It's another sunny day in California, and our resident self-appointed crackpot false prophet to the Churches of God is trying to thump his puny chest, proclaiming he is someone he is not. It never ceases to fascinate me why the Church of God is filled with so many of these unimportant morons who think they are God's gift to the church. None of them have ever uttered anything truthful or accurate when they spout their nonsense. Every single one of them has gone by the wayside, widely mocked and quickly forgotten. This is what is guaranteed to befall our current liars leading the Restored Church of God, Philadelphia Church of God, Church of God Preaching The Kingdom, Church of God Faithful Flock, and especially the improperly named "Continuing" Church of God.
The Great Bwana to Africa and the occasional Caucasian, the HIGHLY IMPORTANT Dr. Bob Thiel, is back tooting his Zerubabbel horn, expecting us to believe he is the modern manifestation of the prophet Zerubbabel and Joshua.
The stupidity shines brightly below:
Zerubabbel and Joshua for 21st Century?
A 6th century BC governor of Judea/Jerusalem was named Zerubabbel. He is mentioned in books by Ezra, Nehemiah, and Haggai. All had opposition doing the work of God. Zerubabbel is sometimes mentioned with one named Jeshua/Joshua.
Could prophecies associated with Zerubabbel apply to Jesus or Herbert W. Armstrong?
No, they did not. Fact. A Church of God myth.
Do prophecies tie this Joshua in with Garner Ted Armstrong?
No, they obviously did not. Fact. A Church of God myth.
Might Zerubabbel and Joshua be a type of the two olive trees, the two witnesses?
What did the old Worldwide and Radio Church of God teach about Zerubabbel and Joshua?
Since Zerubabbel seemingly saw the first temple of Solomon, yet laid the foundation for the second temple that Jesus returned to, would the final Zerubbabel be around until about the time that Jesus returned?
Whether this is true or not, one fact is assuredly true, this person will NOT be anyone tied to an Armstrongist Church of God.
What about the old temple and Ambassador Auditorium?
What about it? It's a physical building built with money hoodwinked from sincere people conned into believing God was supposedly going to live there and sanctify it. God did neither. If it was sanctified, then why did it fall into the hands of another pseudo-Christian sect/cult that practiced holy barking, pogoing, and could turn teeth into gold?
Never fear, though. It's about to be sold again, so maybe it will be the Germans as they prepare to use the building as their operation HQ for when they invade the United States and set up concentration camps. Maybe Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg will announce the overthrow of the United States from the stage. This is Armstrongism, after all, and in it anything is possible!
Is the temple Jesus is returning to the true church?
One thing is for certain: when Christ does return, it will be to millions of justified and sanctified Christians around the world. He is not returning to Petra or Pella or some desert community in Jordan where a bunch of batshit crazy American religious frauds have led their followers to.
If Herbert W. Armstrong established the first part of the Philadelphia era, would not Zerubabbel be around to help establish the second part, the Philadelphian remnant in the 21st century?
The Philadelphia remnant is a Church of God myth used to make followers feel special and called out. It is a guaranteed FACT that this remnant is NOT the improperly named "Continuing" Church of God. That is an immutable FACT!
Might the end time Zerubabbel be from a Roman Catholic background and Joshua from a church of God background, but who has remained with Laodicean too long?
Just because the Great Bwana Bob was a former Catholic does not make him a modern-day Zerubabbel. He is a liar to say such a thing. Is Joshua supposed to be Aaron Dean, who has remained too long in a heretical splinter group? The Kitchen's think so. Or, is Joshua going to be Ron Weinland? This is Armstrongism, after all, so the scenarios are endless.
Could Herbert W. Armstrong have been the signet ring as one group asserted?
No. Fact. Another Church of God myth.
Are there dualities and prophecies that relate to both ancient Zerubabbel and the Continuing Church of God?
The chances of this happening are about as good as Garner Ted being resurrected to come back and save the church! The dual prophecy myths of Armstrongism most assuredly do NOT point to a self-appointed crackpot prophet or the improperly named "Continuing" Church of God. This also is an immutable FACT!
Who is preparing for the short work of Romans 9:28?
It is NOT Bwana Bob Thiel. That is a FACT!
Dr. Thiel provides insights to these topics.
Dr. Thiel provides deluded mind farts as if they are God-given insights. God no more delivers this crap to Bob's mind than He does to Gerald Flurry or Dave Pack.
Why are the Churches of God filled with so many of these liars? Why do these self-appointed prophets never act like Biblical prophets?
Here is the reason why:
...Biblically and historically, true prophets spoke out boldly against injustice and exploitation. They spoke on God's behalf when his people went astray and forgot the poor.
Like a good comedian, true prophets punch up. Not down.
The Biblical prophets spoke truth to power, not condemnation to the downtrodden and marginalized.
True prophets in 2022 [and 2024] would be speaking out about the needs of refugees, the homeless, and people in poverty around the world. They would be speaking out against war and violence. They would speak out loudly and boldly against politicians, corporations, and churches who refuse to help the poor and the downtrodden.
(As a fun exercise - have a read through the book of Amos and see how much these words resonate, or not, with the words of the so-called "prophets" of your church today).
There are a whole lot of people who call themselves "prophets" but most of them barely acknowledge poverty, exploitation, or injustice.
Truly they are charlatans.
Jesus knew this, and that's why he warned that there will always be a bunch of false prophets and fake teachers running their mouths off who will "deceive many people" (Mt. 24:11).
In Biblical times, there were two types of prophets.Firstly, there were those “prophets” who feasted at the King's table because they had been co-opted to speak well of evil leaders (1 Kings 18:19). They were bringing smarmy words of favor and influence and prosperity to the king and his cronies. And the king lapped it up. Like a sucka.
Secondly, there were those who were exiled to the caves, or beheaded (like John the Baptist) because they spoke out about the injustice or immorality of their leaders (1 Kings 18:4). The king didn't like them very much. He tried to have them knee-capped.
So how can you tell the difference?
You will know false prophets by their fruit and their focus. That focus is you.
Some come with a message that makes you feel AMAZING - God is going to "enlarge your tent" and "expand your influence", he's going to "give you great favor" and "bless you mightily"…
Others come with a message that makes you feel FEARFUL, like “the end times are upon us”, “prepare for the apocalypse”, “buy more gold quickly, hide yourself away from the chaos”…
Save yourselves, come with us to Petra, and hide from the chaos. Sound familiar?
Notice how the focus is always you at the center? Not Jesus or those who are suffering.
[Note: Of course God blesses. Of course God gives people favor, and even gives them influence sometimes. But these were not the main priorities of the Biblical prophets. This did not form the core of their message.]
I would suggest to you that many church leaders today, Q-Anon adherents, and other so-called "prophetic leaders" of the evangelical church have become the false prophets of this generation. We have gone astray.
Let’s instead consider what a true prophet sounds like. Here is a sampling of Biblical prophets just to remind you what they sound like:
“Hear this, you who trample the needy and destroy the poor of the land!”
Amos the prophet (Amos 8:4)
“Seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause.”
Isaiah the prophet (Isaiah 1:17)
“Woe to him who builds his house by unrighteousness, and his upper rooms by injustice”
Jeremiah the prophet (Jeremiah 22:13)
“Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.”
Ezekiel the prophet (16:49)
“He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God.”
Micah the prophet (Micah 6:8)
"Thus says the Lord of hosts… do not oppress the widow, the fatherless, the immigrant, or the poor…”
Zechariah the prophet (Zechariah 7:9-10)
Have you EVER heard a Church of God self-appointed prophet preach like this? The answer to that is a bold NO!
Got it? It's pretty clear to anyone who has immersed themselves in these scriptures what true prophets sound like. True prophets are not babbling on about the “deep state”, conspiracy theories and Donald Trump. The teachings of many modern day evangelical church leaders just do not resonate with God's heart for justice and Shalom, the way the Biblical prophets did.
So who will you listen to? I invite you to turn your ear towards people who echo the prophets of the Bible, speaking truth to power, and grace and love to the downtrodden. HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH MOST MODERN DAY PROPHETS...
The simple fact remains. Do not believe the lies of the Church of God false prophets, especially those who claim mantles of Hebrew prophets. These are charlatans who are unable to put their confidence in Jesus. They have to look backward to the Old Covenant times (much like the Israelites looking longingly back at all the leeks and foods they were missing) for solace and comfort and for titles they think they fit. Unwilling to revel in peace and contentment in Christ, they expect us to follow them down the dark paths they are currently upon.
And the people of Israel also wept again and said, “Oh that we had meat to eat! We remember the fish we ate in Egypt that cost nothing, the cucumbers, the melons, the leeks, the onions, and the garlic. But now our strength is dried up, and there is nothing at all but this manna to look at.”
The manna set before Armstrongism and its followers has been soundly rejected by its current apostles, prophets, chief overseers, pastor generals, and presidents. They prefer the garlic, melons, and "comfort" of Old Covenant times over the freedom, peace, and assurances of being People of the Way.
5 comments:
His Mama should have given him a good Arab name, like Fakir.
How dare Bob try to steal from the Real Zerubbabel...
https://www.youtube.com/@repairingthebreach
Fascinating how such an insignificant human being, with no talent for public speaking nor a genuine grasp of Biblical issues and theology consider himself to be so important in his own eyes. Delusional thinking and ego on display. I wonder if Bob ever has taken the time for one personal introspective moment in his life. The need to be important and to have that dangerous "God given purpose" consumes this fellow.
God gave Bob a developmentally disabled child to take care of, but Bob apparently doesn't think that's a sufficient purpose for his life. One gets the sense that Bob has had some serious but unaddressed family issues throughout his youth and his adult life. It's strange how a purported commandment-keeper can spend so much time obsessing over vague prophecies and dreams, while downplaying the plain commandments about parent-child relationships (both with his parents and with his children).
Would you ever come to believe this, Bob?.............The reason for a tithe given only every third year was........ 10% of one year's harvest of the land of Israel and stored up was enough for 3.3% of the population who were the Levites, who were 2% of the population - Num 31:30, and for the stranger, fatherless, and widow. Israel was to give to the poor whenever needed at any time - Deut 15:7-11. The only other tithe was yearly and kept by the tither to observe the 3 festivals.
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