Death Wish
David C. Pack of The Restored Church of God is preoccupied with death. Whether it is about who he knows the Three Shepherds of Zechariah 11 to be or the Lake of Fire being “put to good use” to punish his perceived enemies. More ominously, he has been mentioning his own.
By his desperate attempts to convince himself and the membership how on track he is, he shows no fear of God, mingling the correctness of his new teachings with his own death.
He would be better off saying, “I swear to God this is true.” Instead, he cursed himself twice. He is absolutely unaware that by invoking God’s authority to give a sermon, anything he says from the lectern is "under oath," so to speak.
During “The Greatest Untold Story! (Part 421)” on February 18, he taught the Kingdom to Israel would be exactly one month long. That “one month” had fluctuated from shorter to longer and back. But, during Part 421, it was precisely 30 days. That would never be changed.
Part 421 – February 18, 2023
@ 59:41 But it cannot change the duration of the month. I will die before I believe otherwise.
Days later, he extended one month to mean at least 33 ½ days with more to be added. It turns out he could change the duration of the month and believed otherwise.
This was the first self-curse.
One week later, Part 423 solidified the Day of the Lord would begin on April 21 at sunset, which begins the Hebrew month of Iyar. The previous Day of the Lord teaching was that it would start on Abib.
David C. Pack needed to counter the doubts of his audience after weeks of teaching the wrong month, so he felt compelled to utter a second, “I swear to God this is true.”
Part 423 – February 25, 2023
@ 29:41 So, I wanna state one last time, unequivocally, and I’ll just absolutely die on this ground. This is the hill I die on. It is impossible that Abib does not close with the Day of the Lord. Impossible. It’s unbiblical.
The last moment of Abib is on April 21 at 8:12 PM ET. This was the second self-curse.
There should have been little surprise when he did this a third time during Part 426.
Part 426 – March 4, 2023
@ 42:23 I know that the way has been prepared, and we all understand, and if we had to wait ten years, or until I died, no one will ever tell me we don’t have this exactly right.
The day and the hour for the return of Jesus Christ were no longer unknown. During the period known as Purim or Esther's Fast, Jesus Christ would return the Kingdom to Israel and go back into heaven, leaving an invisible Elijah the Prophet in charge of announcing the revised gospel to the world.
For it to be “exactly right,” the Kingdom to Israel should have begun Monday morning at 10:40 AM ET. He gave himself two more days of pad by mentioning he was unsure because it could be Tuesday or Wednesday. This was the loophole for “no man knows the day and hour” because he installed a range of three potential days with likely hours.
Physical reality rejected David C. Pack’s teaching. And so has he. He did not "have this exactly right," and he already knew by sunset Monday.
An email announcing Part 427 was sent to the members yesterday.
But, before you read it:
Part 425 – March 4, 2023
@ 54:35 This is clearly the end of the line. Nobody could possibly believe just this far in that there’s any more time for messages. That’s not remotely possible.
Part 426 – March 4, 2023
@ 30:39 …there’s no chance I’m gonna speak again.
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March 6, 2023
Dear brethren,
Please note that Mr. Pack plans to give a live Bible Study tomorrow, Tuesday, March 7.
For planning purposes, the live stream in Member Services will be opened a few minutes before the message starts at 5:00 PM (Eastern Time.)
The last two sentences of Mr. Pack’s latest message became the reason for a final brief message tomorrow. One crucial matter redefined our short wait.
For those unable to join live, the message will be available to watch afterward.
Warm regards,
Church Administration
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For context, this is how Part 426 ended.
Part 426 – March 4, 2023
@ 43:16 Look, I’m gonna wait’ll next Sabbath, which is the last moad. However this plays out in case this is some kind of guideline. But, I cannot get around “kay-yom” [Hebrew variant?] “this day, today.” It has to be the 13thor the 14th. Godspeed, whichever day it is. Good night.
Today is Adar 14. Tomorrow is Adar 15. Whatever "crucial matter" redefines our short wait, be sure it just got a bit longer.
I wonder if the Packian Triad of Fraud discovered Google Calendar and that Shushan Purim is observed in Jerusalem tomorrow, March 8.
No matter what new twist the Third Floor Executive Imaginarium produces, it will lead to the same place: nowhere.
David C. Pack’s death-focused statements create a new perspective for other comments tinting his words with a sense of foreboding.
Part 426 – March 4, 2023
@ 31:06 God would’ve known that I would last speak, I believe, on the 12th of Adar.
@ 43:07 If I had to wait out my life and some other messenger came along and did this, I feel unbelievably privileged.
Part 423 – February 25, 2023
@ 35:30 I mean, every time I think of my last name, I think of the Passover season. But we will not be active. We will not be active…for any of the Days of Unleavened Bread. Your voice and mine, all of our voices will be silenced before that.
An eerie feeling sweeps over me when I read these quotes.
Part 8 – December 26, 2015
@ 32:31 “When a prophet speaks in the name the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously: you shall not be afraid of him.” And other places say he dies. That doesn’t seem to make some people afraid. Some people still go out and prophesy. They'll say things that don't come to pass. They're false, and they get the death penalty because any true prophet knows he never speaks on his own.
The man has no idea what he is actually saying and who he is referring to.
Part 390 – August 27, 2022
@ 53:44 It'll be good to see the Lake of Fire put to good use for people who hate God, and they would ruin the lives of others. They need to die.
David C. Pack’s death wish has been going on for a while.
Part 197 – August 7, 2019
@ 1:34:10 I didn’t understand the announcement period. I understand all of that now…You couldn’t put a gun to my head and talk me out of it.
Part 206 – September 30, 2019
@ 2:08:45 “…It’s a coincidence Mr. Pack is finishing his Series on the Feast of Trumpets.” …we’re done. I will not come back. I had to ‘bout put a gun to my own head to come up here.
Part 223 – December 10, 2019
@ 2:09:12 Never gonna set a date again. But you couldn't put a gun to both sides of my head and ever get me to deny all those verses, including this one we didn't know.
Part 284 – January 28, 2021
@ 1:06:23 I didn’t contrive this. I didn’t come this far in my life to lie and go into, you know, and go into eternal death. I'm telling you, it just turned out the very last message is on the 15th of Shevat, which is called “the Day of Trees…”
Part 389 – August 24, 2022
@ 50:46 The three Kingdom picture anchored around Trumpets is immutable. I would die before I would give up that truth. There is no question the Prophetic Kingdom Solar System that we have built is right.
Part 411 – December 24, 2022
@ 04:53 Now, today, people cannot kill me because they don't wanna hear anymore. But they can bail out. And many do.
The Series will not stop until The Restored Church of God financially collapses or David C. Pack dies. Those are the only two ways this will end.
David C. Pack is not preaching the truths of God. He is not ending the Mystery of God. He is not an apostle. He is not a prophet. He is not Elijah. He is not the Seventh Angel. He is not the Goodman of the House. No, he is not a good man.
He lies to himself, and he lies to the members of The Restored Church of God.
But God is not mocked.
Throughout the Series, God allowed things to come from David C. Pack's mouth that he did not understand. The man cannot hear his own words.
I fear for him.
Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. It would be better for him if his self-curse statements came from his own heart. At least in that way, you could understand his chronic insecurity was compounded by a host of mental disorders to create a perfect storm compelling him to swear without swearing.
His yes is beyond yes. His no is beyond no. The origin of that beyond is why I fear for the man.
It is more frightening to consider if spiritual forces placed those comments in his mouth.
David C. Pack has a death wish for himself.
My hope is that he repents before it is too late.
14 comments:
Normally, if I heard that a person had death wish, I would be very concerned. Considering the life and work of David C Pack, I have no problem with or misgivings about him having a death wish. That is a personal matter for him, and it certainly is not my prerogative to interfere with his wishes.
It would be nice if he repented, but the words David Pack and repent are non sequiturs.
Repentance is not even in the same state as Dave. He does not realize what he teaches and preaches is demonic. Dave does not realize he is dead already. We all are, until we put our full weight on the finished work of Jesus, at which point we are made spiritually alive (born again, NOW). We are children of wrath, by nature as Paul says in Ephesians. Hence the need to be born again, sealed and indwelled by the Holy Spirit, so that we CAN enter the Kingdom of God. We are then transferred from the kingdom of darkness into the Kingdom of the Beloved Son. Jesus was very specific about this when he explained it to Nicodemus.
Dave will never see that kingdom he thinks he will rule any day now because he bought into HWAs heresy concerning the new birth being at the resurrection or some imaginary 100 year reincarnation/do-over. I laugh/cry/cringe when I hear old HWA saying that Jesus was the first person who was born again. What a theological idiot. Jesus Christ was the ONLY person ever born who did NOT have to be born again! So, if TODAY you should hear His voice, harden not your hearts....and hold these false teachers accountable for the utter misery they have caused so many and the false teachings they knowingly or unknowingly used to deceive them and hold them in bondage.
As for Dave's chances...He took the HWA road to ruin and added another mile to it. When you literally sell the blood of Jesus Christ, it ain't gonna end well!
It would be in Pack's best interest if his followers would demand he step down and get help. He has been judged by his own failed prophecies and it seems he is crashing to earth. Now how many other lives his going to ruin.
The end is near! The end of Pack is near. The empire is crumbling. Cracks are developing all over the Wadsworth compound, and Davie C knows it. I fear for the horses.
This sounds like David Pack has turned into a COG version of Oral Roberts.
Except Oral Roberts asked the public for money to save his life.
I saw him do that on WWOR-TV on a Sunday morning in 1987. Then I went to work in a well-known television newsroom and repeated what he said.
A few co-workers were puzzled and seemed to dismiss it. But within 48 hours, it was national news.
After reading Dave's book about himself, being in his church and following his words thereafter, it appears to me Dave got into Christianity for the wrong reasons. He does not speak about sanctification or living a Holy life or being perfect like Christ, it is just the prospect of ruling over other people that seems to energize him.
While attending WWCOG services, I came across members that had basically given up on the ten commandments. Some knew that God was not going to grant them eternal life. Their attitude was one of stealing everything in sight since they figured that they had nothing to lose. I believe Dave is in this category. He knows that the lake of fire awaits, and can't be far off considering his age.
He probably has hidden health issues if he fears a heart attack.
Perhaps he is planning to fake his own death and disappear with a suitcase full of money.
6.39 am
Dave's original un-airbrushed autobiography is interesting. I think it came out around 2000. He mentions that when he'd go to a new area, he would ask the congregation to fill in a card indicating how much daily prayer and bible study they did. It came out that about half did no prayer and bible, or next to non. He made the point that the church split along these lines on HWA's death.
He wrote that as a ministerial assistant, he complained to HQ about his pastor having a shoe box of 30 prospective members that had asked for a meeting. But he never seemed to get around to visiting them. To Dave's surprise, HQ criticized him for complaining rather than rebuking his pastor. So HQs first priority is protecting the ol boys club. Justice be damned.
That sounds like a fish story to me. I can't imagine any significant number of WCG members in any congregation openly reporting that they didn't do any praying or bible study. Certainly not "about half" of a congregation. Not with the culture of WCG being what it was. Besides, if I remember my numbers correctly, the church did not "split" anywhere near 50/50 upon HWA's death?
6.08 pm
Dave wrote in his autobiography that he gave out cards that he asked members to fill out anonymously. He wrote that 20% refused to fill in the card. He said that those who refused to fill in their card most likely were not doing any prayer or bible study. But even by extrapolating the 80% that filled in their cards, it's still about 50%. My own experience during my 10 year attendance at Herbs church was that a high percentage of members had given up on morality, and that included most of my ministers.
I once listened to a radion interview of a minister from Joe Tkach's Grace Communion International in the 1990s. He said they lost 50,000 members due to their doctrinal changes. So a 50/50 split seems about right. It was roughly the total number of members in the major splinters. Deaths from old age has shrunk this number.
I'm a glass half full type of guy, which is very helpful in these 50-50 situations. The wonderful thing is that so many people made it to freedom, and are no longer enslaved by a cult. Also, when people with authority decided to splinter, it destroyed the collective power that the remnant might have otherwise had to replicate themselves and attract great numbers. Somehow, the wisdom displayed by Gamaliel was incredibly deep, timeless, and provides the only hope for those stuck in cults.
Yet later, they claimed about 30,000 had initially joined splinters while 50,000 were believed to be unaffiliated (again, if I remember my numbers correctly). That is far more than 50%.
I will say one of the weirdest post-splinter phenomenons I saw was people who quite clearly did not hold to "the changes" continuing to park their asses in WCG congregations week after week being miserable. Maybe they couldnt break the habit, I dont know.
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