of God Preaching the Kingdom, and the absurdly named "continuing" Church of God started saying and doing incredibly stupid things. 

Never has the Church of God been filled with such incredible theological idiots as have in Gerald Flurry, Dave Pack, Ron Weinland, and Bob Thiel. These guys may be the weirdest leaders, but the church also has to deal with lesser men like Weston, Kubik, Zerubbabel, and others. 

So, as long as these blithering idiots say and do stupid things I will continue to highlight them for as long as I am able or get so tired of their stupidity that it's time to hang it all up. But, till then all I can say is, Keep it up, boys! Especially Bob Thiel! Has the church ever had a more vain, narcissistic, tone-deaf leader than we get to watch in him?

 It is never a dull moment in Armstrongism as we get to watch in real-time as the church disintegrates into meaningless nothingness.

Crackpot Prophet Mocks Orthodox Christians And Then Claims They And Everyone Else Needs To Join His "Truest Christian Church"

 

 The Holy Light: The Miracle happened in Jerusalem (VIDEO) (upd)

One thing Church of God leaders has done is honed their skills on mocking the faith of others outside the little circle of Armstrongism/Church of God.

God's greatest prophet in the entire history of the church, who was set apart by God before the foundations of the world was set in place so he could emerge in the end times, had a conniption today over the observance of the Orthodox Christians as they celebrate Holy Saturday before Orthodox Easter, tomorrow.

Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem today; thousands in attendance at the Holy Fire ceremony pic.twitter.com/MoHyT27Sqd

— Israel Foreign Ministry (@IsraelMFA) April 23, 2022

Whether you believe the story of the fire or not, Orthodox Christianity has a fascinating history that is richer and more authentic than any of the drivel we were spoon-fed in the church. Orthodox Christianity in the Eastern Church is more similar to what the original church believed than any of the crap we see today in the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god". 

The Great Bwana believes this to be a Satanic conspiracy:

By currently believing in “holy fire” many Orthodox are unknowingly setting themselves up to accept the signs and lying wonders that the Bible warns about. The acceptance of signs and lying wonders over the truth of the Bible is part of Satan’s Plan. All, including the non-Orthodox, need to understand that signs and wonders are NOT of themselves proof that something is of God, including the annual ritual of “holy fire.”

The Chief Overseer of his Africa members concludes:

Anyway, God HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDING HOLY FIRE ON THESE ORTHODOX ANNUAL SATURDAYS. Those who believe that He did are deceived. Partially, because of that deception, they accept a compromised religion that IS NOT “the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints” (Jude 3). 

The great prophet mocks their faith in divine occurrences they believe in while he expects us to believe his lies about his own "divine" double blessing" and holy dreams by mentally disturbed individuals, including himself. If there is a Satanic conspiracy meant to deceive believers then Bob Thiel is at the top of the list.  

Of course, even if you are not Eastern Orthodox, you need to consider whether or not you believe and practice the original faith that is laid out in the Bible (see Continuing History of the Church of God), and even if you somewhat do, if you are supporting the truest Christian church.

Truest Christian Church?????? Seriously? Everything about the improperly named "continuing" Church of "god" makes a mockery of genuine Christians down through the centuries. Bob is such a pathetic little man. 

Holy 10 Toes, Batman!!!! Crackpot Prophet Makes His Followers Suffer Through 3 Mini Sermons Today

 

The world's greatest prophet to exist in human history, so important that he was doubly blessed, announced to his followers today that they deserve to sit through THREE mini-sermons today. Holy Naturopathy, Batman!

For the weekly Sabbath, instead of a short sermonette and a long sermon, we decided to try something a little but different this time. So, we are recommending three messages that are between the usual lengths of a sermonette and sermon.

Here is a suggested service for this weekly Sabbath: 

 

2-3 hymns (our songbook, The Bible Hymnal, contains the materials from the 1974 Bible Hymnal from the old WCG with new covers, plus ten additional hymns; there is also some Choral Accompaniment online). 

 

Opening prayer.

Message 1 by Bob Thiel: The Biblical Calendar.

Message 2 by Louis Rubin: Faith from God.

Announcements (if any) and one hymn.

Message 3 by Aleksandar Veljic: Background and Introductory Comments to the Book of Jeremiah.

Other sermons are also available at the ContinuingCOG channel.

Final hymn.

Closing prayer.

Still no Jesus, but this is a Church of God, after all.