It's a rainy day in California and our most highly favored Church of God leader to ever exist in human history has a beef with Satan and this blog. Apparently, the Great Bwana to Africa and 100 Caucasians has no faith in his God to protect his little itty-bitty group from the crafty wiles of Satan, the favorite fall guy of Armstrongism whenever things go bad in the church. It is never the fault of the bumbling idiots leading certain COGs, but always Satan. Yet, here he is, working behind the scenes on this blog to torment and make fun of the greatest man to ever walk this earth. No one is more theologically correct than the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu Thiel the Chief Overseer of Africa and an occasional Caucasian.
Satan is apparently ramping up his anger at the most highly chosen and theologically correct Church of God since the first century. No other Church of God compares today and that has Satan really ticked off.
According to the Great Bwana Bob Mzungu, Satan is working behind the scenes on this bog attack and making fun of the best Church of God since Rod Meredith apostatized from the Worldwide Church of God. Bwana Bob Mzungu's vanity even extends beyond Meredith to encompass the entire span of true Christians since Jesus walked the green hills of England.
All of you little demons operating here need to shake in fear at what the Great Bwana has to say:
Some of Satan’s allies at Banned by HWA website continue to post lies about those of us in Continuing Church of God (CCOG) as well as other COGs.
Yes, some who claimed to be with us in the old Worldwide Church of God, as well as some who claimed to be with us in the CCOG have turned aside and became false accusers. The Apostle John ran into similar issues as he wrote:
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us. (1 John 2:19)
That is consistent with Satan’s hope as he is called the “accuser of the brethren” which he does do day and night (Revelation 12:10), so it is no great surprise if his lying human assistants spread lies regularly.
If you are not part of a COG (Church of God), Satan hopes you will dismiss the true Christian faith as a false cult–this is something he and his followers have done throughout history.
All of you satanic minions here need to stop it! STOP IT NOW!
The Great Bwana continues:
Jesus, Himself, said that people who claimed to believe the Bible often denounced God’s prophets:
11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matthew 5:11-12)
Notice the following evil that was posted at Banned by HWA:
Bob Thiel has lied to us from day one about God speaking to him in dreams, that he is the only COG doing the work, that he is a prophet, that he is Elisha, Elijah, Zephaniah, Joshua, and many other appropriated personalities (about the only thing left to call himself is Legion). Has Bob ever apologized and will he EVErRapologize for lying to us?
Now the above is false witness from Gary Leonard (the webmaster of the above site and the one who posted that).
Satan hopes you will believe lies.
One of the Ten Commandments is, “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor” (Exodus 20:16).
Yet repeatedly, Gary Leonard has borne false witness.
There is no point in me, Bob Thiel, apologizing for telling the truth.
Gary Leonard and those who believe his lies need to repent.
I have NOTHING to repent of when calling out Bob Thiel as a self-appointed false prophet and false teacher of Armstrongism. God no more had a part in starting the improperly named "continuing" Church of "God" than He did when Ron Wienland started his group.
Bob is nothing more than another narcissistic self-absorbed man to think he is God's latest tool on earth to preach the truth. But none of this matters because Gaylyn Bonjour laid hands on crazy Bob and reportedly "double blessed" him. Gaylyn Bonjour had no idea the power grab that the Great Bwana-to-be was hatching in his mind when Gaylyn laid hands on his already swollen head. LCG members have repeatedly said that Bonjour regretted ever doing so.
The truth is on December 15, 2011, LCG minister Gaylyn Bonjour, while laying hands on me, was moved by the Holy Spirit to pray that God would grant me a “double portion” of His Spirit, which Gaylyn Bonjour said was reminiscent of the passing of the mantle from Elijah to Elisha as recorded in 2 Kings 2:9-13. He has always publicly concurred with me that is what happened.
Furthermore, on November 28, 2019, Gaylyn Bonjour stated that he believed that God answered his prayer regarding Him granting me a double-portion of His Spirit.
Additionally, on November 28, 2019, Gaylyn Bonjour also stated that he tells those who ask:
I have known Bob Thiel since 1986. He has always been honest, dedicated, and sincere.
And that includes what I have written about him, dreams, and the prophet matter. My teaching about what happened is accurate and not false. I have not lied about this.
The Bible has this to say about the advisory working behind the scenes to bring men like Bob Thiel into power in order to deceive many through the false teachings of Armstrongism (quoting Bob):
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 9 Resist him, steadfast in the faith, (1 Peter 5:8-9)
44 … He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. (John 8:44)
The Great Bwana continues: with his never-ending butthurt that no one, including everyone in LCG believes his dreams nightmares. He still imagines himself as the ONLY legitimate Church of God out there! Hilarious!
Satan hopes that YOU will be lazy and not believe. Satan hopes YOU will not take the time to check out the truth on this. Satan does NOT want YOU to accept that God really has been providing and fulfilling dreams in the 21st century.
Satan wants YOU to think that there are no serious differences between the legitimate COGs so not being part of CCOG is fine.
Satan wants YOU, like most Christians these days, to be Laodicean and not see if these things are so?
Why?
Because he knows Jesus said for unrepentant Laodicean Christians, “I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’” (Revelation 3:16-17).
You poor ignorant COG members, backsliding Laodiceans, and atheists just cannot comprehend how magnificent the Great Bwana is!
Now, what about the dream complaints from Gary Leonard?
Satan does not want you to believe that God has been using dreams in the 21st century. Yet, the Bible records that God often has used dreams to give messages, mainly to men (Genesis 20:3-7, 28:10-17, 31:10-13, 31:24, 37:5-10, 40:5-18, 41:1-32; Numbers 12:6; Judges 7:13-15; 1 Kings 3:5-15; Daniel 2:3-45, 4:4-27, 7:1-28; Matthew 1:20-25, 2:12, 2:13, 2:19, 2:22; Acts 16:9), and possibly at least once to a woman (cf. Numbers 12:6; Judges 4:4-16). Though most dreams that people have are not from God (Ecclesiastes 5:7; Zechariah 10:2).
Well, although all real Christians claim to believe the Bible, many do not take all of it seriously enough. Satan wants true Christians to fall away or to be sufficiently Laodicean that they will not take various last days prophecies, such as in Acts 2:17-18, seriously enough to act upon that knowledge.
Everyone who is serious HAS acted and REFUSED to join or acknowledge Bob Thiel and his little cult as the final end-time church. Not only that, the ENTIRE Church of God movement has refused to acknowledge him so he has to resort to deceiving people in Africa. They are far enough away to not know about his shenanigans and outrageous lies.
Satan does not want you to take inspired, confirmed dreams seriously. He wants you opposed, or at best lukewarm, to that biblical idea. Satan wants you to have enough doubts about God and His promises so that you will be “a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways” (James 1:8).
Those who believe the false assertions at the Banned by HWA website are among those that love and practices lies.
Those who do so should repent.
Jesus taught:
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. (Matthew 5:44-45)
Gary Leonard remains in my prayers.
Which is more sensible? The truth or rants from accusers of the brethren?
Jesus said, of prophets, “You will know them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:16).
The Continuing Church of God has been the fastest growing xWCG group in the 21st century. The fruits are there for those with eyes to see and “ears to hear” (Mark 4:23)–but non-believers (Deuteronomy 29:4) and the bulk of end-time Christians do not (cf. Revelation 3:14-22).
Anyway, what Satan continues to hope is that you will believe lies, not believe that God actually has sent fulfilled dreams to those in the Continuing Church of God, and that you will not look into the details to see if it is so–like the Bereans of old did in Acts 17:10-11.
If you are not part of CCOG, Satan wants you to stay away from it.
He does not want you to be dedicated or noble enough to see if what is written here (and in the related links) is really true.
Can you accept the truth or do you prefer the lying assertions from sites like Banned by HWA?
27 comments:
I love how Bob gives this website free advertising!! His constant references to this site by name no doubt help anyone find us who are researching Bob or his claims. Thank you Bob!
Notice how Bob is already starting to make bolder claims than ever before about what Gaylyn Bonjour said and did regarding the infamous double-portion anointing and his later feelings about that anointing in the years ahead.
Just like he has done with Dibar Apartian, Bob clearly likes to put words in the mouths of dead people to make them sound more and more like Bob's faithful supporters. But just take a look even at Bob's most audacious claims about Bonjour before his death, and how Bob has ramped up those claims less than two weeks after Bonjour's death, now that Bonjour is no longer around to deny or rebut those claims.
But consider this: If Bonjour were as supportive of Bob as his current accounts claim, doesn't that make Bonjour an awful hypocrite for remaining on the payroll of the Living Church of God and supporting a ministry that Bob believes is badly compromised, as well as telling LCG members that he came to regret how he spoke when anointing Bob? Either Bonjour is a liar, a hypocrite and a hireling, or Bob is, once again, making stuff up and putting lying words into the mouth of a dead person.
You know, it's very much like what a witch doctor would do.
Does Bob think God protected the public from hearing the wacky bouncing mantle story of it landing maybe on this guy...oops, no, this guy....swoosshhh...ba-zoinng...mantle on Aaron Dean. Aww, whoop, maybe on Dibar Apartian. AAAAUGGH, look out, maybe on the bumbling Rod Meredith.
Bob, does God really play like that, as you speculate?
Hey, the poor guy is just trying to collect a paycheck the best way he knows how. With your tithes and offerings
Well isn't this interesting? Apparently, Bob has mistaken the fact checkers, and accountability police for false accusers!
Get used to it Bob! We're the appropriately named "Continuing Fact Checkers" aka "Continuing Accountability Police", and we don't derive our credibilities from dead French people or Africans, and our message does not involve embellishing the teachings of Scambert W. Armstrong! We do not think of false prophets and teachers as being "neat" or "cool". Frankly, Mrs. Runcorn was far more effective than you, and Elbert Hubbard had incredibly more wisdom! Ponder that next time you are taking introspection.
He was cracking me up the other day, quoting Bruce Renehan and saying "who I have not heard of until 2020" or whatever recent year.
Renehan's work has been out there since the mid-nineties, Bob. Read the copyright notice. Doesnt matter when YOU first found it.
Bob had a beschlagnahme (German seizure) again when he wrote in "Germany is taking military steps" (1-17-24): "Americans who think having a few guns will protect them from what is coming are going to find themselves sorely mistaken.........The days of the USA are numbered (watch Is the USA Prophesied to be Destroyed by 2028)."
The time is short. Send in your tithes and offerings to CCOG NOW.
It's rich when these COGs tie others to being "accusers of the brethren". The whole history of the COGs focused on accusing all other Christians as fake christians. They are so blind they can't see this.
Armstrongism has made itself a cottage industry in being "accusers of the brethren". From condemning current and past church members and unconverted or Laodicean and regular Christians as "so-called". Current church members are blamed for every ill in the church in spite of the lying corrupt leadership who are leading them into oblivion. That is why everyone sees through the lying veneer of Bob Thiel. Dibar Aprtian saw through it and refused to join up with him. Gaylyn Bonjour refused to join him. Rod Meredith laughed at his antics and refused to do anything he suggested. We look at Flurry and Pack and recognize their lunacy, but with Bob, we can only look and laugh. There is nothing serious about the guy or his group. Herbert Armstrong would have publicly disfellowshipped and marked Bob if he had ever had to deal with him.
New name for Bob Thiel: Buffalo Butthurt!
What a delusion is the Armstrong/CCG pipedream that they have restored true 1st century Christianity.
Christians have been claiming this ever since the 2nd century.
Fact is the 1st century wasn't all that unified to begin with
wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism
Like an ugly car will find a butt for every seat so Bob can find a scripture for his imaginary theology and persecution
4:20, Bonjour regretted before witnesses how he spoke about Bob, regretted his request before God?
That makes him just as bad as him or worse, a double-minded hypocrite.
Satan preys on those who wish to elevate themselves in the church, just as he preys on those prejudge a man who desires to do good works for good works' sake and not for self-elevation.
Stupid people. No wonder Christ has shaken your candlestick.
It used to amaze me how SquareBob SpongePants could distort anything that happens to make himself the persecuted good guy. Now it is routine and expected. But what is still hard to understand is how some people fall victim to sharing Bob's private delusions. 10:36 AM, for example, calls Bonjour a hypocrite for regretting his mistake of giving Bob something he could twist into delusion. But I would say Bonjour was very understandably lamenting Bob's ability to twist things. Bob has certainly desired self-elevation ever since he was in Worldwide. Bonjour, on the other hand, as can be confirmed by everyone who knew him, had no discernible desire for self-elevation. He lived to elevate others, but even he saw that his selfless ideal got twisted by Bob's sick mind.
Bob Thiel wrote: "...Anyway, what Satan continues to hope is that you will believe lies, not believe that God actually has sent fulfilled dreams to those in the Continuing Church of God, and that you will not look into the details to see if it is so–like the Bereans of old did in Acts 17:10-11..."
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Bob continues to lie to us. Bob can't even tell us the truth about the Bereans.
Were the Bereans interested in anyone's dreams?
We learn about dreamers, especially false dreams, in Jeremiah 23:32, which states:
"Behold, I [am] against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD."
That's a pretty good warning to all of us, who desire to avoid lies and errors, but those Bereans?
"...they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." Acts 17:11
The Bereans weren't interested in dreams (or anything like Bob Thiel has in mind); they were interested in the scriptures that came out of a speaker's mouth!
Bob Thiel just wants to be "number 1," which is the same attitude of someone else who desired, and still desires, to be Number One:
"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Isaiah 14:14
Yes, Satan wants us all to consider him to be Number One, like the Highest, and Bob's attitude is very similar: Number One religious leader of Cogdom.
Jesus Christ, during His day when He walked this earth, had some words for the hypocritical religious leaders, and people who professed to believe on Jesus, but did not really believe His words:
"Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." John 8:44
Bob, we don't wrestle flesh and blood, but we do wrestle principalities (Eph 6:12), who are capable of capturing a Bob Thiel so easily (James 4:5 (note words: lust & envy); I John 3:8 (author of sin); 2 Tim 2:26 (taken captive at Satan's will); Romans 7:20-21 (sin within & evil present), etc.)
Will Bob Thiel grasp the words of Jesus there in verse 44 of John 6? Jesus also did say this in verse 43: "Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word." Time will tell.
The original post began with stating: "... our most highly favored Church of God leader to ever exist in human history has a beef with Satan and this blog. Apparently, the Great Bwana to Africa and 100 Caucasians has no faith in his God to protect his little itty-bitty group from the crafty wiles of Satan, the favorite fall guy of Armstrongism whenever things go bad in the church. It is never the fault of the bumbling idiots leading certain COGs, but always Satan..."
Rainy day, or not, in California, Bob Thiel really has no beef with this blog, but Satan? Bob Thiel may want to look into a mirror, check the remaining fingers on his hand while he continues to blame others, and he may just learn that his "beef" has been, and is continuing to be, with that one being who desires we respect him as being Number One, which he isn't.
Bob may even want to ask himself (But, don't ask us) regarding his own life in his cogdom this one question, and answer it:
Is "the Devil in the details?"
Time will tell...
John
Bob covets so much.
In fairness, all the ACOG leaders are pathological liars, HWA being being the master. Bob differs in that he departs from the informal "rules for liars" manual by telling too many lies too soon, or telling outrageous lies that destroy his credibility.
So remember Bob, spread out your lies, and sprinkle some common sense between them to make you appear righteous. Study the Pharisees, they were very good at this. And get rid of those crappy curtains.
Ugly car ????
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4:20, Bonjour regretted before witnesses how he spoke about Bob, regretted his request before God? That makes him just as bad as him or worse, a double-minded hypocrite.
Shame on you. The man just died and you're spitting on his grave. You obviously don't know him or the situation or you wouldn't be saying these things. I have found him to be a man of the highest integrity.
If Gaylyn had integrity, then why didn't he help do a mini-Watergate break-in within the hallowed halls of LCG H.Q. to tear down the "Wall of Shame bulletin board" full of sincere mail-in prayer requests that pious, "philadelphian" LCG mailroom staff laughed it up & guffawed over so snidely?
Lying by exaggerating or omission is still lying, Bob. And your writeup gives away just how desperately you coveted a position.
8:08, it doesn't matter what you think, it's what Christ thinks that's important because He is the Judge.
Therefore when an ordained elder (Bonjour) anoints a member (Thiel) in the church and invokes before God in the name of Jesus Christ for a double portion of the Spirit on him, and then later TURNS AGAINST HIS AUTHORIZED REQUEST before God and tells members (who will be witnesses against him in the day of judgment) that "he didn't really mean it" or denies it, what do you think the judgment will be?
Maybe he died for that reason?
Christianity isn't a game we are playing. When you renege on your word like Peter in the denial, there are consequences for it.
Was it just a coincidence when JWT was struck down with cancer in '96, just months after disrespecting the Sabbath commandment?
Why didn't Christ spare him when he was well known to be a supporter of widows (which, by the way, is a great work in God's eyes), a man of integrity who was chosen by the Lord to head the church after HWA?
You, like many in the COGs, have become highly sensitive to words, a disease that plagues both Israel and the church today, a sin categorized in the curses chapter (Deut 28:54,56), so sensitive that you easily take offence, but it doesn't bother you when someone you respect lies to your face or against God or a member is disfellowshipped on one man's testimony.
hey, looks like Bob wrote back to RSK
Looks like someone, (8:43 anon) still wants to blame the dead for dying.
8:43, weren't you "highly sensitive" to the words of 8:08?
Mr. Bonjour was advanced age & full of years, wasn't he? Can't he freely state what he thought he was anointing for while he was anointing? Wasn't Mr. Bonjour permitted to let his yes be a yes & his no, a no? Do COGers often say at funerals, "well at least they won't have to go through the tribulation now"...
Why would you feel comfy to believe Mrs. Meredith got socked with a stroke just because some wise-guy wanted literature corrected?
Why are we to think God held a grudge against Peter?
Does God hold a grudge if our daughters leave our COG "Philadelphian" splinter? Or if she runs off to date non-COG fellas (or marry in a different splinter)? Does He wish the parents taught the girl better?
And weren't some of the Kenyans lying about laptops, seeds, chickens & entering politcs?
Hey 8:43, what if 8:08 was a member of your church? Are you "accusing your brethren"?
There's our fine example of dear loving Christianity where we see 8:43 anon. casting doom of cannibalism curse (Deut. 28:56,58) onto their fellow Christians who were "offended at words". 8:43 is hollering Deuteronomy at the "sensitive & very refined" :
54 The [a]sensitive and very refined man among you will[b] be hostile toward his brother, toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the rest of his children whom he leaves behind, 55 so that he will not give any of them the flesh of his children whom he will eat, because he has nothing left in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates. 56 The [c]tender and [d]delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because of her delicateness and sensitivity, [e]will refuse to the husband of her bosom, and to her son and her daughter
Take it easy, 8:43. You're a little too sensitive toward the highly sensitive others, if you think they're earning the curse of cannibalism. You should have been a script-writer for the late Charlotte-an RCM.
And on a side note, who lied to who's face...& which one man testified for what member's disfellowshipping...was it Kenyan shim-sham you're fussin' about
"You, like many in the COGs, have become highly sensitive to words, a disease that plagues both Israel and the church today, a sin categorized in the curses chapter (Deut 28:54,56), so sensitive that you easily take offence, but it doesn't bother you when someone you respect lies to your face or against God or a member is disfellowshipped on one man's testimony."
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