Why is it that Armstrongism has to suck the joy out of life by finding everything pagan and satanic? Hell would be sentenced to eternity with nothing to listen to except Dwight Armstrong hymns.
The Hallelujah Chorus of Handel’s Messiah is sometimes sung for special music. But his Messiah really amounts to Nimrod. Handel composed Messiah for Easter, and later it was sung for Christmas, too, of the same spirit. Since Handel “composed sacred music for the Roman clergy” his songs should be avoided. He claimed when composing the Hallelujah Chorus that he saw God and the angels in Heaven. Really? Like the apostles Paul and John? Or is it more likely he was deceived about that along with other spiritual matters?The Battle Hymn of the Republic and Onward Christian Soldiers were Civil War songs to inspire fighting, brother against brother. Composed by unconverted people who do not know the true God, so when they invoked God in their songs, it was really a false god. False Christians invoke their false Christ or Nimrod unknowingly, a long-haired hippy.
The tune of Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken is the same as a German national anthem Deutschland über Alles (Germany above All Others), sung by members of the evil Skull and Bones Club as the Bushes and Kerry.John Newton wrote Amazing Grace and How Sweet the Name of Jesus Sounds . Though a transformed infidel, he was not really converted and believed in the Trinity (of Nimrod, wife and son). HWA allowed singing Come Thou Almighty King but had the 4th verse deleted for stating about the Trinity. Can we take pagan songs and cut out the bad parts to sing for God to be pleased? Can we bring a clean thing out of an unclean thing (Job 14:4)?Are we like a baby who puts anything into its mouth, singing any song which sounds good? What about one by a lesbian? Katherine Bates, a lesbian, composed America the Beautiful. Sung in Canada, Mexico and Australia with America changed to the nation’s name. Similar to My Country ’Tis of Thee, national anthem of Germany, Sweden and Russia before the US so could hardly be showing God blessing the US alone.A Catholic against Protestants wrote “If an anti-Catholic who holds to the ‘another Jesus’ theory wants to be consistent, he should stop singing All Creatures of Our God and King from now on, because it praises the ‘Catholic Jesus’!” This Catholic song is in Tkach’s Hymnal.COGs proclaim other religions as Catholics and Protestants (part of Mystery Babylon) do not know the true God, and they preach a false Jesus. So when they sing about Christ and God they are actually referring to false gods. Yetmany of these same COGs will sing some Protestant songs as if they are good for worship of the true God! The same cognitive dissonance as on Thanksgiving Day.
The song Candy Man sounds great for kids about the one who creates a sunrise, but really refers to one who sells drugs to get high on. And thus Satan. While certainly not a worship song, you can see Satan’s ploy in it, so he appears like God.
False worship songs please men and not God (Gal 1:10). We are warned to avoid another or false gospel (1:6-7). Including false gospel music even if it sounds like it is from an angel (1:8). Listening to false gospels, either spoken or sung, can lead to our accepting another or false spirit (2 Cor 11:4).
Singing songs of praise to God may be just noise to Him or polluted sacrifices (Amos 5:23-26). God may not appreciate good songs if we are deep in sin (8:3-6,10).
He does not accept any kind of sacrifice (Mal 1:8). Some special music performers admit they are tempted to choose songs for applause (when allowed) instead of more meaningful ones. By trying to please men, God may not be pleased.
Should we look to the unconverted to compose God-inspired hymns? Paul warned of self-seekers, lovers of pleasure more than God with only a form of religion (2 Tim 3:4-5)
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Beware of the Homo Handshake:
http://www.examiner.com/article/landover-baptist-church-cracks-the-secret-homo-handshake
Beware of men in the Restored Church of God that use this handshake on you when you show up to church the first time. I stopped attending Flurry's group because too many men were doing this to me!
The COGs' fixation with Nimrod is a bit funny, considering how little the Bible says about him.
I especially like the Internet prooftexts. Patrick isn't derived from "pater" (father), its derived from patrician (nobleman)!
Jan Young is right!
Music composed by sinners is EVIL!
Im not going to listen to any more music from ANYONE who has ever masturbated, looked at a member of the opposite sex with a "fond eye", or
who has used profanity, or scratched their rear end.
IM SURE GOING TO MISS MUSIC!
Luv,
Joe Moeller
Cody, WY
(2014 UCG Council- Write In Candidate)
Anonymous March 20, 2014 at 8:52 AM:
"I especially like the Internet prooftexts. Patrick isn't derived from "pater" (father), its derived from patrician (nobleman)!"
Right you are, Anonymous. However, did you notice that "patrician" is derived from "pater"?
Not that it makes any difference really. Etymology is no reliable guide to a word's current meaning. And it absolutely can not indicate that a word is wicked. Only the intent of the person using the word as part of a message can be wicked. Matter of fact, the same principle holds for all the other symbols the COGs get so irate about.
Symbols (including words) are tools for transmitting meaning. There's an old saying, "It's a poor workman who blames his tools." We can paraphrase that saying as, "It's a poor moralist who attributes evil to symbols."
Joe Moeller,
I notice you are a "2014 UCG Council- Write In Candidate"!
What are the requirements to vote?
I hope things have changed, but last I heard, ZERO women in the UCG are allowed to vote, and ZERO people in the UCG who aren't UCG Elders are allowed to vote.
It seems a rather cloistered system.
Have things changed, and is there any reason that your often used self-description as a "2014 UCG Council- Write In Candidate" makes any sense here?
Luv,
Lussenwide
Jan Young rags on the "CANDY MAN" in his posting here and at "The Journal" . Seriously, how "out there" can you get!
In honor of Jan, here is a remade song version JUST FOR HIM! ....
Sing along to the tune "The Candy Man"...
Who can take a nice song,
sprinkle it with spew
Cover it with crap
and a stupid comment or two
The Jan Young Man Can, oh the Jan Young Man can
The JanYoung Man can 'cause he mixes it with hate and makes the world look screwed.
Who can take a pretty chorus,
wrap it in a sigh
Soak it in depression so as to make a grown man cry
The Jan Young Man Cam, yes, the Jan Young Man can
The Jan Young Man can 'cause he mixes it with hate
and makes the world looked screwed.
The Jan Young Man, he makes everything he writes dis-satisfying and malicious...
Now don't talk about your childhood wishes,
You can't even have birthday kisses.
Luv,
Joe Moeller
Cody, WY
How can Onward Christian Soldiers be a Civil War song? The words were written in 1865 and the music in 1871. The war ended in early 1865.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onward,_Christian_Soldiers
Had I not defied the church through my musical tastes, there would now be a deep angst tormenting me, and a feeling that I'd really missed out on one of life's great experiences. Rock music has really provided an enriching soundtrack to life, through radio, recordings, and live performances. Jan Young is simply one more person who is missing out!
The only way in which Armstrong can appear to make sense is by making it be the only thing left after you kill the joy in everything else. It's why depression is such a pandemic throughout the ACOGs, and must be treated as part of the recovery of ex-members before they can get on with their lives. They caused it!
BB
Pity, it seems that Jan Aaron Young was too narrow-minded to have enjoyed the experience of seeing k.d. lang singing Hallelujah at the opening ceremony of the 2010 Winter Olympic Games in Vancouver, which had a TV audience of about 3 billion people.
-Norm
AM I glad to see I'm not the only one who didn't care much for Dwight Armstrong hymns.
Liked Joel's version of "The Candy Man" :)
Women still not allowed to vote in UCG? They can vote during elections though? Oh no, wait ...
"Women still not allowed to vote in UCG? They can vote during elections though?"
The UCG allows women to vote- but only NOT during elections, so the men can laugh abut the non-validity of their wives' votes.
BTW, the UCG also allows men who are in their church to vote, but only so the Elders can laugh abut the non-validity of those votes, too.
(You see, in the United Church of God, only Elders get to vote- and it's only for other Elders.)
What is a lesbian? In these people's minds, do they differentiate based on number of acts, fantasies entertained, stuff that happens to someone in jail, or is forced on them as a child? Or does one kissing or dining experience forever freeze the individual's orientation?
Also, it seems incredibly silly to reject a semi-religious patriotic song because it was penned by a "lesbian", yet totally immerse oneself in a religion started by someone who forced incest on his daughter for a longer period of time than most marriages last. It's like equating a few seasonal sniffles with ebola! Something doesn't compute here, but then it's a given that a mind that can accept Armstrongism does not function too terribly logically.
BB
It is all about isolating people. Cutting them off from mainstream society in order to make them listen to the would be cult leader, like this pathetic imitator of HWA.
Demonizing common things and indoctrinating people to hate them is a means to isolate Armstrongites from society in order to exploit them more effectively.
If a person chose to shun these and any other similar kinds of music then that person will become dependent upon whoever forbids these types of music.
Also learning to avoid forbidden music also teaches people to ignore any information that may cause them to question giving allegiance to their leader.
Exactly BB! Why is it wrong to sing an otherwise unimpeachable song, because it was written by a "lesbian," OH BUT IT'S OKAY to follow in the footsteps of a cult that taught heretical doctrines that was begun by and still worships as it's cult figure not jesus, but a pedophile?
It boggles the mind how the "faithful" pick their cherries...
RFLOL! @ Joe Moeller and the "Candy Man" parody!
...for that matter, how bout columns holding up Armstrong Auditorium AKA God's House, and that "G" over the minister's head in Orting WA...
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/5o5.htm
old EXPCG hag said...
...for that matter, how bout columns holding up Armstrong Auditorium AKA God's House, and that "G" over the minister's head in Orting WA...
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/5o5.htm
March 21, 2014 at 10:08 PM
Oops, try this...
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/5o5.htm
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