Sunday, December 16, 2018

Do I Hate/Despise Bob Thiel?


Charlie says:

"Anonymous Charlie said...
I used to think Gary had a hatred for what Bob Thiel but it has become obvious it’s a hatred for not only what he says but a hatred for the man himself that seems to go way back and can do nothing but slam him in everything he says about him, name calling like a little child to other childish comments."

 
I have absolutely no hated towards Bob Thiel as a person.  He may be a wonderfully nice person, as some here have claimed. COG members who have been conditioned by church leaders to regard anyone who left the church as bitter or under the influence of Satan, so that is what people immediately assume.  Nothing could be further from the truth. These lies were only methods of control they used to keep church members in line and spouting the party line.  

If you read the horrific stories on Facebook groups of the vile actions of COG leaders and ministers in how they treated members, it is quite obvious God was never part of their lives or the church they represent. 

I have spent over 40 years here in Pasadena watching various men and women come and go as they set themselves up as prophets, apostles and church leaders.  Every single one of them have been inveterate liars and frauds.  I have watched as these liars have ripped churches, families, and marriages apart all for their own self-serving glory. God was no more a part of placing them in those positions than he was in doubly blessing and setting Thiel apart as a new splinter group leader.  

Rod Meredith was quite specific in ensuring that Thiel was NOT to be ordained.  He knew where Thiel’s heart ultimately lay. Rest assured, Meredith's character was not one with outstanding virtue either. We watched in Pasadena as he horrifically reigned as head of Church Administration and how he ripped marriages apart, destroyed families and humiliated ministers and members with outrageous lies and claims as he disfellowshipped people on a whim.  

There is not one single shred of evidence that God had anything to do with Theil's self-ordination or setting him apart as a leader of the end time church.  All of the dreams in the world by nice men and women do not make them God’s instruments. Sadly, the god of Armstrongism has been relegated to a position of sheer impotence as these men and women have designed him/it into what they imagine him/it to be. They have prostituted themselves out to the law while denying Jesus and anything he came to do. There have been a lot of graceless religious groups in the world over the years, but Armstrong’s hundreds of groups seem to consistently top the list.

Thiel writes about hundreds and hundreds of ultimately useless topics each week that he believes his followers need to know about. All this has done is prove he has no Godly focus other than his desire to be known as an authority on every esoteric point imaginable, EXCEPT  of course, for that inconvenient dude that embarrasses the hell out of him and most COG leaders.

The sad part is that he has conned over 3,800 African followers with his nonsense.  These are people who could care less about 99% of the silly topics he writes about every week. They face lives of struggling to feed themselves, keep roofs over their heads, and surviving tribal warfare from other groups or Muslims. Do they really care if the Boy Scouts may be headed to bankruptcy or whether the Swiss may be descended from Gad? Yellowstone geysers leading to Gog and Magog?  WTH!!!!  WHO CARES! Jesus doesn't!

Those that came into the presence of Jesus were overpowered by grace, they melted at his grace and mercy. Do you see any of that coming from Bob Thiel? Did Jesus spend his time being interviewed on conspiracy theory networks talking about useless crap? 

It is really no wonder that Thiel is only able to garner less than 200 people from COG groups in the United States, Canada, Europe and South Africa.  COG members have seen numerous other false COG leaders like him rise up over the decades and lead people astray.  It is hard enough dealing with the leaders of their own groups than to put up with the heretical nonsense of Bob Thiel.

So, no, I do not hate or despise Bob Thiel, but you can rest assured I and many others here will continue to call him out for his steaming pile of heretical crap and label it for what it truly is. 

Bullshit!


28 comments:

Anonymous said...

Apparently, Charlie don't surf the Web enough to have good judgment about this matter.

Anonymous said...

Is hate always evil? God hated Esau.

Lake of Fire Church of God said...

Well said Gary! Almost arrested Doctorate from mail order degree mill Elijah Prophet Bitter Bobby Thiel has excummunicated Jesus and thrown him out of the Church of God. Richard

Anonymous said...

I've e-mailed back and forth with Bob a few times through the years and always found him to be pleasant. He is no Rod Meredith, that's for sure.

Anonymous said...

I have NEVER been to an ACOG and yet through the many years of living here in Glendora , California I have known many people, many of whom have become friends, that were or still apart of the ACOG and none of their ministers have influenced me. If & when I comment here it is me telling from my point of view by what I have observed.

Hoss said...

If Bob and I had been fellow tithe slaves in the WCG/GCG/LCG, I would hope that my criticism would not have extended beyond Spokesman's Club. But this is not the case, and he has set himself up as the true heir of the end-time remnant of the one and only Mythical True Church. As such, he made himself the rightful recipient of challenge and critique.
In Hebraic thought, one is not the holder of an office by what one claims to be, but how they behave and what they do. But instead of saying Who do you think I am? Bob only repeats Why don't you believe I'm who I say I am?.

Unknown said...

I might not always like the way how this site sometimes mock People within the COGs or even the angle some of the articles take, however I never got the impression that the posters hated anyone in the COGs just because they find the system vile and criticize it. I remember when I started questioning my Cog(lcg) how I was cautioned about bitterness for being critical of wrong doings, that appraoch shocked me, no one would listen to my concerns(not even close friends) even though they knew they were genuine. I believe I would have probably be still in the church today if they would of simply just listen and stop acting like zombies and ascribing bitterness to any critical view. We are told to prove all things but when that proving leads to a different conclusion than what the church teaches,they all of a sudden claim that they are most likely right and you are wrong.

Byker Bob said...

I’ve recently examined my attitudes towards different people, and found that the attitudes become more intense in direct proportion to the influence the people have over my day to day life. Bob Theil and the other ACOG charlatans have absolutely zero influence at this point. They are very distant cartoon characters who simply teach things that are toxic and reprehensible. I certainly wish better things for those who for some reason would choose to follow them, but then again, there are consequences for virtually all of the choices we as individuals make in life. Why accept a totally arbitrary entire layer of mid-level management in one’s life? It’s just so unnecessary.

My main concern right now is the toxic person sitting in the White House. Our president is doing much much more damage to our economy, our reputation as a solid ally and trade partner, the compassionate character of our nation as a whole, and our freedoms. On a damage scale of 1-10, Donald Trump is a 9, and Bob Thiel is negligible, probably below a 1.

BB

Anonymous said...

Unknown: yep - should be prove my things.

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Anonymous said...


Byker Bob on December 17, 2018 at 7:50 AM said...“My main concern right now is the toxic person sitting in the White House.”


Relax Byker Bob. Hitlery did not make it into the White House. Some all-American hero saved the day.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUvfZj-Fm0

Anonymous said...


If you really want to hate one of the false prophets, then let them waste your time and money and let them ruin your life. Then you will probably hate them. The more evil that you let them do to you and to your family, the more you will probably hate them. Otherwise, you might seldom even think about them.

Those who listen to, believe, trust, and support Flurry or Pack or Weinland or Thiel are the ones most at risk of hating them if they ever smarten up later and realise what they have done.

Unknown said...

Thiel is mentally unsound, and his delusional self ordination is just one example , and his claim to being a prophet being another.

Crazy people need to be monitored and watched carefully. They are capable of doing and inflicting great harm, often coming way out from "right field". He is NOT of a sound mind.

Whatever you think about Thiel... keep him the heck away from the "nuclear button", for he will surely push it just to see his "darn prophecies" come true!

Anonymous said...

"There is not one single shred of evidence that God had anything to do with Theil's self-ordination or setting him apart as a leader of the end time church. All of the dreams in the world by nice men and women do not make them God’s instruments."

"Stupid is as stupid does." —Forrest Gump
"By their fruits you shall know them." —Matthew 7:16

Nice is as nice does. I harbor few doubts Thiel comports himself with a "nice" and civil demeanor. But is that sufficient to make him a good person? What are Bob's fruits?

Theil's behavior shows, first of all, that he is a shameless liar, and second, that the things he tends to lie about most incessantly are egotistical claims about his own identity. Anyone who tells you that he's a character written about in an ancient text either suffers from a mental illness, he's a pretty outrageous conman, or both. If he were honest, he'd have to admit that there's no evidence that any of his fantastical and improbable claims he makes about himself are actually true. But honest and humble are two words that do not describe Bob Thiel. And here's another three words that don't describe him, high moral character because these are not the things good, moral people do. It's clear that the only thing that keeps his overweening ego in check is his own modest abilities.

Sure, Bob might present a face to the public of a good person, but that's just his sheep's clothing you're seeing. His behavior shows he's just another ravening wolf whose base desires and instincts are hobbled only by his incompetence.

Anonymous said...

No hater will ever admit to be a hater. Oh,no,I don't hate him/them, not at all I am actually a warm, loving, compassionate person who just hate to see injustices, etc. Sure. No doubt about that. Everyone believes you.

Anonymous said...

My main concern right now is the toxic person sitting in the White House.

Your main concern should be the toxic media that can't stop lying and demonizing the guy in the White House. You are clearly an unthinking puppet-zombie of the media hate machine.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone hate Trump? Bill Gates? Commies? Nazis? Tax collectors? Come on, admit it. You do have hate. All of you.

TLA said...

Trump like all politicians has his good and bad. Just wish he would not be so loud about it.
Plus the whole world is in chaos - fortunately Germany does not realize they are the Assyrians who really are Babylonians (it is Babylon the great that falls).

Maybe Dennis with his new insights can explain to us how Assyria is Babylon - did they ever cover that in the ministerial conferences how prophecies about Assyria applied to Babylon in Revelation?

Anonymous said...

Tricycle Bob can't handle the truth. He isn't man enough to take it all in. LMAO

Anonymous said...

So, Anon10:48, if you accuse someone of being a "hater," then they automatically are one?

Because there's no possible defense. If they DO admit to being a hater, then, obviously, they're a hater, but also if they DON'T admit to it, then they're still a hater. And, what then, everyone believes you?

Nice little witch hunt you got going on here. Lemme see if I get how it works.

You're a troll. Don't bother trying to deny it, because no one will ever admit to being a troll. "Oh,no, I'm not a troll, not at all I am actually a warm, loving, compassionate person who just hate to see injustices, etc." Sure. No doubt about that.

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Anonymous said...

"Because there's no possible defense."

Well, it depends on the EVIDENCE. Not the allegation or admission. Duh.

Anonymous said...

considering what this blog claims to be about, i.e. going after the cogs for their wrong doings and financial excesses, it seems its coverage of thiel is more personal and often borderlines on the absurd...

c f ben yochanan

Yes and No to HWA said...

TLA wrote:

“Maybe Dennis with his new insights can explain to us how Assyria is Babylon”.

Ge 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
Ge 10:11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah (AV).

Ge 10:10 The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Erech, Akkad and Calneh, in Shinar.
Ge 10:11 From that land he went to Assyria, where he built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah (AV).

John H. Sailhammer explains it this way:

"The deliberate association of Assyria with Babylon (vv.10-12) is also significant... By means of this narrative insertion, then, the author has not only introduced a key city, Babylon, but has taken Assyria out of its natural associations ... and given it a new identification with the city of Babylon. Thus the author has opened the way for an association and identification of any city with the city of Babylon. These appear to be the initial stirrings of a "larger than life" symbolic value for the city of Babylon, one known in the Book of Isaiah (chs.13-14, where Assyria is identified with Babylon) and fully developed in the image of "MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT" in Revelation 17:5). The prophet Micah can already speak of Assyria as the "land of Nimrod" (Micah 5:6)" (Genesis, EBC, (Grand Rapids: Zonervan, 1990), Vol.2, pp.100-01).

Byker Bob said...

How could coverage of an absurd individual not be absurd?

BB

Anonymous said...

Ha ha ha. This whole website is a troll. What are you doing, creating something, designing something, no, you are just trolling COGs and throwing rocks. You don't actually build anything, you are obviously incapable. All you can do is try to destroy, or at least scratch a little, what others are building. Too bad you can't change your name to trollspot.com ha ha ha.

Enoch

Unknown said...

As they say in the Cogs ...Why are you here? Lol.

Charlie said...

Gary; maybe I was a little harsh in my comment (s) but I will check things out a lot further before I speak too soon, but I do want to say one thing. Thank you for letting me say what I wanted even though you disagreed and even though much of what I said may have been wrong. And thanks for staying in control and not slamming me. I’ll keep checking Mr. Thiel out although one thing I can’t do is listen to his speaking and waving his arm, he really ought to get someone else to say what he wants said. Thanks again.
Charlie....