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1:13, isn't Bob the one who's vile when he rakes in the latest news tragedies into his revolving door to print back out again, but with spin meant to prop himself up with it? (ok or to prop up his hierarchical prophet-office?) (under the guise of propping up the bible ya, ya ok ok)
As a short stature person, he's always trying to be seen above the crowd of taller folk, to have them all turn toward him as a main event center of attention. (ME, ME, look at me, Gaylyn anointed ME as a top hierachical prophet!)
Bob's sicker than normal spouts are when he now likens the late Sasha challenging Bob, to as if Sasha was kicking Jesus in the pricks...THAT is the scripture BOB USES now to accuse Sasha of doing some kind of "kick" onto Bob/& or Jesus?, by citing Acts 9:5 onto our late friend Sasha : "Last week, the troubled (cf. Acts 9:5) Aleksandar ‘Sasha’ Veljic died (see Aleksandar ‘Sasha’ Veljic died). I have known of him since 1994"
Bob now hits Sasha with Acts 9:5 NKJV:
5 And he said, “Who are You, Lord?”
Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. [a]It is hard for you to kick against the goads.”
(Bob believes Sasha doing that particular kick onto Jesus/& or onto Bob).
VERY uncomfortable to see a church leader shaming his former beloved late ordained Elder that way.
Is Bob so "almost Jesus-like" that if anyone is uncomfortable with Bob, then they therefore are uncomfortable with Jesus (in Bob's view that is)?
Watch Bob spin a reply to this now, soon. He'll Dave-Pack-back-track and say, "well they took it out of context again, like they did claiming I said (things like) death is necessary/well timed/needed/welcome/a friend of relief during travail/etc".
The only thing Sasha was (rightly) "troubled" about, was how true Christians tend to dislike the "world's corrupt systems" : (1 John 2:15-17 NKJV : 15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.) And many of the sincere, including Sasha, can find life troubling when we witness all the injustices rampant.
(note : Sasha's ENTIRE LIFE was ALL about 1 John 2:15-17)! Many can attest to it!
Bob pokes at Sasha as if there were mentally "troubling" matters, and Bob's doctorate should be revoked if he tries to psychologically diagnose Mr. Veljic or anyone so poorly. When Sasha simply followed scripture and was humbly troubled at global & local injustices.
Now, Bob has doormat patsy supporters writing this site is vile, at 1:13 Anon. I think I am ashamed at Bob's "Meredith-ish" rude abrasive personality masquerading as if he is a living embodiment of the bible itself.
(the one who's "troubled", is the short fella hollering out kind of like "the-squeaky-wheel-gets-the-grease")
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Bob is shooting himself in the foot with his latest comments.
If Bob is telling the truth now, that means he was knowingly supporting and indeed propping up an unstable individual who he knew would cause problems for European brethren. That's not how a proper Overseer oversees.
The truth, of course, is that Bob is actually an Overlooker, who overlooks serious problems with his African leaders who practice worldly politics and witch doctoring. We may never know the truth as to whether Sasha was a decent and holy man caught up in Bob's delusions, or whether Bob was all along denying and camouflaging problems with Sasha the way he has done with his African ministry.
Whatever the truth is about Sasha, Bob's latest comments about Sasha reveal that Bob is not qualified to serve as an Overseer. And a Prophet should have been able to foresee the problems and act accordingly.
Bob has mentioned problems and challenges in arranging his 2024 Feast of Tabernacles site for North America. At the rate he is going, he'll be able to hold his 2025 North American FOT services in a hotel elevator.
It's a tacit admission that he (Bob Thiel) was not inspired by God in performing his ordinations, mistakes were made, and God ended up not using a flawed individual to get the job done (as EVERYONE seems to want to explain away the incest of the founder to "prove" that HWA (non qualifier as a Bishop) was somehow actually used by God to fill some great commission!
Bob learned it from the best of the spiritual grifters. And then, they all wonder why the Armstrong prophecy mold never gets fulfilled???
Bob is the Classic there is a.Sucker born every Minute; Facts are Facts Bob was never ordained into any office- not even did he hold a Deaconship from Global or LCG, why? One would think that would have been at least the case, but no it didn't happen. The Africans are playing him well and sadly he has fooled some tithe Americans and Canadians and other economical able folks to buy into his Delusions, but I suspect persons are finally catching on hence God's curses of financial upsets and withholding protection from his world Headquarters has finally been revealed . There's been plenty of undeniable evidence of his supporting out right corruption and turning a blind eye to heretical teachings of one of his former Michigan Hosts, especially laughable is his denying official Kenyan Documents and Pictures of his Criminal Radson Mulozowa holding his newest Wife- and Bob calling out that Picture as non evidence, preferring to believe Radsons lie that it is his Cousin- also laughable and something any Church of God wouldn't do is his acceptance of his former Malawian Minister Sosten L. , welcoming him back in the Ministry when the Man was put out for a Serious offence- Money related and according to his big Bwana Evans Ocheing Adultery, also the many eye witnesses of his Ministry involved in Witchcraft - via WitchDoctors and video Testamony of his newly welcomed back Malawian Deacon Louis Wahalea giving testamony against Radson Mulozowa involvement in Visits to the WitchDoctors- Sadly as Sasha put it Bob's Church isn't even Laodeceian- it's mainly made up of his Satanic Ministry and Africans that are there for his Hungry Hippo support . Sasha is accused of persecution from Bob , when in fact In Reality he was denouncing a corrupt False Church with a False Prophet and a supporter of Satanism. The truth will come out in due time , when Aleksandar Sasha Veljic will be praised as one who stood against the Gates of Bob Thiel and his Shim Sham Satan Cult
Bob is such a pathetic nasty little man. Why does he treat people with such disdain?
We live in times when political bullies turn things around and attempt to repaint themselves as the "real" victims. Also, whistle blowers always have a very poor survival rate.
Bob Thiel is simply practicing the new patterns of public behavior as a power move to seize and control the narrative rather than ceding it to those who would hold him accountable
What is it about Bob that really aggravates some people? Perhaps he reminds them of themselves.
Well, the standard fallback of WCG magazine writers was always to pick some event or person of some notoriety and make a big show of finger-wagging over it. It was their version of tilting at windmills.
Factor in Bob's obvious need to always put others down and you see how he's developed his own version of it.
What really drives the relentless persecution of Bob?
5:43 said: "What is it about Bob that really aggravates some people? Perhaps he reminds them of themselves."
Everyone from Mr Meredith, Gerald Weston, Doug Winnail, to even Gaylyn Bonjour in the years before he died knew exactly what a fraud Bob was. He thought he knew more than Mr Meredith and tried to get the LCG to change their teachings to fit his erroneous nonsense. He was never ordained in ANY church of God but set himself up as a false church leader, prophet, and a few short steps from being an apostle. He has taken on the name of numerous old covenant prophets comparing himself to them and even resorted to calling himself Joshua pretending to be similar to Christ. Rod Meredith found his utterances so offensive that he disfellowship Bob.
He believes salvation is only through his cult by his teachings and all groups outside his cult are apostate churches that need to join his. If they do not then they will never know the right time to flee to Petra.
Bob has a fraudulent "theology degree" from a diploma mill in India and never graduated from Ambasador or any theological institution.
Need we go on? We can.....
Thiel isnt *remotely* persecuted.
What really drives the relentless persecution of Bob?
Mostly his own imagination. What Bob thinks is persecution is nothing more than people telling the truth.
How was Sasha "troubled", Bob? That is a disgusting thing to say.
Ooh, people made fun of Bob's antics on a public blogspot. How can he survive under the pain and pressure? The torture! The agony! The humanity! Like Paul himself walking to his beheading!
No.
Sounds like Bob is posting on this page for damage control, using words like "perhaps" (which he uses quite a bit when he is interpreting a prophecy), and asking questions to make people consider the spirit behind their persecution of him.
Bob, you have to consider the evidence against yourself because, if you want to judge others, you must answer for all your hypocrisy.
Your argument that you are always right (which is the spirit of a corrupt ministry today) and that everyone else is wrong won't cut it in heaven.
Well, one good thing about Bob! His self-righteousness at least prevents him from consulting with Cal Culpepper for marital counselling!
Bob's current supporters believe Sasha put too strong of a "spiritual microscope" on the way Sasha objectively examined how afoul a lower level CCOG services host was.🔬📜
The services host (who passed away in the midst "smack-dab" during a CCOG FOT), made it no secret of being fond of non-canon, heretical Book Of Enoch. Sasha knew of folks affected adversely by the Enoch stories from that late host, stories of wild sexual encounters betwixt angels & humans. Then some reported the host went on to speculate that those angelic encounters resulted in Sasquatch-like hybrid offspring to walk the earth, or even offspring bestowed with paranormal or occult characteristics.
Since that host made no secret of his fondness of Enoch stories, you would think the presiding "hierachical prophet" would clamp down & suppress the man's "freedom" & "right" to harbor ghoulish stories of hybrid offspring, stories which were shared during selected instances of "fellowship". Sasha did not want the CCOG youth or young singles to possibly hear a host using the guise of "bible teacher" to share any of the heretical monster tales.
But Bob continued to stamp approval onto the fella continuing to host CCOG services. Sasha "kicked back" (resisted/protested) at Bob expecting members to accept his continuing to permit the man to host a CCOG services site.
And Bob lumped all the protests Sasha resisted Bob with, to unfairly fall within Bob's edict of passing judgement onto Sasha for supposedly being "guilty of committing Acts 9:5".
Sasha could not have fulfilled what Bob says, acting out the Acts 9:5 "kicking against church authority". Acts 9:5 has prods used on an animal : "Our verse today (Acts 9:5) is Jesus saying to Saul, “It is hard for you to kick against the goads.” What's that mean? What's a goad? Back in the day when you worked fields with teams of oxen, you had a sharp stick called a goad that you would use to: encourage the animals along in the direction they should go."
Bob seems to be saying he tried to coax or prod or poke at Sasha to "go in a certain direction"...the direction of WHATEVER is uttered by Overseer/Premier/Top Hierarchy/Church Governance/Bob. (or, in the direction of the late CCOG services host?)
Sasha used courage and honor to "kick back" at a hierarchy which approved a services host to be a die-hard fan of stories in Book Of Enoch.
By the time any potential religious trip takes place to any Petra or any Zephaniah pre-gathering, this guy Bob will no longer permit hosts harboring Enoch ghoul stories from the (non-canon) "bible".
The people whose feet were closer to the fire examined and rejected certain texts for a reason. There is an effort today to reinvent the wheel, but it's difficult to imagine that anyone in our contemporary era, so far removed by the passage of time, could do a better job in dealing with these books than that done by the scholars of those days.
In many ways, anyone who reads the documents from those eras which were not included in the canon immediately realizes why they did not make the cut. They are lacking in quality as compared with the canonical works.
Yet, some would have us believe that these provide additional truth and understanding. And, they do provide insights into the culture of those days, much as Chaucer gives us a peek into Old English culture. There really isn't anything vital or compelling in the Book of Enoch. I suspect that professing to know and understand it becomes a point of intellectual vanity for those who teach from it. It's not as if we need it to live!
Boob I see in his Lies to the Brethren as Sasha would say- took the Liberty to Publish to his deceived , but sincere supporters, again the Lie that Sasha was troubled and against Jesus and the Church of God and of course Prophet Boob; Facts are Facts- Sasha called out Heresy, Bobby was compliant with it- hence letting the former Michigan Host deal in Enock teachings; Fact Bob let's his Mighty African Evangelist Evans Ocheing and son Bradox run and campaign for Kenyan political offices- official Evidence ignored- where did they get Da Money to do that in 2017, 2022- Facts- Bobby is letting a former Minister he Disfellowshipped in Malawi come back into his office - when that man committed Adultery and Money fraud, No other church of God I know allows a defrocked Minister to return to their post once they abuse the office - could it be Bob lusts after this Mans claims to 10,000 new members for Bobby to claim biggest splinter Status ( You current CCOG members should start asking questions?) Facts- His other False-Malawian Minister committed massive Adultery on his wife scores of witnesses and pictures and Video Testamony even of his 3 children - Does Bob Care , a big Fat NO!!!!! So who is troubled- I think Bob is severely Troubled to allow such abuse under his so-called Prophet watch- this and so much more Sasha was warning about. I heard through the grapevine that Sasha had been working on a book about Bob Thiel and his Continuing Church of African Shim Sham - Wow can't wait to read that 🤣🤣🤣
I think in the case of Armstrongist offshoots, you have to factor in both the allure of "special knowledge" (which the belief system already turns on) and also that since historical Christianity is "Satan's great false church", there is a question in the mind of some COGlodytes as to whether this or that book was left out by the "false church" because it was favorable to what is now the Armstrong belief system.
I once read a quote by a writer who, in explaining why one book made it into the canon vs another book, said something silly like "They (the Christians of the 2nd or 3rd century) could hear the voice of the Good Shepherd in Book X, but not in Book Y". My instinctual reaction upon reading that was "Oh, they were protecting their brand of orthodoxy." Now granted, that was quelled in the next second by my conscious reaction, in which I remembered that not every work available to those guys was necessarily of unknown provenance.
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