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If they get bored with a Sabbath that runs from sundown to sundown, how do you think that they'd react to a Sabbath that never ends? (In other words, the real one)
Friday nights, in my experience on a dig at Megiddo, in Tel Aviv, is party hardy town. Jerusalem shuts down. In Jerusalem, the Rabbis were freaking out over McDonalds serving cheese burgers and drove them out. In Tel Aviv they couldn't get enough. You know, boiling a calf in its mother's milk. At that time, the man thought to be the Messiah also died so they just said, "oops, wrong again and moved on."
This poll appears to show that Passover is the one that stays with those who grew up with it. Some for religious reasons. Some for nice memories and Some just out of habit. The few that don't probably think it's pagan.
Eating Kosher seems to linger no matter as well which, like the former WCG types, reflects the basic attitude that it's not good for anyone ever and is a "health issue". Whether pork or beef is "better" a debate but both have their pluses. However if one ever "Meets their meat" in production, we'd probably have real second thoughts.
Passover is a part of the picture for Jews as Christmas is for Christians it seems. Most keep for religious reasons. Many for good memories. Some out of habit and a few don't because it is pagan to them or they just don't care.
Stav Bartel, Israeli-Jew from Tel Aviv. Secular Atheist
This answer is based on a social survey made by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics in 2010[1]
The Jewish population is divided into five religious groups: (So is Christianity and the Churches of God got that beat)
Ultra-Orthodox (Haredim) - 9% Orthodox (Datiyim) - 10% Religious Traditionals- (Masortiyim Datiyim) - 14% Not So Religious Traditionals - 24% Secular (Hilonim) - 43%
6% of Jews claimed they don’t keep any Jewish traditions. 31% said they keep some traditions (במידה מועטה) while 38% said they keep many traditions oftenly (במידה רבה) and 25% keep all traditions all the time (במידה רבה מאוד).
The Ultra-Orthodox and the Orthodox (19% of the Jewish population) keep all rituals and observe all rules. Only 1% of the Orthodox claimed they don’t keep all rituals and traditions very often (במידה מועטה).
The next part examines the non- Orthodox communities (81% of the Jewish population). Don’t drive in Shabbat: 46% of the religious, 7% of the not so religious and 2% of the seculars.
Build a Sukka in Sukkot: 59% of the religious, 34% of the not so religious and 17% of the seculars.
Observe Kosher laws: 82% of the religious, 43% of the not so religious and 10% of the seculars.
Fast on Yom Kippur: 87% of the religious, 69% of the not so religious and 26% of the seculars.
Observe Passover dietary restrictions: 90% of the religious, 68% of the not so religious and 22% of the seculars.
Light candles on Shabbat eve (Friday night): 92% of the religious, 68% of the not so religious and 29% of the seculars.
Hold a Passover eve Seder: 98% of the religious, 93% of the not so religious and 82% of the seculars.
Since you're not able to read minds you've given proof once again that all the bad that you claim that was in the WCG was actually the way you thought and acted. Apparently "you" couldn't wait for the Sabbath to end.
You are all such fools, and once again this won't get posted because it counters your narrative!
This reminds me of some people in the COG(7D) who would watch their sunset calendar so they could turn on the television the minute after the Sabbath was over to watch a hockey game.
well, if they're looking forward to the end of the Sabbath, one might wonder if they are truly IN the Church....they treat the Sabbath as a burden to bear and can't wait for it to be over.
Growing up Sunday always began after Midnight on Saturday night after you did pretty much what you wanted and ended sometime around The Wonderful World of Disney or at most Bonanza.
Growing up Presbyterian, Sunday always began at midnight, depending when you got home Saturday night and ended Sunday evening somewhere around The Wonderful World of Disney or Bonanza max. Sunday morning church, Sunday School, Sunday Evening Church plus Young Adults stuff after that, was quite enough. Catechism class after school on Tuesdays was what you better not show up late for or try to get out of early. But I always got home in time for the Mickey Mouse Club at 5. God only knows what I would have done had Spin and Marty or the Hardy Boys been on Sunday Afternoons!
As a kid unfortunate enough to have a parent involved with WCG, I always dreaded the arrival of Saturday. Get up early, put on uncomfortable clothes, take a long car ride, sing some clunky dirges, then sit still for hours on steel chairs in sweltering building (sometimes only to hear a crackly tape recording), wait around until parent was done talking with extremely boring people (several of whom have doused themselves in the most cloying perfumes imaginable in an attempt to mask how they have been stewing in their own sweat for several hours), another long car ride, hope that all your friends haven't already made plans for the night without you by the time you finally get back. Whee, how joyous.
The Sabbath is a burden if you have to drive an hour to services and then listen to boring orators (what a laugh) for two hours and then drive back home.
Hmmm, is it the Sabbath that's the burden or the Pharisaical rules?
It was never real clear to me how exactly I was to keep the sabbath. The result of this murkiness was a great deal of guilt. I was always thinking of all the "stuff" I had to do after sunset this also contributed to quilt. Realizing that I didn't have to keep the sabbath relieved me of the burden of guilt. Every day seemed more of a joy after I realized I didn't have to pretend to joyfully keep a day holy. The burden of guilt I experienced every sabbath was lifted from my back. The real joy has come from discontinuing keeping the sabbath. How ironic!
For me the sabbath was more work and trouble and finally I just gave up with the realization that my life was what it was and I came to terms with that regardless of anyone else thought. When my girls were small I was a single working mom with a home and dog as well to take care of. I would get off work, get on the bus for an hour going down the freeway, get my kids from day care, stop at the store to get dinner, it was already after sundown, and get home. When home, fed the kids and dog, had to do laundry so we could have clean clothes for church, get the kids in the tub and then to bed. I would be so exhausted. Got married to a man in the church, moved to his area, he wanted company every weekend over for dinner after church. Guess who had to plan the meals, cook, serve and then clean up after everyone on the sabbath? I gave up, there wasn't much joy for me in it.
Sabbath keeping is a farce and leaves everyone who tries to keep it feeling guilty. It's based on a creation lie that's totally ridiculous and only intended to keep one subservient to self-serving religious overlords. I'm writing this at the beginning of that arbitrarily chosen day of the week and I couldn't care less what I might do tomorrow. I'm not going to let any non-existent god bother me. Got a roof repair to oversee in the morning and then, I'll probably take in some Saturday yard sales. Prices go down late on Saturday.
Anon5:24 AM said... "Since you're not able to read minds you've given proof once again that all the bad that you claim that was in the WCG was actually the way you thought and acted. Apparently 'you' couldn't wait for the Sabbath to end."
Accuses us of projecting.
"You are all such fools, and once again this won't get posted because it counters your narrative!"
Then does the very thing he just accused us of doing. LOL!
Obviously he thought it wouldn't get posted because he knew he'd never allow anything that countered his narrative if he could stop it. Tried to read minds and failed! LOL!
I'm tryng to think back. That was like 45 years ago. Because of the sabbath transpiring within a specific time frame, and because there was special behavior associated with that time frame, it was difficult not to be just as cognizant of its ending as it was its beginning. However, I don't recall making the weekly sabbath into a Day of Atonement style countdown in which I was enduring to the end, after which I got to have that life-sustaining drink of water. DoA was always a countdown, because it was affliction of the soul. Like most members, I fasted for spiritual reasons several times per year, and occasionally kept journals of my fasts. The longest I ever went without food and water was 48 hours. From what I understand now, you can induce severe medical problems by going too long without water.
I suppose that the more spiritually developed individuals have it constantly on their minds that they are complying with rituals in an effort to be pleasing to God, as opposed to just going through the motions because the church said you had to do it, and you wanted to make it to the place of safety. There are different levels to these things, and I wonder how many were actually operating on higher levels.
Did you ever think that my last sentence of "and once again this won't get posted because it counters your narrative!" was merely to get it posted? After all, now you all can joke around about how wrong I was since it got posted, but my point was made, everything that you accuse others of doing is what you did while still in the cult.
"Certainly this gets magnified on the "Day of Atonement" . It gets down to not just the minute, but the very SECOND! LOL!
I have never found anyone who has said "I have appreciated this opportunity so much, that I think I will do a second day of this!"."
Would you believe I know a guy that would start his Atonement fast half a day before and would make his case with others that we need to afflict our souls and just doing the bare minimum of what God requires (24 hours) is just being that "unprofitable servant." This nut was also later put out for telling people eating out on the Sabbath was the mark of the beast. Modern pharisees are everywhere. It's been members like this in the COG's that have helped me to become critical about everything, not just the corporate thugs.
6:11, Gary doesn't censor posts like yours. First, it's self-obvious that opinions expressed are based on an individual's own perspectives and opinions, which is why this site is so rich in diversity and debate. It's those who become annoying and offensive because they are obtuse and harp on a singular agenda that run the risk of censorship, like trading guy, Nazi boy, and Ben Yohochbanon. Some allow the reactions of others to educate them, to round out the rough edges, and they eventually become valued and effective contributors. Others just seem to have bizarre filters, and are incapable of modifying or controlling their manner of expression. They are perpetual misfits here in our classroom, who never strike a common thread. I imagine that each of us is capable of being an occasional provocateur or contrarian as you were with your 5:24 comment. Occasional, like salt. Unfortunately, your final sentence in the 6:11 comment indicates that you fundamentally object to the very basis for this blog, and have contempt for all who post here. And, most of us have grown way past the things we did in the cult. It's why we can stand back and critique not only the practices, but also ourselves for having participated in the first place.
Depth, my friend! Details. The gray material between the black and white to which we were blinded as COGlodytes. Most of us can now perceive the gray. As Ronny VanZant used to always ask in the live version of Freebiird, "How 'bout you???"
"Modern pharisees are everywhere. It's been members like this in the COG's that have helped me to become critical about everything, not just the corporate thugs."
That's why the book says not to let any man take your crown. By allowing ignorant people like those pharasaical whom you speak of pull you away from God, that's exactly what you are doing.
Anon6:11AM said... "Did you ever think that my last sentence of 'and once again this won't get posted because it counters your narrative!' was merely to get it posted?"
Let's break this down...
You claiming that your interpretation of events is that you knowingly told a lie, and that you did it just for it's manipulative effect? And furthermore, the proof that your manipulation was successful is the fact that the untruth of your statement was proven?
This might not be Gary's interpretation of why he let it through. It might not be any other observer's calculation of what most probably happened. But you at least claim this interpretation to be your own. Your ad hoc "justification" doesn't seem all that that probable to me either. But nevertheless, it's significant that you claim it. So that leaves no charitible explanation left, either you're lying now, or you were lying then.
Who else but a troll and a sociopath comes to a blog and boasts that he's manipulating everyone there, boasts about how he shamelessly and purposefully lies to them, and then insults them all? As if we were the bad actors here?
Next time you find yourself in a hole, you might want to stop digging? Just a thought?
This gets a little confusing when we try to address the original purpose. Why not recognize that everyone has a different view of things. We know the bible is the source of the Christian Faith. We know that everyone accepting Christ as Lord and Savior accepts it on Faith. This Faith requires a belief of the written word which points out that all human life is doomed to die. The NT points out that Jesus introduced a life after this life's death. It is qualifying for this hope that is disputed. I believe each individual has a personal responsibility to seeks God's help through fellowship and prayer. Anyone who attempts to convince they have the solution will cause problems. Each person should live their life as close as possible to the written word and show God's love to all people by the way they life rather than how they think they are living.
January 11 at 11:54 AM rudely asks, "Where the hell did I say everyone here? I said you all. Again, learn to read!"
Anon 11:54, "everyone here" is is the standard literal meaning of "you all." In some dialects, "you all" is simply the plural "you," without necessarily implying a complete census, but if that is what you meant, you should not ridicule anybody for reading it the other way.
Instead of yapping at others to learn to read, you should learn to write. That skill requires the writer to be aware of ambiguity and either disambiguate it or exploit it stylistically. Responding like a snotty teenager is not stylistically effective. It irritates us adults.
Yeah, 11:51, I participated in, and perpetuated a cult! But, while I was so doing, I was working under the assumption that it was "God's True Church". Now, I know better, and have repudiated all of those activities. As others have pointed out, you had to have been there in order for you to be where you are today. Honestly, today, I'm gloating over the awesome bottom end performance my new S & S Super E carburetor has given my bike. PapPap wasn't doing this sort of thing when he was my present age, so I have to thank the cult for my continued zest in life!
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If they get bored with a Sabbath that runs from sundown to sundown, how do you think that they'd react to a Sabbath that never ends? (In other words, the real one)
I've read that in Israel, it's common for young people to go out and celebrate the end of the Sabbath.
Friday nights, in my experience on a dig at Megiddo, in Tel Aviv, is party hardy town. Jerusalem shuts down. In Jerusalem, the Rabbis were freaking out over McDonalds serving cheese burgers and drove them out. In Tel Aviv they couldn't get enough. You know, boiling a calf in its mother's milk. At that time, the man thought to be the Messiah also died so they just said, "oops, wrong again and moved on."
This poll appears to show that Passover is the one that stays with those who grew up with it. Some for religious reasons. Some for nice memories and Some just out of habit. The few that don't probably think it's pagan.
Eating Kosher seems to linger no matter as well which, like the former WCG types, reflects the basic attitude that it's not good for anyone ever and is a "health issue". Whether pork or beef is "better" a debate but both have their pluses. However if one ever "Meets their meat" in production, we'd probably have real second thoughts.
Passover is a part of the picture for Jews as Christmas is for Christians it seems. Most keep for religious reasons. Many for good memories. Some out of habit and a few don't because it is pagan to them or they just don't care.
Stav Bartel, Israeli-Jew from Tel Aviv. Secular Atheist
This answer is based on a social survey made by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics in 2010[1]
The Jewish population is divided into five religious groups:
(So is Christianity and the Churches of God got that beat)
Ultra-Orthodox (Haredim) - 9%
Orthodox (Datiyim) - 10%
Religious Traditionals- (Masortiyim Datiyim) - 14%
Not So Religious Traditionals - 24%
Secular (Hilonim) - 43%
6% of Jews claimed they don’t keep any Jewish traditions. 31% said they keep some traditions (במידה מועטה) while 38% said they keep many traditions oftenly (במידה רבה) and 25% keep all traditions all the time (במידה רבה מאוד).
The Ultra-Orthodox and the Orthodox (19% of the Jewish population) keep all rituals and observe all rules. Only 1% of the Orthodox claimed they don’t keep all rituals and traditions very often (במידה מועטה).
The next part examines the non- Orthodox communities (81% of the Jewish population).
Don’t drive in Shabbat: 46% of the religious, 7% of the not so religious and 2% of the seculars.
Build a Sukka in Sukkot: 59% of the religious, 34% of the not so religious and 17% of the seculars.
Observe Kosher laws: 82% of the religious, 43% of the not so religious and 10% of the seculars.
Fast on Yom Kippur: 87% of the religious, 69% of the not so religious and 26% of the seculars.
Observe Passover dietary restrictions: 90% of the religious, 68% of the not so religious and 22% of the seculars.
Light candles on Shabbat eve (Friday night): 92% of the religious, 68% of the not so religious and 29% of the seculars.
Hold a Passover eve Seder: 98% of the religious, 93% of the not so religious and 82% of the seculars.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-of-the-Israeli-Jewish-population-keep-key-rituals-of-Judaism
Rather, Passover seems more like the Jewish Thanksgiving.
Since you're not able to read minds you've given proof once again that all the bad that you claim that was in the WCG was actually the way you thought and acted. Apparently "you" couldn't wait for the Sabbath to end.
You are all such fools, and once again this won't get posted because it counters your narrative!
Certainly this gets magnified on the "Day of Atonement" . It gets down to not just the minute, but the very SECOND! LOL!
I have never found anyone who has said "I have appreciated this opportunity so much, that I think I will do a second day of this!".
This reminds me of some people in the COG(7D) who would watch their sunset calendar so they could turn on the television the minute after the Sabbath was over to watch a hockey game.
well, if they're looking forward to the end of the Sabbath, one might wonder if they are truly IN the Church....they treat the Sabbath as a burden to bear and can't wait for it to be over.
6.26 AM
Listening to boring sermons is a burden.
Growing up Sunday always began after Midnight on Saturday night after you did pretty much what you wanted and ended sometime around The Wonderful World of Disney or at most Bonanza.
Growing up Presbyterian, Sunday always began at midnight, depending when you got home Saturday night and ended Sunday evening somewhere around The Wonderful World of Disney or Bonanza max.
Sunday morning church, Sunday School, Sunday Evening Church plus Young Adults stuff after that, was quite enough. Catechism class after school on Tuesdays was what you better not show up late for or try to get out of early. But I always got home in time for the Mickey Mouse Club at 5. God only knows what I would have done had Spin and Marty or the Hardy Boys been on Sunday Afternoons!
As a kid unfortunate enough to have a parent involved with WCG, I always dreaded the arrival of Saturday. Get up early, put on uncomfortable clothes, take a long car ride, sing some clunky dirges, then sit still for hours on steel chairs in sweltering building (sometimes only to hear a crackly tape recording), wait around until parent was done talking with extremely boring people (several of whom have doused themselves in the most cloying perfumes imaginable in an attempt to mask how they have been stewing in their own sweat for several hours), another long car ride, hope that all your friends haven't already made plans for the night without you by the time you finally get back. Whee, how joyous.
The Sabbath is a burden if you have to drive an hour to services and then listen to boring orators (what a laugh) for two hours and then drive back home.
Hmmm, is it the Sabbath that's the burden or the Pharisaical rules?
No, Anon 5:24, it "got posted".
It was never real clear to me how exactly I was to keep the sabbath. The result of this murkiness was a great deal of guilt. I was always thinking of all the "stuff" I had to do after sunset this also contributed to quilt. Realizing that I didn't have to keep the sabbath relieved me of the burden of guilt. Every day seemed more of a joy after I realized I didn't have to pretend to joyfully keep a day holy. The burden of guilt I experienced every sabbath was lifted from my back. The real joy has come from discontinuing keeping the sabbath. How ironic!
For me the sabbath was more work and trouble and finally I just gave up with the realization that my life was what it was and I came to terms with that regardless of anyone else thought. When my girls were small I was a single working mom with a home and dog as well to take care of. I would get off work, get on the bus for an hour going down the freeway, get my kids from day care, stop at the store to get dinner, it was already after sundown, and get home. When home, fed the kids and dog, had to do laundry so we could have clean clothes for church, get the kids in the tub and then to bed. I would be so exhausted. Got married to a man in the church, moved to his area, he wanted company every weekend over for dinner after church. Guess who had to plan the meals, cook, serve and then clean up after everyone on the sabbath? I gave up, there wasn't much joy for me in it.
Sabbath keeping is a farce and leaves everyone who tries to keep it feeling guilty. It's based on a creation lie that's totally ridiculous and only intended to keep one subservient to self-serving religious overlords. I'm writing this at the beginning of that arbitrarily chosen day of the week and I couldn't care less what I might do tomorrow. I'm not going to let any non-existent god bother me. Got a roof repair to oversee in the morning and then, I'll probably take in some Saturday yard sales. Prices go down late on Saturday.
Anon5:24 AM said...
"Since you're not able to read minds you've given proof once again that all the bad that you claim that was in the WCG was actually the way you thought and acted. Apparently 'you' couldn't wait for the Sabbath to end."
Accuses us of projecting.
"You are all such fools, and once again this won't get posted because it counters your narrative!"
Then does the very thing he just accused us of doing. LOL!
Obviously he thought it wouldn't get posted because he knew he'd never allow anything that countered his narrative if he could stop it. Tried to read minds and failed! LOL!
Too rich!
5.24 AM
So all the bad in WCG was only imagined.
Whose the fool?
I'm tryng to think back. That was like 45 years ago. Because of the sabbath transpiring within a specific time frame, and because there was special behavior associated with that time frame, it was difficult not to be just as cognizant of its ending as it was its beginning. However, I don't recall making the weekly sabbath into a Day of Atonement style countdown in which I was enduring to the end, after which I got to have that life-sustaining drink of water. DoA was always a countdown, because it was affliction of the soul. Like most members, I fasted for spiritual reasons several times per year, and occasionally kept journals of my fasts. The longest I ever went without food and water was 48 hours. From what I understand now, you can induce severe medical problems by going too long without water.
I suppose that the more spiritually developed individuals have it constantly on their minds that they are complying with rituals in an effort to be pleasing to God, as opposed to just going through the motions because the church said you had to do it, and you wanted to make it to the place of safety. There are different levels to these things, and I wonder how many were actually operating on higher levels.
BB
Did you ever think that my last sentence of "and once again this won't get posted because it counters your narrative!" was merely to get it posted? After all, now you all can joke around about how wrong I was since it got posted, but my point was made, everything that you accuse others of doing is what you did while still in the cult.
I might be "too rich" but you all are PATHETIC!
Tonto said:
"Certainly this gets magnified on the "Day of Atonement" . It gets down to not just the minute, but the very SECOND! LOL!
I have never found anyone who has said "I have appreciated this opportunity so much, that I think I will do a second day of this!"."
Would you believe I know a guy that would start his Atonement fast half a day before and would make his case with others that we need to afflict our souls and just doing the bare minimum of what God requires (24 hours) is just being that "unprofitable servant." This nut was also later put out for telling people eating out on the Sabbath was the mark of the beast. Modern pharisees are everywhere. It's been members like this in the COG's that have helped me to become critical about everything, not just the corporate thugs.
Anonymous 1/11/20 6:11 am, if everyone here is pathetic that includes you. Why are you here?
6:11, Gary doesn't censor posts like yours. First, it's self-obvious that opinions expressed are based on an individual's own perspectives and opinions, which is why this site is so rich in diversity and debate. It's those who become annoying and offensive because they are obtuse and harp on a singular agenda that run the risk of censorship, like trading guy, Nazi boy, and Ben Yohochbanon. Some allow the reactions of others to educate them, to round out the rough edges, and they eventually become valued and effective contributors. Others just seem to have bizarre filters, and are incapable of modifying or controlling their manner of expression. They are perpetual misfits here in our classroom, who never strike a common thread. I imagine that each of us is capable of being an occasional provocateur or contrarian as you were with your 5:24 comment. Occasional, like salt. Unfortunately, your final sentence in the 6:11 comment indicates that you fundamentally object to the very basis for this blog, and have contempt for all who post here. And, most of us have grown way past the things we did in the cult. It's why we can stand back and critique not only the practices, but also ourselves for having participated in the first place.
Depth, my friend! Details. The gray material between the black and white to which we were blinded as COGlodytes. Most of us can now perceive the gray. As Ronny VanZant used to always ask in the live version of Freebiird, "How 'bout you???"
BB
At least BB admits that he played a part in making the cult a cult. Whether he meant to admit it or not I don't know but that's exactly what he did.
"Anonymous said...
Anonymous 1/11/20 6:11 am, if everyone here is pathetic that includes you. Why are you here?
January 11, 2020 at 8:26 AM"
Where the hell did I say everyone here? I said you all. Again, learn to read!
"Modern pharisees are everywhere. It's been members like this in the COG's that have helped me to become critical about everything, not just the corporate thugs."
That's why the book says not to let any man take your crown. By allowing ignorant people like those pharasaical whom you speak of pull you away from God, that's exactly what you are doing.
Anon6:11AM said...
"Did you ever think that my last sentence of 'and once again this won't get posted because it counters your narrative!' was merely to get it posted?"
Let's break this down...
You claiming that your interpretation of events is that you knowingly told a lie, and that you did it just for it's manipulative effect? And furthermore, the proof that your manipulation was successful is the fact that the untruth of your statement was proven?
This might not be Gary's interpretation of why he let it through. It might not be any other observer's calculation of what most probably happened. But you at least claim this interpretation to be your own. Your ad hoc "justification" doesn't seem all that that probable to me either. But nevertheless, it's significant that you claim it. So that leaves no charitible explanation left, either you're lying now, or you were lying then.
Who else but a troll and a sociopath comes to a blog and boasts that he's manipulating everyone there, boasts about how he shamelessly and purposefully lies to them, and then insults them all? As if we were the bad actors here?
Next time you find yourself in a hole, you might want to stop digging? Just a thought?
This gets a little confusing when we try to address the original purpose. Why not recognize that everyone has a different view of things. We know the bible is the source of the Christian Faith. We know that everyone accepting Christ as Lord and Savior accepts it on Faith. This Faith requires a belief of the written word which points out that all human life is doomed to die. The NT points out that Jesus introduced a life after this life's death. It is qualifying for this hope that is disputed. I believe each individual has a personal responsibility to seeks God's help through fellowship and prayer. Anyone who attempts to convince they have the solution will cause problems. Each person should live their life as close as possible to the written word and show God's love to all people by the way they life rather than how they think they are living.
8:18
Ahh the good ol’ days of my sweet childhood!😌
January 11 at 11:54 AM rudely asks, "Where the hell did I say everyone here? I said you all. Again, learn to read!"
Anon 11:54, "everyone here" is is the standard literal meaning of "you all." In some dialects, "you all" is simply the plural "you," without necessarily implying a complete census, but if that is what you meant, you should not ridicule anybody for reading it the other way.
Instead of yapping at others to learn to read, you should learn to write. That skill requires the writer to be aware of ambiguity and either disambiguate it or exploit it stylistically. Responding like a snotty teenager is not stylistically effective. It irritates us adults.
Yeah, 11:51, I participated in, and perpetuated a cult! But, while I was so doing, I was working under the assumption that it was "God's True Church". Now, I know better, and have repudiated all of those activities. As others have pointed out, you had to have been there in order for you to be where you are today. Honestly, today, I'm gloating over the awesome bottom end performance my new S & S Super E carburetor has given my bike. PapPap wasn't doing this sort of thing when he was my present age, so I have to thank the cult for my continued zest in life!
BB
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