But hey, if this sniveling little turd really wants a masterclass in "real" Christian persecution, why not take a leisurely glance at Nigeria, Pakistan, Sudan, Egypt, Somalia, Libya, Eritrea, and Iraq, or any of those charming spots where actual believers are getting massacred by the thousands in just the past few weeks? Meanwhile, our pampered little devil's advocate lounges in his plush, impeccably decorated home in Arroyo Grande, CA, furiously hammering away at his keyboard like the forces of darkness are about to kick down his door and silence his oh-so-vital "ministry." How utterly terrifying.
It must take an impressive amount of brass balls for this phony, self-crowned newbie—who kicked off his tiny cult in a glorious tantrum against Rod Meredith and the Living Church of God—to play the persecution card while genuine Christians are out there getting butchered. No wonder absolutely nobody from the LCG or the Churches of God bothered to join his adorable little fan club. Those folks can spot a con artist and a me-me-me egomaniac from a mile away.
And sure, when the magnificent Great Bwana Bob finally leads by example, ditches his cozy setup, and jets off to Africa to preach like a "true" man of God, we'll all just drop everything and believe every word. Yeah, right—keep dreaming, champ.
A Sudanese mother wraps her arms around her child in desperate love just before execution by the filthy #RapidSupportForces.
— Abdiweli Mohamed jama (@inamakhtal) October 29, 2025
This is heart-breakingš
Where is the world? @amnestyusa @UNHumanRights @MofaSudan pic.twitter.com/SnuSiWISAK
Nigeria, Sudan, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo are slaughtering Christians
— Canada has gone mad š (@HaveWeAllGoneM1) October 29, 2025
The silence by the MSM is deafening https://t.co/zWXn2WeVE0
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The ironic truth is that Bob's African ministers are persecuting the suffering African members who get involved with CCOG in the hope of getting a small share of Bob's American wealth.
Reposting my Comment from yesterday as relevant to this post as well. We await HWA wannabee Bwana Bob's answer:
Ah yes, Foxe’s Book of Martyrs. I remember it well. I can think of two R/WCG scarry sermons I sat through where that book reading was the subject of the sermons. The message conveyed was persecution through martyrdom was coming to God’s true Church and the ministerial message was to 1) be brave and 2) die faithfully.
To date after 50+ years since then, I am not aware of anyone in the R/WCG and/or in its harlot daughter Splinter churches that have suffered martyrdom persecution. Not one person that I am aware of.
Meanwhile, while Cartoon Bob plays Church Prophet, real Christians in Nigeria are suffering REAL martyrdom:
7,000 Christians Have Been Killed in Nigeria This Year, Group Says - Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/christians-killed-nigeria-religion-2116416
I hate to be the one who asks this really hard question: If martyrdom is a proof of God’s true Church, then why can’t we name anyone who was actually martyred for their faith in 90 years of Armstrongism?
It’s not a hard question – really, it isn’t. Perhaps Prophet Bobby Thiel can answer it.
Richard
11.27, I doubt Bob will answer. God calls the weak of the world, so it takes many decades for these members to mature. Which rules out premature death due to martyrdom. And this isn't to say that they are not persecuted at home, in their workplace and also at church, oftentimes by their minister.
Six COGWA members were ordered to leave a Feast site in Uganda this month, because they were from Rwanda and their papers supposedly were not in order.
The persecution there involves Rwandan officials setting so many legalistic hurdles that non-Catholic churches cannot meet them. Try as they might.
Meanwhile, several UCG members had to be smuggled out of a dangerous part of Haiti by truck during the spring so they could keep the SECOND Passover.
And you post this as brethren of all COG's in Jamaica, Cuba and the Bahamas are enduring Hurricane Melissa.
So "persecution" can take many forms. Check the Bible uses of that word, and you'll find it can mean far more than life-and-death moments.
Persecution, martyrdom? What’s that?
A foreign concept for the Armstrong movement.
The suffering of Christians in North Africa and the ME is truely horrific. And the brutality displayed against other minorities in the ME is appalling. Like that of the Druze and Yazidis who are mercilessly hunted down and slaughtered for just belonging to a ‘different’ ethnic or religious group from the majority. One simply despairs as we look at humanities inhumanity shown to our fellows.
For the Armstrong movement, persecution is simply went someone disagrees with their doctrines and publicly has the audacity to say as such. The greatest danger facing them is the competing groups of the harlot daughters of the mother church, one could almost say Babylon the Great and its offspring. Funny old world isn’t it.
You can always see from Booby’s rants that persecution comes from anyone who disagrees with him and eventually the Catholic Church. Trials are what members face when it comes to weather and other issues. That has been the long standing definition of the church.
I gotta slide on down to his level and speak his language hoping maybe, just maybe he'll understand!
Hey Bob! FSCSKCLM (falsely so called Sunday keeping Christians' lives matter!!!)
BB
It is interesting how these people allow themselves to be known and be known as Christian, when it can bring such physical and practical persecution.
Meanwhile, there are Armstrongists, former Armstrongists, and people with Armstrong connections who are scared to be known because they or somebody might receive harsh words.
How is judgment to be made as to whether somebody is or is not a “real” Christian? Setting aside the fact that Jesus failed the Messiah tests of the scriptures he professed and those of the writings centered around him, and thus there really is no more such a thing as a “real Christian” than there is a “real Jedi adherent,” it seems very Armstrong-esque to be using dogma, doctrine, and practice to determine the “realness“ of a given person in the faith.
I religiously hide that I was a WWCG member. My experience was that when people did find out, they straight away started treating me as if I have no rights. Which means that outsiders knew about the church culture. That's why I'm embarrassed that I was a former member.
If I ever cop to anything, it's that I was raised in a toxic authoritarian fundamentalist cult that taught Jesus was coming in 1975, and when he didn't show, I split. Sometimes I clean it up a little and just state that I grew up kosher, and keeping Shabbos and all of the Jewish holydays from Torah. Ya gotta keep it light, because if you use the term "cult" without any further explanation, your listeners are thinking "Charlie Manson".
Actually, it's not on me anyway. it's on the 'rents! They oughta have some stupid parents laws. If only I'd have been taken away and raised by some nice African American foster parents, I'd be a lot better at playing the blues on my guitar.
BB
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That makes sense, BB. Keeps it simple and does the job. If you said something about WCG or Armstrong specifically, most people would say, “Never heard of it/him.” And you would be having to go into a long explanation, when something like my usual phrase in casual conversation: “Adventist offshoot” usually covers the matter. People know enough about the Adventists to sufficiently understand. If they ask for more details, then for the sake of your credibility you give them — as I do.
I was a little concerned about things when I enlisted. It was only a few years after I left fellowship, and I did wonder what my fellow soldiers would say. Never had a problem when it did come up. We all have a past. It was the actual enlistment that was interesting. Because I had done a few months on Air Force Delayed Enlistment before starting to attend, I had to explain everything to the recruiter, have a psychological evaluation, and get the state Adjutant General to sign off on my case (Guard). That latter part took about 10 minutes, with no fuss.
I did encounter one former Armstrong youth In the Guard. I mentioned it once or twice, and he told me to be shut up about it. We had security clearances, And I wondered if he thought his clearance would be in danger if it was known. Never got a chance to explain to him that even as a practicing Armstrongist I had had a security clearance for a legal job. My religion was known to the people approving the clearance, and it did not cause me any discrimination. Or maybe he was just not wanting his buddies to know. I get that. But he approached it by not talking about it at all. And being former, that seems fine to me. You don’t have to tell everybody your full biography. But note that he didn’t talk about it at all.
But there is one place where my background would quite understandably justify a certain deprecation by others: Religion. I once made a horrible judgment in that regard, and thus it is quite understandable if in such a discussion somebody were to use that to lower my credibility. I will have religious discussions, and if my background becomes an issue, I will openly state it because it can be pertinent to my credibility. If I don’t want it out there, then I don’t engage in the conversation. That is part of the burden that I carry because of my past.
And certainly, IF I AM SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSING ARMSTRONGISM, I HAVE TO COME OUT WITH MY IDENTITY AND STATUS IS A FORMER MEMBER. Full disclosure and establishment of credibility. I have done this many times in discussions on TruthSocial (@LTWalker03).
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Part 2
The truth is, folks, that most people nowadays simply don’t care about your religion, particularly if it’s in your past. And one of the few regions in this country where they do is East Texas, and they all know. People in Utah have to be tolerant, because non-Mormons are surrounded by Mormons, and Mormons know all about persecution. My state technically had a $300 bounty on them until officially ended in something like 1975 (True).
I get people not wanting to embarrass themselves. But that is a reason not to talk about it at all, not to talk about it without identifying yourself.
The notable part is that People with an Armstrong connection are most fearful of practicing Armstrongists. Former Armstrongists shouldn’t give a rat’s you-know-what about what they say. It’s not like they’re going to get the Salman Rushdi treatment from the ACOGs. Or the treatment described in the article on this post. They need to man up and grow a pair if they expect to be taken seriously in a discussion.
I get the people with family or connections in the Movement are concerned about relationships. Being openly contrary to the faith and raise issues at Thanksgiving. But there are ways to be publicly critical of Armstrongism while at the same time respecting the actual religious beliefs of individual members. As for any effects on their connections that come from within the movement, that is on them.
As for current followers, I get that there can be social ramifications. The flipside of freedom is that others have the freedom to hold their own views of you. But that is the price Christians and anyone else pays for holding their religion. That whole “suffer as a Christian” thing. At the same time, they should realize what it says when the leadership of a religious movement commands its members to cover it up. If they are people doing some sort of mole or undercover work — attending and seemingly practicing, but actually gathering Intel within an ACOG — keeping their identity secret makes a little more sense. At the same time, we have seen in the past decade what BS can come from “unnamed confidential sources.” Perhaps people can work out a system with sites like this one to verify their identity while maintaining their cover.
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I just can't help but wonder, as the repression of these Orwellian times in which we must currently exist deepens, where the members of these obscure religious groups will be able to hide. Can it really be all that far off, the time when each of us will have an AI profile, one over which we have no control, one which is easily accessable by anyone? Imagine "My Life", only with greater detail, and not subject to correction by ourselves. Imagine business and marketing decisions being made by AI, hiring, firing, and disciplinary policies governed by AI, personal financial viability at banks and financial institutions determined by AI, CCTV everywhere, enhanced by facial recognition. Acknowledgment by car manufacturers that your vehicle's computer is actively reporting your driving habits, every speeding violation or turn without signaling duly transmitted to the watchers. Drones surveiling all human activity, not just on suspicious characters, and most likely armed to prevent any activity which even hints at the least infraction. Computerized toilets which analyze your waste products to ensure compliance to all approved dietary requirements.
The correct Supreme Court is already in place to augment and facillitate this, and case by case, everything is being alligned to enforce legislated morality and system of ethics. Imagine no longer having any voice, even the internet carefully monitored for uncircumspect content, circumspectness determined by those in power as opposed to the founding documents of our democracy.
Picture a time in which belief in the most absurd conspiracy theories is enforced.
Claims are made that HWA's failed prophecies did not really fail, they have just been delayed. This is of course ridiculous! We know this from the superior science of the current era. On the other hand, anyone with eyes and a brain can see that Orwell's prophetic warnings and visions, as outlined in "1984", were perhaps 40 years off. One wonders if "hiding amongst the proles" is still a viable refuge. Orwell did not foresee "chipping", a technology now having been tested on animals for decades.
Do you have the correct AI profile to survive???
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