The Problem with Bob Thiel is he's a novice when it comes to Africa; he doesn't know a thing about how the Africans can Manipulate the Whites or Muzungu as they call us; especially if you want to set up church here.
Bob Thiel has only been here I think twice in Africa; I believe Nairobi holding a conference with Church leadership. I've been here now for the fourth time and I can tell you truly, the only reason Bob Thiel has a presence in Africa is because it's mainly about Money and support, especially the financial backing of his African Ministry.
The truth Bob doesn't realize or if he does - shame on him, is say Bob Thiel sends $5,000 for the Feast of Tabernacles in Malawi, his trusted and loyal minister Radson Mulozowa will be very excited as most likely close to 3/4 of that money will go into Radsons personal pocket and the people for whom the money was intended will never see it. This is a fact Bob Thiel doesn't acknowledge, and if he does secretly, then shame on him.
CCOG is sadly run this way as there aren't any checks or balances in anything related to funds sent to Africa. Bob relies on one man to have complete control of his African funding and has admitted to me and Aleksander Veljic, that Evans will have no problem taking Money; he even warned Aleksander not to tell Evans Ocheing that money was given to him for his visit to Africa.
I know when I arrived to Africa the first thing Evans requested of me was funds, I was not privy to that. It's a fact my being here for 4 times now, I can attest to the mentality of the Africans, we the Muzungu have unlimited money to give and they know how to play the manipulation game. So, when a certain man got Bob Thiel numbers through promise of support and leadership salaries, the numbers miraculously grew, Evans knows what Bob wants and that is numbers, and with 10 -20,000 pumped every month to one Man, that is possible.
Bob Thiel admits in his own writings he's the fastest growing ExWCG church of God, this is only possible in Africa at large because of his financial paying off in way of good salaries and siphoning of Funds.
CCOG doesn't own any halls or churches in Africa that I know of. What does this mean? It means if CCOG sends funds to build a Hall, immediately a good portion goes to the man that receives that money, then the next man in charge of getting the supplies gets his cut, so then the project is underfunded, no one on the ground to check how the money was spent. These are facts one has to face when dealing with the Africans. Ask any Muzungu down here or a real converted African Christian who believes in the Word of God, they all say the same thing, it is a fact!!!!!!
So what did Bob accomplish in building these Churches? He provides a way for the African ministry to siphon off extra money for themselves and if that minister or persons own the land where that church is built, guess what, Bob Thiel just built a private church for the man or men that the church rests on. CCOG doesn't have any control over that Church or land anymore as CCOG doesn't own it, so that leads to the obvious train of thought; God forbid that the persons or person owning that property decides to leave, or that man or leader in that church is an evil shepherd! What can Bob do, but only to comply as CCOG doesn't own it.
The Hope of Israel Worldwide Church of God owns legally all our properties in Africa because we're also legally registered. If a Minister or leader is no good, we have nothing over our heads to be swayed by. We also bought farmland to develop. CCOG doesn't own anything that I know of. That my friends is poor mismanagement of Tithe Payer's money. Also, we won't be publishing any numbers here in Africa until our Congregations down here are self-sufficient and actually contributing to the Church, We want to change things in Africa, it can be done, but it's worth it, and more exciting news to come in the next few weeks.
Terry A Nelson
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Bob has the right to defend himself.
Africa is hopeless. Don't waste God's money. Look at RSA. Used to be best country in Africa. Currently falling apart.
Sure he has the Right to Defend himself, problem is Bob's not on the Ground talking to People, knowing the INS and outs of African culture, especially when it comes to the Muzungu and how the Africans view them/ also Bob has no clue on the alarming presence of Witchcraft via WitchDoctors, how intertwined it is in African culture, almost all the professing Christians here are involved in some aspect of it/ So why does Bob deny any of his Ministers could be involved? It's simple he thinks with a non-gentile Western Mindset, he can't fathom how the Africans are literally immersed in this Satanic practice from Birth/ Example most children when Born here are placed with a charm around Their neck tied with a small pillow that contains herbs, animal parts , and whatever else. It is so steeped in Their culture, it is something they must do/ they get these charms as they call them from the local women healers in the villages , who obtain them from the local Witch Doctors. These charms are prayed over and give the child supposed blessed upbringing and protection/ these Prayers offered are unto Demons or Ancestor spirits or Forest God's, Christians know these are Demons/ The Parents give their children over to the service of Demons - they are tied into the Demonic realm at Birth/ you can Be sure Radson Mulozowa and Evans Ocheing had these charms on them from Birth , hence the Demonic connection/ , that's why Church going Christians here, turn to the old ways and mix a pagan and Christian shim-sham free for all) So Bob basically doesn't understand the African way, his take comes from the Mindset of the West/ By denying the prevailing cultural norms of Africa, he Denys reality/ hence he is Giving the Demons a way in to sway him in all his decisions. God is allowing this as Bob is proclaiming a Title that is not his and also Bob is so arrogant and Prideful, it's easy to see the Connection/ persons will be shocked when the Full truth comes out.
Bob-- Just get it over with and buy a jet !
Saphie charms, right? That practice is still common in Appalachia on this side of the ocean.
The colonial British in Africa banned witch doctors under threat of death. The problem was that people were going to witch doctors for healing rather than western doctors, This resulted in avoidable deaths.
Appalachian wypipo dont usually call them saphie, but its the same concept. The indigeneous inhabitants had a similar concept that may have been further influenced by African transplants. I interviewed an old white snake handler from the backwoods the other day that was wearing one on his upper arm.
Terry Nelson wrote "Thiel thinks with a non-gentile Western Mindset". Is that saying that he's Jewish? Lately he has said that he's Egyptian, by which he means Chaldean / Italian.
Interesting. Back as we came into the new millennium, I felt an overall aura of gloom. It just felt as if something in the background had fundamentally changed. I mentioned this to a lady whom I apparently did not know quite well enough. She told me that she was a Wiccan priestess, and that perhaps someone had cast a spell on me.
Her advice was that I should break up glass, mix it with nails, pins, and other sharp items, place it all in a jar, urinate in it, and bury it somewhere on my property to ward off gloomy spirits and break the spell. I never did. The gloom and depression became worse, but eventually I got used to them, to the point that they no longer bother me. If you have a strong mind, it can channel or compensate for nearly anything.
Still, maybe Bob Thiel should make himself a little pouch of garlic. It's supposed to protect you from vampires, so maybe it works on witch doctors too!
Bob Thiel has a right to defend deez nuts…o prophecies. Name one that’s come true I’ll wait
"If you have a strong mind, it can channel or compensate for nearly anything."
Gonna have to agree with you on that, 4:55. Years ago I went to a therapist (out of curiosity initially, because I had never done it and work benefits offered a few sessions for free) and I'll give the man credit - unlike the stereotype of therapists, he was a former military counselor, and he pointed out that I had a pattern of being alternately a workaholic followed by long "down" periods of inactivity. He suggested making a long-term to-do list, saving things to work on during the less-active periods. It made a giant difference in my productivity - I wish I'd been able to get that advice decades ago! All it takes is being able to recognize when I'm in "not-working" mode and mustering up the willpower to get moving.
(So for all of you out there who might be inclined towards the same tendencies, get yourself a little whiteboard and stick it on the wall. Every time you think of something that needs doing or someone that you know you should contact in the future, write it on the whiteboard. When you hit your "down" point, start working on the list!)
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