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Imagine being a child in UCG and having to listen to this crap!
And, here we thought Big Beak was pathetic!
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Lake of Fire Church of God
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Imagine being a child in the grossly mis-named Continuing Church of God and having to watch Cartoon Bob animations. Which raises the question, are there any children in CCOG?
Oh dear, someone in UCG with no musical talent whatsoever thought that this was a good idea? As a songwriter myself, I would rate these songs as a big 0 out of 10 rating.
This is a game changer. There is going to be a flood of people with children rushing into the UCG because they have an imaginary person of blue color entertaining their kids. Katie bar the door!!!
Ha! Didn’t listen to the songs, but then I see Mark Graham composed some of them so I thought I might, but then since he didn’t defend them I thought I won’t. Maybe tomorrow. A song in the night is a wonderful hymn. It would be great if the COGs actually taught and knew the Good News as mentioned in the hymn.
Jelly is UCG's children's outreach for actual babies, toddlers and young children. Not for bitter baby boomers who find fault with even a churches children's outreach music. What original ideas have you lot got? Besides mockery and nitpicking to bestow on others? Long live Jelly!
Hi, Jim, I’ll gladly defend them. They’re written for the under-10 crowd, and I don’t know the Spotify stats, but the videos are popular in that age group across church organizational boundaries. I’m happy to be part of the project. The “Table of Contents” song will probably be around long after I’m gone.
Mark, I thought you had acquiesced in your initial response. I haven't listened to them as they are for young kids and I'm not a young kid, but I've liked the tune of several of your songs so I may just take a listen.
Actually, there is a lot of originality on this website. Some very good articles written. It is absurd for a COG member to question anyone about original ideas. There are many areas of curiosity and depth and intimacy the Lord provides, but COG members generally hold to whatever Herbie said on a subject.
It was always a bit disappointing that the WCG copied its Big Beak character from Sesame Street's Big Bird. One sort of expected that a so-called “Church of God” could do better than merely copy from a grungy television show like Sesame Street.
The UCG looks like it copied its Jelly character from one of Sesame Street's garbage can characters or similar-sex couples (Bert & Ernie).
It gets even worse in the Churches of Fraud. Gerald Flurry copied his “Malachi's Mess.” of a little book for the PCG from the writings of Jules Dervaes. Copying from other false leaders is even worse than copying from television shows.
From a personal standpoint, I do not like hype, advertising materials, apologetics, or any media specifically created to change peoples' opinions. We are bombarded with that crap from all corners. It's why my TV watching is restricted to purchasing and binge-watching DVDs of TV series, including those produced in the USA, Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand. The DVDs do not contain commercials except for those regarding additional TV series at the beginning of the first disc. I also do not listen to music on the radio. For my cars, I have my CD collection, and my own discs that I created containing deep cuts which used to be played on KMET 94.7 back in the days of free form rock radio that the current radio programmers have forgotten. Also, thumb drives given to me by a friend with MP3 files of all of the concerts given by Dead and Company, the current version of the Grateful Dead. I've become adept at identifying "click bait" on the internet, and know how to avoid it as I surf a variety of sources for my shot of the daily news. Above all things, if I Iisten to talk radio, it is to programs and hosts which examine multiple sides of issues and allow the listeners to evaluate and make their own decisons, and not to the personalities whose shows are in reality one big commercial for a particular political party or point of view.
Philosophically, I am averse to puppets, songs, or cartoon characters created to advance a point of view, regardless of the level of talent or creativity which are part of the creative process.
Anybody think that's weird? You may be right, but it's a very effective remedy for the slow to dissipate hangover from growing up in, and spending young adulthood drenched in the artificial information provided by a toxic religious cult called Armstrongism! I've taken an active part in creating my own pleasant environment, and because it includes a lot of cool elements and hobbies, a wide variety of people can relate. I guess that makes me my own commercial, but it's a very appealing lifestyle because I have the control.
Well, 12:30, the creators of Sesame Street were of Baby Boomers' parents generation, both born in 1929. It premiered in 1969, so mostly caught the Baby Boomers' kids, like for example, mine. Boomer favorites had been Howdy Doody, Winky Dink, Crusader Rabbit, the Little Rascals, and the old stars of Vaudeville catching a second career on the Ed Sullivan show. Ed rode the Boomer phenom right into the Beatles and Stones, other faves. Late boomers continued with Rocky and His Friends, containing a big batch of double entendres which parents would overhear as their kids laughed at a completely different set of gags just for them.
I don't think Boomers would be bitter about, or arbitrarily trash something just because it was derived from Sesame Street. Speaking totally for myself, my objections would be confined to the exploitation and usage of the derivative to indoctrinate young, helpless children in toxic cultic dogma. In fact that dogma is so bad that we should probably call it hyenama!
I think you will find the UCG Jelly character design and model of entertainment to educate children is influenced by the genius and legacy of Jim Henderson. As Jim Henderson influenced strongly 'Seasame Street' when he worked there, and then developed his own well known 'Muppets' show cultimating in world famous films and his buying the original Chaplin film studio on La Brea street Hollywood and turning it into the Jim Henderson film studio.
It's not as expensive as Celtic Throne, beats the hell out of blanket training, and Jelly doesn't flail his hands. Just another example of ACOG impotence for us to chuckle over
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Imagine being a child in the grossly mis-named Continuing Church of God and having to watch Cartoon Bob animations. Which raises the question, are there any children in CCOG?
Richard
"Dreaming of the Kingdom" was a WCG children's Feast tune in the 1990s. So catchy that I've whistled it from time to time ever since.
So no, it's not all, uh, bunk.
When I saw the title of this post, at first I thought it said "Sin Along With Jelly". We're talking about godless UCG leaders, so it would fit.
Perhaps Jelly is a girl or transgender.
Oh dear, someone in UCG with no musical talent whatsoever thought that this was a good idea? As a songwriter myself, I would rate these songs as a big 0 out of 10 rating.
This is a game changer. There is going to be a flood of people with children rushing into the UCG because they have an imaginary person of blue color entertaining their kids. Katie bar the door!!!
I've always dislike VeggieTales and I still think it's pop Christian junk food.
For a shot of '90s L.A. indy underground blues, type the following into your brouser:
Roll Mr. Jelly, Kid Ramos on youtube
4 minutes of heaven with an awesome Telecaster solo. They just don't make this kind of ear candy any more!
BB
This is Donald JJ. Trump.
Jelly, YOU'RE FIRED!
Haha, yes, that would be me, although I didn’t write all of them. You’re not the first person to feel that way.
Who was the idiot that came up with this krapp? No wonder the churches are withering away. Leave the jelly, take the cannoli
I got through ten seconds at best.
Ha! Didn’t listen to the songs, but then I see Mark Graham composed some of them so I thought I might, but then since he didn’t defend them I thought I won’t. Maybe tomorrow. A song in the night is a wonderful hymn. It would be great if the COGs actually taught and knew the Good News as mentioned in the hymn.
Jkids is far better than Jelly
Getting Ready for Shabbat Song
https://youtu.be/oBdA8s0dCuM
Perhaps the most horrific thing is that there's a vol II...
Jelly is UCG's children's outreach for actual babies, toddlers and young children. Not for bitter baby boomers who find fault with even a churches children's outreach music. What original ideas have you lot got? Besides mockery and nitpicking to bestow on others? Long live Jelly!
Hi, Jim, I’ll gladly defend them. They’re written for the under-10 crowd, and I don’t know the Spotify stats, but the videos are popular in that age group across church organizational boundaries. I’m happy to be part of the project. The “Table of Contents” song will probably be around long after I’m gone.
Mark,
I thought you had acquiesced in your initial response. I haven't listened to them as they are for young kids and I'm not a young kid, but I've liked the tune of several of your songs so I may just take a listen.
Actually, there is a lot of originality on this website. Some very good articles written. It is absurd for a COG member to question anyone about original ideas. There are many areas of curiosity and depth and intimacy the Lord provides, but COG members generally hold to whatever Herbie said on a subject.
Copycats
It was always a bit disappointing that the WCG copied its Big Beak character from Sesame Street's Big Bird. One sort of expected that a so-called “Church of God” could do better than merely copy from a grungy television show like Sesame Street.
The UCG looks like it copied its Jelly character from one of Sesame Street's garbage can characters or similar-sex couples (Bert & Ernie).
It gets even worse in the Churches of Fraud. Gerald Flurry copied his “Malachi's Mess.” of a little book for the PCG from the writings of Jules Dervaes. Copying from other false leaders is even worse than copying from television shows.
From a personal standpoint, I do not like hype, advertising materials, apologetics, or any media specifically created to change peoples' opinions. We are bombarded with that crap from all corners. It's why my TV watching is restricted to purchasing and binge-watching DVDs of TV series, including those produced in the USA, Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand. The DVDs do not contain commercials except for those regarding additional TV series at the beginning of the first disc. I also do not listen to music on the radio. For my cars, I have my CD collection, and my own discs that I created containing deep cuts which used to be played on KMET 94.7 back in the days of free form rock radio that the current radio programmers have forgotten. Also, thumb drives given to me by a friend with MP3 files of all of the concerts given by Dead and Company, the current version of the Grateful Dead. I've become adept at identifying "click bait" on the internet, and know how to avoid it as I surf a variety of sources for my shot of the daily news. Above all things, if I Iisten to talk radio, it is to programs and hosts which examine multiple sides of issues and allow the listeners to evaluate and make their own decisons, and not to the personalities whose shows are in reality one big commercial for a particular political party or point of view.
Philosophically, I am averse to puppets, songs, or cartoon characters created to advance a point of view, regardless of the level of talent or creativity which are part of the creative process.
Anybody think that's weird? You may be right, but it's a very effective remedy for the slow to dissipate hangover from growing up in, and spending young adulthood drenched in the artificial information provided by a toxic religious cult called Armstrongism! I've taken an active part in creating my own pleasant environment, and because it includes a lot of cool elements and hobbies, a wide variety of people can relate. I guess that makes me my own commercial, but it's a very appealing lifestyle because I have the control.
BB
Well, 12:30, the creators of Sesame Street were of Baby Boomers' parents generation, both born in 1929. It premiered in 1969, so mostly caught the Baby Boomers' kids, like for example, mine. Boomer favorites had been Howdy Doody, Winky Dink, Crusader Rabbit, the Little Rascals, and the old stars of Vaudeville catching a second career on the Ed Sullivan show. Ed rode the Boomer phenom right into the Beatles and Stones, other faves. Late boomers continued with Rocky and His Friends, containing a big batch of double entendres which parents would overhear as their kids laughed at a completely different set of gags just for them.
I don't think Boomers would be bitter about, or arbitrarily trash something just because it was derived from Sesame Street. Speaking totally for myself, my objections would be confined to the exploitation and usage of the derivative to indoctrinate young, helpless children in toxic cultic dogma. In fact that dogma is so bad that we should probably call it hyenama!
BB
Great take, BB. I do that to a lesser degree.
Ha ha! The only absurdity "Jim" is the farce of thinking anyone's fooled by the deceit.
The young kids love Jelly videos. Its one of the best things UCG has done IMO
Thanks Jim. It's a bubble, too, but it's big and inclusive.
I think you will find the UCG Jelly character design and model of entertainment to educate children is influenced by the genius and legacy of Jim Henderson. As Jim Henderson influenced strongly 'Seasame Street' when he worked there, and then developed his own well known 'Muppets' show cultimating in world famous films and his buying the original Chaplin film studio on La Brea street Hollywood and turning it into the Jim Henderson film studio.
It's not as expensive as Celtic Throne, beats the hell out of blanket training, and Jelly doesn't flail his hands. Just another example of ACOG impotence for us to chuckle over
"God Made the Earth" says... "in seven days."
Didn't He finish the creation in SIX, and rest on the seventh?
How did the Doctrinal Committee allow that one?
Oh, that’s a good question! It probably didn’t sound right with six days in the lyrics
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